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#31 - dapape
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(08/02/2013) [-]
******* this.
#547 to #31 - anon
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(08/03/2013) [-]
This idea is really good. Also politicians should wear go pro cameras all the time so we would see if there is some funky business going on. Maybe doctors as well, just to be sure that they don't kill people. Maybe every company that repairs stuff, so we know if they are actually fixing **** or not. AND my neighbour also, he is a bitch I wanna know what he does all day. might as well everybody....
#509 to #31 - symustafa
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(08/03/2013) [-]
You know the cameras would be "out of order" all of a sudden at some point, right?
#432 to #31 - thatevanguy
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(08/03/2013) [-]
Considering all cops believe they are above the law and break it constantly for the sake of making a name for themselves, I support this entirely.
#493 to #432 - waterbottlemanboy
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(08/03/2013) [-]
Sarcasm? I can't tell.
#389 to #31 - scottmc
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(08/03/2013) [-]
A lot of departments are starting to use lapel cams. The ones that I know about from my city's department have to be turned on when the officer interacts with the public. I don't see an issue of invasion of privacy when they're only used as a tool to gather evidence, saving tax dollars in court fees. The cameras protect the rights of civilians, too. An officer will be less likely to abuse someone, knowing it's being recorded and that it would be reviewed in court. When either side makes a case against the other, the video doesn't lie. What makes people feel paranoid about this?
#342 to #31 - spetsnazvymple
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(08/03/2013) [-]
they're already doing that in some areas
#306 to #31 - wewumbo
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(08/03/2013) [-]
Are we going to ignore that fact that its 'publicly available'? The only way that this would work is to have the recorded actions of the policemen stored away until needed, then releasing it in court of what have you. If the government didn't hold onto the information prior to actually needing it, or even worse they live streamed this **** you would have people constantly watching the police. Im not sure that is a good idea considering criminals can pretty much track the police, pretty ironic eh? Police brutality is bad but this isnt the way to stop it, courses to becoming one should be more stricter. IDK red thumbs maybe? I just didnt expect anyone to think this was a good idea but you dont have to take my word for it I aint even American (ASSUMING this was directed to American policemen?)
#275 to #31 - rudianos
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(08/02/2013) [-]
Sometimes wee ***** deserve to be brutally beaten... Just saying. And no one needs to know..
#257 to #31 - anon
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(08/02/2013) [-]
A camera doesn't compare to the emotion and intensity of actually being there during the time; If something like this were to happen it would be taken out of context too much, and if a cop did the right thing in the moment and the camera didn't catch something that the cop did, and the cop reacted it could really **** over a cops career, and in all reality, cops have instincts that you just can't feel on a camera recording causing cops to do these actions, sincerely a real cop.
#214 to #31 - DJstar
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(08/02/2013) [-]
there is already a town that has basically done this and complaints of abuse by officers dropped by over 80%
there is already a town that has basically done this and complaints of abuse by officers dropped by over 80%
#186 to #31 - meierme
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(08/02/2013) [-]
i think that would be an amazing idea, just not in real time. maybe posted at the end of the day kind of thing. that way actual criminals cant monitor to see where the cops are 24/7, which would drastically increase crime.
#182 to #31 - araell
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(08/02/2013) [-]
thats a pretty bad idea
#80 to #31 - ScruffytheJanitor
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(08/02/2013) [-]
They already have dash cams on their vehicles. It's also impossible to have ALL the video publicly available because that **** would take up so much space. Imagine being the guy who has to do that for the LAPD. Uploading 12 hours worth of video for around 9,000 officers every day. Do you know how much space that **** takes? A minute of FRAPS recording is already 4.45 gigs.
#442 to #80 - thefates ONLINE
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(08/03/2013) [-]
Sounds beneficial to the economy to have all of those new jobs to store the video!
Especially beneficial if we produce the storage systems and cameras here or in Canada.
#517 to #442 - ScruffytheJanitor
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(08/03/2013) [-]
Even if they had enough people to upload the sheer volume of videos that would be produced, no internet is capable of uploading 31399200 gigs of video a day, nor a website able to handle that amount.
Even if they had enough people to upload the sheer volume of videos that would be produced, no internet is capable of uploading 31399200 gigs of video a day, nor a website able to handle that amount.
#64 to #31 - wolvesbrickwall
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(08/02/2013) [-]
>record cop's every move
>totally fine
>record citizen's every move
>worse than the holocaust

here come the red thumbs.
#460 to #64 - yetiyitties
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(08/03/2013) [-]
Some jobs require the employees to be under constant surveillance. This is nothing different.
#248 to #64 - xdeathspawnx
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(08/02/2013) [-]
In a normal job in an office, your boss is always watching you and you are surrounded by coworkers. A cop is often by himself with no one to monitor him, meaning he can get away with things people with normal jobs can't.
#311 to #248 - wolvesbrickwall
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(08/03/2013) [-]
Not everyone has a desk job. And a lot of cops are with partners.
#412 to #311 - deathstare
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(08/03/2013) [-]
Would you expose your partner every time he did something wrong? Most cops don't
#424 to #412 - wolvesbrickwall
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(08/03/2013) [-]
Most cops don't do bad things.
#425 to #424 - deathstare
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(08/03/2013) [-]
As I said, some cops do bad things, and most cops don't expose their partner.
Most cops are great, but there are bad apples everywhere. Anyways, gotta go to work now.
#482 to #425 - rplix
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(08/03/2013) [-]
There are bad apples in every workplace.

I hate it when people think cops are just these people who don't give a **** about the law and harass people everyday.
#483 to #482 - deathstare
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(08/03/2013) [-]
A bit late, I already stated that -> 477
#485 to #483 - rplix
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(08/03/2013) [-]
Didn't see it, sorry.
#486 to #485 - deathstare
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(08/03/2013) [-]
No probs bro, you're early reply before finishing the thread is proof of your strong feelings of this subject.
#427 to #425 - wolvesbrickwall
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(08/03/2013) [-]
With most (I'd say most being an understatement) cops being great, there's no need to equip them all with cameras.
#477 to #427 - deathstare
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(08/03/2013) [-]
Turns out I wasn't working today, wasted gas...
Anyways, as police are in a position to easily wrongfully convict someone after planting drugs, or assaulting them, and most usually have the court side with them- It would make sense for them to always be monitored. In this world, the case is always the spoiled apple ruins the bunch. I think the safest option would be to have the camera's on while on duty. It's a way to make sure nothing illegal or wrong happens, as well as enforcing professionalism while dealing with the public. To be honest, the person who refuses to show, usually has something to hide, and good cops have nothing to hide.
#516 to #477 - wolvesbrickwall
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(08/03/2013) [-]
So then why do people have a problem with NSA? I mean if you're a good person, you have nothing to hide.
#576 to #516 - deathstare
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(08/04/2013) [-]
NSA is completely different. They're not paying the public, they only want to monitor them. It also goes against privacy acts in that the a person has the right to his/her own privacy while s/he is not working. The policemen are working and they are in a position to easily alter someone's life
#164 to #64 - yeezus
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(08/02/2013) [-]
Well that's because it would be during the cops job, obviously. Not their personal lives. People want their personal, at-home lives to be private. Why would they care if they have a camera on them when they're at work? They're not going to be having sex with their wife while on duty.
#495 to #164 - waterbottlemanboy
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(08/03/2013) [-]
Walter White cared.
Walter White cared.
#69 to #64 - oharo
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(08/02/2013) [-]
>Cops have the power to **** over your life, lie, and you'll face the consequences.
>That is based solely on their morals.
>Normal people don't have that ability.
>They aren't recorded while in private; only while on duty.
>You always have evidence about the cop's actions while on duty, and the responses of people to objectively see who's at fault.
>Stops cops from being able to be cunts. (Not all of them are, most I've found are quite friendly and helpful. But some are just trying to fill a quota.)
#208 to #69 - anon
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(08/02/2013) [-]
Our cops work totally fine and only the 1%* and gangs consider them a threat, everyone else would trust their lives on cops.

What's wrong with your cops?
#462 to #208 - anon
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(08/03/2013) [-]
The cops in my home town also think they are above the law. Although, I'd only support recording cops on the job if the majority of residents voted that they didn't trust the police.
#70 to #69 - wolvesbrickwall
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(08/02/2013) [-]
So just because some are cunts (there are cunts in every job), all of them deserve to be constantly watched? Why don't we just monitor everyone while they are working? That we if you **** up on the job, or do something wrong, the company has evidence to reasonably fire you.
#270 to #70 - rapsuskiller
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(08/02/2013) [-]
Some cops (and I say this from experiences told by people abused by the police in my country, Spain) can harm innocent people a lot, people that simply don´t deserve such punishment get police brutality from ************* who use their power to hurt a person, and most of them get away with it. They can even kill them. That isn´t so frecuent in every job.
It´s actually a very good idea to record policemen while on duty.

P.S: You can see videos of spanish manifestations in wich the cop tries to break the camera of the recorder (often using some excuse) so there isn´t any evidence of them abusing their power.
#312 to #270 - wolvesbrickwall
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(08/03/2013) [-]
Well than advertise that for the police officers of Spain. I'm assuming the main argument was referring to the U.S.
#320 to #312 - rapsuskiller
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(08/03/2013) [-]
I think this could be referring to any country, or the whole world.
#72 to #70 - oharo
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(08/02/2013) [-]
They aren't being watched, they're being recorded.
More often than not, it won't ever be seen. But if a citizen declares that the cop was out of line, they can investigate it. It's as much for the fair treatment of the people as the ease of the judicial system.
#73 to #72 - wolvesbrickwall
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(08/02/2013) [-]
Isn't that the same as the NSA "recording" what a citizen does? I mean most citizens are innocent, and anything recorded about them won't ever be seen.
#74 to #73 - oharo
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(08/02/2013) [-]
No, because everyone has a right to privacy.
Due to the power of being a police officer, and the potential for corruption, recording their actions *while on duty only* is justified imo.
#75 to #74 - wolvesbrickwall
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(08/02/2013) [-]
I think you're overestimating the power of a police officer. I'd rather the every action of Congressmen be watched than a cop, but i guess that's just a matter of opinion.
#78 to #75 - oharo
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(08/02/2013) [-]
Well I think both should.
You'd be surprised what a cop with low morals will do when they need to meet their quota. One pulled me over (I made a rolling stop, fair enough) and was adamant that I wasn't wearing my seat belt. It was only when I said that I'd contest that charge in court that the officer backed down.

Now, a camera wouldn't have helped there, but some people can be brutalized for no reason. The camera prevents that.
#79 to #78 - wolvesbrickwall
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(08/02/2013) [-]
I don't blame the cop for that. You think he likes being a dick? Maybe, maybe not. I'd blame his boss, the one telling him that if he doesn't bring in some more "revenue" by the end of the month than he'll be let go.
#82 to #79 - oharo
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(08/02/2013) [-]
Regardless for why the cops behave like they do, the camera prevents them from brutalizing citizens for no reason. That is why I'm in favor of it.
#83 to #82 - wolvesbrickwall
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(08/02/2013) [-]
I just don't think it's fair to the cops who do serve with honor and integrity. Well if it's ever to be it'll go through the public and voting and such, so it's up to the people.
#116 to #83 - oharo
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(08/02/2013) [-]
I agree that it sucks that honest cops would have to do it. But I still think the benefits outweigh that. But yes, it'd be down to the people's votes.

Anyways, it was nice to have a civil debate over something, man. Good talk.
-handshake-
#206 to #116 - wolvesbrickwall
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(08/02/2013) [-]
Agreed.

-handshake-
#53 to #31 - hatbraze
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(08/02/2013) [-]
Oh just shut the **** up. Yes, sure its a fine idea. Now lets record everything that citizens do at all times as well because everyone will think that idea is JUST as reasonable. Oh wait, the NSA did that and everyone flipped their **** because its a breach of privacy.
#62 to #53 - sorrybut
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(08/02/2013) [-]
Citizens aren't entrusted with guarding the lives of men and women around them. And it said active duty, not everyday life, so basically if they have nothing to hide, there should be no problem.
#54 to #53 - dapape
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(08/02/2013) [-]
What are you gonna do that would be fine in front of an officer but not in front of a camera?
#55 to #54 - hatbraze
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(08/02/2013) [-]
so you're ok with being recorded all the time you're at work?
#57 to #55 - dapape
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(08/02/2013) [-]
There aren't police at work.
#60 to #57 - hatbraze
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(08/02/2013) [-]
thats a double standard if you're saying ONLY police should have the camera at work. If you're gonna support it, imagine how it would be applied to you.
#63 to #60 - dapape
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(08/02/2013) [-]
...In that case, I already am being recorded at work. I work in a resaurant. There are camera's everywhere.
#35 to #31 - tazzerz
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(08/02/2013) [-]
Just a thought...Id love to see Go-Pro on serving men and women in Afghanistan, So they could get good quality documentaries from the Solider POV and not have civilian cameramen running about in a firefight and potentially hindering soldiers and reducing combat effectiveness also they could justify what was happen down there, (Or prove they done something wrong), and have proof to back it up.
#299 to #35 - MatthewsGauss
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(08/03/2013) [-]
U.S. Soldier Sprints Through Taliban Fire there is a youtube channel just for that
#571 to #299 - tazzerz
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(08/03/2013) [-]
Oh man, I love Funker been a subscriber for like 2 years now, but some of the footage is a bit blurry, And my little idea was inspired by a comment from one of his videos.
#92 to #35 - hisnameisjake
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(08/02/2013) [-]
I think they have a show like that, but I could be wrong. I cant remember the name either, sorry
#328 to #92 - fredthemilkman
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(08/03/2013) [-]
Eyewitness War, its on NatGeo
#572 to #328 - tazzerz
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(08/03/2013) [-]
Thanks ill look into it!
#198 to #92 - motherduck
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(08/02/2013) [-]
Yea they do have a show.Apparently loads of people in the military use them but only a few go public.
#33 to #31 - strangemoo
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(08/02/2013) [-]
Finally we could skip the month long trials because 'we don't have enough proof'.