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#57 - kanatana (12/19/2013) [-]
**kanatana rolled a random image posted in comment #6901605 at Safe For Work Random Board ** I like posts like these. Education is never a bad thing. Thanks for the post, OP.
#89 to #57 - Rascal (12/19/2013) [-]
i don't know why but the picture just makes it more relevant for some reason
#47 - blastauros (12/19/2013) [-]
Maybe she just saw they use mercury and remembered the time she drank the fluid inside her thermometer and got very sick
User avatar #68 to #47 - biomedic (12/19/2013) [-]
would explain the mental retardation.
#71 - xsap (12/19/2013) [-]
fedoras are the leading cause for autism,

User avatar #139 to #71 - burningchimera ONLINE (12/20/2013) [-]
I know i'm a brony and this may be biased, but can we please stop with the whole autism thing? I actually have autism and it's kinda getting a little offensive.
User avatar #95 to #71 - malinko (12/19/2013) [-]
if i could give you more thumbs, i would.
User avatar #84 to #71 - darkangeloffire (12/19/2013) [-]
Someone needs to learn the magic of friendship
User avatar #3 - TheBearerOfBadNews (12/19/2013) [-]
Ok, now we wait for the anti-vaccine comments............Lets play spot the retard!
#25 to #3 - firesky (12/19/2013) [-]
There are some vaccines necessary or at least advisable (MMR, TBE) and some that are more for money making (flu)
User avatar #30 to #25 - TheBearerOfBadNews (12/19/2013) [-]
The flu vaccine is a difficult one.. There are so many variations of flu that it is hard to immunize against it forever, hence a new one each year. At risk individuals (OAPS, infants, asthmatics, the immunocomprimised, etc) who are more than likely to be made very ill or die from flu are good people to vaccinate. Your average person not so much but it is usually voluntary for the vaccine.
#42 to #30 - firesky (12/19/2013) [-]
But you get my point?

It's about the cost/efficiency ratio. Imo the flu one can cause more harm than it saves people as so few people die of the common flu. As you said there are so many variations each year so it's nearly impossible to get a reliable vaccine each year. So every year they choose a few virus strains they believe getting risky this year and mix it into a vaccine.

I understand parents that try to avoid most vaccines not absolutely necessary like chickenpox or measles as most children go through the illness without any harm. I for myself had chickenpox when I was 8, there was no vaccine at that time, tough. All I have from it are 2 little scars.

Refusing vaccines completely on the other hand is, indeed, completely retarded.
User avatar #50 to #42 - TheBearerOfBadNews (12/19/2013) [-]
I entirely agree with you in relation to your cost/efficiancy statement but no vaccines do any great harm. if they did then they would be pulled from use or not make it there at all. The whole point of my argument is basically to not worry so much about the effect of having a vaccine. Sometimes vaccination isn't the right answer, so we dont make or use one. Sometimes its a good idea to be on the safe side so we give one to vulnerable people. And sometimes its a damn good idea such as the case for smallpox.
#56 to #50 - firesky (12/19/2013) [-]
Well, they can cause harm if your immune system is weakend. If you're allready ill and don't know it/ignore it and get a vaccine it can cause harm (Still at an extremely small chance, tough)

Or if a baby has a immunodeficiency and gets the MMR, that shouldn't happen but let's be honest, if hospitals manage to ampute the false leg this will also happen.

I'd look at it like this: How probable can I/my child become ill with desease XY, how much is the probability of it doing permanent damage/death and compare it to the chances that the vaccine does harm. Most times the vaccine will be chosen as the threat goes against zero most of the time.

I think it's good when people concern themselves with this theme and not think in black (All vaccines are bad and I/my kid don't need them) and white (I/my kid need to be vaccinated against everything) but think about if a jab is necessary or not.
User avatar #58 to #56 - TheBearerOfBadNews (12/19/2013) [-]
your right human error does come in to it. we all make mistakes. The world is definitely not black and white but it is lighter shade of gray than most people think.
User avatar #79 to #58 - grandlordchicken (12/19/2013) [-]
Almost 50 of them you might say?
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User avatar #154 to #103 - alfjnn (12/20/2013) [-]
Technically; all vaccines are are deactivated or weaker strands of the virus they try to cure.

So if you have a ********* immune system; it is possible, technically speaking.

Personally, I don't trust the left wing.
User avatar #208 to #103 - dblej (12/20/2013) [-]
As far as the vaccine against uterine cancer goes, it wasn't specifically for uterine cancer. It was for another disease that causes a much greater rate of uterine cancer. I believe the vaccine was for hpv and just like when people get the flu shot there's a chance that the body won't fight off that infection and it'll cause the person to be infected and in this case lead to the greater chance of uterine cancer.
User avatar #1 - clechyl (12/19/2013) [-]
Penn & Teller's Bullshit - Vaccinations
User avatar #2 to #1 - trollzoll (12/19/2013) [-]
First thing I thought about too.
User avatar #4 to #1 - kittyhatesyou (12/19/2013) [-]
ok, where are the studies he used to back his "facts" up?
User avatar #5 to #4 - clechyl (12/19/2013) [-]
I don't know, why don't you google it?
User avatar #7 to #5 - kittyhatesyou (12/19/2013) [-]
Oh I did, a whole research paper came from it. You know what I found?
User avatar #8 to #7 - clechyl (12/19/2013) [-]
I don't really care that much, but what did you find?
User avatar #9 to #8 - kittyhatesyou (12/19/2013) [-]
There are some kids with genetic markers that are more susceptible to the toxins mentioned above, including myself and my sister who died from SIDS. It's funny that when the two kids out of five almost died from SIDS were the only ones who had vaccinations at an early age.
User avatar #17 to #9 - TheBearerOfBadNews (12/19/2013) [-]
A 2 minute cursory glance at the internet informs me that you might be full of **** ...

Vennemann MM, Butterfass-Bahloul T, Jorch G, et al. (January 2007). "Sudden infant death syndrome: no increased risk after immunisation". Vaccine 25 (2): 336–40. doi:10.1016/j.vaccine.2006.07.027. PMID 16945457.

Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (SIDS) and Vaccines

Vaccines are a form of medical treatment. All medical treatments carry risks and side effects. For example, one of the most common hospital admissions related to an adverse reaction to a medication is with Aspirin causing GI bleeds. Most of the side effects have such a tiny chance of occurring that they have little effect on the general population. In short there are commonly used drugs that have way more side effects and are more dangerous than vaccines.

In relation to what you are saying about genetic markers, I agree that there are certain individuals who carry genetic polymorphisms that predispose them to adverse reactions to certain substances. However, these polymorphisms only occur in a tiny percentage of any given population and are relatively easy to track and identify. For example, certain ethnic groups are known to have increased sensitivity to certain drugs, such as Chinese populations and some other Asian populations are uniquely sensitive to alcohol due to a polymorphism in one of there CYP450 enzymes responsiblr foe breaking down alcohol. This is not a reason to get panicky about vaccines. Medicine is all about trade offs. A small risk that certain individuals may have an adverse reaction against herd immunity against deadly diseases capable of killing millions? I like those odds....
User avatar #20 to #17 - kittyhatesyou (12/19/2013) [-]
Well at least you researched it, put a decent source behind it and didn't resolve to calling me retarded. Given that I respect your finding but my opinions do not change and I strongly feel that vaccinations should not be mandatory to attend public schools.
User avatar #23 to #20 - TheBearerOfBadNews (12/19/2013) [-]
I'm not in the business of being insulting. I respect your right to an opinion but it's not really a matter of opinion when it comes to the benefit of vaccines. Its a matter of fact that their benefits massively outweigh their risks. I also agree that nothing should be "forced" on anyone but we need to be rational in our decision making and make sure that we make the decision that is best for everyone. My only interest here is education and making sure people are informed. I don't want to be argumentative but this is something I feel strongly about.
User avatar #28 to #23 - kittyhatesyou (12/19/2013) [-]
I also feel strongly about it, and I also agree that people should be informed before they make a decision. I won't go to clinics and protest vaccines, if you want one get one but know all the risks vs benefits before so
User avatar #112 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (12/19/2013) [-]
In The Netherlands over 2000 children got infected with measles including over a 100 of them being in the hospital and one of them even dying, all in the parts where people refuse to vaccine their children due to being an extremely religious part there.

Despite the ******* fact that vaccine denial is infecting and killing innocent teens and children some political parties are still saying that vaccines shouldn't be mandatory due to some ******** about respect of personal belief. Jesus ******* christ dude this has nothing to do with personal belief, this is about the ******* well being of children.
User avatar #66 - bemmo (12/19/2013) [-]
Woop woop, dat ass too phosphat
User avatar #63 - romdomcom (12/19/2013) [-]
This is coming back to bite LOADS of people in my area. All the parents who refused to get their kids vaccinated in the 90's because of the autism thing had to queue for hours outside hospitals because there was a measles outbreak. Two people died from something easily preventable.
#10 - Rascal (12/19/2013) [-]
Who cares?This is pretty much all that's left of natural selection in non third world countries.

Let the bloody mongoloids not take vaccines if they don't want to.
#12 to #10 - bdawgb (12/19/2013) [-]
Because what they decide also gets inflicted onto their child- which sucks for that child.
User avatar #15 to #12 - trollinggenius (12/19/2013) [-]
they' would be the ones parenting the child, which sucks for the child too.
#16 to #15 - bdawgb (12/19/2013) [-]
that as well, that as well
User avatar #48 to #10 - serhiy (12/19/2013) [-]
what happens if a parent forces a child into not having them.
#45 to #10 - jackii (12/19/2013) [-]
If natural selection on humans were still in progress then someone would've killed you already while you were looking away typing a comment.
#33 to #10 - pridefulmatthew ONLINE (12/19/2013) [-]
That's not how it works, the resurgence of those diseases is not because certain people are not getting the shots. It is because too many people are not getting them, there will always be people that dont get certain shot (whether for religious reasons or because of being allergic reasons) the problem comes when stupid people (i.e- vaccines give children autism) are in such numbers that the diseases are able to make a comeback. Google herd immunity, thats the reason we destroyed those diseases in humans, not because everyone was getting immunized.
#109 - oosulley (12/19/2013) [-]
Let these people not get vaccinated. Enjoy Diphteria, Whooping Cough and Mumps.
User avatar #129 to #109 - heartlessrobot (12/19/2013) [-]
The more people that have the disease, the more likely vaccinated people will get it. Your immune system can only handle so much.
User avatar #134 to #109 - Hreidmar (12/19/2013) [-]
Oh **** I recognize this game! It's been such a long time since I've played it though... man, you just gave me a nostalgia trip.
User avatar #138 to #109 - hellomynameisbill ONLINE (12/20/2013) [-]
and meningococcal disease, hpv, etc
User avatar #14 - bakinboy (12/19/2013) [-]
people who are against vaccine's and gmo's are ******* retarded.
there is zero evidence that either is harmful
User avatar #93 to #14 - konradkurze (12/19/2013) [-]
thanks Murican

so tell then why does europe ban all american GMO food....
hmmm.cant be because they actually independantly tested it and found out america lied and that they DO cause medical issues
User avatar #116 to #93 - gammajk (12/19/2013) [-]
Marijuana is also illegal in most european countries, that doesn't mean it's any worse for you than alcohol and cigarettes which ARE legal there.
And I don't even smoke weed.
User avatar #172 to #116 - konradkurze (12/20/2013) [-]
well i dont smoke weed either but i know the only reason its illegal is due to the paper industry being threatened by the notion that hemp can replace paper in so many ways, thus they paid off the government to make weed illegal

alcohol and cigarettes are only legal because so many people are hooked on them they make a nice sales tax profit to the government....alcohol isnt so bad its only a problem because of cuntnuggets who cant drink sensibly,,....but smoking is a ****** habit that should be stopped, it serves no purpose

GM is illegal because unlike usa, europeans actually care a little about their citizens health (though debatable in england where the cattle fed hormones poop into the rivers and thus fish suck them up and people eating beef of fish are getting estrogen in their food)
#187 to #172 - Rascal (12/20/2013) [-]
http : You need to login to view this link

GM isn't illegal in Europe you absolute ******* cretin.
User avatar #186 to #172 - gammajk (12/20/2013) [-]
>i know the only reason its illegal is due to the paper industry being threatened by the notion that hemp can replace paper in so many ways, thus they paid off the government to make weed illegal
That's actually retarded and not at all the reason why it's illegal
>alcohol and cigarettes are only legal because so many people are hooked on them they make a nice sales tax profit to the government
Doesn't explain prohibition
>alcohol isnt so bad its only a problem because of cuntnuggets who cant drink sensibly
Alcoholics are a very large portion of people who drink alcohol. And yes, it is REALLY ******* bad for you.
>but smoking is a ****** habit that should be stopped, it serves no purpose
>anti gmo ****
Get your information from places other than youtube propaganda videos like Seeds of Death, please. GMOs aren't ANYTHING like you think they are. There is NO causal link between the use of GMO foods and negative health impacts.
User avatar #188 to #186 - konradkurze (12/20/2013) [-]
prohibition was only started when religious nuts got on a bandwagon against alcohol, but then later when the dustbowl issue hit usa the president himself made alcohol legal had nothing to do with health issues it was just bible bashers being anti on 'the devils drink'
alcoholism is a mental issue of dependant personalies....if they werent addicted to booze theyd be addicted to something else....those headjobs dont represent all drinkers

theres plenty of evidence from european research to support GM foods cause issues, from birth defects in unborn babies to creating pre-cancer cells

the american FDA saying "theres nothing wrong with GM food" is on a similar level as the us army claiming their depleted uranium shells didnt cause gulf war syndrome
User avatar #190 to #188 - gammajk (12/20/2013) [-]
>on a similar level as the us army claiming their depleted uranium shells didnt cause gulf war syndrome
You should stop believing everything liberal hippies tell you and do some research on your own. You might learn something, about both GMOs and gulf war syndrome.
User avatar #195 to #190 - konradkurze (12/20/2013) [-]
right, keep up the denial
youre a lost cause, good day little child
User avatar #198 to #195 - gammajk (12/20/2013) [-]
Go ahead and post either:
A single link between GMO foods and negative health benefits in a peer reviewed paper
A proven link between DU shells and gulf war syndrome.

Go ahead. I'm waiting.
User avatar #199 to #198 - konradkurze (12/20/2013) [-]
Mr Potato, have you ever read up on GWS? care to explain why it has the symptoms comparable to radiation poisoning

plus who did the 'study' on GWS...the Dept of Veterans Affairs.....the same lovely agency thats been vigorously denying so many severaly wounded returned veterans any assistance to live life when back in usa....
User avatar #210 to #199 - gammajk (12/20/2013) [-]
>care to explain why it has the symptoms comparable to radiation poisoning
I'll do that when you explain why NO other war where DU shells have been used have produced these symptoms.
User avatar #211 to #210 - konradkurze (12/20/2013) [-]

seriously kid, the japs tested the middle east after usa was in there, the levels of radioactive material left in Afghanistan after 9/11 were ********* higher than the levels found in iraq after the gulf war

check your facts murican
there are so many veterans and civilians suffering from usa's use of uranium in the gulf war, the balkan war and this current war, just usa loves playing the game of controlling the information to maintain public opinion

theres already a ********* of negative public opinion just from there being a war at all, you think the people would be so 'nice' if word got out of usa poisoning people just to win wars
User avatar #223 to #211 - gammajk (12/21/2013) [-]
>>the balkan war
And there you go. You once again demonstrate your complete ******* ignorance. There were NO cases after the balkan war where soldiers suffered from GWS-like symptoms.
Not only that, but people who have ACTUAL PIECES OF DEPLETED URANIUM embedded in them also don't show the symptoms, not even the ones who have a measurable amount of uranium detected in their urine.

PLEASE research things before ******* spewing out whatever ******** suits your purposes.
>seriously kid,
>check your facts murican
I am neither a kid nor American. Pretty ironic coming from somebody that posted

>you think the people would be so 'nice' if word got out of usa poisoning people just to win wars
>just usa loves playing the game of controlling the information to maintain public opinion
Why are you so set on the narrative that they are doing all of this on purpose? Why the **** would they poison their OWN SOLDIERS? Do you even know what depleted uranium is used for in war? No, of ******* course you don't, because you do the same level of fact checking as the ******* "vaccines cause autism" crowd.
#224 to #223 - konradkurze (12/21/2013) [-]
a whole day lter, little derp is still denying things based in his knowledge of american website information

here you go little potato, ill let you win this argument
have a gold start
User avatar #225 to #224 - gammajk (12/21/2013) [-]
Really? You can look up literally everything I said and find out that it's fact, but no, you won't ******* do that, because you aren't interested in learning and you aren't interested in rationality. You just want to keep holding on to your pathetic narrative and refuse to admit that you could possibly be wrong.
User avatar #226 to #225 - konradkurze (12/21/2013) [-]
rationality aka taking americas word for it and ignoring others facts

perhaps you should stop playing the game of america vs the world and accept other countries have other opinions that conflict with yours

bye bye gump
User avatar #227 to #226 - gammajk (12/21/2013) [-]
>rationality aka taking americas word for it and ignoring others facts
There is no source called "america". I'm not getting my sources from "". What the **** are you even talking about? You can verify what I said with evidence from EVERYWHERE, not just ******* america. I don't know why the **** you keep bringing up "america's word" and "america this" and "america that" when we are talking about DEPLETED ******* URANIUM, not the US.
>other countries have other opinions that conflict with yours
You do not represent your entire country. Countries are not a single ******* person.
YOU are the only one with an "opinion" here. I'm bringing facts to the table and all you're doing is just flat out ******* denying them.
#228 to #227 - konradkurze (12/21/2013) [-]
you know
you bring to mind a line i read in a history book about ww1.....when trying to resolve the post-war diplomacy, the french president of the time stated
"its difficult to negotiate with the americans because they have a tendency to preach rather than listen"

look kid, the US military 'ruled out' most of the stuff they used that could have contributed to GWS so they could point the finger at the arabs and blame their nerve gasses as the culprit
most of the symptoms of GWS are consisntent with radiation poisoning, and on the side, the US isnt going to admit its own use of nerve agents hurt their own people too, so blamed the nerve agents from the arabs

if youre so determined to deny everything and say the DU shells didnt hurt americans, and the arabs didnt have DU, you mind telling me what nerve agent could possibly create similar effects to radiation poisoning?
User avatar #229 to #228 - gammajk (12/21/2013) [-]
You're ******* hopeless. I'm really ******* glad that you aren't from where I'm from.
#230 to #229 - konradkurze (12/21/2013) [-]
here child, i think you need this, youre running out of retarded insults
you may as well just troll this way

btw im glad im not where your actually allowed independent thought here
#192 to #190 - Rascal (12/20/2013) [-]
He's either a brilliant troll, or a terrifying example of what the human mind can be twsited into producing.
User avatar #107 to #93 - aldheim (12/19/2013) [-]

GMO cannot cause any problems by default. There is no single problem you could come up with that would encompass all GMOs. Some of them are merely made to produce more of what they already produce.

Sure, when people **** up and do something stupid (for example, modifying crops to produce pesticides) it can be a problem.
User avatar #108 to #107 - konradkurze (12/19/2013) [-]
so european scientists proving GMOs cause birth defects in pregnant mothers is just a lie because anything that contradicts america is false, right?
User avatar #111 to #108 - aldheim (12/19/2013) [-]
This has nothing to do with America. I live on the opposite side of the world from America, and I'm still taught, in my University level genetics classes, that there's nothing wrong with genetic modification.

Most often, what goes into one plant just comes from another, commonly eaten plant, and it's just a segment of DNA, not chemically different in the slightest. And what is produced is a normal, commonly eaten plant protein, not chemically different in the slightest.

It'd be great if you provided the paper that proves GMOs cause birth defects, because if there's any truth to it I'd really like to know.
User avatar #113 to #111 - konradkurze (12/19/2013) [-]
because schools are going to teach you the truth

they simply want kids to grow up thinking theres nothing wrong with GM food so you grow up eating that **** with no regard for its problems and when you get sick or have mutant kids,'ll be conviced it must be something else that caused it.....

similar deal to how troops in vietnam were told agent orange wouldnt hurt them it was only harmful to look at them....medically sick and their kids and in some cases grandkids are defects

plus with them mixing dna from plants theyre intentionally ******* with people who have allergies....theyre eating a plant they think is safe and getting dna from plants theyre allergic to
#143 to #113 - Rascal (12/20/2013) [-]
Holy **** are you retarded. You really need to lkearn what GMOs are and maybe some of the basic biology behind them before your crippling stupidity tears a hole in space.
User avatar #165 to #143 - konradkurze (12/20/2013) [-]
oh look, an anonfag talking **** . theres something new
go home troll, use than porn and read up about the harm of GM
#180 to #165 - Rascal (12/20/2013) [-]
I'll read up on the harm of GM as soon as any credible research shows there is some.

Your stupidity is fine as long as it's just you getting hurt by it, once you start trying to spread your ignorence then I'm entitled to tell you to eat a big ole bag of dicks.
User avatar #183 to #180 - konradkurze (12/20/2013) [-]
here little potato
have some bedtime reading as a start

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#185 to #183 - Rascal (12/20/2013) [-]
Oh I remember your name now.

Your one of those 'Here, I found a blog of someone as ******* insane and stupid as I am - the scientific community can go **** itself.' morons.

I withdraw all of my previous statements. You aren't worth the effort.
#189 to #185 - konradkurze (12/20/2013) [-]
we'll id try and label something onto you but youre too *********** to log in and be an adult,
ill bet youre one of those trolls who shout abuse at protesters from 40 feet away so you have a good headstart to run like a bitch when they get mad at you

< people like you just cant be reasoned with
#193 to #189 - Rascal (12/20/2013) [-]
Irony overload.
#196 to #193 - konradkurze (12/20/2013) [-]
go home little troll
youre drunk
User avatar #126 to #113 - RandomAnonGuy (12/19/2013) [-]
As an aspiring teacher, go **** a landmine you sordid sopping salty cunt.
User avatar #114 to #113 - aldheim (12/19/2013) [-]
So European scientists are right, but the institutions that train and educate them are wrong?

And so snaps the last thread of logic. Have fun with your life, I hope to never speak to you again.
User avatar #53 to #14 - youhei (12/19/2013) [-]
zero evidence that you hear about.

my father is allergic to most gmo stuff, he can't eat regular apples, watermelon, oranges, peaches, pears, ect and quite a few vegetables raw or he'll swell up and need to go to the e.r.

the organic stuff is fine, as is the local stuff.
#72 to #53 - Rascal (12/19/2013) [-]
he's allergic to it because it contains new antigens that he hasn't come into contact with before. This comes from whatever it the new genes came from. However the majority of people would have come into contact with it, since it's usually from another plant. So it's like arguing you think grass is dangerous and shouldn't be allowed because you get hayfever.
#166 to #53 - Rascal (12/20/2013) [-]
Then he's allergic to a group of pesticides.

Ironically one of the benefits of GM foods is that you can modify the plants so that farmers don't need to use pesticides.

Thank you also for providing a fantastic example of why we don't use anecdotal evidence when making general decisions.
User avatar #167 to #166 - youhei (12/20/2013) [-]
if it was just the pesticides, wouldn't thoroughly cleaning it solve the problem? and since pesticides are chemicals, wouldn't they be present after cooking?
#181 to #167 - Rascal (12/20/2013) [-]
The only difference between organic and non-organic foods are the types of pesticide and fertilizer used. If he can't eat normal fruit but can eat organic (Which isn't even a protected term.) then it must be to do with the pesticides - assuming we're ruling out nocebo or other neurological effects.
#81 to #53 - cptnigelofwolf (12/19/2013) [-]
Your father is a liar
User avatar #97 to #81 - youhei (12/19/2013) [-]
my eyes must be too then.
User avatar #105 to #14 - bjorntheberserk (12/19/2013) [-]
I took a few biology classes and we talked extensively about GMOS. GMO can mean anything like crossbreeding or selective breeding. And we have been doing that **** since the dawn of agriculture. People just want stuff to complain about nowadays. And all this "But it gives you cancer because there is a rise in cancer cases" ******** is just that ******** . The reason why there seems to be a rise in cancer cases is because medical science got better at detecting cancer. 200 years ago they barely knew what cancer was so if you died from cancer they probably would have determined the cause of death as something else.
User avatar #110 to #14 - bjorntheberserk (12/19/2013) [-]
Also people want to go all organic and natural and non-vaccinated. Like people did hundreds of years ago. But I say to them good luck living til you're 50 because that is how long people lived back then if they were lucky. Reason why are life expectancy is so high right now is because of vaccines, and GMOs.
User avatar #122 - maxismahname (12/19/2013) [-]
I bet the person who posted the retarded picture thinks that dihydrogen monoxide is bad, scary, and causes autism or down syndrome or whatever these dicknipples believe.
User avatar #130 to #122 - mastertarium (12/19/2013) [-]
I love it!!
Except excess amounts of it can kill you and if inhaled too much, it can kill you. Not enough of it can kill you!!
I love dihydrogen monoxide!!
User avatar #141 to #130 - maxismahname (12/20/2013) [-]
Me too, I especially enjoy taking it to school with me in a special sealed container and consuming it through out the day
#207 to #141 - sgtxrootbeer (12/20/2013) [-]

i see retards everywhere believing this...
User avatar #75 - amuro (12/19/2013) [-]
This deserves to reach FP
#100 - doctorkolo (12/19/2013) [-]
A friend of mine got REALLY ******* sick from a flu shot once. And he NEVER gets sick! (His mom just randomly decided that all the kids were getting them that year).
He was vomiting, totally delirious, couldn't even form a coherent sentence, and overall just looked like **** .
Anyway, I'm kinda paranoid about flu shots now. But I still think kids should get their proper vaccinations.
#106 to #100 - Rascal (12/19/2013) [-]
Ever thought he could have picked up a strain he wasn't vaccinated against? It is probably just pure coincidence.
#132 to #100 - herosoldier (12/19/2013) [-]
The flu vaccine is a guess of what the flu is made up of so there is no guarantee that it will work since the flu virus is constantly changing. And vaccines tend to be made up of dead or weakened viruses so if there is a chance of getting sick, then its a very small one.
The flu vaccine is a guess of what the flu is made up of so there is no guarantee that it will work since the flu virus is constantly changing. And vaccines tend to be made up of dead or weakened viruses so if there is a chance of getting sick, then its a very small one.
#135 to #100 - captnpl (12/19/2013) [-]
Was he allergic to eggs?
User avatar #151 to #100 - alfjnn (12/20/2013) [-]
Well; Yeah.
Probably because the flu vaccine gave him the, you know.. flu.
That's how those work.
#136 - kkkkkkkkkkkkkk (12/20/2013) [-]
how the hell is tumblr content on front page what the ****
User avatar #150 to #136 - alfjnn (12/20/2013) [-]
This isn't the front page.
User avatar #51 - youhei (12/19/2013) [-]
the only vaccinations i get are the ones you get like every 10 years, like tetanus and **** .

however, i'll never get a flu shot. i don't get sick easily and i know several people that get the shot every year and get violently sick with the flu anyways
User avatar #65 to #51 - romdomcom (12/19/2013) [-]
They would get the flu as they're at risk of it. Imagine them getting a stronger strain of flu and ending up in hospital with pneumonia.
User avatar #87 to #51 - invshika (12/19/2013) [-]
I had Guillan-Barré syndrome so I can't get the flu shot!
User avatar #91 to #51 - konradkurze (12/19/2013) [-]
true story
every year i hear the tv and even some people on the street bitching about "the super flu is coming"...

i dont get the shot...worst i get is a few sniffles.....everyone who gets it has to either stay home sick as **** or walks around looking sick as **** from the shot messing them up

so what exactly did they need it for....they could just do as some of us do and live healthy to build up an actual immune system
User avatar #59 to #51 - TheBearerOfBadNews (12/19/2013) [-]
there are lots of strains of flu virus its just bad luck if you get one that you aren't vaccinated against.
User avatar #60 to #59 - youhei (12/19/2013) [-]
eh, i don't see them as really neccessary unless you're at risk of dying from it, like the elderly or infants and really weak
User avatar #69 to #60 - funbaggy (12/19/2013) [-]
Yeah but when someone who won't die from the flu gets it they can still pass it on to others who can die.
User avatar #99 to #51 - bjorntheberserk (12/19/2013) [-]
Flu shots are worthless the vaccine you get is usually made from last year's strain of flu and by the time you get vaccinated it already mutated.
User avatar #67 to #51 - biomedic (12/19/2013) [-]
It makes sense for the old and weak to get a flu shot, but it's reasonably pointless. There's so many strains that mutate all the time you could never be immune. I agree with you, best just to get vaccinated against deadly preventables and let your immune system tough out the rest.
User avatar #6 - kittyhatesyou (12/19/2013) [-]
See I just did an essay about this and there are some kids with genetic markers that are more susceptible to the toxins mentioned above. So when governments make it mandatory to take these if you are going to attend public school it is obviously going to affect the kids with these genetic markers.
#73 to #6 - Rascal (12/19/2013) [-]
Affecting 0.000000000001% of the population? We should maybe consider these genetic markers aren't something we want in the gene pool anyway. It's like preserving all these genes that cause mental retardation... where is it going to take humanity. Natural selection needs to take these genes away.
User avatar #74 to #73 - kittyhatesyou (12/19/2013) [-]
So are you going to commit mass genocide to everyone with any mental deficiency anywhere? To kids with slight ADD to aging people with Alzheimer? By the way if it was natural selection there would be predators to eat the ones who can not keep up, so you are going to send children with Down's syndrome into the wilds of Asia to be eaten by tigers?
#144 to #74 - Rascal (12/20/2013) [-]
It's not mass genocide when the risk is statistically insignificant.

To put into context - being that the risk is insignificant you'd be better moff starting a campaign against putting babies in cots because statistically they are far more likely to be injured because of it than having a vaccine.
User avatar #145 to #144 - kittyhatesyou (12/20/2013) [-]
You said that natural selection needs to take those genes away, so that means you want to kill me, my little sister my little brothers, my mother and father and anyone qualified in your opinion to be not as worthy as the whole population. Kinda sets the beginnings of mass genocide.
So because it is statistically insignificant (and by the way exactly which statistics are you going off of?) That everyone should be forced to be given vaccinations?
#147 to #145 - Rascal (12/20/2013) [-]
Different anon. See below as to what natural selection actually says.

Statistically insignificant in that currently the study of whether vaccinations cause autism is one of the largest collective medical studies ever conducted and encompasses millions of children across every ethnicity and nationality in the world. The overwhleming evidence is that there is absolutely no causation whatsoever between the two and therefore the 'risk' is statistically insignificant.

Identically, the risk is statistically insignificant for you to grow a penis on your forehead from eating a twinkie.
User avatar #152 to #147 - kittyhatesyou (12/20/2013) [-]
So because it only effects a small percentage that percentage can go screw themselves?
#156 to #152 - Rascal (12/20/2013) [-]
If we decided policies based on everyone being guaranteed to benefit then we would never make a policy.

That statistical benefit to an individual - any individual in the population, whether they carry these mystical genetic traits you mentioned - is many times larger than the insignificant risk of harm to them. Hence why the sensible, rational and logical policy is to vaccinate everyone.

The couple of guys that react weirdly have a ****** time, but you cannot possibly make policy based on a few what ifs.
User avatar #160 to #156 - kittyhatesyou (12/20/2013) [-]
So the I can just go screw myself cause apparently you didn't pay attention when I said that I have had detrimental effects thanks to vaccinations, when I got off of their schedule all of a sudden I made leaps and bounds mentally and physically. So, you just do not care that my life would be a living hell if I am forced to take vaccinations, you wouldn't want me to attend school, to have a job or live as a normal person because I am not strong enough to live through having mercury shot into my veins
#163 to #160 - Rascal (12/20/2013) [-]
Oh i understand that allergic reactions can be a thing with vaccinations (Usually people also allergic to eggs and things.) For that reason we have alternatiove ones that use other bonding agents etc.

However for the few that cannot have conventional vaccinations you still have herd protection as long as all the other, healthy, people do have their vaccine.

I would be interested in what diagnoses you were given?
User avatar #170 to #163 - kittyhatesyou (12/20/2013) [-]
Strong ADD, almost died of SIDS, Aspergers (that I'm not sure was vaccines)
#177 to #170 - Rascal (12/20/2013) [-]
None of those would cause the symptoms you described. All of them interestingly either occur most frequently, or start to become diagnosable within the same timeframe as infant vaccinations are given. This is why people are often suspicious of a link but none has yet been found.
User avatar #179 to #177 - kittyhatesyou (12/20/2013) [-]
I was diagnosed as a preteen about two years into I was taking according to schedule, I was showing symptoms for all of that time. Before I had the vaccines though I was straight A's in school without the need for medicine or what have you
#184 to #179 - Rascal (12/20/2013) [-]
I can't possibly draw conclusions from someone elses anecdotal evidence but all the research would simply suggest that it was coincidence in your case.
User avatar #120 to #74 - oosime (12/19/2013) [-]
you just distorted everything that guy said to make him sound evil.
User avatar #127 to #120 - kittyhatesyou (12/19/2013) [-]
No, natural selection needs the ones who are weaker to die off first as to not reproduce enough as the stronger ones, so this is what he is saying is the right thing to do.
#146 to #127 - Rascal (12/20/2013) [-]
Thats not what natural selection says at all. Natural selection is about how likely an individual is to reproduce. The one's with worse traits (Your previously mentioned downies which, I'm sure you realise, have a huge social stigma attached and have ridiculously low reproductive rate as a result.) don't necessarily have to 'die off first' they simply have to not reproduce. It's worth noting that actually none of the mental defects you listed would be altered even if you did take a 'just kill them' approach because of the way each is caused which makes it a somewhat futile exercise and utterly removes the barbed backlash that you were going for.
User avatar #148 to #146 - kittyhatesyou (12/20/2013) [-]
As the case may be, do you still agree that everyone should be vaccinated even it is against your religion or personal views? That it just does not matter what a person think they are going to be shot up with vaccines?
#158 to #148 - Rascal (12/20/2013) [-]
Yes. Herd protection is a large part of why and how vaccination works. People not getting vaccinated puts more than themselves at risk, it puts the entire community at risk. This is the very reason we are currently seeing outbreaks of diseases such as mumps and rubella that only a 20 years ago we had all but wiped out.
User avatar #162 to #158 - kittyhatesyou (12/20/2013) [-]
If you want a vaccination then you should get one, how are they blaming it on the carrier or the person who got sick and not the person who did not act on their belief and go get one. Do not give me the bull crap about it is too expensive for some people, if the government really wants everyone to have one it should be cheap, almost free to get one.
#164 to #162 - Rascal (12/20/2013) [-]

The rest of us have sensible healthcare systems.
User avatar #169 to #164 - kittyhatesyou (12/20/2013) [-]
Yea american and if it is free then get one if you want one
#178 to #169 - Rascal (12/20/2013) [-]
Well they're as 'free' as anything else on a national health service. But the point still stands that large part of the effectiveness of vaccines is in herd protection. People SHOULD get their kids vaccinated and I'm glad that there is a social stigma and backlash against those that don't.
#80 - gmanofwonder (12/19/2013) [-]
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User avatar #24 - wanpo (12/19/2013) [-]
Stupid personal belief time?
This is stupid and I know it's stupid, but I can't help but think that sometimes Scientists can't find an answer for some things so in fear of not looking smart they just make things up.
Red thumbs and mean comments deserved.
User avatar #61 to #24 - drulludanni (12/19/2013) [-]
thats what fortune tellers and such people do, scientists cannot state something as true (rightfully) unless it is proven to be true (or at least backed up by good evidence) and medicine/vaccines cannot be licensed unless it is proven to be effective. Some scientist might make a discovery in something but before that discovery is accepted as true that discovery must first be reviewed by other scientists in the same field.
User avatar #70 to #24 - biomedic (12/19/2013) [-]
That's simply ******** .
User avatar #82 to #24 - huffe (12/19/2013) [-]
yeah, it might look like that sometimes, probably because some of the stuff they find out is pretty far out
User avatar #29 to #24 - tarekmig (12/19/2013) [-]
So you're implying that you know more than a group of scientists?
So explain to me, how do you know that they make that stuff up and it is not true, You know; you're not a scientist, You're way smarter than one.
User avatar #31 to #29 - wanpo (12/19/2013) [-]
I never said I was smarter than I scientist.
May I refer you to the "stupid belief" part of my comment.
User avatar #32 to #31 - tarekmig (12/19/2013) [-]
So you're actually an scientist?
User avatar #34 to #32 - wanpo (12/19/2013) [-]
Never said that either. This comment was simply my ignorance speaking.
#64 to #34 - Rascal (12/19/2013) [-]
So if you know it's ignorant and stupid, why still believe it?...

Seriously. Scientists don't make **** up because in every single study they make, there will be a thousand other scientists looking through their data and tests doing their absolute best to prove that one scientist wrong.

If they got caught making **** up, they would have whatever licence they need to practise their profession (like a medical licence) taken away and their careers would be ruined.
#41 to #24 - jackii (12/19/2013) [-]
Some scientists have lied, but they get into a ******* of **** for it.
User avatar #27 to #24 - TheBearerOfBadNews (12/19/2013) [-]
I can assure that scientists don't just make things up that make it into a drug.... it would never get passed any peer review or testing
User avatar #39 to #27 - wanpo (12/19/2013) [-]
I don't know. Just my ignorance speaking I guess.
I'm going to stop posting things on the internet. They never go well for me, even when I'm beating myself up.
User avatar #86 to #39 - metalmind (12/19/2013) [-]
And they can actually go to jail if they fake medical research.
It would constitute fraud in may cases.
User avatar #121 to #86 - RandomAnonGuy (12/19/2013) [-]
But not in June cases, because in June anything goes.
#88 to #39 - Rascal (12/19/2013) [-]
You should kill yourself.
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