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User avatar #1 - charagrin (01/15/2014) [-]
Thats what I don't get about the glorification of rappers in general. "Well they are an inspiration because they rose above a life of crime and poverty to act as role models to future children"

No, just no. They rose above a life of poverty and petty crime to SING(I use that sarcasticly) about all the stuff they escaped from and give it a glorified air so others will try and emulate it.
User avatar #20 to #1 - sorenlolz ONLINE (01/16/2014) [-]
Blancka gets it. Not all rappers are that bad. He has some good examples, some other examples are NWA: they were just saying what's going on in their community. This song is my favorite example of this. Eazy-E - Eternal E Eazy E was my favorite rapper because he not only made great music, but he also had donated millions to charity. Eazy E also would donate his time to charities too. Other good examples are Ice Cube, and Snoop dogg.
#81 to #1 - Rascal (01/16/2014) [-]
>not all of them
#15 to #1 - blancka (01/15/2014) [-]
You don't listen to much rap do you? Just a few examples.

Eminem: Sings about how **** his life was before, but how he worked to make it better. How he's an angry person because of it but still loves his daughters and many issues such as bullying which people can relate to.

2pac: Sang about how ****** things are in ghettos. How it's up to the people there to tackle the issues and make a better community and other such things.

The glorified air of such acts you speak of is a representation of being a tougher person having overcome their problems in life. A lot of rappers had ****** childhoods and were treated like **** , so it's only natural they want to flaunt their success and be a bit egotistical, though this is only a few songs for most.
User avatar #16 to #15 - baaltomekk (01/16/2014) [-]
Yeah you just presented the two best counter arguments, but they are just exceptions from the rule. Most (!) rappers are as ****** as charagrin pointed out.
#17 to #16 - blancka (01/16/2014) [-]
No, you're just looking in the wrong places. I used those examples because they're famous. It's easily understandable.

Yeah sure kanye and lil wayne suck dick for example, but popular music today isn't very good as a whole is it? Rap is no different. I prefer older stuff.

It's also worth noting that a lot of the songs glorifying these things were written before the fame hit. Back when looking tough and getting respect was all a rapper would strive for.
User avatar #18 to #17 - baaltomekk (01/16/2014) [-]
Maybe it's just me, but all rappers I see (except for the exceptions mentioned before) are **** . Lil Wayne with his ****** lyrics (5 year olds could come up with better lyrics) and others from which I can't even remember the name who sing (sarcasm) about how cool they are because they get high on weed. And don't get me started on german rappers, they are even worse.
I agree that most music today isn't very good except for Rock/Punk/Metal. It's a good time to be a metalhead.
User avatar #33 to #18 - bjorntheberserk (01/16/2014) [-]
Good thing about metal is it is a very experimental genre you can literally list two metal bands and have them sound completely different but still be considered metal. Metal keeps on experimenting whereas most other genres found what works for them and milks the **** out of it.
User avatar #93 to #33 - baaltomekk (01/16/2014) [-]
Yeah I was on a metal concert two weeks ago called "Eisheilige Nacht" and there were four metal bands that played after each other. It was like a rollercoaster. Another plus for metal: nearly 6 hours concert for as little as 30 Euros.
User avatar #39 to #18 - oceanfrank (01/16/2014) [-]
lil wayne used to be a pretty good rapper. His album The Carter III was probably one of the better albums to come out in the 00's. He's sorta just... lost it. To tell you the truth I think rock/punk have had quite a downfall recently, I mean the fact that a poprock band made an album called, "Save Rock and Roll" and it turned out to be mediocre kinda says a lot about rock at this point in the world. Thank God RHCP and Foo Fighters are still out there.
User avatar #44 to #17 - oceanfrank (01/16/2014) [-]
Kanye and Lil Wayne both have insane lyrical talent. listen to The Carter III and Late College Dropout and prepare to hear an entirely different side of both of them. They've completely fallen from grace yes but it doesnt mean they're terrible.
#58 to #17 - rsd (01/16/2014) [-]
How can you honestly put Kanye and Lil Wayne in the same category? Kanye is one of the top 10 hip hop artists ever...and I'm not even a big fan of his.
User avatar #75 to #15 - hoponthefeelstrain ONLINE (01/16/2014) [-]
Some of Drake's songs are really emotional, talking about how he ****** up his love life over stupid **** .

Macklemore is also a good example.
User avatar #26 to #1 - vicsix (01/16/2014) [-]
Kendrick Lamar is a good example for what blancka is talking about. If you don't mind, actually listen to MAAD City or DRANK. They're both actually pretty deep songs about relatable struggles.
User avatar #29 to #26 - charagrin (01/16/2014) [-]
It was a one off comment on a forum, not an invitation to discuss the philosophy behind a genre of music known for it's glorification of a gang based lifestyle. I don't care if one out of every thousand artists don't follow the stereotype. Some murderers repent and regret their actions, doesn't mean I am going to invite them to watch my grandma, and daughters while holding my gun and knife collection alone in a room.
User avatar #30 to #29 - vicsix (01/16/2014) [-]
whoa, man. What's with the aggressiveness? I was just saying two songs by an artist I enjoy that might change your mind a bit. Calm down.
User avatar #32 to #30 - charagrin (01/16/2014) [-]
Because you are one of about a dozen people that have either commented or sent me messages on the subject. It got old, sorry to target you specifically, but I personally don't really care one way or the other what people like or think about any topic in general. I made a joke, and people are taking it way too seriously.
User avatar #34 to #32 - vicsix (01/16/2014) [-]
It wasn't a joke though, it was an opinion, and an opinion about a genre that is very broad.
User avatar #36 to #34 - charagrin (01/16/2014) [-]
Dats dah joke. I took a stereotype to it's conclusion in order to parody the genre itself. It's like saying black people like watermelon, it's a joke. Not all blacks like watermelon, some can't afford to taste it in the first place. See? A joke. I am happy(not really as I don't care one way or the other) that you enjoy rap, so lets leave it at that.
User avatar #43 to #36 - oceanfrank (01/16/2014) [-]
I AM 2 GUD FUR UR ****** MUNKEE RAP MOOZIK QUIT TRYING TO GIT ME TO LISTEN TO STUFF I MIGHT ACTUALLY ENJOY. God kill yourself, just say ok and dont listen to it, no need to sound like a ******* asshole
User avatar #46 to #43 - charagrin (01/16/2014) [-]
Somebodys bitchy. I don't not like rap, I just don't like rap. Nowhere did I say it was a bad choice. I also don't engage in gay sex, does that mean I hate gays too? Thank you for proving me right though. Because you are exactly my point. Not all people who like rap are assholes, but some are. And not all rap is glorifying crime, but most is.
User avatar #48 to #46 - oceanfrank (01/16/2014) [-]
lol well every action has a reaction and no you werent joking. You gave your opinion, someone gave you theirs, you didnt like it so you come about sounding like a pretentious and completely arrogant douchebag. Dont try playing it off as something you joked about because you sound (and still do) dead serious about this whole situation.
User avatar #49 to #48 - charagrin (01/16/2014) [-]
I don't care about rap, I don't care a little bit. I am just annoyed that people took a joke and turned it into something more. This is funnyjunk, I made a nod to a stereotype. I get that you don't believe me, and that is fine. Have a nice day.
User avatar #50 to #49 - oceanfrank (01/16/2014) [-]
it wasnt a joke, both you and I know it. Have a nice day.
User avatar #70 to #1 - stillnotbob (01/16/2014) [-]
Kendrick Lamar frequently commentates about drugs, sex, and alcohol. I mean they're things that have been in use by teenagers for a long time, but Kendrick shows the negative aspects of them.
#22 - ihateemo (01/16/2014) [-]
LIsten here you neckbeard elitist ***** I have news for you.

Metal is not the only music worth listening too, stop trying to put down other genres of music because you think you are cooler for listening to metal. It is annoying, it does not make you cool no matter what type of music you listen too.

You listen to music to be happy, not so you can fit into a group.
#68 to #22 - Lintutu (01/16/2014) [-]
I like whatever sounds catchy. I admit that i do like very few dubstep/katy perry/lady gaga etc. But i have a VERY selective music choice. If it sounds too much like **** within the first 5 seconds of the song, i won't even give it a chance
#94 to #68 - ihateemo (01/16/2014) [-]
That is cool with me man. If thats what you like to listen to do it.
User avatar #74 to #22 - hoponthefeelstrain ONLINE (01/16/2014) [-]
Rap is only acceptable on Fj if Eminem is the rapper in question.
#95 to #74 - ihateemo (01/16/2014) [-]
Eminem is a washed up sell out. Nothing about him is special or edgy any more. His flow would be killer if he still wrote his own music but sadly he doesn't.

User avatar #54 to #22 - mondominiman ONLINE (01/16/2014) [-]
I never liked metal and I wasn't that excited for rock and roll either. People like jimi hendrix never really sounded that good to me.
#56 to #54 - ihateemo (01/16/2014) [-]
I won't go onto why people like him and EWric clapton are overrated. I'll save that for another day <3
User avatar #35 - imcadence (01/16/2014) [-]
i actually like lil waynes rapping
#60 to #35 - epicmotherfuckers (01/16/2014) [-]
found the ******
#77 to #35 - jellydickpenis (01/16/2014) [-]
Yeah he has some pretty clever lines in his songs, and he's not as stupid as everyone would like to portray him, its just the common case of bandwaggon hate.
User avatar #38 to #35 - spazzin (01/16/2014) [-]
- Nobody
User avatar #40 to #38 - imcadence (01/16/2014) [-]
no me i like his rapping
User avatar #42 to #41 - imcadence (01/16/2014) [-]
yup
User avatar #45 to #42 - Proximity (01/16/2014) [-]
I disagree with your opinion.
User avatar #53 to #45 - imcadence (01/16/2014) [-]
thats fine
#57 to #53 - fergferg (01/16/2014) [-]
I also don't mind lil wayne
User avatar #66 to #41 - onceman (01/16/2014) [-]
n terms of lyric meaning and substance, I agree with imcadence and here's proof
Tie My Hands - Lil Wayne ft. Robin Thicke
In terms of word play, lyricism, and bars (rhymes) this is agood example (not the best, it's just a random one
Cassidy Lil Wayne Fabolous 6 Minutes of Death
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#2 - phreestuffpls (01/15/2014) [-]
Since when does lil wayne say "hey kids go out there and do drugs". He doesn't, he says "I do drugs, love me or hate me idc." If your child is encouraged by rap music that they aren't even old enough to listen to, then your not doing parenting right. That's like watching someone jump off a cliff and saying "I was encouraged to jump off this cliff now I must do it." Can't a person live their life without being judged?
User avatar #76 to #2 - hoponthefeelstrain ONLINE (01/16/2014) [-]
I think the problem is, these kids don't have positive male role models in their lives (fathers) so they make these rappers/ athletes their role models.

Not saying every black kid comes from a broken home or every kid being raised by a single more is going to listen to rap. Just a thought.
User avatar #4 to #2 - infinitereaper (01/15/2014) [-]
YEAH!
Fight discrimination against serial killers.
#13 to #2 - blancka (01/15/2014) [-]
But without those kids who will buy his albums?
#71 - drunkzoomonkey (01/16/2014) [-]
wayne is god
#55 - kaboozle123 (01/16/2014) [-]
for god's sake every genre has ******* horrible artists and of course the genre looks horrible if you pay attention to nothing but the bad artists. rap in general has become something to cater to white suburban people which happened after the time tupac and biggie were shot. people thought it was cool to be gangster and we see what happened today.

you want some good rap? start with tupac or biggie and go from there. jay z is also a decent rapper in my opinion.

don't limit yourself to one genre. this is coming from someone who listens to marilyn manson, nine inch nails, Tupac, biggie, queen, bob dylan, niel young, pretty much anything that i find enjoyable
#78 to #55 - hashtronaut (01/16/2014) [-]
The thing is.. he's the douchebag they support through the media. He's the one that people hear when they're new to the genre and it discourages them from even WANTING to dig deeper.

I'm a hip-hop head, and I also create my own...and I won't go anywhere near the radio r tv's options for my genre. But, I also know where to look and whom to look for. Some kid turning on the tv doesn't.


That said: here's some suggestions for stuff I personally find merit in.

Grieves, Brother Ali, Atmosphere (whom are all 3 under the same label), Cunninlynguists, Sadistik, Wrekonize (of mayday), Eyedea (rest in peace), Big Krit, and although they're pretty well known at this point, Outkast has some brilliant work in their catalog.
User avatar #85 to #55 - roflnaut (01/16/2014) [-]
I listen to pretty much every genre but country.
It just doesn't mesh well with me.
#47 - Rascal (01/16/2014) [-]
**anonymous rolled a random image posted in comment #10 at (untitled) ** what I'd like to see him fight
#5 - skullnigga (01/15/2014) [-]
>implying he's saying go out and do drugs and drink alcohol
if you actually listened to some of his songs they're decent
asap
#12 to #5 - blancka (01/15/2014) [-]
They're not decent. Not even close.
#28 to #12 - skullnigga (01/16/2014) [-]
didnt ask you, what music do you listen to
didnt ask you, what music do you listen to
User avatar #19 to #5 - kexio ONLINE (01/16/2014) [-]
show us a decent one then mate
#21 to #19 - Rascal (01/16/2014) [-]
Mirror - lil wayne
Forever -Eminem, Kanye, and lil wayne
Not half bad if you're a fan of rap.
User avatar #64 to #19 - onceman (01/16/2014) [-]
Tie My Hands - Lil Wayne ft. Robin Thicke this is more than decent
User avatar #80 - mrdrpage (01/16/2014) [-]
I always hear that "Durr Lil Wayne can't rap." "All he says is ****** omg hurr/ ****** doesn't rhyme with ****** "
He doesn't try to rhyme the word " ****** " with " ****** ".
He usually takes the word/phrase just before " ****** " and makes them rhyme.
Example:Man, **** these ******
I-I'ma spare everything but these ******
I flip the gun and gun butt these ******
Take the knife off tha AK and gut these ****** .
He takes the words " **** , but, butt, and gut" and rhymes them.
He says ****** because it keeps the beat flowing.

His lyrics are incredibly witty. You just have to listen to it.
"Real G's move in silence like lasagna." That's ******* genius.

Say what you want, but Lil Wayne is a victim of the elitists assholes who only like "the old stuff" and "my genre is the best genre" cuntbags. Even if Lil Wayne is an asshole.
#82 to #80 - lolfire (01/16/2014) [-]
I don't know if my intersenses are getting worse or I'm just tired...   
   
But you....can't...actually be serious? Are you?
I don't know if my intersenses are getting worse or I'm just tired...

But you....can't...actually be serious? Are you?
User avatar #83 to #82 - mrdrpage (01/16/2014) [-]
I am serious. I don't like the guy, but he isn't as bad as he is made out to be as a rapper.
User avatar #72 - tacogrenade (01/16/2014) [-]
man **** you guys,

rapping isnt all about lyrics, its the flow..

im sure lil waynes lyrics are as pointless as tom araya **** slayer is sic afff

or the retarded jap **** anime nerds listen to...
User avatar #87 to #72 - sirnigga (01/16/2014) [-]
**tacogrenade is a huge faggot**
User avatar #63 - onceman (01/16/2014) [-]
Tie My Hands - Lil Wayne ft. Robin Thicke this (Lil Wayne) song is so powerful and if this Dr. Boyce heard it, he'd probably have second thoughts

If you care to listen, it's basically about New Orleans and Hurricane Katrina, if you don't think Lil Wayne has talent, you don't know enough of his music to actually judge him.
User avatar #84 to #63 - loneranger (01/16/2014) [-]
I saw your avatar and all I have to say is Echte Liebe, BVB. That is all.
#67 to #63 - wumbus (01/16/2014) [-]
THANK YOU! people just think because lil' wayne's music sucks now that he's always been a fag... not true. I feel like people forget that he grew up with actually nothing. Money changes everyone though, it's a shame he lost his old self.
User avatar #69 to #67 - onceman (01/16/2014) [-]
It wasn't the money as much as just the fact that he lost his drive and motivation to be the best, the carter 3 put him on top and then No Ceilings was great, but not his best for a mixtape, and Carter IV was decent, his work has noticeably gone downhill. But there are WAY worst rappers, I already consider Weezy a legend, when people look at his legacy, they'll just look at his stuff from his prime.
User avatar #86 to #69 - weirdojones (01/16/2014) [-]
No ceilings solidified weezy as a top tier rapper in my eyes.
User avatar #91 to #86 - onceman (01/16/2014) [-]
It was dope, but doesn't compare to Da Drought 3 or Dedication 2
User avatar #92 to #91 - weirdojones (01/16/2014) [-]
Nothing compares to dedication 2
User avatar #79 to #67 - hashtronaut (01/16/2014) [-]
IMHO He's been wack since hot boyz...and only got worse.
User avatar #37 - nightmaren (01/16/2014) [-]
Nobody's encouraging anybody to do anything. Also saying **** like "you're an enemy of the black community because I don't agree with your music" makes you a cunt.
I don't like lil waynes music, but I hate elitist pricks like this guy who just try to stand against music they don't like. You're not going to like every ******* song that comes on the radio. If you don't like it, change the station, or get the **** over it.
#51 to #37 - Rascal (01/16/2014) [-]
you're clearly missing the ******* point here you dumbass
User avatar #52 to #51 - nightmaren (01/16/2014) [-]
Then enlighten me
#6 - nationalanthem ONLINE (01/15/2014) [-]
human SPECIES*
User avatar #7 to #6 - mauerman ONLINE (01/15/2014) [-]
go away
#8 to #7 - nationalanthem ONLINE (01/15/2014) [-]
are you serious right now??
#10 to #8 - Rascal (01/15/2014) [-]
Yes, die.
User avatar #62 - halor (01/16/2014) [-]
reminds me of that idiot chief keef who says his music will increase the murder rate in chicago....imbeciles
User avatar #59 - bothemastaofall (01/16/2014) [-]
>black community
Wasn't aware skin color made you part of a community
User avatar #61 to #59 - thegamerslife (01/16/2014) [-]
apparently. I guess I am part of the white community,,, or should we go deeper? I am part of the german/dutch community.
User avatar #88 to #61 - bothemastaofall (01/16/2014) [-]
Nah nah, apparantly the entirety of all blacks have one community. Apparently this includes everyone from Africans to Jamaicans. Because this makes so much sense, we should do that too.
User avatar #89 to #88 - thegamerslife (01/16/2014) [-]
won't this all just start the whole racist thing back up!?
User avatar #90 to #89 - bothemastaofall (01/16/2014) [-]
Nuh uhhh, this was Dr. Boyce Watkin's idea.
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#27 - Rascal (01/16/2014) [-]
Lil Wayne doesn't even do any of that **** . It's part of his rapping persona, being a tough, **** the police type of rebel. It's part of his act to get haters and you guys fall right into it because you make assumptions without doing actual research.
#14 - Rascal (01/15/2014) [-]
I think as people we should make our own choices and decisions. I'm some what of a lil Wayne fan and I've never heard any of his lyrics tell me to indulge in his alcoholism or drug addiction, it's the lifestyle he chooses and puts it in his songs. This is Fox News and video games all over again.
User avatar #3 - jacklane (01/15/2014) [-]
Me gusta....
#9 to #3 - arandomanon ONLINE (01/15/2014) [-]
It's Spanish, ******* . It has nothing to do with the meme.
#11 to #9 - Rascal (01/15/2014) [-]
That smile face makes it just as cancerous tough.
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