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CrimsonHazrad (08/07/2013) [-] www.funnyjunk.com/funny_pictures/4723094/Rant+to+end+all+Rants+2
lol the game fat ben made poop asians can actually read minds andre herring, david tennant overacts and is ****** overall, pc gaming is the ********* even worse than wii, i love the item game, Jarjar binks is best star wars character, god exists, feminists have it right, they shouldnt bring back firefly, nor make a half life 3, michael bay is better than christopher nolan, elie dies at the end of last of us, you are now blinking, breathing and swallowing manually and you just realized your tongue has no comfortable spot in your mouth and that your lower jaw has weight to it. You will die alone. Justin Bieber has 200 times the followers of your favorite artist. stephanie meyer made more money taking a **** than you will from now till the day you die. Amanda todd never did anything wrong. lol 9/11.
lol the game fat ben made poop asians can actually read minds andre herring, david tennant overacts and is ****** overall, pc gaming is the ********* even worse than wii, i love the item game, Jarjar binks is best star wars character, god exists, feminists have it right, they shouldnt bring back firefly, nor make a half life 3, michael bay is better than christopher nolan, elie dies at the end of last of us, you are now blinking, breathing and swallowing manually and you just realized your tongue has no comfortable spot in your mouth and that your lower jaw has weight to it. You will die alone. Justin Bieber has 200 times the followers of your favorite artist. stephanie meyer made more money taking a **** than you will from now till the day you die. Amanda todd never did anything wrong. lol 9/11.
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retentions (08/06/2013) [-] wrong the planes came from the outside i'm going to hell again
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alphawolffifteen (08/06/2013) [-] Mom...Dad...I have to confess....I can't take it anymore....I didn't just kill people in Iraq...
I CAMPED
I CAMPED
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thecjism (08/05/2013) [-] Okay, OP, look. You're not a monster. You were doing what you were told. War is awful. I have two uncles and a grandfather that fought in Vietnam. None of them are sane anymore. My grandfather used to have dreams every night which led to insomnia then depression. There are awful things that he did during the war, but I don't look at him any different because of that. If your parents love you, they will be there for you. They won't care what you did, they will be there to listen and so you can get anything off your mind. If you ever need someone to talk to, I will be here, send me a message.
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ldw (08/06/2013) [-]
A lot of incidents have no relevance to orders. Its pack mentality. They do horrible things because everyone else is. Basically fear of going against the grain
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kitsunekoma (08/06/2013) [-] You sir is awesome <3 Thank you, and my heart goes to you and the op.
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anon (08/06/2013) [-]
haha, doing what you are told, soldiers are the worst kind of sheep there is.
Enjoy you re mental problems, anexiety, insomnia etc. soldiers earn these prizes afther war and you deserve it, and go do some drugs, it helps alot, espesially since the heroin in europa has never been stronger and cheaper than afther the afgan war, thanks!
Enjoy you re mental problems, anexiety, insomnia etc. soldiers earn these prizes afther war and you deserve it, and go do some drugs, it helps alot, espesially since the heroin in europa has never been stronger and cheaper than afther the afgan war, thanks!
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AGuyULuv (08/27/2013) [-] Listen here thick skull. He had to do outrageous things, things that can't be forgiven. But he isn't a monster. Ever heard of a marine that enjoyed their time. No, thats because you either die a hero, or see yourself become a villian. so get all that **** out of your head and deal with it
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CupcakeMaster (08/06/2013) [-] What is a monster really? Even if you don't know what OP did - and you probably won't ever know - the fact is that he is living in a past with things he did, things he regrets. Maybe at the moment he did things that society considers monstrous, but that doesn't mean he's a monster now.
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Blasphemer (08/06/2013) [-]
Just a random example: Ask the girl who he raped and beaten then left with a child how she feels about his remorse.
I understand your point, but the fact remains: Actions leave consequences.
Dealing with it by sobbing and crying yourself to sleep, then going insane after years of guilt torture does no good for nobody.
I understand your point, but the fact remains: Actions leave consequences.
Dealing with it by sobbing and crying yourself to sleep, then going insane after years of guilt torture does no good for nobody.
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CupcakeMaster (08/06/2013) [-] Of course. Victims are victims. Old wounds, scars, harsh reminders are hard to forget. And it's true what you say, that it doesn't help anyone. But what is there to do? Do we pin the blame on him? I'm not saying that he is blameless, and that his situation is worse than whoever's life in Iraq or Afghanistan he's ruined. But what's done is permanent, and dwelling on it isn't gonna help anyone either. The only thing left is rehabilitation.
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Blasphemer (08/06/2013) [-]
Something, anything. Rather than sitting in silence while the guilt is eating you inside up. Go to the victims of your crime if they still live, beg for forgiveness, offer any kind of redemption or do anything you can to prevent this from happening to other people... I'm not saying here that this is a must do, these are just a couple of suggestions of what you could do.
Or you think that sitting and waiting your death in such pain is the best he can offer?
Or you think that sitting and waiting your death in such pain is the best he can offer?
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deathstare (08/06/2013) [-] I have a cousin who was in the army a while back. After he finished his training, they told him they were sending him to some Middle Eastern country to attack a civilian town. He told them he came to the army to help protect the country by fighting against the oppositions armed forces, not to terrorize civilians. After refusing to fight, he was discharged. He now has a stable job and family in Chicago, free of guilt.
The phenomenon that envelopes the human psyche, that states, "As long as someone of higher authority told me to do it, it's not my fault" is grossly incorrect. It's equating it to if the Mayor or President told you, to gun down 50+ people for no apparent reason.
You have the right to refuse.
The phenomenon that envelopes the human psyche, that states, "As long as someone of higher authority told me to do it, it's not my fault" is grossly incorrect. It's equating it to if the Mayor or President told you, to gun down 50+ people for no apparent reason.
You have the right to refuse.
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macacobr (08/06/2013) [-] In some countries you could go to the jail for refusing an order like that.
I don't know about USA because, really, all the states are kind of independent of each other and almost of the country itself. (I'm not very smart and I don't know a lot about every country in the world, just passing by and leaving my opinion.)
We should all be trully free, but we're not free when the options are pretty much die/go to the jail or kill innocent people. There is a lot of different cases in this freaking world.
I don't know about USA because, really, all the states are kind of independent of each other and almost of the country itself. (I'm not very smart and I don't know a lot about every country in the world, just passing by and leaving my opinion.)
We should all be trully free, but we're not free when the options are pretty much die/go to the jail or kill innocent people. There is a lot of different cases in this freaking world.
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deathstare (08/06/2013) [-] I'd rather go to jail than kill an innocent. 1,2,3,4,10,12,17 years in jail is much better than an eternity in Hell for ending many innocent lives.
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famouswillqc **User deleted account** (08/06/2013) [-] ''What is a monster really?'' that reminded me of a book I read in college How to Become a Monster books.google.ca/books/about/How_to_Become_a_Monster.html?id=8BkVAAAACAAJ&redir_esc=y
In the book there is two persons narrating the story, in the eye of one guy you hate ''The Monster'' and in the other you end up loving him.
In the book there is two persons narrating the story, in the eye of one guy you hate ''The Monster'' and in the other you end up loving him.
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vycanismajoris (08/06/2013) [-] With that logic every rapist, pedophile, killer, thief, mafias, street gangs etc are excused because what they did happened in the past. Bin Laden is excused because he did his stuff in the past, Hitler too, etc.
Faggot.
Faggot.
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CupcakeMaster (08/06/2013) [-] Call me a faggot if you want. I'm not saying everyone is innocent. That's precisely the kind of thing the American justice system does. It sends criminals with petty crimes to maximum security prisons, turning them into real monsters so that when they finally get released, they'll just kill someone again.
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blanketandpillow (08/06/2013) [-]
Forgiveness is not that easily. We don't know what he did, so I'll assume that he did not rape and kill and torture innocent people, but if you rape and kill an innocent, then you are always a monster. You deserve to rot for the remainder of your life and have the guilt eating away at you.
Again, I have no idea what he did. Shooting at other soldiers is different from raping and killing innocents. So yes, if he raped and killed a small girl, then he's a monster, but if he shot an enemy soldier, he is not.
Again, I have no idea what he did. Shooting at other soldiers is different from raping and killing innocents. So yes, if he raped and killed a small girl, then he's a monster, but if he shot an enemy soldier, he is not.
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CupcakeMaster (08/06/2013) [-] Forgiveness is hard to simply handout, and most of the time, it never comes at all. But let's say you kill an innocent kid and planted a gun to remain innocent like mentioned above. Can you tell yourself that you're better than that? Maybe you can. But I'd be lying if I told myself that I can always be that strong. That I wouldn't be scared. I like to believe that I'd be a hero forever, but it'd be unrealistic. Sometimes we simply lose the willpower to make the right choice.
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boomerbaby (08/06/2013) [-] I've been at the mercy of men following orders before.... never again
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nozepicker (08/06/2013) [-] Because that was an awesome comment. And I have a tiny crush on you, maybe
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dudeimlikeadude (08/06/2013) [-] now i have to ******* re-watch avatar for the third time THANKS
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OOOnelsonOOO (08/06/2013) [-] Looking at all of these comments, you can see there are plenty of X-military here. Talk to them, add friends, and find meeting IRL around you.
I've not been to way, and I pray I never will, but I've seen what it can do. You can't tell 'us' about what you had to do, because we WILL judge you on it - I knew a man who was ordered "no thought" in clearing a town; he was crying to much to fully explain what he did, but i know at least a few innocents died. At least one was very under-aged. Had anyone but him told me that they killed a child, i would have handled it very poorly, as most of 'us' would. But I've never seen a man as broken as he. He was the image of guilt.
He is no longer with us, unable to deal with how society looked at him for his "job". Make sure you have a few buddies (at least a few military, and at least one not, who you trust.) that know what you did, and understand how the military works. The only thing worse than some of things men do in war, is loosing an good solder because of how the world treats him.
What you've done in the past isn't a life sentence. If you truely regret it, volenteer. If you realize it was simply an act of war - continue life. You are loved. There are plenty who understand you. You just have to talk to them.
I've not been to way, and I pray I never will, but I've seen what it can do. You can't tell 'us' about what you had to do, because we WILL judge you on it - I knew a man who was ordered "no thought" in clearing a town; he was crying to much to fully explain what he did, but i know at least a few innocents died. At least one was very under-aged. Had anyone but him told me that they killed a child, i would have handled it very poorly, as most of 'us' would. But I've never seen a man as broken as he. He was the image of guilt.
He is no longer with us, unable to deal with how society looked at him for his "job". Make sure you have a few buddies (at least a few military, and at least one not, who you trust.) that know what you did, and understand how the military works. The only thing worse than some of things men do in war, is loosing an good solder because of how the world treats him.
What you've done in the past isn't a life sentence. If you truely regret it, volenteer. If you realize it was simply an act of war - continue life. You are loved. There are plenty who understand you. You just have to talk to them.
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garentei (08/06/2013) [-] Look at it on the bright side, at least you had more kills as a Soldier that round than your previous best.
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snakefire (08/06/2013) [-] Oh no, I followed my ******* orders and did what I was sent to do.
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kaboomz (08/06/2013) [-] ignore these comments and go to a therapist op
you need to share what happened with someone otherwise the pain will keep growing until you cant take it anymore and do something stupid
theres no shame in asking for help
it takes years to overcome that and without help you are ******
if you have this:
Posttraumatic stress disorder (PTSD) is a severe condition that may develop after a person is exposed to one or more traumatic events.
The diagnosis may be given when a group of symptoms such as disturbing recurring flashbacks, avoidance or numbing of memories of the event, and hyperarousal (high levels of anxiety) continue for more than a month after the traumatic event.
GO NOW
you need to share what happened with someone otherwise the pain will keep growing until you cant take it anymore and do something stupid
theres no shame in asking for help
it takes years to overcome that and without help you are ******
if you have this:
Posttraumatic stress disorder (PTSD) is a severe condition that may develop after a person is exposed to one or more traumatic events.
The diagnosis may be given when a group of symptoms such as disturbing recurring flashbacks, avoidance or numbing of memories of the event, and hyperarousal (high levels of anxiety) continue for more than a month after the traumatic event.
GO NOW
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minorian (08/06/2013) [-] The majority is already deeming him a hero and saying he was just following orders and he's a good man, even though we know nothing about the man. You're no better than those morons from WBC (exaggeration promotes understanding) that thinks all soldiers should die.
That's why I have no respect for either side of the pro/anti-soldier discussions.
That's why I have no respect for either side of the pro/anti-soldier discussions.
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minorian (08/06/2013) [-] Many soldiers have noble intentions, but that doesn't justify their acts altogether.
Just because he is a soldier, doesn't mean he's some sort of Captain America, standing vanguard for America and everything she stands for. He may just be a trigger-happy redneck after all.
Just because he is a soldier, doesn't mean he's some sort of Captain America, standing vanguard for America and everything she stands for. He may just be a trigger-happy redneck after all.
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mistafishy (08/06/2013) [-] That's FUBAR.
When you're in the military, you don't enlist to be a trigger happy ******** , you enlist knowing full -well the risks of dying, being captured, tortured, interrogated, executed publicly, wounded, becoming paralyzed, losing friends, giving up your home, family, life, and doing things that you may not want to do, but have no other choice but to do.
It's a choice to enlist, but not to come home and have people spit at you for proving your worth in both resolve and patriotism.
When you're in the military, you don't enlist to be a trigger happy ******** , you enlist knowing full -well the risks of dying, being captured, tortured, interrogated, executed publicly, wounded, becoming paralyzed, losing friends, giving up your home, family, life, and doing things that you may not want to do, but have no other choice but to do.
It's a choice to enlist, but not to come home and have people spit at you for proving your worth in both resolve and patriotism.
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mistafishy (08/06/2013) [-] I never said they're heroes, I'm saying soldiers don't hop into a conflict thinking "oh man, gee whiz, ima' shoot bitches n' go home."
They go in knowing it's dangerous, but someone's gotta' do it.
Being a hero has nothing to do with it, because being a hero often means you're dead...
And they don't want to be dead, they just know the risk of it...
I said nothing about education or finance or heroes. tbh.****
They go in knowing it's dangerous, but someone's gotta' do it.
Being a hero has nothing to do with it, because being a hero often means you're dead...
And they don't want to be dead, they just know the risk of it...
I said nothing about education or finance or heroes. tbh.****
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blanketandpillow (08/06/2013) [-]
So what if he just killed and raped a bunch of innocent kids because he could? That would make him a monster.
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fyourahole [OP](08/05/2013) [-] Soldiers don't join out of malice, or hate, or a desire to do harm (at least the ones that I have known and do know) Soldiers join to serve their country, because they love it and want to see it become better. Men willing to forfeit life and limb to and ideal. We don't make the calls or pick the missions, we do what we are expected to do, and we try to do it flawlessly. Mistakes will happen in war, because war is chaos; the likes of which I hope no one else will have to experience.
We don't want to have to kill, but we are prepared.
We don't want to lose our friends, but we will.
We don't want to be the minority, but we are.
I love my country, as flawed as it may be, as uncertain as the future may be. But I don't just love my country; I love what it is supposed to be. I love freedom and democracy. I don't condone everything that my country has done, but I don't think we are stupid, so much as confused. I may be the minority, but I know what I fight for, before what "we" fight for. I want a better world, a world where my son won't have to wear a uniform and carry a rifle, but until that time; I want him to know that his daddy will fight for what he believes is right. Sua Sponte.
We don't want to have to kill, but we are prepared.
We don't want to lose our friends, but we will.
We don't want to be the minority, but we are.
I love my country, as flawed as it may be, as uncertain as the future may be. But I don't just love my country; I love what it is supposed to be. I love freedom and democracy. I don't condone everything that my country has done, but I don't think we are stupid, so much as confused. I may be the minority, but I know what I fight for, before what "we" fight for. I want a better world, a world where my son won't have to wear a uniform and carry a rifle, but until that time; I want him to know that his daddy will fight for what he believes is right. Sua Sponte.
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dagreatmax (08/06/2013) [-] there are alot of people from gangs like crips, bloods , etc... that are IN the army.
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capricore (08/06/2013) [-] I joined the army because if i did not ,i would be jailed or fined.
And no way would i act a cripple or a retard to get away from it.
I don't live in a place where i would fight for "freedom on another continent".
If i had to fight id go against a force 10 size our army with artillery not far from our borders with a false promise of NATO assisting us.
And all we have to lead us, is people, who are way too messed up on power, who are few ranks higher, and the top who all believe that a victory done almost a hunder years ago can be achieved again.
But my home is my home.And i will be there to die.
Ay a screenie.
And no way would i act a cripple or a retard to get away from it.
I don't live in a place where i would fight for "freedom on another continent".
If i had to fight id go against a force 10 size our army with artillery not far from our borders with a false promise of NATO assisting us.
And all we have to lead us, is people, who are way too messed up on power, who are few ranks higher, and the top who all believe that a victory done almost a hunder years ago can be achieved again.
But my home is my home.And i will be there to die.
Ay a screenie.
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anon (08/06/2013) [-]
You're just ******* puppets for the powers that be, they're only sending you out there so they can keep fueling the billions they make on warfare. You're not protecting **** , they convince you they are the bad guys just so your attacks on them actually turn them into real enemies, they know that this cycle will just lead them further and further up as an ultimate power, fooling each generation to kill and be killed for their own greed.
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drunkasaurus (08/06/2013) [-] I joined because I couldn't find a good job after high school and didn't want to have to deal with student loans for college. And like most everyone else was there for the same reason. But your idea is equally as inspirational.
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Blasphemer (08/06/2013) [-]
And you can guarantee that your leaders are acting rationally and serve the greater good, the justice?
Funny how the person on the other side of the rifle believes the same.
You are nothing but a tool of corrupted society... and worst of all, you've applied to become one yourself, nobody forced you.
When the matter of death and life, good and wrong are in the line. The worst thing you can do is become a tool of one side and blindly obey.
Funny how the person on the other side of the rifle believes the same.
You are nothing but a tool of corrupted society... and worst of all, you've applied to become one yourself, nobody forced you.
When the matter of death and life, good and wrong are in the line. The worst thing you can do is become a tool of one side and blindly obey.
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anon (08/06/2013) [-]
You know, the "tools" that stand between the common civilian and getting assraped by every other group and army that wants something our country has.
This world has many people, and each person contributes in their own way. Some people create food, give supplies, some people give medical help. Some people take away from our society, like rapists and murderers, and so in life there needs to be people who are willing to give away more than others to make up for that. Some of those people are soldiers, people who give up safe lives to make sure the rest of the people in our country can live safe lives.
Without these people that you look down on so much, the world would be full of takers, no givers to keep the world running. Just the people who lust after power, no one who sacrifices their own pursuits to serve others.
Pull your head out of your ass for a second. Quite blaming the ones who serve humanity and take a look at the ones who abuse it
This world has many people, and each person contributes in their own way. Some people create food, give supplies, some people give medical help. Some people take away from our society, like rapists and murderers, and so in life there needs to be people who are willing to give away more than others to make up for that. Some of those people are soldiers, people who give up safe lives to make sure the rest of the people in our country can live safe lives.
Without these people that you look down on so much, the world would be full of takers, no givers to keep the world running. Just the people who lust after power, no one who sacrifices their own pursuits to serve others.
Pull your head out of your ass for a second. Quite blaming the ones who serve humanity and take a look at the ones who abuse it
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alltimetens (08/06/2013) [-] I agree with your first point, about there being givers and takers. Every person plays a role in society, even the assholes such as rapists and murderers. But we don't need war. Every political conflict that there has been can/could have been solved without an army. I've noticed that all wars from 1992 to now have been waged solely for the purpose of the U.S getting a profit off of it. We're not protecting anyone or anything. The U.S has the strongest military on the face of the Earth, and no country has the balls or the money to wage war on us. Funny thing is, people actually think that a bunch of Middle Eastern farmers pose a threat to us. We're not protecting anything, it's more like we're just sending thousands of soldiers to foreign lands and taking them so we can establish bases.
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Blasphemer (08/06/2013) [-] You know, the tools was a reference to all the soldiers, not just one side of the soldiers. Those people whom the "good" side is shooting at are just as self righteous and honorable about their cause and consider themselves to be the "good" ones. Soldiers are just the tools of their superiors.
"Without these people that you look down on so much, the world would be full of takers, no givers to keep the world running. Just the people who lust after power, no one who sacrifices their own pursuits to serve others. " Oh, you mean, the corrupted selfish ***** wouldn't have anyone to hire or to order to do their killing for them?
"Pull your head out of your ass for a second. Quit* blaming the ones who serve humanity and take a look at the ones who abuse it " Oh, you mean the other soldiers?
By the way, we don't NEED people to serve the other peoples causes by sacrificing their own dreams. We already established that slavery is bad, okay? Volunteered slavery is an improvement but still quite silly.
"Without these people that you look down on so much, the world would be full of takers, no givers to keep the world running. Just the people who lust after power, no one who sacrifices their own pursuits to serve others. " Oh, you mean, the corrupted selfish ***** wouldn't have anyone to hire or to order to do their killing for them?
"Pull your head out of your ass for a second. Quit* blaming the ones who serve humanity and take a look at the ones who abuse it " Oh, you mean the other soldiers?
By the way, we don't NEED people to serve the other peoples causes by sacrificing their own dreams. We already established that slavery is bad, okay? Volunteered slavery is an improvement but still quite silly.
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anon (08/06/2013) [-]
Come back and try to pull that **** when we're fighting on AMERICAN SOIL. Those pigs have no reason to be halfway around the world killing people for the profit of their leaders, Maybe if soldiers fought for their country and not their leaders, this world would be a better place. Look at it from a "terrorist's" perspective. Random white people come in and start taking their land and their resources and then they start killing people, and lying to the media and making them look like the bad guy, if you think about it, who's the real terrorist ? I'm not a hippy who hates all wars. I believe there were times when people fought for real causes, like world war 2, those men had real balls, nothing like the men we see on the front lines today
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drkilliwiggles (08/06/2013) [-] I was like wow that's deep, then I saw your username and was just like **** .
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flufflepuff (08/06/2013) [-]
If you raped women and young girls, you're a monster. If you killed random animals for fun, you're a monster. If you laughed your ass off while killing civilians without orders, you're a monster.
If you killed civilians for no reason other than someone telling you to, you're just another part of a military that serves a corrupt government.
Normally I go anon when i say my opinions, but i won't for this one. I genuinely think that if you enjoy harming people, you're a piece of **** . Argue with me all you want, but I doubt you'll get anywhere. I'm standing by this opinion.
If you killed civilians for no reason other than someone telling you to, you're just another part of a military that serves a corrupt government.
Normally I go anon when i say my opinions, but i won't for this one. I genuinely think that if you enjoy harming people, you're a piece of **** . Argue with me all you want, but I doubt you'll get anywhere. I'm standing by this opinion.
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infinitereaper (08/06/2013) [-] Killing doesn't make you a monster.
In fact I'd say a lot of things don't necessarily make you a monster.
What can I say though,
is that monsters don't usually feel regret.
In fact I'd say a lot of things don't necessarily make you a monster.
What can I say though,
is that monsters don't usually feel regret.
