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#4 - Hightower ONLINE (08/05/2013) [-]
"Fat" is not an ethnicity. It's not even a disease, it's a choice.
#187 to #4 - John Cena (08/06/2013) [-]
I'd say it's more like a consequence of your choices. People don't choose to be fat, they choose to eat things that will make them fat.
User avatar #160 to #4 - tabarzins (08/06/2013) [-]
It's not really a choice it's more of a side-effect.
#159 to #4 - niggernazi (08/06/2013) [-]
in america it is
User avatar #158 to #4 - undereightyeight (08/06/2013) [-]
I would like to kindly disagree. People have a weight their body wants to stay at.

I like to use myself as an example because I am larger but still active. When I'm heavily active in sports (only a swimmer), I only tend to lose about 10 pounds of body weight and then I stay at that level. When I'm out of season for the nine months I eat like crazy and stay at 220 the entire time. This year I managed to qualify and participate at state swimming.
#202 to #158 - Hightower ONLINE (08/06/2013) [-]
You're talking to a guy who stands 6'9" tall and at one point weighed almost 400 lbs. I could justify it by saying I was really tall so I was supposed to be really heavy too, until one day I took a really good look in the mirror and decided I COULD change if I made that CHOICE, and I did. I cut out the junk food, and started doing nothing more than walking for an extra 1/2 hour a day, usually on my lunch break at work. Less than a year later I had lost over 80 lbs. Your body is not a sentient being that can make choices on its own ,and therefore cannot decide it wants to be fat. You control that by the choices you make, and your comment only further strengthens that idea.
#107 to #4 - John Cena (08/06/2013) [-]
Well, that's not entirely accurate.

For some people, like my dad especially, they just have really bad metabolism. The "fat gene" in my family skipped and I have great metabolism and can eat whatever I want without going over 130lb. But people process food differently, and as such, if the food packs on more fat than your schedule lets you excercise off (like working a hard job like my dad), you pack on a bit of weight. He is trying though, he goes for long walks and bike rides with my mom on the weekend and he's trying out a diet to slim down his calorie intake.

Let's not confuse this with people who eat butter and mayo sandwiches and worship mcdonalds with no hope of self-control or awareness. The onus is on you to regulate your diet if you know your body can't handle food as well as others. But for some people it's harder to manage than others.
#203 to #107 - Hightower ONLINE (08/06/2013) [-]
There is no "fat gene" and less than 1% of people who are morbidly obese have a viable medical condition. Your dad may be one of that less than 1%, but that makes him the exception, not the rule.
#193 to #107 - John Cena (08/06/2013) [-]
I hate this misconception. Eating unhealthy food doesn't make you fat, it makes you die from heart attacks.
Eating too much food, whether healthy or unhealthy, makes you fat. If you have a low metabolism, you don't need as much food as someone with a high metabolism, it's not an excuse to be fat.
#106 to #4 - John Cena (08/06/2013) [-]
Yeah i know, im an annon. Get over it, anyways, my point is that for SOME people, its not a choice at all. Some people gain weight earier than others (down syndrom kids for example).
User avatar #102 to #4 - danimer ONLINE (08/06/2013) [-]
Hey there, 15 year old, 90 kg (198 lbs fags). I have tried every ******* diet on the book, I go the gym, and I still can't lose any serious weight. My friends are about 60 kg each (132 lbs) and they eat the exact amount of food I do, some of them even more. Believe me when I tell you, it's not just choice.
User avatar #215 to #102 - macacobr ONLINE (08/06/2013) [-]
Yes... in your case, just as we all ************* are trying to say. Generalizing is the problem of all the ******* world. And THAT I think we can generalize.
#191 to #102 - John Cena (08/06/2013) [-]
It is.
Stop eating too much (diets are BS, it's just about caloric intake*) and exercise continuously (cardio), not just once or twice.

The reason idiots classify it as a disease is because genetics can determine things like metabolism, but just because my metabolism is high enough that I can eat 3000 calories while your's is only high enough for 2300 calories doesn't mean it's not a choice.
You don't NEED 3000 calories. Eat what you NEED, not what you want.

A healthy rate of weight loss is only a single pound (~3500 calories) per week. You won't see yourself magically becoming skinny just because you exercised once. And exercise builds muscle, so you might actually not lose weight, but still lose fat.

*Technically the Atkins diet, no carbs, works best since your body burns carbs first, but it still doesn't work well. Long term the weight usually doesn't stay off, and all that meat is quite unhealthy.
User avatar #88 to #4 - djequalizee (08/06/2013) [-]
I agree

But sometimes it is. Not often though.
#69 to #4 - John Cena (08/06/2013) [-]
Yeah like being a faggot
#65 to #4 - John Cena (08/06/2013) [-]
#63 to #4 - thisshipdied (08/06/2013) [-]
At the early stages yes, but when do you differentiate between a choice and a mental disorder?
User avatar #39 to #4 - wrocky ONLINE (08/06/2013) [-]
it's like saying aids is a choice for not wanting to have sex with condoms on
#196 to #39 - John Cena (08/06/2013) [-]
You have a 100% chance to get fat if you eat too much.
You have a minuscule chance to get aids if you don't use a condom.

You can easily get rid of fat by eating well and exercising.
You can never get rid of aids.

Making stupid analogies is like being wrocky, no matter how you word it, it's always retarded.
#34 to #4 - John Cena (08/06/2013) [-]
While you are correct, some people (although it's very less common) cannot help getting fat. Even though the exercise, they cannot get that thin look because of a certain gland in their body (do not remember which).
User avatar #22 to #4 - roflsaucer (08/06/2013) [-]
There are some cases where being fat is a result of some disease. But otherwise, you're right.
User avatar #20 to #4 - badhatharry (08/06/2013) [-]
It's not as easy to control as people claim, there are people (like myself) who can eat **** all day and not gain any weight, but then there are others who keep every kilo they eat. Yeah, it's a choice but it can still be difficult.
#204 to #20 - Hightower ONLINE (08/06/2013) [-]
I lost almost 100 lbs by adding 1/2 hour of exercise and cutting junk food, so yes it is that easy. It may not be fast, but it is easy.
User avatar #19 to #4 - completeaddiction **User deleted account** (08/05/2013) [-]
technically it is a disease now. Is a disease you are 100% likely to get from eating ****
#17 to #4 - rumbata (08/05/2013) [-]
so is being gay
User avatar #24 to #17 - nogphille (08/06/2013) [-]
obvious troll is obvious
User avatar #13 to #4 - mykoira (08/05/2013) [-]
well it's a choice that not everyone can have. there is people who cannot gain weight even how much they eat
User avatar #5 to #4 - charpentier (08/05/2013) [-]
I agree with you. Racism is wrong because people are born a certain race. Sexism is wrong because people are born a certain gender. Disliking people for something they can't help is wrong. Being fat tends to be more of a choice than anything else. It's your own actions that make you fat.

Having said that, it's still wrong to make fun of people no matter what.
User avatar #15 to #5 - ciarancrashy (08/05/2013) [-]
Actually I make fun of fat people whom I know well to try and inspire to get off their asses and take this **** no more and go exercise.

I might sound like an ass but that's my family did to me and I eventually did something about it. However I will acknowledge that it is a very harsh thing to do, especially if it's a total stranger
User avatar #135 to #15 - wanicochil (08/06/2013) [-]
Just gonna throw that out there making fun of people ain't gonna solve ****

Sure it might of helped you, but for others it just might crush them mentally and make them eat more

Everyone reacts to things differently
#6 to #5 - Hightower ONLINE (08/05/2013) [-]
I didn't make fun of anyone. I'm simply tired of people shoveling junk food down their gullets and then whining when the world won't kowtow to their unrealistic demands. I know people who are on disability simply because they are too fat to work, while I work 60+ hours a week, even after I broke my back in two places.
User avatar #7 to #6 - charpentier (08/05/2013) [-]
Working 60+ hours a week is a choice that you make. If people don't life up to your standards, it doesn't mean they are bad individuals. It means your judgmental.
#8 to #7 - Hightower ONLINE (08/05/2013) [-]
No, it means they are lazy. It's people like you, the enablers, that make their life choice ok. You are so worried about making sure no one has hurt feelings, that you allow otherwise healthy people to slowly eat themselves to death on the taxpayer dime. While other people, like myself, who could genuinely claim a debilitating injury, choose to carry on working so as to not be a burden on an already faltering system.
They aren't my standards, they are societal norms, which are quickly being replaced with"Let people do whatever they want, just don't hurt their feelings."
And yes, making the choice to be a mootch just because you're lazy DOES make you a bad person.
User avatar #9 to #8 - charpentier (08/05/2013) [-]
I'm canadian. I know all about the strain on the health system associated with obesity. I have friends who are fat and I can say that they are not anymore lazy than I am. They have a house to repair, a child to raise and jobs to go to. It's a common misconception that all fat people are lazy. It's not true. There are plenty of average weight people who live sedentary lifestyle. Yes, they eat themselves to harmful disease and death but they are also people who do same thing by not eating anything. Being too thin is almost just as bad as being too fat. For me, it all comes down to the fact that, we cannot deny them the right to eat what they want. It's a free country.
#10 to #9 - Hightower ONLINE (08/05/2013) [-]
I was very specific as to the type of people I was talking about, and I never said they should be denied anything. They should just have to work for it like the rest of us do. People who are willfully too fat to work and do nothing to alleviate their problem should not be given a check to maintain the unhealthy lifestyle they CHOSE. They should be given a diet book and a workout schedule.
Let me simplify this;
Fat+Working=None of my business, and I don't care.
Fat+calling it a disability so they can collect a check=Totally my business, because I'm one of the people paying them to sit home and eat themselves to an early grave.
We clear?
User avatar #11 to #10 - charpentier (08/05/2013) [-]
I get you and I agree. Those people need professional help to get themselves out of self destructive habits, not just a government handout. It's like giving money to a drug addict. Get him of the drug first.
#12 to #11 - Hightower ONLINE (08/05/2013) [-]
Bingo. Nice to see 2 people coming at the same problem from different angles and arriving at the same solution. Maybe like a government version of the biggest loser, or instead of making welfare recipients take a drug test, make them take a fitness test. Improve, or don't collect your check.
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