Satanists. may just convert, i don't pay my current protestant religious part much attention anyhow.. theefg or rat: The more I learn about Satanism, the less h Satan
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Satanists. may just convert, i don't pay my current protestant religious part much attention anyhow.. theefg or rat: The more I learn about Satanism, the less h

may just convert, i don't pay my current protestant religious part much attention anyhow.

Tags: Satan
theefg or rat:
The more I learn about
Satanism, the less
horrendous it seems. Not
even kidding,
That' s cause monotheistic
Satanism is more about
worshipping yourself and sorta
treating others how you want to
be treated etc
hail amen
satanism is actually really solid like
the Fifth Satanic Rule of the Earth
says not to make sexual advances
unless you are given consent
satan seems like a pretty nice guy
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User avatar #70 to #27 - acemcgunner (08/03/2013) [-]
#95 to #27 - anon (08/03/2013) [-]
anyone can write a bible about any religon and spout ******** all over. take the actual bible for example.

thats not what ******* satanism is, at least not to me. only way to become a satanism is to sacrifice your soul to satan and worship him.
User avatar #143 to #95 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (08/03/2013) [-]
It's odd that you say "That's not what Satanism is" when nearly all Satanists disagree with you. Satanism isn't about worship at all, and even in Theistic Satanism, Satan says he is firmly against being worshiped because it takes away your freedom and independence, which is a major foundation of the religion.

You also don't sell your soul. It doesn't work that way
User avatar #50 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (08/03/2013) [-]
For the record. Theistic Satanism is actually nearly the same as Non-theistic Satanism. The only REAL difference between the two is how they view Satan

The general principles of Satanism are justice, empowerment, truth, and freedom, and the final goal of it all is to become your own god rather than serve one. If you fall out of these principles (as some sects have) and start making an ass out of yourself, you tend to be ostracized by the rest of the Satanic community.

For those of you who don't know, there are 5 sects of Satanism. LaVeyan Satanism (who use Satan as a metaphor for the aforementioned principles and godhood), Theistic Satanism (who believe Satan is a real spiritual being, hail him, and believe he is not evil because he transcends petty human morals and is a force of justice), Spiritual Satanism (who believe Satan is a real physical being, an alien from another world that helped humanity grow and evolve through the years and humanity was then tricked into thinking he was evil and turning us against him), Pseudo-Satanists (those kids you see wearing all black and trying to seem as cool and apathetic as possible. Most of them only do it for attention or shock value. These guys tend to be picked on or laughed at by other Satanists), and "Devil-Worshipers" (these guys believe in the christian bible, but believe god is ALL forgiving thus making evil-Satan the true ruler of the Earth. These guys are the ones who get on the news for raping nuns and murdering teenagers, doing horrible things in order to gain favour from Satan. These guys are downright attacked by other Satanists and are not allowed to participate in any of their official gatherings or rituals. Nobody likes them, and they give a bad name to the official religion)
#7 - wertgf (08/03/2013) [-]
#220 to #7 - phacocherman (08/04/2013) [-]
it's actually like "how to have a good time on the internet"
#10 to #7 - inspectoryellow (08/03/2013) [-]
I guess rule 11 is where metal came from.
#15 to #7 - dthegame (08/03/2013) [-]
Ah, satanism. For when the autist figure even atheism is not edgy enough for them.
User avatar #69 to #7 - acemcgunner (08/03/2013) [-]
User avatar #74 to #7 - nazrix (08/03/2013) [-]
I'm guessing because of #9, they don't have problems such as the catholic church had...
User avatar #16 to #7 - Lambda (08/03/2013) [-]
But by the logic of number 6, it would have been OK to take the ring from Frodo.
User avatar #18 to #16 - dreaddune (08/03/2013) [-]
No, because he clearly says to everyone that tries to take the ring, that they can't take it from him.
User avatar #6 - platapus (08/03/2013) [-]
satanism has rules against rape
christianity doesn't.
go figure
User avatar #72 to #6 - buttholee (08/03/2013) [-]
In Christianity, like any old-timey group of people, think that once a man marries a woman, she is his property. But the rule is, you can't have sex with anyone except your partner, so there are rules, but they're complicated.
#13 to #6 - cullination (08/03/2013) [-]
"Thou shalt not commit adultry"
"Thou shalt not commit adultry"
#14 to #13 - nyankat (08/03/2013) [-]
a·dul·ter·y  (-dlt-r, -tr)   
Voluntary sexual intercourse between a married person and a partner other than the lawful spouse.
a·dul·ter·y (-dlt-r, -tr)

Voluntary sexual intercourse between a married person and a partner other than the lawful spouse.
User avatar #20 to #14 - fadetometallica (08/03/2013) [-]
While the modern definition, you know the Bible defines things in different ways. Adultery in the Bible covers a lot of things.
User avatar #64 to #6 - jrondeau **User deleted account** (08/03/2013) [-]
There's some laws in the Bible that even say when rape is okay, like when you pillage people and **** .
#29 to #6 - mattymc (08/03/2013) [-]
thou shalt not commit adultery
-generally rape occurs outside of marriage and therefore is adultery
#19 to #6 - anon (08/03/2013) [-]
christianity definetely has rules against rape
#26 to #6 - anon (08/03/2013) [-]
dude u srs
#41 to #6 - anon (08/03/2013) [-]
rape is forced sex. you can't have sex until you're married and it specifically states not to force your wife or husband into bed.
User avatar #17 to #6 - fasthink (08/03/2013) [-]
Actually, the bible does have rules about rape. I forget what conditions have to be met, but either the woman is stoned or she becomes married to her rapist. The man faces no repercussions.
User avatar #136 to #17 - thenewnuggubler ONLINE (08/03/2013) [-]
I'd definitely call getting married a repercussion for the man
User avatar #25 to #17 - timmywankenobi (08/03/2013) [-]
what it was is either the woman marries the rapists and he cares for her for the rest of her life or they kill him.
User avatar #108 to #17 - arsenalthegunners ONLINE (08/03/2013) [-]
same goes for islam, EVEN worse.
If the woman gets raped, according to the rules, SHE would get stoned, Not the man
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User avatar #122 to #106 - ZenMacros ONLINE (08/03/2013) [-]
Technically a woman can rape a man, but it'd be a hell of a lot more difficult than a man raping a woman.
User avatar #110 to #106 - fasthink (08/03/2013) [-]
I'm sure that, even if a woman raped a man back in the days of the bible, he would rather die or kill the woman than admit to it. However, on the off chance of it actually happening, he would probably still have to marry her or she would be killed.
#60 - lolfire (08/03/2013) [-]
....Well Satan didn't 			****		 us out of the garden of Eden.    
He just told us how to be on the same level as god.   
Then god got all jealous and was like get the 			****		.    
Seems like a pretty cool guy.
....Well Satan didn't **** us out of the garden of Eden.
He just told us how to be on the same level as god.
Then god got all jealous and was like get the **** .

Seems like a pretty cool guy.
User avatar #94 to #60 - morganfreesloth (08/03/2013) [-]
i have always thought: What if god and Satan are real but god is really evil and Satan isn't, but because god is more powerful he used his power to make people think he was perfect and good but when someone goes to "heaven" it is just hell and had they not worshiped god they would go to "hell" which is really heaven
User avatar #81 to #60 - ilovehitler (08/03/2013) [-]
Where can one get the **** ?
#4 - thepinkkirby (08/03/2013) [-]
I prefer the name Lucifer.
#56 to #4 - popeflatus (08/03/2013) [-]
Lucifer doesn't explicitly refer to Satan in the bible.
User avatar #66 to #4 - daentraya (08/03/2013) [-]
I prefer the name of LaVeyan. Satanism and using Lucifer/Satan as a symbol is pretentious, which is one of their own sins. LaVeyan is a kind of social Darwinism, with some guidelines on how not to be an ignorant piece of **** and to live your dahm life. Satanism is mainly for posers who just liked the whole middlefinger to christianity and chok value, and this is a nice way to distinguish the two. No satan, no lucifer, just LaVey
#223 to #66 - thepinkkirby (08/12/2013) [-]
I generally dislike LeVay's religion. I prefer one with a God.
User avatar #224 to #223 - daentraya (08/12/2013) [-]
Why? The 'God' concept is often what makes a religion a religion, and religion is ********
LaVey's ideals are not, even though he dressed it up and paraded it around as a mock to Christianity.
User avatar #89 to #4 - etrian (08/03/2013) [-]
I like helel or heylel, means shining one, morning star, or Lucifer in Hebrew.
#154 to #4 - championofthesun (08/03/2013) [-]
I prefer the name Lucy Ford.
User avatar #5 to #4 - austone (08/03/2013) [-]
I prefer Lucy.
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#112 to #5 - jabzilla (08/03/2013) [-]
I love Lucy
#101 to #5 - blooddodo (08/03/2013) [-]
And I find your preferences to be top-notch.
User avatar #54 to #5 - yeezus (08/03/2013) [-]
Lucy Ford
User avatar #49 to #5 - pistro ONLINE (08/03/2013) [-]
I prefer Lou
User avatar #36 to #5 - messerauditore (08/03/2013) [-]
he prefer's Beelz. Beelz - Stephen Lynch
User avatar #76 to #36 - zombifier (08/03/2013) [-]
Beelzebub, Azazel, Mephistopheles, Abaddon

just some of Lucifer's generals
User avatar #217 to #76 - messerauditore (08/04/2013) [-]
it was a joke. did you even click on the vid i posted?
User avatar #218 to #217 - zombifier (08/04/2013) [-]
didn't have to, Stephen Lynch is well known
User avatar #37 to #36 - beelz (08/03/2013) [-]
User avatar #85 to #31 - commontroll ONLINE (08/03/2013) [-]
Lack of aesthetics is a sin? That's saying it's a sin to be ugly. I'm not even bad looking, and I think that's stupid. In my opinion, Satanism is just a self-absorbed, petty belief system.
I am simply stating my beliefs, not trying to insult or convert anybody.
User avatar #145 to #85 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (08/03/2013) [-]
I don't think you understand, it's not saying that it's a sin to not be beautiful, it's saying that it's a sin to not APPRECIATE beauty (which goes for all things from art to buildings to weaponry to clothing). It's just saying that regardless of your own feelings, you should appreciate and respect the effort put into something

In my opinion, you don't do enough research to have an informed one, and you should look deeper into things before assuming they are petty or bad, as that is one of the things that makes Satanism so misunderstood and hated to begin with
User avatar #149 to #145 - commontroll ONLINE (08/03/2013) [-]
A lack of aesthetics? That doesn't mean appreciating beauty and art, that means not having said beauty. That could be taken as feeling as though you don't have any, but given how self-focused satanism is, I wouldn't be surprised if it meant the former. And I never said my opinion was correct or anything, but to me it's the truth. And if you look at it, it honestly is a selfish worldview. It's honestly hardly even a standard, because a standard is something that is achievable, but still having to work for.

Somebody bothered you? DESTROY HIM! Somebody didn't respect you? Humiliate him!

Those aren't rules, those are the natural instincts that we as humans have in us because we're petty, shallow, and selfish. But we also all have a drive to be more than just human, and to be better than that. Well, most of us do, sociopaths obviously have trouble with that, and that's understandable since it's a genuine disorder.
User avatar #169 to #149 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (08/03/2013) [-]
Okay, you obviously didn't get it so I will explain it to you again

A lack of aesthetics is a SIN in Satanism, because it means you do NOT appreciate beauty, and that is BAD, as the definition of aesthetics is a standard and appreciation of beauty or the principles of beauty (as stated below), it's just saying that you should APPRECIATE things you find beautiful for whatever reason, as beauty conveys a number of different spectrum's. "To me it's the truth" is an oxymoron, as if it were truth it wouldn't be just for you. It's just your opinion, but the problem is your opinion is uninformed and unresearched, THAT is why it is wrong, because you see "A lack of aesthetics is a sin" in a way it's NOT supposed to be taken. That's like thinking someone is bad because of a lie you were told about them, which we can all agree is wrong

"Somebody continued to bother you? Destroy them. Somebody didn't offer you respect? Don't offer any in return". THOSE are the real rules, and it just states plain and simply "You don't have to put up with the **** people throw at you, nor should you". Respect IS a two way street, if someone doesn't give any to you, you are not obligated to give any to them. If someone ignores you or doesn't listen, MAKE them listen. This is how you get **** done, simple as that

The problem is not your opinion, it's that you got your opinion from an uninformed and narrow perception of what it is actually saying
User avatar #177 to #169 - commontroll ONLINE (08/03/2013) [-]
Destroying somebody isn't the only way to not put up with something. You can also ignore them or put them in their place calmly.

But, whatever, both of us are set in our views, and we'll only both get agitated if we continue this. Sorry if I offended you sir. May your days be plentiful, and your axe always sharp. (I think those kinds of goodbyes need to make a comeback.)
#144 to #85 - Fgner ONLINE (08/03/2013) [-]
Definition of aesthetics: "A set of principles concerned with the nature and appreciation of beauty, esp. in art."

Explanation of the rule: "Beauty and balance are two things Satanists strive for. This is particularly true in magical practices but can be extended to the rest of one’s life as well. Avoid following that which society dictates is beautiful and learn to identify true beauty, whether or not others recognize it."
#68 to #31 - anon (08/03/2013) [-]
That little disclaimer at the bottom should be used by every religion out there. There would be less **********
#138 - dwarfman (08/03/2013) [-]
Another Satanism post. 8th graders are out in force.
Another Satanism post. 8th graders are out in force.
#221 to #138 - anon (08/06/2013) [-]
It's a surprisingly relaxing life style.
#158 to #138 - tynerd (08/03/2013) [-]
#175 to #158 - Gaulli (08/03/2013) [-]
**Gaulli rolled a random image posted in comment #251 at Share your current wallpaper ** I lost it at cabbages
#176 to #175 - anon (08/03/2013) [-]
Cabbages are evil and truly express anarchy and doom of death
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#172 to #158 - dwarfman (08/03/2013) [-]




Satan is for pussies, worship the all Mighty Doomguy.
User avatar #11 - Awesomenessniss (08/03/2013) [-]
Then there are the High Holiday Satanists, only celebrating on the major days like Anti-christmas or Slaughter-a-ramadan.
User avatar #35 - nervaaurelius (08/03/2013) [-]
Levayan satanism isn't really satanism in the common view of the term. There is no worshiping of the devil.
User avatar #156 to #35 - miniwilliam (08/03/2013) [-]
Which is why it is the ACTUAL real satanism. The common person is just grossly mis and/or uninformed. LaVey FOUNDED the church of Satan, with satan not being an object of worship, but as an image of human indulgence.
User avatar #157 - zandveerx **User deleted account** (08/03/2013) [-]
This will be about Christianity so I'll probably be thumbed down but what ever. I keep seeing this and it irritates me every time because people compare it to what they think Christianity is to what it actually is. Christianity is a religion about love, stop looking at the dumbass Christians the news like to show off. It's about unconditional love no matter what. Satanism seems to be about loving yourself and believing you're better than what you believe to be god, a all powerful being. If you believe in satan then you believe in god and you believe you can become better than him. It seems egotistical. And I can not stress enough that Christianity is called that because it's based off the teachings of Jesus which means you should disregard the old testament, which Christianity clings to like a bad cold for some reason. The god the two books teach about are even completely different. The new testament teaches about a caring loving god while the old testament teaches about an angry god you should cower under. Don't know how that works honestly. Also, that thing with rape. No, the bible doesn't say anything about that, at all. Least in the new testament to my knowledge. It does however state that you must follow the laws of the land, in other words follow the laws you country/nation/town has set up and in america; it illegal.
User avatar #161 to #157 - zandveerx **User deleted account** (08/03/2013) [-]
Also, I understand it's a joke but it likes to bring out the smart asses and the christian haters.
User avatar #111 - EdwardNigma ONLINE (08/03/2013) [-]
My favourite rules of Satanism are 4 and 11.
4: If a guest in your lair annoys you, treat him cruelly and without mercy.
11: When walking in open territory, bother no one. If someone bothers you, ask him to stop. If he does not stop, destroy him.

That ***** ******* hardcore. It's not "Tell him to get the out" or "Force him to stop." But no, no mercy and destroy. Badass.
User avatar #59 - koinx (08/03/2013) [-]
Well, people kinda understood nowadays how Satanists's work consists of "showing the evil nature of mankind". Which is denonciation. By showing this, they finally do a good job on telling how bad something is by making you realise what it is, which a lot of neo spiritual beliefs have tried nowadays.

tl:dr Satanist wants good.
User avatar #38 - crazyeyedbioll (08/03/2013) [-]
Im a satanist! its so cool right? am I cool yet?
User avatar #121 to #38 - wtfduud (08/03/2013) [-]
"Im a satanist! its so cool right? am I cool yet?"

-Average eighth grader.
User avatar #44 to #38 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (08/03/2013) [-]
If you join Satanism to seem cool and have the appreciation of others, you've totally missed the point of it. ANY real Satanist would tell you that
User avatar #45 to #44 - crazyeyedbioll (08/03/2013) [-]
Its a joke, not a penis. Dont take it so hard.
User avatar #47 to #45 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (08/03/2013) [-]
I knew it was a joke, I was just clarifying what it was about

It's an opinion, not your ex. Don't whine about it so much
#48 to #47 - crazyeyedbioll (08/03/2013) [-]
Good comeback! You have my respect good sir, a waving bear for you.
Good comeback! You have my respect good sir, a waving bear for you.
User avatar #51 to #48 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (08/03/2013) [-]
Well that was a pleasant turn of events. Thank you, you now have my respect as well for having a good sense of humour and being able to take things lightly
#52 to #51 - crazyeyedbioll (08/03/2013) [-]
Indeed. A good day to you sir
#114 - gwinny (08/03/2013) [-]
ive been saying this to people on funnyjunk for ages. i actually own the satanic bible
User avatar #153 to #114 - experiance (08/03/2013) [-]
which one do you own? Satan, Lucifer,Belial or Laviathan

hint: i am a satanist
User avatar #159 to #153 - gwinny (08/03/2013) [-]
all four are books within the satanic bible written by Anton LaVey due to all four being the four rulers of hell
User avatar #183 to #114 - randomserb (08/04/2013) [-]
Congratulations on indulging in a cult-like pseudo-philosophy which barely has anything to do with actual spirituality or in fact any kind of devil figure.
User avatar #184 to #183 - gwinny (08/04/2013) [-]
thank you. i dont need a devil figure. i enjoy the religion the way it is
User avatar #185 to #184 - randomserb (08/04/2013) [-]
Please explain what justifies LaVey's philosophy to be called satanism. Because the way I see it, it's neither satanic nor religious in general, and has no reason to bear the name "satanism". It's just an ambiguous individualist philosophy that is shared even outside of adherents to the religion.
I just see LaVey as a clever guy that used the image of Satan to attract followers for his philosophy.
User avatar #186 to #185 - gwinny (08/04/2013) [-]
so? why must Christianity be named as it is? yes it is a religion about christ but why? christ was jewish and so why make a religion out of his name. because the name has different meanings to different people. this is the same here. the name satan can mean many things to many people. he is seen as the devil in some eyes but a god in others
User avatar #187 to #186 - randomserb (08/04/2013) [-]
Christ was Jewish and spawned essentially a cult which developed into a huge religion because of its morals and its catering to less fortunate people, but that's not related and wasn't exactly my question.
I understand that Satan can be viewed as god, and if this was the case then by all means, but he's not. Instead, the cult focuses on an ideology which has absolutely nothing to do with the actual devil figure it lends its name to. You get my drift? The thing isn't actually related to Satan, and that bothers me. Sure, ha-Satan means "opposer" in Hebrew, and you might argue that this is some sort of metaphor for the nonconformity of LaVey's philosophy, but doing so would be completely nuts because it implies freaking devil worship. Up until the rise of contemporary variant, "satanism" meant actual devil worship. You can't just take a set of morals and literally call them devil worship when they clearly aren't.
User avatar #188 to #187 - gwinny (08/04/2013) [-]
lets leave it at this. LaVey made up some stuff people now follow as a religion (including myself) and so did whoever the **** wants to claim making all other religions. all of them were merely works of the mind and so we can leave the question at: "who gave them the right to run someones life?"
#189 to #188 - randomserb (08/04/2013) [-]
This was the most pointless discussion I've recently had. Instead of justifying your belief when challenged you changed the topic and then dismissed me without providing a rebuttal. Guess I'll have to read this so-called Satanic Bible in order to see what the hell this is actually all about, though I doubt it'll change my opinion at all.
This was the most pointless discussion I've recently had. Instead of justifying your belief when challenged you changed the topic and then dismissed me without providing a rebuttal. Guess I'll have to read this so-called Satanic Bible in order to see what the hell this is actually all about, though I doubt it'll change my opinion at all.
User avatar #190 to #189 - rebuttal (08/04/2013) [-]
User avatar #129 to #114 - guiguito (08/03/2013) [-]
User avatar #137 to #129 - gwinny (08/03/2013) [-]
dinosaurs monkey peanuts!
User avatar #21 - ireallylikepotatoe (08/03/2013) [-]
"and sorta treating others how you wish to be treated"

Isn't the bibles golden rule "Do onto others as you would have them do onto you"?
User avatar #24 to #21 - timmywankenobi (08/03/2013) [-]
I have read the satanists bible for a reasearch paper and it actually say's "Treat others how ever you want because other people don't matter you only need care about yourself, and those who help other are just self rightious cock knockers."
User avatar #43 to #24 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (08/03/2013) [-]
Actually, I've also read the Satanic bible and it doesn't say that at all. What it says is that you have to focus on yourself and get yourself out of trouble first (because nobody else is gonna do it for you) and THEN you can help others you love with their problems and issues. The thing is, you shouldn't help people you don't care for simply because it's a waste of time and energy and if you focused on helping everyone else out of the muck, you'd find yourself right back in it. Furthermore, you're only supposed to 'help', not 'do it for them'. When you fix a problem for someone they learn nothing and only go on to be dependent to you, which is the exact opposite of what Satanism is about. When someone digs their own grave, nobody but themselves should get them out, otherwise they do not learn anything or improve in any way and life would beat them down harder than ever. Yes, this method may be cruel, but it's also very efficient because that's how you get independent, intelligent, strong-willed people who are willing to do whatever they need, rather than thought-slaves who only follow orders and end up getting abused and manipulated
User avatar #192 to #43 - timmywankenobi (08/04/2013) [-]
well it open to a bit of interpretation but fair enough.
#28 to #21 - bigmanblue (08/03/2013) [-]
except that isn't in the bible at all
it is the golden rule taught in schools but it is never ever mentioned in the bible
User avatar #61 to #28 - lyiat ONLINE (08/03/2013) [-]
Matthew 22:36-40

"Love your neighbor as yourself.". It's called paraphrasing. They are functionally the same exact phrase.
User avatar #23 to #21 - spyrothehedgehog (08/03/2013) [-]
yeah, if only people followed that rule
User avatar #171 - derpomancy (08/03/2013) [-]
Satanists just took common sense/courtesy and slapped satan onto it. It's so they can feel special and pretend they're much darker and more mysterious than they actually are.
User avatar #196 to #171 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (08/04/2013) [-]
>Christians just took common sense/courtesy and slapped god onto it. It's so they can feel special and pretend they're much holier and righteous than they actually are

>Buddhists just took common sense/courtesy and slapped enlightenment onto it. It's so they can feel special and pretend they're much wiser and understanding than they actually are

>Atheists just took common sense/courtesy and slapped human nature onto it. It's so they can feel special and pretend they're much more noble and independent than they actually are

>Muslims just took common sense/courtesy and slapped allah onto it, it's so they can feel special and pretend they're much more loyal and lawful than they actually are

>Shintoists just took common sense/courtesy and slapped the universe onto it. It's so they can feel special and pretend they're much more insightful and open-minded than they actually are

See? You can do this with just about anything. Your opinion holds very little weight when it can be so easily twisted, and has so little research and effort put into it
User avatar #201 to #196 - derpomancy (08/04/2013) [-]
also common sense/courtesy does not involve 200 year long wars based on imaginary friends
User avatar #197 to #196 - derpomancy (08/04/2013) [-]
Most of them involve some sort of spiritual belief in a god or deities.

My point is it has no satanic worship nothing that you wouldn't do were you completely absent religious belief which is kind of the point of having a religion you believe in.
User avatar #198 to #197 - derpomancy (08/04/2013) [-]
Basically their "belief" is to do whatever you want. How then is that any different from just existing. Don't you already do what you want as it is, it's like taking the consumption of food, slapping a mythical creature onto it and saying "if you eat food you're part of this religion" it doesn't alter anything therefore the mythical creature has no reason to exist.
User avatar #199 to #198 - derpomancy (08/04/2013) [-]
Other than boredom and/or trying to mask something as being more than it actually is which is just stupid.
User avatar #204 to #198 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (08/04/2013) [-]
Actually, it's rather against that. As explained before, all Satanic sects (not counting Devil Worshipers or Pseudo-Satanists as they are ostracized by the rest of the community that is in the majority) have the main goal of becoming your own god, this involves an actual LACK of doing whatever you want, as you are supposed to intentionally go and throw yourself into struggles and conflict, then reward yourself as you see fit (struggles and conflict meaning just about anything that's a challenge to do, whether through exercise, or acing a test, or having an actual battle, or doing things you're scared of doing). The old quote "Man cannot remake himself without suffering, for he is both the sculptor and the clay" perfectly describes Satanism in itself, as on your journey to god-hood, you will need to have the same wisdom, experience, and judgment that being a god comes with, all of which come from personal struggles and suffering

You may not see it as anything more than a pitiful expression of self, but those followers do take it quite seriously and believe it makes them better people. If I were you, I would value that in itself more than WHY they chose to be better people (after-all, there is no difference between becoming better due to a philosophy and working harder because of seeing a motivational picture, of which we all have done)
User avatar #205 to #204 - derpomancy (08/04/2013) [-]
I guess I read about a different sect then, thanks for the info.
User avatar #207 to #205 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (08/04/2013) [-]
My absolute pleasure. Sorry for coming on rather strong, I didn't mean to insult you or tarry you off if I did
User avatar #209 to #207 - derpomancy (08/04/2013) [-]
Nah, healthy debate. It's always good to share what you know. you often end up learning more.
User avatar #200 to #197 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (08/04/2013) [-]
I included Atheism in there as well for that same reason. It literally can be used as an argument against just about any type of thought process or philosophy

And LaVeyan Satanism doesn't, but Spiritual Satanists and Theistic Satanists both consider Satan a real being, and worship him as such (I've left many comments below describing this relationship, feel free to check on them if you wish). But you're right, LaVeyan Satanists are not concerned with Satan as they only use him as a metaphor, however, they reason they added the name to their belief was because Satan is the greatest 'opposer' in literary history if not history in general, and they wanted to personify that same belief of conflict, strength, independence, and justice into a philosophical system (which is why many Satanists and people who've research it actually argue that Satanism is NOT a religion, but a philosophy). And to even JOIN LaVeyan Satanism you had to 'oppose' usual religious thinking and stereotypes in your area. THAT'S why they added the name of Satan to it, not because they wanted to stroke their ego's
User avatar #202 to #200 - derpomancy (08/04/2013) [-]
I suppose.
Though in the case of countering the order of life, the lucifer experiment has been known to be attempted I think 3 times in the history of the universe and it always ended badly. I wouldn't suggest it.
User avatar #203 to #202 - derpomancy (08/04/2013) [-]
That's mostly why lucifer is shown in such a bad light, it's a warning.
User avatar #206 to #203 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (08/04/2013) [-]
Indeed it is, but that's also why we're human, isn't it? We're not human because we became human, we're human because we earned it, because we fought against fate and every circumstance and every statistical improbability no matter how bleak things seemed. Because our own force of will carries us farther than any advantage our species has physically or mentally, and it is only human nature to reach for the stars even if others get burned for it or we get burned for it, simply because if we didn't...we would never know

That's why "Satanism" is a religion of the man rather than the god, because we ARE gods and just have to earn it (the basic message of Satanism)
User avatar #208 to #206 - derpomancy (08/04/2013) [-]
Well yeah but life thrives in unity, not individuality.
A great painter can make a thousand masterpieces, two great painters working in unison can make ten thousand. That's the idea anyway.
User avatar #211 to #208 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (08/04/2013) [-]
Ah, humanity thrives on unity, but man thrives on individuality. That's why we spend our entire teenage years figuring out who we are and what makes us special, and the rest of our lives being content in being a small cog that serves a bigger machine, because we KNOW we are special, and what makes us special is our job as the cog (so to speak)
User avatar #212 to #211 - derpomancy (08/04/2013) [-]
Of course everyone is special in their own way but even an individual can shine most when he's got people he synergises with well. If you've got a loving wife you'll be a lot more likely to really flower as a person. It goes without saying that it's good to be a capable individual but it's when two capable individuals with wavelengths that compliment each other meet that they both really can come into their own league.
User avatar #213 to #212 - derpomancy (08/04/2013) [-]
So I think I'd have to disagree, man thrives in unity, but it has to be healthy unity not forced.
User avatar #214 to #213 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (08/04/2013) [-]
That's true, I never thought of it in such a way. Although I suppose it goes back to that old quote "When we shine, we give others permission to do the same" (which also happens to be content here on funnyjunk at the moment). So can we agree that man thrives best when he is doing what is best for himself as WELL as the whole?
User avatar #216 to #214 - derpomancy (08/04/2013) [-]
Doing what is best for yourself is what's best for the whole, if everyone was thriving in life the issues we face today would just melt away, five years from now they'd be a distant memory.
User avatar #77 - IamEllis (08/03/2013) [-]
its true. I'm catholic but I find that many organized religions have become a religion of man and not god. The church has does more evil than Satanists do. Just as everything else, the church likes to brainwash people into thinking that Satanists are bad and that they are bloodthirsty crazed cult members.
#84 to #77 - anon (08/03/2013) [-]
Are you saying Satanism is okay from your point of view?
User avatar #87 to #84 - IamEllis (08/03/2013) [-]
I agree and disagree with some of it. I have my own different firm believes but what I'm saying is let people believe what they want to believe.
User avatar #71 - acemcgunner (08/03/2013) [-]
more heresy!! this a chaos god i know it, destroy Satan, his not the true emperor!!
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