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User avatar #10666 - geothermal (13 hours ago) [-]
In looking for trigger locks that would fit a gun with a trigger that connects to the grip, like an m1911
User avatar #10672 to #10666 - weaponexplain ONLINE (19 minutes ago) [-]
I know they make small trigger locks for 1911s. They're usually not very thick though. If you're just trying to keep the gun inoperable when its put away, why not just get a cable lock? A lot of places give them out for free. They also prevent any rounds from even being put into the gun.
#10648 - roliga (12/19/2014) [-]
Seriously considering taking the money I put down on the Springfield Loaded 1911 at my lgs and putting it on a Sig P220. Only about a $100 difference between them. Both are single stock .45's and are just as thin as each other. I don't mind the first shot being double action, but I can get it in SAO if I want.
#10668 to #10648 - hatsune (4 hours ago) [-]
why the hell would you buy a sig when HK exists
#10669 to #10668 - roliga (4 hours ago) [-]
Because I already have an HK
#10670 to #10669 - hatsune (4 hours ago) [-]
not in .45
User avatar #10671 to #10670 - roliga (3 hours ago) [-]
Yet
User avatar #10650 to #10648 - roliga (12/19/2014) [-]
Edit: Just bought in full a NIB Sig P220 w/ Sig night sights for $749 on gunbroker. Should be here in a week or two.
User avatar #10659 to #10650 - weaponexplain ONLINE (22 hours ago) [-]
Awesome
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#10647 - roliga has deleted their comment [-]
#10644 - sideism (12/19/2014) [-]
what is the likelyhood of someone surviving a torso shot with a 7.62mm nato?
User avatar #10673 to #10644 - weaponexplain ONLINE (17 minutes ago) [-]
Pneumothorax is a bitch. From what I've heard.
User avatar #10654 to #10644 - lurifax (12/20/2014) [-]
Would be difficult, I'm sure. Not a gun/medicine personality so I wouldn't know, but this text might explain it.

This author has not tested other European 7.62 NATO rounds, but the "NATO standards" apparently allow bullet designers great latitude in the choice of bullet jacket material and thickness. In 1979 a published high-speed x-ray photograph showed the Swedish 7.62 equivalent to the 7.62 NATO bullet breaking in a soap block shot at a range of 100m. Although bullet fragments were not recovered and photographed (the importance of bullet fragmentation in tissue disruption was not well recognised at the time), one must suspect the same very disruptive behaviour from this bullet as from the West German round. This is particularly ironic since the Swedish wound ballistics program was using every means possible to discredit the M16 as "inhumane" while, at the same time, Sweden was producing a 7.62 mm military bullet that caused far more extensive wounds than the M16.

www.uthr.org/SpecialReports/Military_rifle_bullet_wound_patterns.htm
User avatar #10649 to #10644 - gibroner (12/19/2014) [-]
I'm not a doctor I would say probably not very good
#10643 - solarknight (12/19/2014) [-]
I'm looking for a good cheap American rifle chambered in 7.62 NATO and a good cheap scope. Any ideas?
User avatar #10660 to #10643 - weaponexplain ONLINE (22 hours ago) [-]
If you're still looking and don't have a problem with bolt actions, check out the Tikka T3 line of rifles. They're really great rifles for the price. Usually run 500-600. Whats your budget on optics?
#10662 to #10660 - solarknight (22 hours ago) [-]
let's say $500
User avatar #10663 to #10662 - weaponexplain ONLINE (22 hours ago) [-]
Let me get back to you. I had an arduous day dealing with Ace Combat and Super Smash Bros.
#10664 to #10663 - solarknight (22 hours ago) [-]
infinity?
User avatar #10665 to #10664 - weaponexplain ONLINE (22 hours ago) [-]
Fuck that piece of trash. I busted out the PS2 and played 5 and Zero.
User avatar #10646 to #10643 - roliga (12/19/2014) [-]
If you want a good American rifle in 7.62 NATO and a good scope you can not go cheap. These two do not mix. But for a good American 7.62 NATO gun you can't go wrong with an M1A and they can be had for around as low at $1,500. As for a scope you can go cheapish to have an extremely reliable scope that will not break from recoil. You'll need to get into the $200 - $400 range for that, Nikon makes good scopes.

Remember, buy cheap, buy twice.
#10656 to #10646 - solarknight (12/20/2014) [-]
well, what about 30.06?
User avatar #10657 to #10656 - roliga (12/20/2014) [-]
Remington 700
User avatar #10661 to #10657 - weaponexplain ONLINE (22 hours ago) [-]
Pre 2005ish, then sure
#10658 to #10657 - solarknight (12/20/2014) [-]
aw what happened to your last avatar?
User avatar #10645 to #10643 - sideism (12/19/2014) [-]
>good
>cheap

pick one
#10639 - mexicandudeinsd (12/19/2014) [-]
whats up /guns/
so i got another 10/22
and now i can dual wield them
thoughts?
#10655 to #10639 - strangesir ONLINE (12/20/2014) [-]
>Dual-wielding two rifles/carbines

Are you insane?

I tried that shit with even longer .22 bolt-actions. Thankfully was stopped by neighbor-friend's pal before I actually did it.
User avatar #10667 to #10655 - mexicandudeinsd (12 hours ago) [-]
its insane that im not trying to wield three!
hahaha someone has to stop the madness
User avatar #10641 to #10639 - roliga (12/19/2014) [-]
Well... okay.
User avatar #10640 to #10639 - weaponexplain ONLINE (12/19/2014) [-]
Was there a particular reason you got a second one?
User avatar #10642 to #10640 - mexicandudeinsd (12/19/2014) [-]
not really, they were for $99 each (like $140 with paper work and taxes)
and for my little bro to get him into shooting and just having another .22 lying around doesnt hurt
User avatar #10633 - weaponexplain ONLINE (12/18/2014) [-]
Watching Lost right now. Why do actors always teacup handguns like a faggot? Why does Hollywood think that the right way to hold a pistol isn't as cool?
#10637 to #10633 - youregaylol (12/18/2014) [-]
teacupping is actually the most tactical way to hold a handgun because your hand is being pulled to the ground by gravity and since you're lower the thermodynamics will all synch up and get you almost infinite headshots because the bullet will follow the pull of the weight combined with your hand and also cause the recoil to become non existent.
User avatar #10634 to #10633 - roliga (12/18/2014) [-]
Because California a shit
#10620 - meowykins (12/18/2014) [-]
When people say the AR in AR-15 means "automatic rifle."
User avatar #10629 to #10620 - weaponexplain ONLINE (12/18/2014) [-]
When people think ATF is a government agency and not an acronym for a really good time.
#10625 to #10620 - youregaylol (12/18/2014) [-]
yea, it actually means assault rifle

*waits for comments*
User avatar #10627 to #10625 - weaponexplain ONLINE (12/18/2014) [-]
No it doesn't you stupi...

Whoa now wait a minute, you almost got me you son of a bitch!
User avatar #10630 to #10628 - weaponexplain ONLINE (12/18/2014) [-]
wut
#10610 - alimais (12/17/2014) [-]
The more I look at Austrian weapons ( especially from Steyr) the bigger my boner gets    
   
de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_der_Handfeuerwaffen/S#Steyr
The more I look at Austrian weapons ( especially from Steyr) the bigger my boner gets

de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_der_Handfeuerwaffen/S#Steyr
User avatar #10613 to #10610 - mexicandudeinsd (12/17/2014) [-]
list of hand weapons?
User avatar #10616 to #10613 - weaponexplain ONLINE (12/17/2014) [-]
Pretty much. Literally the word is hand-fire-weapons. But the meaning in English is just small arms.
#10614 to #10613 - anonymous (12/17/2014) [-]
list of hand held firearms I think
User avatar #10605 - quincyadam (12/17/2014) [-]
hello /k/omrades
#10609 to #10605 - youregaylol (12/17/2014) [-]
shut the fuck up quincy
seriously
User avatar #10608 to #10605 - weaponexplain ONLINE (12/17/2014) [-]
I think you are referring to our inebriated cousin.
User avatar #10607 to #10605 - roliga (12/17/2014) [-]
no
#10585 - masterPlol (12/16/2014) [-]
I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask, but I search a picture of soldier, I think it was a swedish one, who gaves his gun to a child while the soldier had a funny and weird face expression. Thank you!
#10564 - iyellatstuff (12/16/2014) [-]
Opinions on a Century Galil? I know it's century but galils are sexy as fuck.
#10588 to #10564 - anonymous (12/16/2014) [-]
I hab one

The firing pin broke on it after about 700 rounds
It was fixed by century, and broke again after 500 rounds.
Bought an 8$ original Galil firing pin which has worked flawlessly.

With a scope and good ammo, it can shoot ~2 MOA easily.
Going to take my scope mount off and throw some wood on it instead.
User avatar #10589 to #10588 - drewbridge (12/16/2014) [-]
Forgot to log in.
They break down exactly like AK's, have the same internal reliability. They are fun, interesting looking guns.
User avatar #10590 to #10589 - roliga (12/16/2014) [-]
Pic?
User avatar #10573 to #10564 - mexicandudeinsd (12/16/2014) [-]
looks sexy tho
User avatar #10571 to #10564 - roliga (12/16/2014) [-]
Century has seriously upped their QC lately, I wouldn't worry about buying their products. Other than that

>wanting a jew AK
User avatar #10569 to #10564 - violenthandjob (12/16/2014) [-]
There can be such a large multitude of things wrong with them that I wouldn't ever risk buying one again myself.
User avatar #10568 to #10564 - weaponexplain ONLINE (12/16/2014) [-]
Is there a reason besides looks you want it? If you're going for function there are better rifles to get for about the same price. (750-850)
User avatar #10565 to #10564 - danield (12/16/2014) [-]
>shooting the jew gun
User avatar #10544 - thesoulless (12/16/2014) [-]
I have a chance to get my hands on a Steyr AUG for airsoft with like 8 mags and 2 batteries for $300. I'm so excited.
User avatar #10618 to #10544 - gibroner (12/18/2014) [-]
wrong board buddy
User avatar #10602 to #10544 - quincyadam (12/17/2014) [-]
>/asp/
#10594 to #10544 - hatsune (12/17/2014) [-]
but you could buy a real one for $2000
User avatar #10596 to #10594 - thesoulless (12/17/2014) [-]
Not in Canada, sadly.
#10597 to #10596 - youregaylol (12/17/2014) [-]
commie go home
User avatar #10598 to #10597 - thesoulless (12/17/2014) [-]
Commie is home, though...
#10599 to #10598 - youregaylol (12/17/2014) [-]
then commie stay home, you're grounded   
   
 does it make you angry that you can never truly pew pew like we can?
then commie stay home, you're grounded

does it make you angry that you can never truly pew pew like we can?
User avatar #10600 to #10599 - thesoulless (12/17/2014) [-]
Nah, besides, if I really wanted to pew pew that badly, I could always go to Capitalism Land and pay someone to let me pew pew.
#10601 to #10600 - youregaylol (12/17/2014) [-]
but you'll never experience the joy of hoarding a vast array of beautiful firearms and assorted ammunition in your garage legally

ill give you this though, you guys can actually get sawed off shotguns without paying a shit ton of licensing fees, i think
User avatar #10604 to #10601 - thesoulless (12/17/2014) [-]
I can always hoard a vast array of airsoft guns and their assorted ammunition.
#10622 to #10604 - youregaylol (12/18/2014) [-]
why not just collect slingshots and pebbles

nerd
User avatar #10623 to #10622 - thesoulless (12/18/2014) [-]
But slingshots aren't tacticool!
User avatar #10603 to #10601 - thesoulless (12/17/2014) [-]
Short barreled shotguns are legal as long as the barrel is no shorter than 8.5 inches, the total length of the gun is no less than 30 inches, and the action is hand operated, but modifying a barrel to be less than 18 inches can get you up to ten years in a federal prison.
#10621 to #10603 - youregaylol (12/18/2014) [-]
we can have 18 inches without getting into NFA territory, although this doesn't apply to black powder muzzle loading shotguns.
User avatar #10563 to #10544 - iyellatstuff (12/16/2014) [-]
Welcome to /guns/ friend! It seems that you have accidentally clicked on the wrong board in the menu. Perhaps try /videogames/ or /autism/. If you want to talk about firearms in the future, feel free to come back!
#10562 to #10544 - youregaylol (12/16/2014) [-]
Welcum 2 gun friend! Seem you have accident click on wrong menu. Try /guns/ or /guns/. If want talk bout pew pew future, free cum!
User avatar #10560 to #10544 - bitchitroll (12/16/2014) [-]
Welcome to /guns/ friend! It seems that you have accidentally clicked on the wrong board in the menu. Perhaps try /videogames/ or /autism/. If you want to talk about firearms in the future, feel free to come back!
User avatar #10553 to #10544 - roliga (12/16/2014) [-]
Welcome to /guns/ friend! It seems that you have accidentally clicked on the wrong board in the menu. Perhaps try /videogames/ or /autism/. If you want to talk about firearms in the future, feel free to come back!
User avatar #10554 to #10553 - thesoulless (12/16/2014) [-]
What, are you Roliga or something?
User avatar #10546 to #10544 - weaponexplain ONLINE (12/16/2014) [-]
Welcome to /guns/ friend! It seems that you have accidentally clicked on the wrong board in the menu. Perhaps try /videogames/ or /autism/. If you want to talk about firearms in the future, feel free to come back!
User avatar #10547 to #10546 - thesoulless (12/16/2014) [-]
What, are you Roliga or something?
User avatar #10548 to #10547 - weaponexplain ONLINE (12/16/2014) [-]
How does not wanting airsoft discussed here make me roliga? If you've actually ever been on this board, I've told people to take airshit somewhere else.
#10561 to #10548 - youregaylol (12/16/2014) [-]
to be fair you did copy and paste that comment from roliga
User avatar #10570 to #10561 - roliga (12/16/2014) [-]
I copied it from him
User avatar #10566 to #10561 - weaponexplain ONLINE (12/16/2014) [-]
What are you talking about. I wrote that originally. Roliga's copied me on several occasions. Lurk more.
#10581 to #10566 - youregaylol (12/16/2014) [-]
what came first, the chicken or the egg

the world may never know
User avatar #10583 to #10581 - weaponexplain ONLINE (12/16/2014) [-]
Nigger what are you talking about?
#10584 to #10583 - youregaylol (12/16/2014) [-]
if an ak fires in the forest with no one around to hear it, does it kill peasants?
User avatar #10557 to #10548 - sineztro (12/16/2014) [-]
Is paintball sorta allowed?
User avatar #10611 to #10557 - thewulfman (12/17/2014) [-]
Simple way to find out if /guns/ wants to talk about it.

Is it possible to kill someone with it? A firearm, a knife, missiles, military hardware, etc. Go crazy.

Is it not practical to kill someone with it because it was not its intended purpose? Airshit, paintball, lazer tag, etc, no.
User avatar #10615 to #10611 - sineztro (12/17/2014) [-]
I see, Because once I loaded marbles into a paintball gun and I wanted to see if we could start a lethal<- non lethal thread i.e. converting osmething nonlethal like paintball guns into something that is, such as my marbel shooter
User avatar #10617 to #10615 - thewulfman (12/18/2014) [-]
weaponexplain

Is this viable as a topic for /guns/?
User avatar #10619 to #10617 - weaponexplain ONLINE (12/18/2014) [-]
I'm not an official moderator so my view doesn't mean anything. But sure, as long as its an actual discussion that relates to firearms and isn't just a circlejerk about airsoft and paintball. I mean you wouldn't go to /cars/ and post about RC toys.
User avatar #10624 to #10619 - thewulfman (12/18/2014) [-]
>implying you and roliga aren't the masters of what gets talked about in /guns/

I remember when roliga used to be a moderator, then he did the thing too often and got his powers revoked. Good times, good times.

I guess shooting marbles out of a paintball gun for the purpose of making it lethal is kinda neat. At that point though it's honestly just a case of, why not buy a real fucking firearm?
User avatar #10632 to #10624 - weaponexplain ONLINE (12/18/2014) [-]
What did he do? I wasn't around then.
#10636 to #10632 - thewulfman (12/18/2014) [-]
Near as I can tell he used his mod powers at times he shouldn't have (e.g. deleting non-flaggable material). He'll probably correct me, but I'm pretty sure he did it to Kill la Kill gifs that were suggestive but not NSFW www.funnyjunk.com/hating/249328#249328 . I know it was back in April that he last had powers.
User avatar #10626 to #10624 - weaponexplain ONLINE (12/18/2014) [-]
My neighbors got mad at me one time because I built a potato cannon that shot potatoes into our retention pond at mach 7.
User avatar #10635 to #10626 - thewulfman (12/18/2014) [-]
>potato cannon
>pissing off neighbors
>mach 7

Nice. Guessing it was some form of air cannon? I somehow doubt a potato would handle a chemical propellant very well. Also your neighbors are douches, having a neighbor would built cool shit like that would be the coolest neighbor.
User avatar #10567 to #10557 - weaponexplain ONLINE (12/16/2014) [-]
No
#10541 - mexicandudeinsd (12/16/2014) [-]
so decided taking off the screws and then screwing in the rail was too much work, and i couldnt find a flat screwdriver so i had to duct tape it
the struggle is real
User avatar #10543 to #10541 - mexicandudeinsd (12/16/2014) [-]
ok cereal stuff here, good scopes and mounts for a 10/22 for a budget of around $15-30
nothing too serious, just to get some zoom at targets
User avatar #10545 to #10543 - weaponexplain ONLINE (12/16/2014) [-]
Go to BSA Optics
User avatar #10551 to #10545 - mexicandudeinsd (12/16/2014) [-]
www.bsaoptics.com/scope.aspx?productID=260
i found this, i still dont understand what it means
User avatar #10555 to #10551 - weaponexplain ONLINE (12/16/2014) [-]
What don't you understand? Also I have a BSA on my Marlin 60 and I can hit a squirrel at 50 yards every time. They aren't the best scopes, but they get the job done.
User avatar #10572 to #10555 - mexicandudeinsd (12/16/2014) [-]
the numbers mason! what do they mean !?
i forgot what the zoom mean or something about the light it lets in idk
how do i choose a scope?
#10513 - logickid (12/16/2014) [-]
Anybody got any idea what animal this is? (Seriously, no jokes.)   
 inb4 it's a meme
Anybody got any idea what animal this is? (Seriously, no jokes.)
inb4 it's a meme
#10540 to #10513 - gibroner (12/16/2014) [-]
I think it's an elephant shrew also why did you choose this board to ask
User avatar #10582 to #10540 - logickid (12/16/2014) [-]
because there's people with guns who hunt animals, and this is /guns/ so
#10539 to #10513 - youregaylol (12/16/2014) [-]
looks like Nënat tuaja coftinë
User avatar #10532 to #10513 - weaponexplain ONLINE (12/16/2014) [-]
> /autism/
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#10512 - sonicsyndicate has deleted their comment [-]
User avatar #10559 to #10512 - bitchitroll (12/16/2014) [-]
so you are a faggot that tied a knife to a shitty .22 pistol, put it to your head for attention, and posted a video. you being retarded is supposed to bother me why?
User avatar #10579 to #10559 - sonicsyndicate ONLINE (12/16/2014) [-]
gettin tired of notifications so im deleting have a nice week bro
User avatar #10577 to #10559 - sonicsyndicate ONLINE (12/16/2014) [-]
its a 32 and i was just trying to piss people off lmao its working
User avatar #10530 to #10512 - weaponexplain ONLINE (12/16/2014) [-]
What a surprise, you look like a faggot. Also what youregaylol said.
User avatar #10533 to #10530 - sonicsyndicate ONLINE (12/16/2014) [-]
everyones so pissed im lovin it
User avatar #10535 to #10533 - weaponexplain ONLINE (12/16/2014) [-]
You do what you want I can't stop you. But you can't stop me from judging you.
User avatar #10536 to #10535 - sonicsyndicate ONLINE (12/16/2014) [-]
judge me i dont mind it if anything it makes it funnier
User avatar #10537 to #10536 - weaponexplain ONLINE (12/16/2014) [-]
In that case I hope you follow your dreams and succeed and live a happy life. Faggot.
User avatar #10538 to #10537 - sonicsyndicate ONLINE (12/16/2014) [-]
And i hope you find a beauitful woman you wish you spend you life with and become a millionaire you fagmunch
User avatar #10575 to #10574 - sonicsyndicate ONLINE (12/16/2014) [-]
i love you you seriously are the best person
User avatar #10576 to #10575 - fagmunch (12/16/2014) [-]
ayy lmao
#10527 to #10512 - youregaylol (12/16/2014) [-]
>extra large mountain dew
>guns laying against walls
>food lying out in the open next to TV
>confederate flag
>shirtless
>bowl haircut
>nerd glasses

I think you're just living out your an hero fantasies
User avatar #10528 to #10527 - sonicsyndicate ONLINE (12/16/2014) [-]
lol not bowl cut it was milcut but im growing it out and that food sir is my dinner
#10529 to #10528 - youregaylol (12/16/2014) [-]
>yfw milcut

don't call me sir faggot
User avatar #10531 to #10529 - sonicsyndicate ONLINE (12/16/2014) [-]
no like nothing but a buzzcut my fingers were just closer to m i and l
ill call you a sir if i want to sir
User avatar #10525 to #10512 - roliga (12/16/2014) [-]
a bloo hoo hoo someone is doing something I dont like im a huge faggot please rape my face
User avatar #10526 to #10525 - sonicsyndicate ONLINE (12/16/2014) [-]
id like one order of rape my face please
User avatar #10514 to #10512 - logickid (12/16/2014) [-]
nigga u ded
User avatar #10515 to #10514 - sonicsyndicate ONLINE (12/16/2014) [-]
ill do it again if you like
#10517 to #10516 - sonicsyndicate ONLINE (12/16/2014) [-]
on a completely different note i made my own foregrip
it even comes equipped with a strobe light
#10519 to #10518 - sonicsyndicate ONLINE (12/16/2014) [-]
my pistol has a scope and a bayonet get on my lvl fggt
#10520 to #10519 - logickid (12/16/2014) [-]
HOW BOUT U 1v1 ME ON BF4 AGAINST MY KNIFE W/ BIPOD AND SCOPED M1911????????????????
HOW BOUT U 1v1 ME ON BF4 AGAINST MY KNIFE W/ BIPOD AND SCOPED M1911????????????????
#10521 to #10520 - sonicsyndicate ONLINE (12/16/2014) [-]
you cant even begin to fuk with me and my master key m8y
#10522 to #10521 - logickid (12/16/2014) [-]
LIFE HAS MANY DOORS ED BOY
#10523 to #10522 - sonicsyndicate ONLINE (12/16/2014) [-]
well then let me just get my super bow
#10612 to #10523 - thewulfman (12/17/2014) [-]
&gt;&gt;#10517, &gt;&gt;#10519, &gt;&gt;#10521,    
   
I'm absolutely losing it. 10/10
>>#10517, >>#10519, >>#10521,

I'm absolutely losing it. 10/10
#10505 - anonymous (12/15/2014) [-]
I wanted to ask this and I think his the right board to do it. I'm am interested in owning my first firearm. I don't have much experience firing guns, besides shooting .22s for my schools rifle team for 4 years. I want to know what would be a good suggestion for a first gun? I don't know what to get, I have been recommended everything from a Ruger Scout to a Glock 23. I was thinking something small and easy like a .22 rifle. I saw a nice Savage Mark II on sale a local gun store that I really liked. This would only be for target shooting and learning a little bit more about the basics of shooting and firearm care. Also, what is your opinion about buying used?
User avatar #10606 to #10505 - Zarke (12/17/2014) [-]
I have that Savage, and it works fine. It shoots better than I can (which admittedly isn't hard, but alas), and it's straight-forward in terms of disassembly and care.
User avatar #10511 to #10505 - weaponexplain ONLINE (12/15/2014) [-]
Get a good .22 rifle. Marlin 60, Ruger 10/22, etc. It sounds like you already have experience, so once you're ready move on from there.
User avatar #10508 to #10505 - subgunner (12/15/2014) [-]
buying used is not bad a all, just do your homework and look over the gun, I've bought quite a few gems cheaper used and in great condition. the savage mark 2 is a great 22 i have it and I've bagged a good number of squirrel and rabbit with it. she shoots very straight. my only gripe is i got a shitty stock on mine and she has gotten quite a bit of wear on her. get a good stock on it like synthetic or an aftermarket wood stock and you'll have yourself a very fine rifle.
User avatar #10506 to #10505 - mexicandudeinsd (12/15/2014) [-]
buying used is taking a risk either way, if you score a good firearm or learn down the road it would have been cheaper to buy new, check firearm before buying always

sure if you liked that savage get it, theres not a perfect first gun for everyone,
if you wanna start slow get ,22 no need to rush to bigger calibers if you dont feel like it.
or you could go with a scar mk17
User avatar #10490 - Izen (12/15/2014) [-]
So is anyone else scared that some crazy Jihadist fuck is gonna bomb one of the Garner/Ferguson rallies and then cause everything to completely fall to shit?
>Like.....then the military HAS to get involved
>Because terrorists attacked a protest
>Then the protestors get more angry because its more government action
>Shit gets crazier and crazier
>Until someone snaps and all hell breaks loose
>It's civil war
>Eventually the mexican gangs invade as the >Americans dwindle, then the canadians
>Mexico takes back everything from mexican/american war, as promised by Germany
>Canada takes back the original 13 colonies, as promised by England
>French take the Louisiana Purchase back
>And the Amerindians take the rest of the Country, as promise by the french
>And then the happy merchants take over the Middle East
>China falls to japan
>Russia falls to germany
>WWII finally ends
#10502 to #10490 - tomtomvdp (12/15/2014) [-]
Yeah and then Denzel Washington has to arrest Bruce Willis.
User avatar #10492 to #10490 - weaponexplain ONLINE (12/15/2014) [-]
The fuck? The government isn't allowed to deploy the military on domestic soil unless there's war on our soil. Only the National Guard can be used to keep the peace.
User avatar #10493 to #10492 - Izen (12/15/2014) [-]
>thinks NG isn't part of military
User avatar #10494 to #10493 - weaponexplain ONLINE (12/15/2014) [-]
I didn't say they weren't a part of the military. I meant the government can't deploy active duty Army, Air Force, Marines, etc. on domestic soil. The National Guard is a militia/reserve force whose main allegiance lies with their state. When not under federal command, the state's governor is the commander-in-chief of the local Guardsmen. Only in times of extreme emergencies can the President (and usually only with legislative consent) deploy National Guardsmen without the governor's permission.

I know its just a joke, but people should at least do research before making elaborate stories.
User avatar #10495 to #10494 - Izen (12/15/2014) [-]
well i mean i figure the dude meant that NG would be deployed
then from there, it would lead to extreme violence
leading to REAL military involvement (think LA riots but bigger)
User avatar #10496 to #10495 - weaponexplain ONLINE (12/15/2014) [-]
Large rioting still wouldn't allow the President to immediately deploy military. There's a whole set of laws, regulations, and stipulations but I'll summarize it. When something happens, it is the responsibility of local law enforcement to handle the situation. If the event carries on for an unreasonable length of time and/or increases in severity to the point that non-involved persons are being affected physically, mentally, legally, or deprived in any manor, it is up to the governor of the state to decide on further actions. It is very well within his power to call upon the National Guard from his state and ask neighboring governors for their Gaurdsmen to assist local law enforcement in handling the situation. If problems continue to go on, the governor can then ask for help from the President. The only times in which the President can bypass the governors and other legislative bodies is when extreme events have taken place and immediate action is required. This generally means a breakdown of society or local order to the point the life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness are in jeopardy. Even after the event has subsided, the President can be held responsible for any adverse actions by his involvement in state issues.
User avatar #10497 to #10496 - Izen (12/15/2014) [-]
You're also forgetting executive orders, which Barry loves so much

But still, which is why i said large scale riots such as the LA riots which lasted for 6 days, but on a national or near national level would lead to more than simply NG

I mean hell, look at the shit brought out during the G20 in Pittsburg a few years back
User avatar #10498 to #10497 - weaponexplain ONLINE (12/15/2014) [-]
Executive orders, while powerful, are still limited in power mainly by the legislative branch and state governments that are affected. If the president used the 72-hour rule for direct military action, he would only have 72 hours to carry out military operations without the consent of Congress. If he does not receive permission within 72 hours he must order a withdrawal of forces.

tl;dr Shit would have to get pretty serious for the President to do anything about a violent domestic issue without serious repercussions on his end.
User avatar #10499 to #10498 - Izen (12/15/2014) [-]
yeah but with him only having 2 years left
and the republicans running congress
Would it be that surprising if he went full hoo-ah on batshit near-civil-war shit?

okay yeah
still would be fun to see
User avatar #10491 to #10490 - Izen (12/15/2014) [-]
stolen for 4chin
#10487 - notred (12/15/2014) [-]
12 Gauge Suppressed The fucking cocking is louder than the firing.
User avatar #10489 to #10487 - Zarke (12/15/2014) [-]
Most camera mics are run through a compressor with a fairly long release envelope, which makes constant noise like speech consistently louder, but things with a high initial volume and a quieter trail (like gunshots) seem quieter. The peak amplitude might be the same, but speech stays closer to it longer, thus seeming louder.
User avatar #10488 to #10487 - weaponexplain ONLINE (12/15/2014) [-]
Most guns, especially unsuppressed, do not sound as loud in video as they do in real life. A microphone can only record sound up to a certain decibel level. If you've ever been to a range, ARs are loud as fuck. Go watch a youtube video of one without hearing protection and the volume on max, and you'll still be fine.
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