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#2551 - kabizus
Reply -12
(06/28/2012) [-]
You people and your ObamaCare hissy fits.

FYI, if ObamaCare was created by a white Republican with a different name on it, no one would declare it unconstitutional.
#2631 to #2551 - Ruspanic
Reply +3
(06/29/2012) [-]
It's quite obvious you don't have the slightest understanding of why people oppose Obamacare and question its constitutionality. Perhaps you should look up the other side's arguments before making yourself look foolish.
#2623 to #2551 - reaganomix
Reply +1
(06/29/2012) [-]
Implying people like the white man as much as the black man.

Romneycare is still more constitutional than Obamacare since the state does not have the same restrictions as the federal government.
#2556 to #2551 - anon
Reply 0
(06/28/2012) [-]
You people and your "people only disagree with Obama because he's black" fits.
#2553 to #2551 - anon
Reply 0
(06/28/2012) [-]
Fuck you, of course I would. I don't give a damn WHO the fuck a bill or law comes from. If it's bullshit, then it's fucking bullshit.
#2552 to #2551 - Mortspear
Reply +3
(06/28/2012) [-]
Stop putting race into this. I hate how any hate is used on Obama, it's because he is black. What he did is unconstitutional. Another problem with your statement is that a Conservative wouldn't want to pass a law like this.

Leave the politics talk to the people who know a thing or two about it.
#2577 to #2552 - anon
Reply 0
(06/28/2012) [-]
NO President Obama did nothing unconstitutional. The Supreme ruled that it was constitutional, and it was a Republican judge who gave the favoring vote.
#2626 to #2577 - Ruspanic
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(06/29/2012) [-]
Technically you are correct, but only because of the Court ruling. Remember that interpretations of the Constitution vary, and the Supreme Court decides how it will be interpreted. Had John Roberts sided with his four conservative peers, you would be wrong and Obamacare would not be Constitutional.
#2579 to #2577 - Mortspear
Reply 0
(06/28/2012) [-]
I know this. But as President he should know (and he did know) better than to pass something against the Constitution. Just see my quote from him I posted where before he said he wouldn't make insurance forced on Americans. Would something that is truly Constitutional cause this much controversy?
#2625 to #2579 - Ruspanic
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(06/29/2012) [-]
Okay, I don't exactly agree with anon but your reasoning is kind of bullshit. One of the main functions of the Supreme Court, since Marbury v. Madison, is to decide whether laws are "truly" Constitutional. There is always controversy about constitutionality because obviously interpretations of the Constitution vary, but a Supreme Court decision is basically an informal Constitutional Amendment. It changes (and sets a precedent for) how the Constitution is interpreted. If the SCOTUS decided Obamacare is Constitutional, then it is. It may not fit with your interpretation of the Constitution, but it does fit with the majority's now-official interpretation.

Obama argued that his health care reform was Constitutional: he did not knowingly try to pass an unconstitutional act. The SCOTUS affirmed its constitutionality but cited a different reason than Obama (Congress' power to impose taxes).
#2959 to #2625 - Mortspear
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(07/02/2012) [-]
When it comes down to fighting against the people's rights, then I believe it's always unconstitutional. We aren't a free country if we are forced to spend our money in a way that we don't choose. Our country was found on freedom, anything against it doesn't follow the original constitution of our country. People can have their own interpretations of it, but in reality it all means the same thing. Obama just wants this country flushed down the toilet, this "tax" is going to cost the country billions of dollars for welfare since the poor already can't afford food, now they're being forced to buy healthcare.
#2575 to #2552 - auscol
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