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#8 - adu
Reply -249
(09/23/2013) [-]
>Jokes written on teleprompters
>Doesn't take presidency seriously
>Continues to pump out executive orders, inflationary policy, ********* congress
>***** with Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, etc.

0/10 president, just as bad as robo-mormon.
#84 to #8 - kmichel
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(09/23/2013) [-]
How do you have so many thumbs down? Obama is one of the worst Presidents we've had for those reasons and more.
#98 to #84 - ivoryhammer
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(09/23/2013) [-]
Uhh, no. There's been plenty worse presidents than Obama, the one from 2000-2008 for instance.
#137 to #98 - adu
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(09/24/2013) [-]
"Not as bad" mentality is called defeatism. It's also why bipartisan politics is destined to violate human rights, because everyone is looking for the lesser evil rather than a completely different alternative.
#109 to #98 - ohemgeezus ONLINE
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(09/23/2013) [-]
so bad that we dont even speak his name.
#28 to #8 - lordraine ONLINE
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(09/23/2013) [-]
I don't know why you're getting so many red thumbs. There are only about five people on this site that are old enough to have voter's remorse.
#29 to #28 - turtletroll
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(09/23/2013) [-]
Well you have to understand that he did come into office at a very bad time. Very few presidents could of brought America out of the **** hole it`s in at the moment.

Not saying Obama is greytest prezidunt eva. Just saying it can`t of been easy.
#128 to #29 - mylazy
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(09/23/2013) [-]
I agree with you, Obama isn't a bad president. There have certainly been worse presidents. But he certainly has not been the best. Two things and another completely unrelated thing:

Very few is a complete overstatement. It is a thing called the business cycle. We would have gotten out of it with any president. It was merely a matter of the time it took to do so. He got us out of it quicker than many would, but slower than a lot of others would have.

Second thing is that we are still in a ****** position. Not so much because of the economy, though that isn't great. It is better here than a lot of other countries economically, but it is far from our best time. The debt is also killing us. We have no choice but to raise the debt ceiling, but we can't afford to do that. Don't even try to start stating studies that say all the debt comes from other people, because we all know that isn't true. Obama has contributed just as much as anyone. He isn't the sole factor obviously, but he hasn't helped the situation at all.

What we need is someone who can convince the republicans to compromise and is also willing to compromise themselves. A lot of the democrats compromises can't even really be called compromises because of how uncompromising they were. But the republicans seem to not even want to try. It's their way or the highway. I hope that both sides can be convinced to actually meet in the middle rather than making it their goal to pass the blame off instead of fix the problem.

Apologies for the long post. Not even sure myself why I made it so long.
#50 to #29 - anon
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(09/23/2013) [-]
Out of the ******** it was in? The absolute lowest unemployment rates under obama don't even surpass the highest under bush, and that's with him cherry picking the data not counting people who have completely given up looking for work.
#57 to #50 - turtletroll
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(09/23/2013) [-]
Well when a recession happens its effects aren`t instant. Just because a country goes into a recession that doesn`t mean that thousands upon thousands lose their jobs instantly. It means that the economy is on the downturn and that there leads to companies and other employers having to make redundancies or go out of business which then leads to the unemployment levels rising.
#30 to #29 - lordraine ONLINE
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(09/23/2013) [-]
No president has had it easy. There's always something going wrong. That's hardly an excuse.
#31 to #30 - turtletroll
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(09/23/2013) [-]
I mean he took over a massive debt and a un winnable war.

Not every president has those problems especially in such a big way.
#54 to #8 - thegamegestapo
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(09/23/2013) [-]
He's actually made a fair point
He's actually made a fair point
#32 to #8 - anon
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(09/23/2013) [-]
Do you even politics feggit?
#41 to #8 - zombielovez
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(09/23/2013) [-]
you certainly do like the red thumbs there don't cha jimbo?
random pic
#65 to #8 - sabcy
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(09/23/2013) [-]
...... Robor Mormon?
#134 to #8 - mormon
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(09/24/2013) [-]
Is this supposed to be funny?
#33 to #8 - hopskotch
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(09/23/2013) [-]
Ronald Reagan joked all the time, regarded as the funniest president thus far, and he was one of the best presidents the US has had.
#37 to #33 - ohemgeezus ONLINE
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(09/23/2013) [-]
Too be fair, Reagan was an actor and very good friends with don rickles and frank sinatra so he was known to be a funny guy, obama was just a lawyer.


That said there's never been a rule that says presidents need to be 100% super serious at all times.
#56 to #8 - gerfox
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(09/23/2013) [-]
i think Obama is best president
he stands up to Syria and doesn't afraid of anything
#92 to #8 - Skootsy
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(09/23/2013) [-]
hey he's doing pretty good for a black guy
#91 to #8 - HarvietheDinkle
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(09/23/2013) [-]
You'd do better?

Seriously. I hate it when people criticize the President. There are inevitably tons of factors no one but him knows about, and no one knows the pressure of a President.

I'm not talking about just Obama. I'm talking about every President.

Unless you've been in their shoes, your criticisms seem like immature whines coming from people who don't actually know the viewpoints of the people you criticize.
#126 to #91 - mylazy
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(09/23/2013) [-]
Not saying I would do better, but it is incredibly stupid not to criticize the president. Or any official. If you just go with whatever they do, how will they know what policies the people want? For example. I am strongly opposed to the healthcare bill. Not because I am opposed to healthcare in america, but because I feel that healthcare is one of the issues where you can't really make a policy that is trying to meet halfway the way Obama is. You either need to socialize/make it universal or make it privatized. You can't try to come up with a compromise on that issue. It won't work. Obamacare for example, will destroy many small businesses, hurt many middle class families that won't qualify for the government help but won't be able to get the insurance themselves thus paying a fine, etc. But if it remained the way it was before people would get to choose whether to buy it and it wouldn't have that affect on the middle class. If it were universalized (is that a word?) then it would....well it would be like half the other countries in the world. Those policies have worked pretty well. But meeting in the middle won't work.
#131 to #126 - HarvietheDinkle
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(09/24/2013) [-]
I'm not saying that criticism is bad.

Let's not get into an argument about Obamacare; I don't think I know enough about it and don't trust a stranger on the internet as being a credible source. I do think that universal, optional, affordable healthcare is a good idea; but Obamacare is implementing it poorly (that's all I really know).

Anyway, criticism is fine. Just the kind that adu displayed - criticism without explanation; just emotion - is the kind that riles me up.

And, I must insist, there is always that small (small) chance that the President's information that only he/a few other people know makes a crucial difference. Here's an unrealistic example: Drone strikes all over syria would seem bad, but not if it turned out that that was somehow a wa of preventing a worse catastrophe of a much much bigger magnitude (I can't think of anything right now, but picture extinction of the human race). Would the Prez tell the polulace about this threat? Probably not, to avoid panic.
#136 to #131 - adu
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(09/24/2013) [-]
I make useless comments on the internet, I'm not a political commentator. If people don't know why Obama is a terrible president by now then they're deliberately avoiding information in the first place. And to the point of the president knowing better than us is not an excuse for abandoning the concept of a transparent administration. Obama lies out of his ass and signs executive orders like it's his job, probably because it IS his job.

"Let me be clear. If you like your healthcare plan, you will be able to keep your healthcare plan. Period."
-Barack Obama
#140 to #136 - HarvietheDinkle
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(09/24/2013) [-]
I know tons of people who have enough information, and they come to different opinions than you.

A lot of these conclusions are value-based.
#142 to #140 - adu
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(09/25/2013) [-]
Doesn't matter. A leader who is dishonest about his intentions and outcomes of his policies is not worthy of a democratic election. Appeal to authority doesn't justify it, and I know tons of people with less publicized information that disapprove of him as a president, and disapprove of the presidency in general.
#143 to #142 - HarvietheDinkle
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(09/25/2013) [-]
Sorry, but I'm going to have to get technical here.

"Not worthy" = opinion based.
"Doesn't justify" = opinion based.

Most of the facts out there are simply that-facts. Whether or not someone is a bad leader (especially since you don't have the same intel. as him - see my comment #131) is judgement based.
#145 to #143 - adu
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(09/25/2013) [-]
I never said that it wasn't, but that doesn't bother me. Understand that I believe in a world of no logically consistent objectivity, only qualia and inductive inference.
#132 to #131 - mylazy
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(09/24/2013) [-]
Well, you are right about Adu. He paid for his criticism.
#135 to #132 - adu
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(09/24/2013) [-]
Actually, red thumbs are free.
#138 to #91 - adu
Reply 0
(09/24/2013) [-]
You'll never have a viewpoint besides your own. To think otherwise is a projection fallacy. Following from this, your logic says unconditionally that all criticism is immature whining. So what does that make your criticism of my criticism?
#141 to #138 - HarvietheDinkle
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(09/24/2013) [-]
You can get close to knowing someone else's viewpoint by asking them directly, and viewing unbiased sources. Most people don't do that, though.

In the end, I do believe that there is no such thing as criticism that is 100% founded.
#144 to #141 - adu
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(09/25/2013) [-]
Unbiased is a concept that doesn't exist in reality. All someone can do to is recognize their bias and attempt to counterbalance it. Just as there are no criticisms that are 100% founded (all observations made short of omniscience) there are also no criticisms that are 100% unfounded. Even gibberish has some merit if it sparks constructive introspection. Problem is that the most legitimate criticisms are always drowned out in bipartisan politics. If you're in favor of A, proponents of B will criticize you, and if you're in favor of B, supporters or A will criticize you. But if you're in favor of something that isn't A or B, then the system doesn't allow for your criticism to be taken seriously.

I'm personally against the presidency as an institution, or at the very least, what the institution has become. The first 20 U.S. presidents have signed a total of 585 executive orders. The last 4 Presidents, being Bush Sr., Clinton, Bush Jr., and Obama, have signed a total of 978 executive orders (so far). The checks and balances to limit the power of the King of the United States, voted in by those supportive of parties, not people, were always weak, but have been continually abused since the 20th century.

Maybe my comparison of the president to a king is a bit unfair. As a leader a king would at least have an interest in the long-term health of his nation. A President only operates in a time-span of 4 to 8 years and gets $450,000 for life just for being elected.
#146 to #144 - HarvietheDinkle
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(09/25/2013) [-]
Sorry. As close to unbiased as you can find. Even if you don't know the bias of sources, you can get info. from multiple, disparate sources (although that would take a while).

I'm in no way saying that the presidency itself is the best form of government; your idea is interesting. However, what I am saying is that when people criticize, they seem to have such confidence in their beliefs that I can't take them as legitimate sources; complete certainty is a rare thing.

But go on, though. What form of government do you think would be better? It's always intriguing to hear new ideas.
#147 to #146 - adu
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(09/25/2013) [-]
Not a single form of government, but multiple peacefully competing communities. If governments operate more like businesses, where they could potentially lose customers if they handle things more poorly than one of their competitors, then it would at least make them accountable for their mistakes. In a world where changing nationality can take months or years, governments operate with a captive audience, with the cost of leaving being greater than the risk of staying. When an individual makes a mistake, they end up paying for it. When the government makes a mistake, they end up paying for that as well, either effects of inflation, unemployment, imprisonment, or taxation, which is legislated extortion by force. Any voluntary system would be a better one, and if governments had voluntary participation, they would either be forced to truly keep the interest of the citizen in mind, or starve. The age of post-imperialism is less about trying to acquire new things, and more about trying to keep locked up what has already been taken by force.

Here are two interesting videos to consider.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGMQZEIXBMs
And www.youtube.com/watch?v=fasTSY-dB-s which is the follow-up.
#19 to #8 - rassamdul
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(09/23/2013) [-]
#77 to #8 - ohiowildman
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(09/23/2013) [-]
I hate the ************ too, but its fine to crack a joke every once in a while.
#44 to #8 - yowhatsup
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(09/23/2013) [-]
>it's inhumane for a president to make a joke once in a while   
   
your logic
>it's inhumane for a president to make a joke once in a while

your logic
#14 to #8 - lokiwins
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(09/23/2013) [-]
Pretty sure troops were in Afghanistan before he came into office.
#81 to #14 - yeorey
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(09/23/2013) [-]
>still blaming the guy from the last regime that no longer has involvement
>disregard the fact Obomba is a bigger war monger
>mfw
#9 to #8 - willysbilly ONLINE
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(09/23/2013) [-]
you do know that every president is supposed to make jokes at the white house correspondents dinner?
#139 to #9 - adu
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(09/24/2013) [-]
250 red thumbs later.
250 red thumbs later.
#22 to #9 - anon
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(09/23/2013) [-]
"MAKE" jokes is the key word there.
#39 to #22 - pwnmissilereborn **User deleted account**
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(09/23/2013) [-]
"What?" is the key word here.
#106 to #22 - crazyhindu
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(09/23/2013) [-]
oh yeah people don't write down jokes ahead of time....
#3 - werdiscool
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(09/22/2013) [-]
#103 to #3 - raheem
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(09/23/2013) [-]
LMFAO!!!1111!!!! xD!!!! +1 Favourite 4 u
#17 - pappathethird
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(09/23/2013) [-]
Obabo can be pretty funny
#66 to #17 - sabcy
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(09/23/2013) [-]
eh, could be worse
<me shrugging
#45 to #17 - crosskill
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(09/23/2013) [-]
> "Obabo"
#58 to #45 - neznanc **User deleted account**
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(09/23/2013) [-]
yes, obabo
#125 to #58 - tayyderp
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(09/23/2013) [-]
Oh yes, Obabo.
#21 to #17 - madethisforalink
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(09/23/2013) [-]
I prefer his second book, "The Audacity of This ******: Seriously, Who The **** Does He Think He is"
#7 - swordmasterredman ONLINE
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(09/23/2013) [-]
Video link for you people www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8TwRmX6zs4
#87 to #7 - doublicious
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(09/23/2013) [-]
"Omg i though tumblr was trolling" - Top comment
Holy ******* ****
#96 to #7 - illusiveshade **User deleted account**
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(09/23/2013) [-]
This should have more thumbs!
#10 to #7 - psykobear
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(09/23/2013) [-]
He ***** with Donald Trump sooo hard in that video.
#72 - diegotan
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(09/23/2013) [-]
#1 - iamnuff
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(09/22/2013) [-]
I love the way he singles out Fox
#60 to #1 - spermanentthreat
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(09/23/2013) [-]
'When The Simpsons can make fun off Fox, why can't the President' he thought

#79 - higitusfigitus
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(09/23/2013) [-]
All hail Obabo.
#117 to #79 - poncakeforlife
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(09/23/2013) [-]
#129 to #117 - higitusfigitus
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(09/23/2013) [-]
Death to Osaso.
#97 - anon
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(09/23/2013) [-]
Typical Americans, voted for someone for his theatrics.
#107 to #97 - andrewzb
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(09/23/2013) [-]
are you serious?
#100 to #97 - bokkos
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(09/23/2013) [-]
How do you deal with all your fedora sweat?
#105 to #100 - draeman
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(09/23/2013) [-]
lol.
#111 - zorororonoa
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(09/23/2013) [-]
#114 to #111 - mcdaddydacaddy
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(09/23/2013) [-]
lmmaaooo bro do you have the one where hes talking about maria
#115 to #114 - zorororonoa
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(09/23/2013) [-]
no but I have this one
#116 to #115 - mcdaddydacaddy
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(09/23/2013) [-]
found it
#124 to #116 - shadew
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(09/23/2013) [-]
For all three of these.
For all three of these.
#71 - arreatface
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(09/23/2013) [-]
Jokes on national TV ?
#76 to #71 - okamiterasu ONLINE
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(09/23/2013) [-]
But you still didn't build that.