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User avatar #76 - naroemcgarson (10/25/2013) [-]
The problem is that Christians like myself say that ours is a religion and teach it as such, where as Evolutionists say theirs is FACT, despite the total lack of proof which means that technically evolution is a religion as well, and teach it at every possible opportunity as such
User avatar #129 to #76 - naroemcgarson (10/25/2013) [-]
I really wish you guys would stop spouting this stuff that you have been, TAUGHT!!!

you tell me to "do some research", while at the same time repeating things you were TOLD are true. I say YOU go do some research, and when you can show me REAL proof not just school text books (that are rewritten every few years) or the media's lies, then come back and we will talk and you can give me bad comments and thumb me down all you like. however until then... SHUT UP YOU ******* HYPOCRITES!!!
#200 to #129 - icefall (10/25/2013) [-]
I might do a hasty generalization here but, GOD American Christians have so much ignorance...
Like, even the Catholic Church accepts evolution as a fact, and they don't find it contradictory with the bible. I feel like it is common to see people like this coming from the south of the US?
#223 to #200 - anon (10/25/2013) [-]
As someone who lives in Texas, I can confirm this.
User avatar #96 to #76 - Welshhobo (10/25/2013) [-]
Hey, i just put 5 million dollars in your bank account. I won't show you any transfer details or bank slips you just have to believe its there.
User avatar #90 to #76 - canadiantrekker (10/25/2013) [-]
Evolution has nothing to do with religion so calling it a religion is just stupid. And it does have a tremendous amount of evidence backing it up, which religion does not.
Do some research.
User avatar #89 to #76 - malhaloc (10/25/2013) [-]
Well evolution is a proven fact. But the argument I make is why can't that be the form God chose for creation to take?
User avatar #103 to #89 - noblexfenrir (10/25/2013) [-]
Well then you run into the problem of introducing god into a process that requires evidence to the claims it presents. Which results in the need of evidence for the newly added god aspect of the hypothesis. Especially when it works perfectly fine without god.
User avatar #110 to #103 - malhaloc (10/25/2013) [-]
Well my belief sort of combines the bible and evolution. The bible speaks of the Garden of Eden. Being literally paradise on Earth. No age, sickness, death, etc. So its possible that Adam and Eve were created by God and lived in the Garden during the time the rest of the world was going through the slow track, evolution.

The question then becomes what proof do I have that God had anything to do with anything in the first place. And for that I refer you to the big bang. We all know the story. An atom sized super dense mass, containing all the mass in the universe exploded and over billions of years we have all that is and ever will be. But where did the atomic mass come from? Was it created by God? Or was it always there? In the case of the latter, by definition the atomic mass then becomes God. An ageless being that has always been and people credit the construction of all existence to it.
User avatar #113 to #110 - noblexfenrir (10/25/2013) [-]
". But where did the atomic mass come from? Was it created by God? Or was it always there? In the case of the latter, by definition the atomic mass then becomes God. An ageless being that has always been and people credit the construction of all existence to it."

Except it would simply just be pre-existing matter with nothing special to it outside of the fact that it was always there. While there are better hypotheses on what caused the big bang, if it was always there, it wouldn't be "god". I mean you could certainly call it god, but if X=Y then why even have Y in the first place.
User avatar #85 to #76 - noblexfenrir (10/25/2013) [-]

Evolution is a proven scientific fact, it is a theory in the sense that we have massive amounts of evidence and proof of it occurring. We even see it happening in our daily lives today.

To say evolution doesn't occur is to be completely and willingly ignorant to the findings of the scientific community, to reinforce this with the idea that you are asking for more evidence from a proven theory, yet require no evidence outside of faith for a god, is just being intellectually foolish and pathetically hypocritical.
#206 to #85 - anon (10/25/2013) [-]
while i agree with you i must correct you. fact doesn't equal theory
User avatar #217 to #206 - noblexfenrir (10/25/2013) [-]
Well theory=fact in a scientific sense, in the 100% objective truth sense, you are absolutely correct though.
User avatar #101 to #85 - naroemcgarson (10/25/2013) [-]
there is a huge deference between saying "random mutations occur in living things" and "Inorganic matter became organic matter some how and all life is here as a result (or any other variant there of)"
User avatar #104 to #101 - noblexfenrir (10/25/2013) [-]
" "Inorganic matter became organic matter some how and all life is here as a result (or any other variant there of)""

Except this process isn't evolution, evolution is the development of life, it has no bearing on how life came to be created in the first place. That's where hypotheses like abiogenesis come into play.

Please, actually research a topic before you go off on saying it has no evidence.
#80 to #76 - zombieatemybrains (10/25/2013) [-]
There are dozens of reports, studies and facts that prove evolution is not a theory but a scientific fact. God could still exist with evolution, but athiests don't believe god exists at all. We have no proof to show whether god is real, or if god is not real. But evolution can be proved beyond a reasonable doubt.

tl;dr God might or might not be real, evolution is definitely real.
#79 to #76 - swooz (10/25/2013) [-]
its not a religion. religon is you believing there is a councious higher power controlling everything we do
User avatar #92 to #79 - naroemcgarson (10/25/2013) [-]
Merriam Webster's Collegiate Dictionary 10th edition quote"Religion 4, a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith."

and without proof there is only faith.
User avatar #107 to #92 - noblexfenrir (10/25/2013) [-]
Good thing evolution has plenty of evidence, faith isn't required. Science doesn't actually ever use faith, because outside of believing things people really really want, it's useless for determining if something is real or not.

If reality was based on faith then many people would be millionaires, no child would be unwantingly born with disease, noone would go hungry, etc. The fact is, it isn't.
User avatar #136 to #107 - shodaihokage (10/25/2013) [-]
not true the scientific revolution essentially resulted because man wanted to understand god
User avatar #149 to #136 - noblexfenrir (10/25/2013) [-]
and? The reasons of the people and the findings of the scientific process are two completely different things. Science does not bother with faith.
User avatar #150 to #149 - shodaihokage (10/25/2013) [-]
The reasons of the people enable them to question. Questions lead to hypothesis, and hypothesis may lead to answers.
User avatar #154 to #150 - noblexfenrir (10/25/2013) [-]
The very act of questioning something completely negates the necessity for faith then does it not? If a requirement of evidence ever is needed then faith is no longer applicable.

This is why the scientific method in essence, has nothing to ever do with faith. If we applied it to god himself, he wouldn't even be able to stand up to the requirement of evidence.
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