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#127666 - MuahahaOfLore
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(1 hour ago) [-]
GIF
Everyone ready for the debate tomorrow?
I like taping a mustache to the screen and drinking when it lines up.

Im posting two Trumper Comps tomorrow, here's the first 17 hrs early.
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#127669 to #127666 - Zaxplab
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(19 minutes ago) [-]
Oh boy, I'm just hoping Trump can keep his cool. Also, I hope the judges/audience don't show a clear bias.
#127667 to #127666 - unforgivensoul ONLINE
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(1 hour ago) [-]
I will be skipping my Business Law class to watch the debate with my two closest friends since we share very similar views.
#127662 - anon
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(2 hours ago) [-]
I came here for the youregaylol emotional breakdowns.
#127661 - whoozy
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(3 hours ago) [-]
Do you think the media will have a big impact on who "wins" the debates? It's no secret they're not neutral.

If for example most media outlets claim a candidate won, could that convince people its true?
#127665 to #127661 - theism ONLINE
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(2 hours ago) [-]
Most people have their minds made up about what media they do and don't trust. So it's not likely anyone will be convinced of anything they don't already believe.
#127664 to #127661 - youregaylol
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(2 hours ago) [-]
I talked about this awhile back, Trump is fighting three opponents. Hillary, the moderator, and the media. If the media declares that Clinton won it's going to be hard to change that perception.

One way that can change however is with the power of social media both before, during, and after the debate.

If Trump goes on twitter and declares he won, with multiple online polls saying he won, with the trump hat twitter family supporting him and with the various "alt right" media such as breitbart backing him up, their advantage will be pointless.
#127625 - marinepenguin
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(5 hours ago) [-]
I actually think that the debate tomorrow is going to be pretty boring.

Hillary is going there just to convince people she isn't a dying woman, and Trump is trying to convince people he's not a crazy person.
#127649 to #127625 - akkere ONLINE
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(4 hours ago) [-]
These would be the pragmatic approaches, but neither of these candidates are pragmatic people.
#127650 to #127649 - marinepenguin
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(4 hours ago) [-]
I think they'll be forced to. Because if either of them messes up they'll likely lose the election. Especially as Trump is on the upswing and Hillary has been hurting.
#127659 to #127650 - akkere ONLINE
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(3 hours ago) [-]
I think it depends on the questions.
If they're asked questions that directly reflect this (Hillary's Health, Trump's exaggerated plans, etc.), then one or the other candidate will be on the attack while the other tries to establish the intended foreground, making the debate less passive than expected.
But I think even in those circumstances, the candidates will attempt to divert the question's subject, anticipating the impending attack if they let the clear opening subject linger.
#127635 to #127625 - whoozy
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(5 hours ago) [-]
I guess that's relevant points to make if you want to run for president
#127581 - redandgreen
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(6 hours ago) [-]
www.economicshelp.org/trade/benefits_free_trade/
clas.berkeley.edu/research/immigration-economic-benefits-immigration

I'm gradually learning a little more about economics as I think it might help me when I finish Uni, depending on what I do for my Masters.

So far.... Free trade is good and so is free movement of peoples. I haven't found that much division on that in the modern stuff I've read.
#127629 to #127581 - anon
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(5 hours ago) [-]
That's a very broad statement, matters pertaining to trade and especially migration should be looked at contextually.

Free movement of people is not good if you're bringing Somalians that will rape your women and don't speak a simmer of English.
#127573 - redandgreen
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(6 hours ago) [-]
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37466042

So, Jeremy Corbyn is relected as Labour leader in Britain. Can a very left wing party win in Britain?
#127660 to #127573 - anon
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(3 hours ago) [-]
a bit early to say but I wouldn't count on it.
#127633 to #127573 - thumbfortrump
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(5 hours ago) [-]
A large group of the working class doesn't feel represented by the left anymore. The left neglected their commitment to the working class by putting the interests of foreigners above the interests of nationals.
#127627 to #127573 - anon
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(5 hours ago) [-]
Nope.
#127574 to #127573 - redandgreen
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(6 hours ago) [-]
*re-elected
#127548 - unforgivensoul ONLINE
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(9 hours ago) [-]
Funny, didn't see a single fucking Indian in Florida or its airport. As soon as I fucking land in Buffalo, Indians out the gates. And you know for a fact they are all heading to Canada. They all drove to Buffalo from Ontario to fly somewhere in America. They're the most unattractive people to exist on the face on the Earth, even their children are not cute and eye sores.

There is such a vivid, strong difference between Ontario and Florida, it makes living here feel like shit. The good parts of America are undeniably better than anything in Canada.
#127663 to #127548 - anon
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(2 hours ago) [-]
Aluakbar! switzerland is so fucked.
#127668 to #127663 - unforgivensoul ONLINE
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(1 hour ago) [-]
Buddy its just an IP I have.
#127623 to #127548 - uglychino ONLINE
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(5 hours ago) [-]
Five best states for you and I
Hawaii
Alaska
California
Texas
Colorado
#127626 to #127623 - unforgivensoul ONLINE
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(5 hours ago) [-]
>Hawaii
>California
>Alaska

Are you a new troll or something?
#127628 to #127626 - uglychino ONLINE
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(5 hours ago) [-]
Three secludedable, beautiful, and drugged filled states.
#127630 to #127628 - unforgivensoul ONLINE
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(5 hours ago) [-]
>California
Total leftist shithole

>Hawaii
Not even America

>Alaska
Bum fuck nowhere

No thanks man.
#127636 to #127630 - marinepenguin
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(4 hours ago) [-]
Northern California I've heard is actually very nice and very conservative.

I'd love to live in Alaska imo
#127642 to #127636 - unforgivensoul ONLINE
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(4 hours ago) [-]
>shitty gun laws
>only state that specifically bans flamethrowers
No thanks man.
#127631 to #127630 - uglychino ONLINE
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(5 hours ago) [-]
I guess Texas is the best state in the world, huh?
#127634 to #127631 - unforgivensoul ONLINE
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(5 hours ago) [-]
I'm undecided as to what my most preferred state is, I simply have ones I would never want to live in/cities to never live near.
#127647 to #127634 - uglychino ONLINE
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(4 hours ago) [-]
I feel every state is liveable and has its own beauty.
Just f certain places if it's white folk suck and their estate taxes are ridiculous.
#127639 to #127634 - marinepenguin
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(4 hours ago) [-]
Personally I'd choose the mountains of Wyoming. Conservative state with about zero people around 95% of the time.
#127648 to #127639 - uglychino ONLINE
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(4 hours ago) [-]
How's the farming over there? I beat you can't fly much over there cause of the Air Force
#127653 to #127648 - marinepenguin
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(4 hours ago) [-]
Mostly ranching
#127670 to #127653 - uglychino ONLINE
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(14 minutes ago) [-]
They have buffalo's out there.
I think that's neat.
#127641 to #127639 - unforgivensoul ONLINE
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(4 hours ago) [-]
I'm not convinced that is necessarily a good thing or realistic. It really depends on the next couple of years and the career I pursue.

No people = No Jobs unless you're doing something like day trading, SaaS, Internet Marketing, ect
#127652 to #127641 - marinepenguin
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(4 hours ago) [-]
A job? I'd just go there to live as a hermit.
#127549 to #127548 - unforgivensoul
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#127551 to #127549 - marxist
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(9 hours ago) [-]
Nothing wrong with being a Marxist friendo
#127563 to #127557 - marxist
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(7 hours ago) [-]
You're gonna need more choppers, cyka.
#127552 to #127551 - unforgivensoul ONLINE
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(9 hours ago) [-]
The urge to block is really high, but I won't. Just please go away.
#127553 to #127552 - marxist
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(9 hours ago) [-]
#127558 to #127553 - shekelnator
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(8 hours ago) [-]
i got some helicopters in my city base if you want a ride
#127562 to #127558 - marxist
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(7 hours ago) [-]
I have a nice winter resort if you'd like to stay a while.
#127539 - youregaylol
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(10 hours ago) [-]
Libertarian Gary Johnson Gets Mad Loses It Dont Say Illegal Also pebar, like most people I don't pay much attention to Gary Johnson, but it also struck me as strange that he seems to be stealing more votes from Hillary than Trump.

I see why now, the man is a social justice warrior who talks about pot alot.

As a protest vote, sure, but you can't honestly like this guy.
#127614 to #127539 - uglychino ONLINE
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(6 hours ago) [-]
He did well as the govenor of New Mexico.
He wants to cut the military
And he wants to legalize pot since he eats it
To me the best moral choice between the three.
#127632 to #127614 - unforgivensoul ONLINE
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(5 hours ago) [-]
Watch the video about Gary "IT JUST IS" Johnson that OP linked further below for why to never vote for Cuckson.
#127617 to #127614 - youregaylol
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(5 hours ago) [-]
Morally speaking you'd be a sociopath if you didn't support Trump.
#127637 to #127617 - whoozy
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(4 hours ago) [-]
So you're voting Hillary?
#127638 to #127637 - youregaylol
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(4 hours ago) [-]
I have feelings. If I didn't I wouldn't be able to be a hate filled bigot.
#127643 to #127638 - whoozy
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(4 hours ago) [-]
At least you admit it
#127645 to #127643 - youregaylol
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(4 hours ago) [-]
I figured if you didn't have some reaffirmations about your ideology every now and again you'd be liable to self harm.
#127646 to #127645 - whoozy
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(4 hours ago) [-]
Probably
#127619 to #127617 - uglychino ONLINE
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(5 hours ago) [-]
Completely makes sense.
You're 100% right.
No arguing with you there my guy.
No point in it
#127622 to #127619 - youregaylol
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(5 hours ago) [-]
Finally someone reasonable.
#127582 to #127539 - redandgreen
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(6 hours ago) [-]
Still better than Trump.
#127583 to #127582 - youregaylol
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(6 hours ago) [-]
no thats wrong
#127584 to #127583 - redandgreen
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(6 hours ago) [-]
Well, he seems to be less authoritarian and probably better for the economy. So....
#127585 to #127584 - youregaylol
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(6 hours ago) [-]
ok but thats wrong....
#127586 to #127585 - redandgreen
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(6 hours ago) [-]
Why?
#127588 to #127586 - youregaylol
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(6 hours ago) [-]
Trump is less authoritarian and is probably better for the economy, from an objective standpoint.
#127589 to #127588 - redandgreen
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(6 hours ago) [-]
Objective evidence please.
#127593 to #127589 - theism ONLINE
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(6 hours ago) [-]
There's arguments to be made in favor of Trump but to say he's not authoritarian is just flat out wrong.
#127600 to #127593 - youregaylol
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(6 hours ago) [-]
He's actually the least authoritarian candidate in presidential history if you look at the objective facts.
#127606 to #127600 - theism ONLINE
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(6 hours ago) [-]
If you look at objective facts, you're wrong.
#127607 to #127606 - youregaylol
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(6 hours ago) [-]
Thats not very objective.
#127609 to #127607 - theism ONLINE
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(6 hours ago) [-]
Neither was what you said.
#127611 to #127609 - youregaylol
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(6 hours ago) [-]
It was, objectively speaking.
#127613 to #127611 - theism ONLINE
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(6 hours ago) [-]
Objectively speaking, it wasn't.
#127616 to #127613 - youregaylol
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(5 hours ago) [-]
If you look at the facts, it was.
#127618 to #127616 - theism ONLINE
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(5 hours ago) [-]
Looking at the facts, it wasn't.
#127620 to #127618 - youregaylol
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(5 hours ago) [-]
*Looking sly, I unbutton the top of my satin pearl designer button up, revealing the slightest hint of my pectoral grease, your face reflecting off my chest like a funhouse mirror in the humid Louisiana swamp heat*
#127621 to #127620 - theism ONLINE
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(5 hours ago) [-]
I'm not going to write gay porn with you.
#127624 to #127621 - youregaylol
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(5 hours ago) [-]
*You slowy take off your fanny pack, retrieving a mint condition 1958 prototype optimus prime action figure with laminated documentation and a signature from founder Henry Hassenfeld, and pour honey all over it, aggressively*
#127595 to #127592 - redandgreen
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(6 hours ago) [-]
Yeah, I'm not clicking that.
#127597 to #127595 - youregaylol
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(6 hours ago) [-]
You already did. Lying is a sin.
#127599 to #127597 - redandgreen
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(6 hours ago) [-]
No, I didn't.
#127601 to #127599 - youregaylol
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(6 hours ago) [-]
It informs me everytime I get a click.
#127602 to #127601 - redandgreen
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(6 hours ago) [-]
And I didn't click it.
#127604 to #127602 - youregaylol
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(6 hours ago) [-]
But you did. It informed me. Don't hide from facts.
#127608 to #127604 - redandgreen
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(6 hours ago) [-]
No, I didn't.
#127610 to #127608 - youregaylol
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(6 hours ago) [-]
Pls stop spamming the board it's pretty cringe.
#127612 to #127610 - redandgreen
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(6 hours ago) [-]
Idiot.
#127615 to #127612 - youregaylol
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(6 hours ago) [-]
lol
#127580 to #127539 - pebar
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(6 hours ago) [-]
I don't pay attention to individual politicians
He's not perfect but he's the best for liberty that's currently running
#127559 to #127539 - thumbfortrump
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(8 hours ago) [-]
"Why is that?"
"It just is"

Lmao, Gary 'whoisthisaleppo" Johnson bringing the rhetoric.
#127561 to #127559 - youregaylol
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(7 hours ago) [-]
Also consider that with the submission of Ted Cruz, the republican base is all but united and enthusiastic.

I can't wait for tomorrows debate.
#127560 to #127559 - youregaylol
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(7 hours ago) [-]
This is actually a good thing for Trump. This type of talk will turn off every republican who would even consider voting for Johnson.

But it will appeal to the democrats triggered by Trump but opposed to Hillary on moral grounds.

This might be the first election where the libertarians actually help the republicans. Added with Jill Stein, and the fringe candidates will be soaping up all the butthurt bernie bro support thats not split between Trump and Clinton.
#127540 to #127539 - youregaylol
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(10 hours ago) [-]
Gary Johnson is a Complete Idiot Oh and this
#127544 to #127540 - unforgivensoul ONLINE
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(10 hours ago) [-]
You need to login to view this link He already addressed it here
#127537 - youregaylol
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(11 hours ago) [-]
Do we have anyone here from a swing state?

pebar is from Colorado, but he wont MAGA.

I'm going to vote regardless but Texas is going to Trump no matter what. Swing state centipedes are master race.
#127577 to #127537 - pebar
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(6 hours ago) [-]
... no I'm not
#127578 to #127577 - youregaylol
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(6 hours ago) [-]
oh

i thought you were from some place weed related
#127579 to #127578 - pebar
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(6 hours ago) [-]
I have no interest weed
Even if it were legal, i still wouldn't smoke it

I just think the drug war is retarded
#127541 to #127537 - marinepenguin
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(10 hours ago) [-]
I'll be voting for Trump out of Illinois. So essentially my vote will mean nothing because of Chicago and East St. Louis.
#127564 to #127541 - unforgivensoul ONLINE
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(7 hours ago) [-]
TRUMP???? Don't you identify with the libertarian movement, why aren't you voting for Gary "It Just Is" Johnson? :^ )
#127565 to #127564 - marinepenguin
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(7 hours ago) [-]
While I do follow a lot more with the Libertarian groups, I can't see the Libertarian party actually following the basic principles of Libertarianism. Which Trump isn't going to either, don't get me wrong, but my main deal-maker is immigration and Johnson gets mad at calling Illegal immigrants illegals.
#127569 to #127565 - redandgreen
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(6 hours ago) [-]
I know we had this before but....

Trading freedom for security is not a good idea.
#127572 to #127569 - marinepenguin
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(6 hours ago) [-]
Trust me, nothing about this election or the current state of global affairs screams "ideal scenario" to me.
#127576 to #127572 - redandgreen
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(6 hours ago) [-]
I completely agree with that sentiment. Once you've given up those freedoms, though, no government is likely to give you them back.
#127591 to #127576 - marinepenguin
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(6 hours ago) [-]
You are speaking to the choir here, talking about government and freedom. Obama has greatly expanded executive power and Hillary will be essentially a continuation of his policy. I don't think Gary Johnson would change course even a slight bit.
#127570 to #127569 - marinepenguin
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(6 hours ago) [-]
Yes. But if we don't secure our borders we won't even have a nation.

Continuing to allow millions of people into our nation who overwhelmingly vote for bigger government and socialist states will lead to even greater erosion of all of our rights.
#127575 to #127570 - redandgreen
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(6 hours ago) [-]
The most common source country now is India and a lot of undocumented migrants are visa overstays. I don't think Trump has actually said anything about that.
#127587 to #127575 - marinepenguin
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(6 hours ago) [-]
That's a good reason why the IT industry has crashed, because these guys commonly work IT jobs on work visas for about half the wage as native workers.

Trump actually has voiced that he wants to end the bill that allows a lot of them to stay here. It's H-1B I believe.
#127590 to #127587 - redandgreen
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(6 hours ago) [-]
All I've heard reports on is the wall and muslims. I've no problem with immigration really (it'd be a bit hypocritical if I was against it).
#127596 to #127590 - marinepenguin
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(6 hours ago) [-]
Also, I'm not anti-immigration.
#127594 to #127590 - marinepenguin
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(6 hours ago) [-]
youtu.be/KOpZZFFqV0g

He's actually talked about it quite a bit. Though he's flipped on it quite a bit on what exactly should be done, he's been impressing me overall as a candidate in general.
#127598 to #127594 - redandgreen
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(6 hours ago) [-]
He flip-flops on everything. Another reason not to vote for him, you can't know what you'll get.
#127603 to #127598 - marinepenguin
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(6 hours ago) [-]
When he flip-flops, he doesn't completely change his opinion, he just changes what his exact plan to deal with the problem is. What I've seen recently is that he's actually been changing some of his positions and his demeanor based upon what a lot of people have criticized him about, which shows he has restraint and is actually willing to change due to criticism.
#127605 to #127603 - redandgreen
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(6 hours ago) [-]
He goes back and forth on subjects and gives no reasoning for it.

Unless he was being 'sarcastic'
#127568 to #127565 - unforgivensoul ONLINE
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(6 hours ago) [-]
Welcome to the club ;^ )
Make sure you vote even if you think Illinois is going blue. You must do it out of principle.
#127571 to #127568 - marinepenguin
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(6 hours ago) [-]
Well of course I'm going to vote.
#127535 - whoozy
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(11 hours ago) [-]
Is Sweden genuinly trying to kill itself now?
www.rt.com/news/360561-sweden-no-go-zones/
#127640 to #127535 - marinepenguin
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(4 hours ago) [-]
Sweden hasn't created a single private sector job since 1950 in terms of net private industry jobs in the country . The moment they started the movement to a planned economy they began their decline.
#127644 to #127640 - whoozy
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(4 hours ago) [-]
Our economy is half planned as is Denmarks
We're doing fine. This is about an insane immigration policy.
#127651 to #127644 - marinepenguin
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(4 hours ago) [-]
One of the largest reasons the Nordic countries do half as well as they do is because they don't have to pay for defense on top of them being essentially homogeneous nations.
#127654 to #127651 - whoozy
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(3 hours ago) [-]
We're getting close to our target of 2% of BNP spent on defence. We're not that bad.
It's just that the US spends more money on it's military than the rest of the world combined.
We don't really have the population for a big army, but we got some of the on average best equipped forces out there.

But yeah, we have a culture of everyone working together to take care of everyone. No one's left behind.
#127655 to #127654 - marinepenguin
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(3 hours ago) [-]
The US spends by far the most in total currency. But we don't spend even close to the most in comparison to our total GDP. I want to say we're like 30th in that regard.
#127656 to #127655 - whoozy
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(3 hours ago) [-]
Yeah, that would be North Korea.

The point though is that you shouldn't be so quick to judge a system you have yet to experience.

I wouldn't trade it for yours.
#127657 to #127656 - marinepenguin
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(3 hours ago) [-]
I criticise my own "system" 95% of the time. I really don't care about what other nations do economically, that's your business and your priority, not mine.

I take issue with it when people here, want to implement a lot of economic ideas from Europe or elsewhere, that I believe to be bad ideas. And one reason is exactly because our systems are different and a bad policy over there would likely be disastrous here.

#127658 to #127657 - whoozy
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(3 hours ago) [-]
But I didn't do this.
I was just defending our system after you blamed it for Swedens mess.

As I said earlier I'm fine with you doing you and us doing us.
#127545 to #127535 - unforgivensoul ONLINE
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(10 hours ago) [-]
...you...you just noticed now?
#127547 to #127545 - whoozy
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(10 hours ago) [-]
No you see, first I thought they tried to slowly ruin their economy
Then I thought they tried to speed it up to get a political reform quickly
Then I thought they actually wanted to slowly start to fall appart
Now it seems like they just want to end it as quickly as possible to ease the pain
#127550 to #127547 - unforgivensoul ONLINE
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(9 hours ago) [-]
The country is a complete laughing stock, I don't even think sensible liberals in America would want to move there. Couldn't pay me to live there.