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#40 - poiklman (08/03/2013) [-]
Alright, now that's just inappropriate.
User avatar #62 to #40 - groundzero ONLINE (08/03/2013) [-]
wow you found that out?
#58 to #40 - skysaurus ONLINE (08/03/2013) [-]
equality.
#70 - erotictentacle (08/03/2013) [-]
Well, less feminine women can be popular and attractive too, if done right.
#84 to #70 - anon (08/03/2013) [-]
In MGS4 she's a perfect example, however in the first game she was the espionage equivalent of princess trapped in a tower.
#86 to #84 - erotictentacle (08/03/2013) [-]
Still better than Johnny
User avatar #93 to #70 - ivoryhammer (08/03/2013) [-]
I always liked Jill Valentine, before her blondification in RE5
#22 - CrimsonHazrad (08/03/2013) [-]
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These people actually have a point. For example, on the rare occasion that fat person is the protagonist in a major motion picture their character is usually buffoonish and any comedy/drama around the charcter is weight related.
User avatar #76 to #22 - organiclead ONLINE (08/03/2013) [-]
Mario's pretty awesome for being fat.
#31 to #22 - irapestuff (08/03/2013) [-]
shut up fatty
#28 to #22 - anon (08/03/2013) [-]
Well yeah, because the majority of people don't want to see John Goodman or someone similar as the main character in 50 shades of grey.
User avatar #29 to #28 - CrimsonHazrad (08/03/2013) [-]
The point is that they never get substantive roles, just cheap gimmicky ones. If they get a substantive role, it's as a third-tier auxiliary role. See Dot Marie Jones
#30 to #29 - anon (08/03/2013) [-]
Well their body type does limit their roles, they can't be some Navy seal or a special agent, they're not going to be the stud in some romance film, there just isn't a wide (hue) range of roles for fat people.
User avatar #34 to #30 - bjorntheberserk (08/03/2013) [-]
They could play Volstaag from thor oh wait they just got some irish dude in a semi fat suit. How about the blob from x-men oh wait some dude in a fat suit. But did they have any girl in a fat suit for Precious? Nope think not. And everyone hailed that bitch as "brave" and all that ******** . For being a fat actress in a movie about a fat person.
User avatar #47 to #22 - crazyeyedbioll ONLINE (08/03/2013) [-]
Well because do you ever see a fatass going around doing badass **** ? Or are they always doing comedic bafoonish **** ?
User avatar #48 to #47 - CrimsonHazrad (08/03/2013) [-]
yeah, theyre called nfl linemen
User avatar #50 to #48 - crazyeyedbioll ONLINE (08/03/2013) [-]
Those guys are a whole different type of fat then shown in movies, they are muscle fat. bafoons in movies are just fat fats. linebackers actually have to exercise
User avatar #51 to #50 - CrimsonHazrad (08/03/2013) [-]
lol sumo wrestlers
User avatar #52 to #51 - crazyeyedbioll ONLINE (08/03/2013) [-]
ehh, I wouldnt really call them badasses per say, just big fat bowling balls that try to push each other off a ring
#5 - trailoftears (08/02/2013) [-]
At least ONE company is oversexualizing the male characters now too.

Capcom leads the charge. If you do it with one, do it with all.
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#18 to #15 - vikingpizza (08/03/2013) [-]
Check and mate
#74 to #15 - trailoftears (08/03/2013) [-]
Well, i meant they REALLY started it with the RE alt costumes...maybe they'll keep it up.
User avatar #41 to #5 - organiclead ONLINE (08/03/2013) [-]
I think you spelled "Square Enix" wrong.
#49 to #41 - hawaiianhappysauce (08/03/2013) [-]
I don't think the male final fantasy characters are being over sexualized that much.  Compared to capcoms MVC and MVD and recent recident evil games (boulder punching chris redfield).
I don't think the male final fantasy characters are being over sexualized that much. Compared to capcoms MVC and MVD and recent recident evil games (boulder punching chris redfield).
User avatar #53 to #49 - organiclead ONLINE (08/03/2013) [-]
That seems more machioization. Trying to find a good example, but sexualization aimed towards women tends to be a bit... softer.
User avatar #54 to #53 - hawaiianhappysauce (08/03/2013) [-]
Please explain.
#55 to #54 - organiclead ONLINE (08/03/2013) [-]
Are you familiar with the concept of the bishounen? That's a subtype of male meant to cater to a female audience. While not all girls are into that, it's pretty popular considering how often those traits show up in female fanart.
User avatar #56 to #55 - hawaiianhappysauce (08/03/2013) [-]
Interesting. Though I don't think that follows most of the final fantasy games. I didn't think Sahz, Basch, and Auron were anything like that, and the ones who did had the most annoying personalities ever (Tidus, Vaan, Hope) or act retarded (Wakka, Snow).
#57 to #56 - organiclead ONLINE (08/03/2013) [-]
I wouldn't be so sure...
#68 - shadecrenshaw (08/03/2013) [-]
The gender issues in video games is not equal, when it comes to strictly body-shape and physical attractiveness, yes, both males and females are objectified in the same way.

But more often than not, the busty female character is pretty much damn near useless, or overpowered as **** but needs the male's guidence because she's 'naive' or something.
While male characters are 9 times out of 10 portrayed as heroic, strong, smart and honorable.

As far as the physical stuff goes, yep, both women and men are equally as objectified, but when it comes to the other things, like personality, strength and role, its a whole other can of worms.

tl;dr - **** feminazi's.
User avatar #83 to #68 - Zeigh ONLINE (08/03/2013) [-]
Many games are marketed towards males of varying age for the simple reason that they're the majority so they'll make more money.
It's really that simple.
#87 to #83 - anon (08/03/2013) [-]
That circular logic. Games are marketed for men because men are in the majority of game players and men are the majority of the game players because games are marketed toward men.
User avatar #88 to #87 - Zeigh ONLINE (08/03/2013) [-]
I didn't say all game now did I?
Point is, they're rarely going to risk deviating from a successful trend, in other words from their perspective : Don't fix what isn't broken.
#89 to #88 - anon (08/03/2013) [-]
Treu, that's why we have so many versions of Call of Duty floating around.

I can't wait for the industry to implode on itself and be born anew.
#82 to #68 - anon (08/03/2013) [-]
Are they really "equally" objectified? I don't play many games, but off the top of my head I can think of a lot of ugly male game characters (Voldo, Dhalsim, Zangif, Heihachi, and on and on and on), but only, like, one ugly female. It's really quite far from equal. There is such a broad range of male characters, and virtually no range of female characters.
#73 to #68 - IAMDIZZYONFANTA (08/03/2013) [-]
Pretty much. How many escort quests are a useless female character? And how many are a useless male? Appearance doesn't bother me. A girl character having big tits is awesome, as well as a male character being buffed to Hugh Jackman levels. It's the roles they usually take in the games that are iffy.
User avatar #77 to #73 - emokoneko (08/03/2013) [-]
But I don't like the huge tits or the ridiculous muscles...>.> Well, not when it's to the point the characters look ridiculous.

But, then again, I don't play video games for the eye candy.
#90 to #77 - IAMDIZZYONFANTA (08/03/2013) [-]
Fair enough. It depends on the game I'm playing. Halo? Not interested in eye candy, the main dude is in a shapeless suit. In fact, the transfer of Cortana from "semi-androgynous AI" to "BOOBS" was a little irritating. But if I'm playing something not serious at all like a ****** JRPG then eye candy is all good.
User avatar #16 - Lookingguy (08/03/2013) [-]
so thats what a girl console gamer looks like.
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User avatar #7 to #1 - jimbobji (08/03/2013) [-]
I like super buff guys, but only as a sexual thing, I'd only date a regular dude. Imagine going out with one. Complaining about calories and shiet.
User avatar #9 to #7 - teranin (08/03/2013) [-]
most WOMEN don't like super buff guys. You like the dick but your genital configuration is not adherent to the original assertion.
#14 to #9 - akimbobears ONLINE (08/03/2013) [-]
Well most MEN don't like fake titted bimbos.
User avatar #71 to #14 - teranin (08/03/2013) [-]
who said they did?
#19 to #14 - thepinkkirby (08/03/2013) [-]
Sweet Babies! I like your honesty.
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User avatar #45 to #13 - jimbobji (08/03/2013) [-]
I'm not no woman
User avatar #63 to #1 - stijnverheye (08/03/2013) [-]
but its okay to look a little buffed (not like a cloud )
User avatar #3 to #1 - teranin (08/02/2013) [-]
also, why is your name so blue? Have you been on FJ since before it existed?
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User avatar #2 to #1 - teranin (08/02/2013) [-]
most men don't like women with impossible proportions either, we find it off putting and ridiculous. The double standard still stands, however.
#10 to #2 - kweel ONLINE (08/03/2013) [-]
And then there is me, who'd **** anything that moves
#17 to #10 - fuzdohraa (08/03/2013) [-]
and then there is me who'd **** anything, regardless of it moving or not
User avatar #65 to #17 - imolestthequeen (08/03/2013) [-]
I'd **** a squidgy kettle if I could find one.
#72 to #65 - anon (08/03/2013) [-]
Me too, bro.
#11 to #10 - teranin (08/03/2013) [-]
and some things that don't, I take it.
and some things that don't, I take it.
#12 to #11 - kweel ONLINE (08/03/2013) [-]
dragon dildos?
User avatar #6 to #2 - iloveburzum (08/02/2013) [-]
Most of us like it.

Some don't.
User avatar #21 - demandsgayversion (08/03/2013) [-]
What bothers the **** out of me is in games like that one new Resident Evil game where Chris is all loaded up with gear and a vest and earpiece and looks seriously over-ready for combat, and then ******* Jill is just naked and painted blue with a couple straps. What is Capcom run by 12 year olds? Then there's that other chick who is literally wearing a Lady Gaga outfit.
#46 to #21 - nerdforlife (08/03/2013) [-]
I'm pretty sure Capcom was making up for the lack of sexy in all the previous Resident Evil games but I'm also pretty sure they got Michael Bay to give them ideas for the visuals in Resident Evil 5 (explosions and tits and guns).
User avatar #26 to #21 - flemsdfer (08/03/2013) [-]
The last resident evil game I played was like that. Chick literally made nothing but sexual innuendoes "Just because there are zombies doesn't mean you can stare at my ass!" Bitch I'm bleeding out on the ground like I give a **** about you. and she was wearing stiletto heels. All the time. Running from zombies and doing navy seal diving and **** ....in stiletto heels. It actually pissed me off how much sexual catering that was done in that game.
User avatar #69 to #26 - demandsgayversion (08/03/2013) [-]
I don't see why there has to be sexual catering at all. Mass Effect having a variance (although not at first) of romance options was a good idea; it got you attached to the characters which made a more immersive story. But to have tits flopping around is just ridiculous. Look at the comparison above, for example. A buff dude isn't the same as a chick with gigantic floppy oblong tits. It would have to have a horse dong flopping around, and as far as I've seen, only 1 game has actually done that: Dante's Inferno. And that was Satan anyway.
#32 - ataeru (08/03/2013) [-]
I really hate it when people pull this ******** off. You can't just say it's a power fantasy for one gender, but an unrealistic expectation blah blah blah for the other. They are inadvertently being sexist by doing this. Double sexist especially for this game, since both genders have their share of self confident characters. plus, they're complaining about a ******* video game, a FANTASY setting, that doesn't effect them in the slightest. There will be critisim for products, but it doesn't insult your body weight. They should really calm the **** down.
User avatar #60 - BrotherDeath (08/03/2013) [-]
Let me make this easy for you:

They are trying to appeal to their demographic. And that's fine.

The reviewer did about two lines on the art style and depiction of women, less than a fifth of the overall review. She still gave it a 6/10 I believe.
#64 to #60 - delivering (08/03/2013) [-]
6.5, but that's besides the point.

She's allowed not to like the artstyle/graphics. Perfectly fine.

The problem here is that it's a women that said these things.

When the dude from Kotaku called the artist for the game a horny 14 year old, there was far less controversy.

It's weird, really.
User avatar #8 - makedonski (08/03/2013) [-]
How about this:
I don't find blobs attractive. I don't have to like you just because you're a female. Oh, you don't shave your armpits? Fine, just don't plan on ever having sex.
User avatar #20 to #8 - masdercheef (08/03/2013) [-]
Interesting opinion. Though I have no issue with armpit hair, I would hope that the pubic hair is at least trimmed. For hygienic reasons more than anything.
User avatar #25 to #20 - radtroll (08/03/2013) [-]
I won't touch a girl with armpit hair with a 10 foot stick, that **** is just nasty

AND yeah, guys should do it too, at least trim your **** it's disgusting
User avatar #59 to #25 - makedonski (08/03/2013) [-]
I would use a 10 foot stick because, well, that's 10 feet away from them.
User avatar #38 - dantemp (08/03/2013) [-]
funny thing, I've noticed that the people complaining about the DC's art were mostly men...
#78 - anon (08/03/2013) [-]
Not that I care, but I'd guess the issue is men can work out to achieve that look while women would require major surgery.
#23 - voidherald (08/03/2013) [-]
The idea that male video game characters are 'sexualized' is kind of silly, as video games aren't actually catering to people sexually attracted to said males. Muscle-bound protagonists are much more a male power fantasy than they are eye-candy for those attracted to men.
User avatar #79 to #23 - neutralgray (08/03/2013) [-]
You are very correct, sir. Men aren't objectified in games. We're idolized.

Most males just don't want to willing admit that video gaming has been nothing but a boy's club for a long time now and now that girls are breaking in they get their knickers in a wedgie and go complain about it on the internet.
User avatar #27 to #23 - cmurderx (08/03/2013) [-]
what the **** could eye candy possibly be if not a half naked man with a perfect body
#35 to #23 - ataeru (08/03/2013) [-]
Gonna say no to that.
#43 to #35 - organiclead ONLINE (08/03/2013) [-]
Dante's the exception to every rule.

Now excuse me while I Try to beat hard mode with all S ranks.
#39 to #23 - nyangiraffe ONLINE (08/03/2013) [-]
It's like you have forgotten that there are literally thousands of people drooling over which game guys they would bang.
It's like you have forgotten that there are literally thousands of people drooling over which game guys they would bang.
#44 to #23 - organiclead ONLINE (08/03/2013) [-]
This is what happened the last time a big series tried to cater to a female fanbase half way through the series.
#37 to #23 - feelythefeel (08/03/2013) [-]
Nobody is eye candy like Gaston!
User avatar #80 - azraelthemage (08/03/2013) [-]
Personally, I don't give a **** . Unless a game is on par with some like, say High School of the Dead, I don't see a problem with fanservice. Oh my god, that character has massive tits! So do a lot of other female characters, dumbass. Are you gonna throw a tantrum about them too?
User avatar #92 to #80 - ivoryhammer (08/03/2013) [-]
Soul Calibur can be a bit crazy with it
#61 - fairly (08/03/2013) [-]
severely what?
User avatar #24 - neoexdeath ONLINE (08/03/2013) [-]
Lets be fair here, when was the last time ANYBODY saw ANYBODY looking REMOTELY similar to themselves in a Video Game?

...Okay, my filthy item daddy kind of looks like one of the Undead from Dark Souls, but that's abouti t!
User avatar #33 to #24 - orthornicun (08/03/2013) [-]
i make my characters look like me
User avatar #67 to #24 - rabaneristo (08/03/2013) [-]
The only game I can make a character look like me is Oblivion...
User avatar #75 to #24 - deadadventurer (08/03/2013) [-]
Remotely similar. Easy peasy. Any skinny tall guy with long hair.
#42 to #24 - elyiia (08/03/2013) [-]
Not that long ago.
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