Before & Now. .. > we invaded the middle east for oil guise!!! > gas prices tripled since then > we have clearly never illegitimately taken any oil from the middle east Before & Now > we invaded the middle east for oil guise!!! gas prices tripled since then have clearly never illegitimately taken any from
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#12 - drewbridge
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> we invaded the middle east for oil guise!!!   
   
> gas prices tripled since then   
   
> we have clearly never illegitimately taken any oil from the middle east   
   
> If Saddam controlled kuwait, he would have controlled nearly 25% of the worlds oil, and he was a dictator and gassed the Kurds, and shipped his WMD's out of the country because we basically told him what we were looking for and when we were doing it. Yeah that definately would be an awesome thing to have happen guise. totally.   
   
> If you don't count Saudi Arabia, 10% of our foreign oil comes from the middle east   
   
"b-but....muh ******** claims!!"
> we invaded the middle east for oil guise!!!

> gas prices tripled since then

> we have clearly never illegitimately taken any oil from the middle east

> If Saddam controlled kuwait, he would have controlled nearly 25% of the worlds oil, and he was a dictator and gassed the Kurds, and shipped his WMD's out of the country because we basically told him what we were looking for and when we were doing it. Yeah that definately would be an awesome thing to have happen guise. totally.

> If you don't count Saudi Arabia, 10% of our foreign oil comes from the middle east

"b-but....muh ******** claims!!"



User avatar #17 to #12 - usernamecannotload
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why have the prices tripled since, anyway?
#20 to #17 - yofutofu
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Maybe because there isn't an infinite amount of oil in the ground , and as supply goes down the population is going up?
Maybe because there isn't an infinite amount of oil in the ground , and as supply goes down the population is going up?
#48 to #20 - CrackPipeWillie
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********, do you have any idea how much oil there is in the world. We've barely used any of the worlds supply of oil theres still plenty of it left. There reason gas prices are so high, is because the oil companies have a complete monopoly over prices, and they can charge whatever they feel like charging.
********, do you have any idea how much oil there is in the world. We've barely used any of the worlds supply of oil theres still plenty of it left. There reason gas prices are so high, is because the oil companies have a complete monopoly over prices, and they can charge whatever they feel like charging.
#67 to #48 - yofutofu
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Do you really think that there's a lot of oil left? Production of sweet crude already peaked and we're on the verge of peaking the oil sands.
Do you really think that there's a lot of oil left? Production of sweet crude already peaked and we're on the verge of peaking the oil sands.
User avatar #24 to #12 - nervaaurelius
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Didn't Donald Rumsfeld himself say that there were no WMD's in Iraq? Also doesn't the later part of your post lean towards the idea that it was about oil? Also aren't we forgetting about the military industrial complex? Also oil prices aren't set by the traditional supply and demand that other goods go through look up OPEC for more details.

Besides that though this content was pretty edgy I'll admit.
User avatar #31 to #24 - nyctonightingale
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When people hear "WMD's" they think of Nuclear Weapons or something around that lines. When in reality, a WMD is literally what the name implies, a Weapon Of Mass Destruction. It can be a Chemical Warfare Agent or a Large Missile, and Saddam had a ******* of Chemical Warfare Agents in Iraq so there actually were WMD's there, just not the kind we'd think of.
User avatar #98 to #12 - metalmind
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Thats because the chinese got the acces to the oil fields.
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#105 to #12 - lufieh
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> we invaded the middle east for oil guise!!!
Care to give a legitimate reason then, dumbass?
>inb4 Saddam was evil
> we have clearly never illegitimately taken any oil from the middle east
The US invaded a country to prevent it from trading oil in a currency, different from USD. The fact you didn't roll barrels down the road doesn't eliminate the idea it was all done to back oligarchic interests.

> gas prices tripled since then
How is this related in any way?

> If Saddam controlled kuwait, he would have controlled nearly 25% of the worlds oil
Yeah, so?
>and he was a dictator and gassed the Kurds
He also used chemical weapons against Iran in the Iran-Iraq war, and was fully supported by the US, but that was no problem, was it?
Also, if we're gonna throw the dictator card, see Saudi Arabia. Tenfold more repressive, but it follows US line of policy and remains unbothered.
> and shipped his WMD's out of the country because we basically told him what we were looking for and when we were doing it
or more like never had any and it was all war propaganda
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User avatar #134 to #105 - drewbridge
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Saddam was a dictator, invaded kuwait, had WMD's, and had a knack for killing his own people.

Please explain more clearly the trading oil in a different currency situation. Let me guess, you like Ron Paul and think we live in 1960 East Berlin.

If we secured and ensured protection of a resource, why did prices go up 300%? That's the opposite of what happens when more of something is around.

All world superpowers supported Iraq during the war, including some of Europe. Russia, China, and the US. People only care about chemical weapons if they're used against civilians.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WMD_conjecture_in_the_aftermath_of_the_2003_invasion_of_Iraq#Syria
I used to believe that the whole WMD thing wasn't totally a decent argument. Turns out I was wrong, there is a ******** of evidence.
#154 to #134 - lufieh
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>Please explain more clearly the trading oil in a different currency situation
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petrodollar
Trading oil in USD increases the value of the dollar. Simple as that.

>Let me guess, you like Ron Paul and think we live in 1960 East Berlin
I'm no libertarian, but I'd vote for him any day over D/R.

>If we secured and ensured protection of a resource, why did prices go up 300%? That's the opposite of what happens when more of something is around.
Your logic concerning the gas prices is flawed. There was never a shortage of oil/gas during the 2008 $140 / barrel peak. It was due to bad policies and bad luck.

>All world superpowers supported Iraq during the war, including some of Europe. Russia, China, and the US. People only care about chemical weapons if they're used against civilians.
Nobody gives a **** what the people think. If you believe any superpower would lift a finger if it didnt involve their best interests, then you should reevaluate your worldview.

>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WMD_conjecture_in_the_aftermath_of_the_2003_invasion_of_Iraq#Syria
I don't think you know what word means - conjecture = assumption. Moreover, all that evidence is hearsay. Top US officials denied having found any WMDs.
User avatar #45 to #12 - Crusader
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It wasn't to take the oil physically, it's that whoever controlled the oil was going to change from the dollar to the euro, theoretically raising prices even more.
User avatar #30 to #12 - vanquishyjs
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Explain 1943 Iran.
#19 to #12 - yofutofu
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I hate this misconception about America invading countries FOR oil. It's close but it's not actually for their oil supplies. The countries that america has invaded for "oil", were actually invaded because they began to sell their oil in currencies other than the USD. Which undermines it's backing (the USD has been backed by oil since Nixon removed the gold standard). For example, before Iraq was invaded they started selling their petrol to Europe in the euro instead of the USD, so the US made this massive propaganda wave about WMD's and eventually invaded. The same happened to Iran when they started selling their oil in the Indian Rupee and Chinese Yuan, hence the sanctions.
I hate this misconception about America invading countries FOR oil. It's close but it's not actually for their oil supplies. The countries that america has invaded for "oil", were actually invaded because they began to sell their oil in currencies other than the USD. Which undermines it's backing (the USD has been backed by oil since Nixon removed the gold standard). For example, before Iraq was invaded they started selling their petrol to Europe in the euro instead of the USD, so the US made this massive propaganda wave about WMD's and eventually invaded. The same happened to Iran when they started selling their oil in the Indian Rupee and Chinese Yuan, hence the sanctions.
User avatar #86 to #19 - iamaniceperson
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This GIF is hipnotizing...
#84 to #19 - chachacobras
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I see your gif and raise you a related one.
I see your gif and raise you a related one.
User avatar #135 to #19 - drewbridge
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So....why did Europe help us, then.
#136 to #135 - yofutofu
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Because the European dollar doesn't have a petrol backing. Also, governments are not immune to propaganda campaigns.
Because the European dollar doesn't have a petrol backing. Also, governments are not immune to propaganda campaigns.
User avatar #137 to #136 - drewbridge
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So wait, something that could of helped Europe was attacked by them, and they supported us in attacking it? Prices still went up.

I do not believe that the entire ******* planet and every single major government somehow didn't know this was going on, but a small group of people on the internet did.
#139 to #137 - yofutofu
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Go read this article    
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petrodollar
Go read this article
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petrodollar
User avatar #138 to #137 - drewbridge
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And that China and India just don't give a ****. Yeah, that doesn't sound likely.
#140 to #138 - yofutofu
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You're so critical of my points, yet you do no question your media in the same way. Also India and China do care, but The US obviously doesn't announce that they invade these countries because they started selling their oil in a currency other than the USD. They say things along the lines of "chemical usage on their own people" and "weapons of mass destruction"   
www.youtube.com/watch?v=P02vjiEZyUs   
Another video.   
PS: I do applaud you for questioning me, because i too believe in questioning everything, but you should also question the motives of your nation.
You're so critical of my points, yet you do no question your media in the same way. Also India and China do care, but The US obviously doesn't announce that they invade these countries because they started selling their oil in a currency other than the USD. They say things along the lines of "chemical usage on their own people" and "weapons of mass destruction"
www.youtube.com/watch?v=P02vjiEZyUs
Another video.
PS: I do applaud you for questioning me, because i too believe in questioning everything, but you should also question the motives of your nation.
User avatar #141 to #140 - drewbridge
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I actually don't listen to "the media", but people like you seem to think I've been drinking the kool-aid...I haven't.

Both countries have over a billion people and a formidable army. There is no way they just keep quiet about **** like sanctions against a country they need. Again, the US has less than 1/3 of the population of these countries.

I don't like videos, either. Hearing some guy drone one sided apophenia/fear spreading/disinformation for 10 minutes.
#142 to #141 - yofutofu
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I wish people would wake up about their own nation, but hey, I can't force knowledge down you throat. Just just remember what I've said and keep it in context when you watch the news about the middle east.    
Also , both India and china still buy oil from the middle east, they are just forced to buy it using the USD when buying from OPEC nations.India and china buy fuel from Iran using their own Yuan and Rupee, and that's why we see the massive propaganda against Iran.
I wish people would wake up about their own nation, but hey, I can't force knowledge down you throat. Just just remember what I've said and keep it in context when you watch the news about the middle east.
Also , both India and china still buy oil from the middle east, they are just forced to buy it using the USD when buying from OPEC nations.India and china buy fuel from Iran using their own Yuan and Rupee, and that's why we see the massive propaganda against Iran.
User avatar #146 to #142 - drewbridge
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Let me guess, you love Ron Paul and think we live in 1980s East Berlin.

That still sounds asinine. Iran themselves know we don't like them for their trying to get nuclear weapons.
User avatar #150 to #146 - yofutofu
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Well yeah i do agree with Ron Paul. He believed in actually following the constitution. For example, did you know that the constitution prohibits a standing army, yet the united states has the most military spending on the planet?
User avatar #156 to #150 - drewbridge
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Are you talking about this?

Article 1, Section 8, Clause 12


To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;



Or something else. I'd prefer if you cited what you mean, I'm not going to take your word for it, like I wouldn't take anyones word for it.

On a side note:
I HAVE been doing my own research for years, I've been watching intently since the 2011 Libyan rebel uprising, I haven't seen any evidence alluding that the Assad regime has used chemical weapons, although I believe he likely has them stockpiled somewhere. I have seen and know that terrorists wouldn't hesitate I think it would be a big mistake to attack Syria and put unstable Islamic fighters in charge.
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User avatar #2 - brobafett
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Well aren't we edgy?
User avatar #3 to #2 - eating
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you keep using that word, i dont think it means what you think it means
#4 to #3 - biscuitsunited
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Here you go.
User avatar #44 to #2 - daboomee
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What's that? He brought up a good point? WE MUST CALL HIM EDGY!
#201 to #44 - brobafett
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>Criticizing me for calling someone edgy
>Has a Pentagram for a profile pic
User avatar #66 - goodnewseveryone
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its so cute watching fj try to be political
#80 - nortledrones
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Hop off the cock of freedom.
#126 to #80 - desacabose
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User avatar #93 to #80 - dedaluminus
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I hate unlabeled charts. I know, from context, that it's something about oil, but without an actual label, it could be the number of people who enjoy vigorous buttsex, by country.
User avatar #101 to #93 - nortledrones
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WE HAVE THE FREEDOM TO ENJOY VIGOROUS BUTTSEX.
User avatar #102 to #101 - dedaluminus
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Tell that to Alabama.
User avatar #103 to #102 - nortledrones
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They don't have internet, we will be fine.
User avatar #104 to #103 - dedaluminus
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If Alabama has no internet, then why is there /k/ ?
User avatar #106 to #104 - nortledrones
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Texas, bullied teens burrowing their dads pistol for selfies, and Florida neighborhood watch officers.
User avatar #107 to #106 - dedaluminus
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Mmm, I wish I could burrow into a pile of pistols
User avatar #34 - murrlogic
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During WW1 we believed in "Strong Isolationism"

During WW2 FDR was pressured into war after the unexpected attack on Pearl Harbor

Our Economy was slowly trying to get back up on it's feet and the US needed man power. With everyone either in the pacific or invading Normandy the US would make a ton of money off War Production

It baffles me that War is this profitable with Human life exceeding the amount you make in currency. absolutely disgusting.
#52 to #34 - anon id: cae06cd8
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first off, the US was already recovering, pretty quickly too, from the depression and only really profitted from war production when it was exporting materials to the allies (before the US actually joined the war). after the US joined, there was hardly any profits to be made from manufacturing anything due to the draft and rationing, most wages were earned by the govt. giving corporations money to pay their employees.
to account for the loss of manpower in the workforce caused by the draft, companies turned to alternative resources such as unemployed women and blacks who most didn't have jobs to begin with due to discrimination. this swell in the workforce was more than enough to make up for all the young men that went to war.

WW2 had raised the US debt significantly, but an unforeseen consequence of the war was that the US was the only country that could mass produce goods because of the swelling workforce and undamaged infrastructure.

TL;DR check yo self befor you wrek yo self
#109 to #34 - anon id: 202033f2
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#120 - bronywhat
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"MY conutry is the best!"
"No MY country is the best!"
"Yor contrie is stoopid"
"Well yor a poopy head!"
"no im not!"
"I'm telling admin on yuo!"
User avatar #127 to #120 - niteghost
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Shut up you poopy head. Your just jealous that your not 'Murican.
User avatar #128 to #127 - niteghost
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You're*

Sorry 'bout that.
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