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I Anonymous (( Mon) 16: 17 No. 20266911
So, a farmer' s powerlevel is only 5.
Does that mean my powerlevel is around 20?
Because I think I could beat 4 farmers. Easily.
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#5 - citruslord (09/21/2013) [-]
Actually, in the beginning of the Dragon Ball series, Goku has a power level of 10 and deflects a bullet with his face. So it's pretty safe to say that no person in reported history has exceeded this.
Actually, in the beginning of the Dragon Ball series, Goku has a power level of 10 and deflects a bullet with his face. So it's pretty safe to say that no person in reported history has exceeded this.
#89 to #5 - pedotoucher (09/21/2013) [-]
We can sure as hell try.
User avatar #18 to #5 - rhiaanor ONLINE (09/21/2013) [-]
well, if you think about it, that is TWICE the strength of a farmer, which probably works all day and is pretty strong himself, so if you think about it, that could be correct.
#36 to #5 - liamdurf ONLINE (09/21/2013) [-]
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User avatar #35 to #5 - ihatecarltonbanks (09/21/2013) [-]
i think toughness and strength are completely seperate
User avatar #52 to #5 - zanekin (09/21/2013) [-]
So if the farmer was half of that he was pretty ******* strong
User avatar #63 to #5 - IamSofaKingdom (09/21/2013) [-]
The creator wanted power levels to be ridiculous on purpose anyway. Also Goku is an alien. I am sure his resistance of bullets is helped along by that since Krillin was well above 10 when dodging bullets for dear life in the Worlds Strongest movie.
User avatar #91 to #63 - destroyerofcheese (09/21/2013) [-]
Well, Krillin has taken clips of ammo before. So did Roshi. So I'm sure it just hurts like a bitch. ►DragonBall Z - Bulma Fixed Raditz's Scouter!◄
#24 to #5 - anon (09/21/2013) [-]
I get the feeling that the ability to deflect bullets is as a result of his being Saiyan, at that point.
It was pretty clear that others had amazingly high power levels on Earth.
In the Red Ribbon Army saga, people (the ones watching Goku kick ass) flipped their **** about him being able to deflect bullets. The leader had a high power level, higher than a Farmer.

Forgive me if my logic isn't quite sound, I'm only recently watching DBZ for basically the first time. I watched Dragonball up to the later half of the Red Ribbon Army Saga, then moved ahead to DBZ because people often spoke of it more.
User avatar #26 to #24 - Relinies ONLINE (09/21/2013) [-]
**** , I didn't log in.
Please respond to this comment, not the anon comment, so I can know what you say
User avatar #30 to #26 - citruslord (09/21/2013) [-]
Well, right when he started training with Roshi, there was Krillin with him, and both them and Roshi are shown taking machine-gun fire from launch pretty early on, so it's not quite a Saiyan thing. It's hard to say because as far as I can remember, no-one who ever encounters Goku and is able to stand up to him takes damage from gunfire. It might be a conditioning thing, it hurts others so it would hurt me kinda thing.
User avatar #31 to #30 - Relinies ONLINE (09/21/2013) [-]
Oh, I forgot about the Launch thing.
Carry on then, that basically proves the point you were making.
User avatar #69 to #5 - thesinful (09/21/2013) [-]
He also had an axe broken on his skull. It hurt like **** but still, he shattered an axe with his ******* skull
User avatar #10 to #5 - captainfuckitall (09/21/2013) [-]
I saw Jackie Chan catch a bullet with his teeth in a movie once
#1 - pappysmurf (09/21/2013) [-]
Im confused... how many farmers is a Yamcha?  And whats a Krillin?
Im confused... how many farmers is a Yamcha? And whats a Krillin?
User avatar #3 to #1 - bitchitroll ONLINE (09/21/2013) [-]
yamcha im guessing about 5. and krillin would be around 2
User avatar #6 to #3 - gameboyadvance (09/21/2013) [-]
ii hope you mean kid krillin. Present krillin can destroy frieza.
#8 to #3 - spacemasterfive (09/21/2013) [-]
yamcha is like 1/1000 krillen
User avatar #21 to #8 - bitchitroll ONLINE (09/21/2013) [-]
i believe yamcha had some hidden potential he never showed
#32 to #21 - drkai ONLINE (09/21/2013) [-]
Aw yisss.
User avatar #22 to #21 - toosexyforyou (09/21/2013) [-]
based on what grounds?
User avatar #25 to #22 - bitchitroll ONLINE (09/21/2013) [-]
im not sure. he just seemed like he was capable of so much more and just wasnt willing to do anything to show it.
User avatar #27 to #25 - toosexyforyou (09/21/2013) [-]
Krillin was much stronger than him based on the show.
#28 to #21 - jimmytwoshoes (09/21/2013) [-]
yamcha is worthless and has no purpose in life
User avatar #9 to #1 - wliia (09/21/2013) [-]
Yamcha has a power level of 177 at the start of dbz.
#133 to #9 - bluefummer (07/17/2014) [-]
wliia
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#48 to #1 - anon (09/21/2013) [-]
Remember when Yamcha was one of the strongest characters in the show? Pepperidge Farm Remembers.
User avatar #4 to #1 - shadir (09/21/2013) [-]
1 farmer is 5 Yamchas
User avatar #53 to #4 - noblekira (09/21/2013) [-]
Question, does this mean 1 farmer is now a valid measurement of power, that sounds ******* cool
User avatar #54 to #53 - shadir (09/21/2013) [-]
Of course, 1 yamcha is a measurement of power too
User avatar #55 to #54 - noblekira (09/21/2013) [-]
i consider that a measurement of weakness
#59 to #55 - tanabata ONLINE (09/21/2013) [-]
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User avatar #93 to #4 - mrnotsosafeforwork (09/22/2013) [-]
What? Over 9000 Yamchas? This thing must be broken!
#70 to #4 - anon (09/21/2013) [-]
This comment is funnier than the content. You made my day, thank you.
#15 - waitiknowthisone (09/21/2013) [-]
oh god, what if power levels were logarithmic instead of linear?
#88 to #15 - xatrainx (09/21/2013) [-]
actually, you can derive the scaling using the gravitational binding energy of various bodies.

In other words, the energy required to blow **** , most saliently the earth, moon, and sun, right the hell up. Using the formula U = 3GM^2/(5r), we can derive the energy required to blow up some of the things in DBZ and then match them to their respective power levels.

U(moon)=1.24e29 joules
U(earth)= 2.24e32 joules
U(sun)= 6.87e41 joules

With these, we can pair them to the power levels of:
Roshi's moon-busting Kamehameha - 350 (or 180, depending on the source)
Vegeta's earth-busting galick gun - 18000
Cell's sun-busting power level - 300,000,000

putting the paired numbers into a quadratic function generator, you'd get roughly:
7.6e+24 X²--1.25e+29 X

Due to the lack of good curve-fitters online, it's difficult to find out -- albeit very likely -- that it could be a higher order function. for example, this function will throw back a massive negative number for a power level of one. However, it's certain that it is in fact an exponential function.
#131 to #88 - waitiknowthisone (09/27/2013) [-]
damn dude that's sweet, I respect the work that went into crafting that comment
User avatar #19 to #15 - kanpai (09/21/2013) [-]
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE WORDS MEAN!
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User avatar #50 to #39 - alucardthemagician (09/21/2013) [-]
Doesn't that mean that extreme measurements aren't relative.
Like idk.
if that were true "over 9000" is so non-specific that they could be literally the most powerful person in the universe.
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#87 to #58 - divinecreator (09/21/2013) [-]
quit doing math outside of work thats how you turn into a math teacher
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User avatar #132 to #96 - alucardthemagician (09/27/2013) [-]
You've entered a strange zone.

THE MATHLIGHT ZONE
#81 to #58 - mausisdead (09/21/2013) [-]
wow   
such math   
so numbers
wow
such math
so numbers
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User avatar #2 - themalherbes (09/21/2013) [-]
I believe the powerlevel is for the gun
#68 - obeyweegee (09/21/2013) [-]
A farmer with a gun's power level is 5. So, your's would probably be less than one.
User avatar #71 to #68 - orkanoidz ONLINE (09/21/2013) [-]
So theoretically, if we were to get the entire USA and Russian army in a wall formation we would have enough fire power to kill several hundred saiyans?
User avatar #74 to #71 - obeyweegee (09/21/2013) [-]
In theory yes, but in practice, probably not. The problem is that bullets and shells do pretty much nothing to Saiyans. So, it doesn't matter how many you shoot at them. Look at it this way, the combined power of a hundred BBs would be more than sufficient to kill you. However, getting shot by one at a time wouldn't. Sorry for taking a long time to reply. I had to really think up a good response and revise it several times.
User avatar #77 to #74 - orkanoidz ONLINE (09/21/2013) [-]
You do realize i'm talking about a wall of infantry and tanks firing well over one billion rounds of combined tank and arms per second fire right? Just a massive phalanx of the Russian and US military.
User avatar #80 to #77 - obeyweegee (09/21/2013) [-]
Yeah, I know. The BBs were just an example on a smaller scale.
User avatar #82 to #80 - orkanoidz ONLINE (09/21/2013) [-]
So take the larger scale and watch the superiority of the human race.

User avatar #75 to #74 - obeyweegee (09/21/2013) [-]
Although, if you put nuclear warheads in the equation...
User avatar #78 to #75 - orkanoidz ONLINE (09/21/2013) [-]
Hence the Russian and US military...

Tsar bomba master race...
User avatar #83 to #78 - obeyweegee (09/21/2013) [-]
In that case, yes. There's pretty much no material in the universe strong enough to withstand nuclear fusion/fission of that size. There's a reason why there are no nukes in DBZ.
User avatar #84 to #83 - orkanoidz ONLINE (09/21/2013) [-]
Human's will always succeed the supra and supernatural. Mind over matter.

Science...
User avatar #85 to #84 - obeyweegee (09/21/2013) [-]
I agree. It was nice talking with you.
User avatar #90 to #68 - warioteam (09/21/2013) [-]
does the scouter register equipment
User avatar #101 to #90 - obeyweegee (09/22/2013) [-]
I think so. It registered the power level of the farmer and his gun.
#29 - lolikikolik (09/21/2013) [-]
I love, how everybody here is making fun Krillin and Yamcha,.... have you even saw original Dragon Ball series ?
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#79 - poulzen (09/21/2013) [-]
"It must have been made of something weak like pap mache, or Raditz"
User avatar #51 - UberAndrew (09/21/2013) [-]
Power levels in Dragon Ball are complete ******** . They fluctuate constantly and mean nothing.

If a character has a low power level you can almost be sure he'll be one of the strongest characters on the show.
User avatar #7 - mylazy (09/21/2013) [-]
www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1075085-Who-wins-the-fight-Super-man-or-Son-Goku!/page2

It goes into the power level thing in this argument. You can ignore the fact that it is about superman vs goku and just read the powerlevel part if you want.
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#41 to #40 - ecomp (09/21/2013) [-]
Power levels mean nothing, especially when you can sneeze away a solar system.
User avatar #72 to #41 - atrocitustheking (09/21/2013) [-]
******* damn, Supes.
User avatar #61 to #41 - mylazy (09/21/2013) [-]
I put that up to explain the power levels. That aside they are pretty useless. For the arguments that actually mean anything, that link doesn't actually use the power levels. It uses examples of things that happened in the series. And I believe it successfully shows goku outclassing superman as early as SSJ2 and certainly by SSJ4. I don't know what would happen if the SSJ God came into play, since i haven't watched the new movie.
User avatar #94 to #61 - ecomp (09/22/2013) [-]
DEATH BATTLE! - Goku VS Superman
Yeah, but they used no examples of things that happened in Superman's world. For example, he sneezed away a solar system. And they actually do use power levels as an argument, saying that goku is however many times better than krillin or whatever, which means he's better. Take a look at this, it takes in the max of everything possible used in Dragon Ball, and only scratches the surface of what superman can do, even omitting the solar-sneeze. Superman >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Goku.
User avatar #100 to #94 - mylazy (09/22/2013) [-]
I don't think the word power level is used at all in that.
User avatar #99 to #94 - mylazy (09/22/2013) [-]
Now to cover speed, this is a fun one. On foot Superman cannot reach lightspeed. The Flash was shown to be faster than Superman in a footrace, as mentioned above. If the Flash ever reaches lightspeed he joins with the speedforce, which he clearly didn't in that race. So he didn't need to even reach lightspeed to beat Superman. Superman appears to be able to fly faster than lightspeed though, as traversing our solar system in a few minutes would require a little more than lightspeed, since the distance from the Earth to the Sun is 7 light minutes.

How fast is Goku though? Well, there's only two good events that you can use to measure speed in DBZ. One is the kamehameha wave from Cooler's Revenge. In about 10 seconds, Goku's kamehameha wave reached from the Earth to the Sun, making it about 50 times faster than the speed of light. Therefore, anyone that can dodge SS1 Goku's kamehameha wave, or even see it, has to be at least 50 times faster than the speed of light. Why is seeing it important? In DBZ, there are many times that the characters move faster than other characters can see. So basically, any villain post SS1 that can keep up with Goku can move at least 50 times faster than lightspeed.

The other case is a little more extreme though. When Vegeta uses The Final Flash against Cell. It's clearly shown that his blast leaves our solar system and explodes on a far away planet/star. The closest planet to our solar system is 10.5 lightyears away. That's 31556926 light seconds. It got there in only 20 seconds, therefore The Final Flash moves at least 1577846.3 times faster than lightspeed. And that was just ascended Super Saiyan Vegeta. Keep in mind perfect Cell saw this attack coming, yet is unable to see SS2 Gohan's movements. And SS3 Goku is obviously far stronger and faster. I don't think Goku would even need to transform to beat Pre Crisis Superman. He could likely kill him with a single finger. To put another nail in the coffin though.
User avatar #103 to #99 - ecomp (09/22/2013) [-]
Superman flew to the sun and back while being timed, and also while fighting WonderWoman, which shows a speed of 31 times the speed of light, and according to batman, he can fly at 17 billion km/h, which is 57 times the speed of light.

His calculations are kind of retarded though, since the anime uses a **** tonne of cinematic time to shorten the episodes, where in the manga it would take much longer. Those calculations are invalid.
User avatar #107 to #103 - mylazy (09/22/2013) [-]
Really? You are arguing that they shorten the time in DBZ. They slow everything down (which would make it take longer). If anything those blasts moved faster than that.
User avatar #109 to #107 - ecomp (09/22/2013) [-]
They do. Have you even read the manga?
User avatar #110 to #109 - mylazy (09/22/2013) [-]
I don't like to read manga. If I am going to read it will be a proper novel, like Ender's Game, Eragon, or some other thing. And I stand by my words.
User avatar #111 to #110 - ecomp (09/22/2013) [-]
Goku could at max lift 160 000 tonnes in SSJ4, whereas Superman has lifted the equivilent of 200 octillion megatonnes in a test chamber. Superman > Goku.
User avatar #113 to #111 - mylazy (09/22/2013) [-]
The logic in that was ******** as I already said.
User avatar #120 to #113 - ecomp (09/22/2013) [-]
Also, you haven't given any indication as to why they are that fast, other than being able to dodge blasts, which can be done by other methods, like predicting the strike times. You have no proof of how fast he is, and all of your examples are shortened sequences. 0/10 bad arguement.
User avatar #121 to #120 - mylazy (09/22/2013) [-]
I think Imma give up on you. You keep quoting arguments even worse than mine, and refuse to look at it any other way. This is taking up too much of my time and I have a few essays due tomorrow. Keep your belief, I will keep mine.
User avatar #124 to #121 - ecomp (09/22/2013) [-]
You have no proof that my arguements are flawed, you just keep jerking of goku like he's your abusive uncle. As soon as you prove that he's better, I'll agree with you, but you don't have ANY proof whatsoever.
User avatar #129 to #124 - mylazy (09/22/2013) [-]
I have shown my proof. I have stated why your strength argument is ******** . The speed argument is perfectly sound. Especially in the first case, maybe not in the second. And that is really all we have been debating is those to factors so...

By the way, this is my last response, regardless of what you say. I am tired of this.
User avatar #130 to #129 - ecomp (09/22/2013) [-]
No you haven't, and no it isn't. It only makes sense to you because you're blinded by nostalgia. Superman > Goku. Case closed.
User avatar #115 to #113 - ecomp (09/22/2013) [-]
No you haven't. You haven't given any indication as to WHY he's stronger, you just keep blabbering about "muh gokoo"
User avatar #118 to #115 - mylazy (09/22/2013) [-]
Let me say it this way. How much force do you think it would take to destroy a planet? Quite a bit I would say. Now to destroy a galaxy. Much more. Now a universe. The logic in the video was that you can only put out as much force as you can take correct? Well goku took attacks from people who could do those things. People who have proven they could do those things. As such it is logical to say that his strength would be much higher. I don't have any caclulations myself, because that is more work than it is worth to win an argument that has no worth. But it is obvious that it is much more than 160,000 tonnes.
User avatar #122 to #118 - ecomp (09/22/2013) [-]
Yeah, but those people destroyed those "universes" at their max potential, where as they can't use their max potential when continuously fighting.
User avatar #123 to #122 - mylazy (09/22/2013) [-]
Which is why it is important to note that that is at some of the weaker SSJ levels.
User avatar #125 to #123 - ecomp (09/22/2013) [-]
Which can then be multiplied by the Super Saijan formula, and it still doesn't come close to Superman.
User avatar #127 to #125 - mylazy (09/22/2013) [-]
You mean the formulas in the video you provided. Yeah those understated the increase in power immensely.
User avatar #128 to #127 - ecomp (09/22/2013) [-]
No they didn't. They got those sources from the creators of the show, not some fan made **** that jerks goku off. You lose, superman wins.
User avatar #98 to #94 - mylazy (09/22/2013) [-]
And at no point does it really use the power levels at an argument. It explains them and then ignores them completely. Here are the arguments it really uses, if you would actually read it.

"Broly destroys the entire South Galaxy in his movie. That's a rather misleading term though, and probably doesn't mean what you think it does. In real life, a galaxy is 50-100 billion planets. There are about 600 sextillion planets in the observable universe. The South Galaxy in DBZ is not a typical real life galaxy, it is one quarter of the universe. So assuming our universes are the same size, Broly destroyed about 150 sextillion planets in one blast. I believe it's been shown that at higher super saiyan forms, possibly as early as FPSS, Goku is stronger than Broly. As a super saiyan 3, Goku is certainly more powerful than Broly, and super saiyan 3s have been shown to be able to break the laws of reality. So it's likely that SS3 Goku could destroy the universe, maybe even reality itself."
User avatar #102 to #98 - ecomp (09/22/2013) [-]
This is all assumptions, and he uses those words frequently, and he also thinks that the real world and the DBZ world are one in the same, which they aren't. If you want to throw around accomplishments and feats, here's this, Superman Prime can just think away Goku. That's how powerful he gets in the later comics. He is about 99% god, and can do practically anything.
User avatar #104 to #102 - mylazy (09/22/2013) [-]
I don't see the word assume or assumption anywhere in the argument. And after reading up on superman prime, I am not at all convinced that he could defeat Goku. From what I am reading, Superman Prime would be able to match Goku. That would be a good fight. And as for the God thing, there is a reason why the movie for DBZ is called battle of the Gods. The only thing I am seeing there that Goku can't do is create a universe. I would bet though, that if Goku had existed in that universe, he would have achieved the same ability. It is simply that in Goku's universe their is only one universe. And Superman Prime wouldn't just be able to think him away. He only seems omnipotent, but he is not. I would still be willing to place a bet on Goku, though I am not as certain he would win against that form. Every other form, I just about guarantee Goku would win.
User avatar #106 to #104 - ecomp (09/22/2013) [-]
"So assuming our universes are the same..."
User avatar #112 to #106 - mylazy (09/22/2013) [-]
To fight they would have to be in the same universe.

And at no point does the guy whose arguments I am quoting say assume or assumption. I have said them maybe twice and in each case it was just my natural habit coming out. Neither one really requires assumptions, if you have knowledge of the character.
User avatar #114 to #112 - ecomp (09/22/2013) [-]
"So assuming our universes are the same..."
That's a quote from the article.
User avatar #116 to #114 - mylazy (09/22/2013) [-]
Hmmm. Didn't see that. I don't change my stance though, because no other kind of assumption is logical in this situation.
User avatar #117 to #116 - ecomp (09/22/2013) [-]
He's assuming that our universes would take the same amount of power to destroy, which they don't. It's also likely that he didn't destroy a universe, as they often call solar systems "galaxies". You are so wrong on all fronts dude.
User avatar #119 to #117 - mylazy (09/22/2013) [-]
Really? So a quarter of the universe won't be equal to a quarter of the universe?
User avatar #126 to #119 - ecomp (09/22/2013) [-]
A quarter of goku's universe is not equal to a quarter of our universe.
User avatar #97 to #94 - mylazy (09/22/2013) [-]
So, goku could destroy the universe several times over, effortlessly when in his SSJ4 form. A universe that is filled with billions of galaxies. And you think the effortless destruction of one galaxy means something? My link proved that goku would be faster than superman. It proved that goku's strength would be enough to destroy the universe without even breaking a sweat. Your link proved that superman could destroy a couple hundred galaxis maybe.
User avatar #105 to #97 - ecomp (09/22/2013) [-]
Superman survived muliple supernovas blowing up in his face, and each one is equal to 10 octillion megatonnes. (PS, this is also equal to a ********* ). You don't define how strong the blasts are, and only measure in feats, as soon as you do that, I'll argue with you.
User avatar #108 to #105 - mylazy (09/22/2013) [-]
Really? You don't think Goku surviving and winning a fight against someone who destroyed a quarter of the universe (in one of his weaker forms) is more than a match for someone who survived a couple stars blowing up?
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User avatar #43 to #42 - ecomp (09/21/2013) [-]
Read the picture. It's from a space plague.
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User avatar #45 to #44 - ecomp (09/21/2013) [-]
Whatever, it still happened.
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User avatar #47 to #46 - ecomp (09/21/2013) [-]
muh gokoooooooooo
User avatar #49 to #7 - UberAndrew (09/21/2013) [-]
You just simply can't chart Superman's power level.

Every new version or incarnation is greatly different. Plus a lot of his powers are pretty ******** . No matter how strong someone is they shouldn't be able to pull a planet.
It's like the writers of SuperMan are those annoying childhood friends grown up, adding ridiculous over powered abilities whenever they want.
#56 to #49 - anon (09/21/2013) [-]
Compare the numbers here to the numbers in the death battle thing and you will see. The death battle thing used supermans most powerful numbers to measure everything, but none of goku's number even came close to comparing to what they do in this argument. Goku would win easily.
User avatar #62 to #56 - fizzor (09/21/2013) [-]
Except against Superman Prime.
User avatar #14 to #7 - grimsho (09/21/2013) [-]
It pisses me off that posts in that thread immediately after that top-quality post just ignore it and would rather say stuff like "Superman because I don't like dragonball " and "There's literally no competition. In a simple fist fight with no gimmicks superman can utterly annihilate SS4 Goku." and "To all the people mentioning how Goku can destroy worlds. I'm pretty sure Superman is more than capable of doing the same. Superman is also easily as fast as Goku".
User avatar #20 to #14 - kanpai (09/21/2013) [-]
well... you can't really measure who's fastersince goku can teleport...
User avatar #57 to #20 - mylazy (09/21/2013) [-]
You can measure how fast goku is, since his instant transmission techniques require a kind of focus that can't be achieved when he is in a fierce battle. As such, you would have to ignore the technique when talking about a battle like that...
User avatar #67 to #57 - Vegeto (09/21/2013) [-]
Instant Transmission can be achieved when he's in a battle, because he's done that against both Cell and Buu in split second notices. He can't focus on someone on another world (King Kai for example), but he is always concentrating on the energy of his opponent, meaning no extreme focus is needed to teleport to an area around the current battlefield.
User avatar #16 to #14 - brucekillah (09/21/2013) [-]
Its simply a matter of " **** your logic, TAKE MY OPINIONS"
User avatar #65 to #14 - Darianvincent ONLINE (09/21/2013) [-]
Well the guy that states it was a Goku fanboy who has his knowledge of DBZ but clearly no knowledge of Superman. Goku can destroy his universe? Big whoop. Superman Prime is a being that transcends reality. He wouldn't just beat Goku, a thought would simply make him vanish. That's how insane the scale gets in DC when it comes to the most powerful characters. I enjoy both but actually is no contest if you compare them at their best.
User avatar #38 to #7 - ecomp (09/21/2013) [-]
Power Levels are useless in a battle, and It's been proven time and time again that power levels mean nothing. That's the whole point of them, to prove that they don't work.
User avatar #73 to #7 - lorddarkskull (09/21/2013) [-]
www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyl97TG8jbA
This explains it better
Power levels cannot be used, the entire purpose of them existing is that they're inconsistent and allow villains to underestimate goku.
User avatar #76 to #73 - lorddarkskull (09/21/2013) [-]
A kryptonian's power basically increases every time they try to reach their former limit.
Also, the above video is rather generous on goku's side, as they even give him the ssj4 from the non canon GT.
User avatar #92 to #73 - mylazy (09/22/2013) [-]
I don't think you read the argument. Most of the argument has nothing to do with the power levels. I have seen that video and it is ******** . Take the speed for example. The death battle displays goku as much, much slower than he is. Read the argument for speed (has nothing to do with power levels) in the link I provided. It provides a clear reason why. Then if you look at the argument for how strong goku would be it doesn't say "so and so power level=this" it says that "in this fight so and so did this." Take the Brolly thing for example. Broly is weaker than even the FPSJ which is weaker than most of the SSJ transformations, yet destroys a QUARTER of the universe. And the power levels are multplied after that for each successive SSJ transformation. Furthermore, the death battle assumed that Goku would be unable to figure out the fact that Superman got his power from the sun. I mean seriously. Goku's battles sense is godlike. He may not be smart in that he can't do schoolwork, drive a car, etc. but he can figure people out in a fight as easy as I do math. Then you look at what they made Goku's base power in the video as. They make it equal to when he fought Raditz. His weakest natural form in the game. He is several times stronger by the time he reaches the fight with vegeta, and even stronger when he reaches freiza. Then look at how they thought the SSJ transformations powered him. They said it only doubled his power. Really? Did you even watch the show.
User avatar #86 - missrainbowdash (09/21/2013) [-]
the gun is +3 attack.
User avatar #34 - akabei (09/21/2013) [-]
I thought we were done with these stupid over 9000 jokes...
User avatar #11 - thecakeisaliereal (09/21/2013) [-]
Question: Does your power level increase if you are holding a weapon, or is it only a scale of unarmed power?
User avatar #12 to #11 - lolmasterx (09/21/2013) [-]
Unarmed power.
User avatar #13 to #12 - thecakeisaliereal (09/21/2013) [-]
Thanks, man
User avatar #66 - unikornking ONLINE (09/21/2013) [-]
It's over 9 Raditz!!!!!!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6KWJVXVRoU
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