Video Game Violence. Source: Penny Arcade. kills younger brother in video game " t? Haw about, " Parents Raise Stupid Kids.". media will blame as much as possible on video games
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User avatar #4 - redrex (07/31/2013) [-]
media will blame as much as possible on video games
User avatar #33 to #4 - dracomancer (07/31/2013) [-]
It's always the newest media form that gets blamed. The Secret Service shows that most of this kind of stuff (At least when it's intentional when you want to kill someone.) comes from people who prefer the media of reading and writing
User avatar #9 to #4 - thechosentroll (07/31/2013) [-]
Like they used to do on TV, music, cinema, drugs, hippies, new technology, the black plague, witches, trolls and wild animals.
User avatar #10 to #9 - thechosentroll (07/31/2013) [-]
Basically, everything and everyone but the parents.
User avatar #55 to #10 - dongers (07/31/2013) [-]
unless anyone is any other race than white, then it will be turned into a matter of if that has anything to do with it
#90 to #55 - anon (07/31/2013) [-]
But in reality it's only blacks, mexicans, and women.
User avatar #79 to #55 - lastkage (07/31/2013) [-]
yeah he said the black plague already
#82 to #79 - dongers (07/31/2013) [-]
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User avatar #93 to #9 - cabbagemayhem ONLINE (07/31/2013) [-]
How dare they blame the black plague!
#29 - apollyonyagami (07/31/2013) [-]
it was so nice when video-games weren't invented yet, there were no violent murders and crimes at all. Oh wait, that's not true.
#27 - orkanoidz ONLINE (07/31/2013) [-]
Western Media is so full of **** these days.
#57 to #27 - jazzytheferret (07/31/2013) [-]
Civilization 1
User avatar #94 to #57 - orkanoidz ONLINE (07/31/2013) [-]
CIV 1, The dirt browser style game of the late 2,300 B.C.
#14 - ncisagentgibbs **User deleted account** (07/31/2013) [-]
I was born in 1985, I have played every video game console available. Everything from puzzles to violent games. Never once have I even had a notion of thought, of an inkling, of an idea of repeating what I saw in those games.

Why do you ask?

A. My mother sat down and had a chat with me that these games were make believe and I shouldn't repeat anything that happens in them.
B. My father whipped my ass whenever I looked at him the wrong way.

Lesson #1: Parents need to start being parents again and stop letting society raise their kids for them.
Lesson #2: All of media need to grow some balls and start targeting bad parenting instead of quoting studies and listening to left wing liberal hippie crap.

Do the words common sense mean anything anymore???
User avatar #36 to #14 - garymotherfingoak (07/31/2013) [-]
they do, just the stupid are more apparent than the smart.
User avatar #56 to #14 - thedungeonmaster (07/31/2013) [-]
To answer that last line, no.
#103 to #14 - anon (07/31/2013) [-]
"B. My father w--"
Entirely unnecessary. And crap.
It's more effective to reward wanted behaviour than to punish unwanted behaviour.
User avatar #106 to #103 - godot (07/31/2013) [-]
I don't know man, I always knew what NOT to do when dad made that "Snap" noise with the belt.
User avatar #105 to #14 - godot (07/31/2013) [-]
The only thing I did from games as a kid was the walking while turning left/right mechanic in Resident evil 2, people who's played the game or have seen someone attempt to change directions in the game know what I mean, anyway, I stopped when dad said I looked like a retard doing it. True story.
User avatar #116 to #14 - yorker (08/01/2013) [-]
Wow. Someone against liberalism actually got POSITIVE thumbs. Good job, man.
User avatar #41 to #14 - lafuriaroja (07/31/2013) [-]
Your argument was great until you got to the stop "quoting studies" part. Studies are scientific and fact. I think it's stupid that people say video games cause violence, but it's not silly for a news station to quote a study. That sort of anti-intellectualism makes you sound like a dumbass.
#45 to #41 - nickmandemon (07/31/2013) [-]
Quoting a study that has nothing to do with the subject is stupid. That was his point. You failed to see that because you are also stupid.
User avatar #88 to #45 - lafuriaroja (07/31/2013) [-]
At no point in that comment did he say studies that have nothing to do with the subject. In no way, shape or form was that implied. Calling me stupid doesn't make your argument any more valid.
#92 to #88 - nickmandemon (07/31/2013) [-]
This whole post was about how video games don't have any connections to real life violence. Therefore, quoting a study on video games while reporting about real life violence is stupid. And calling it anti-intellectualism was just you being full of yourself. Its intellectualism because you agree with it? The comment was about how video games had nothing to do with real violence, and so you can infer that the studies he was talking about were the studies about video games. And I wasn't calling you stupid to validate my argument, I know I'm right. I was calling you stupid because you made an unintelligent comment.
User avatar #115 to #92 - lafuriaroja (08/01/2013) [-]
Calling it anti-intellectualism is not me being full of myself. I called it anti-intellectualism because the way that he PHRASED HIS COMMENT made it sound like studies are voodoo magic that should be avoided and have no real authority. That was the only thing I was arguing.
User avatar #60 to #14 - xsjrrubedo (07/31/2013) [-]
YES, YES, ALL OF THIS YES!

THIS QOUTE, "Lesson #2: All of media need to grow some balls and start targeting bad parenting instead of quoting studies and listening to left wing liberal hippie crap"

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!

and listening to left wing liberal hippie crap

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!
User avatar #64 to #60 - godhatesusall (07/31/2013) [-]
chill, mang
#73 to #14 - timmity ONLINE (07/31/2013) [-]
you had a horrid father
User avatar #24 to #14 - riddlerenigma (07/31/2013) [-]
The problem with that though however is that the media don't like video games. Why? because video games are next to taking the news/tv over. With the likes of the internet being around people no longer want to hear there news on TV and now they just look it up online. The news don't like this because it means they don't make any money from it. So what do they do. Bash any new form of media that comes round by slanting and making it look like the enemy.

But nothing I'm saying is factual but I believe that was what I heard.
User avatar #61 to #14 - EdwardNigma ONLINE (07/31/2013) [-]
I agree about raising them better, but I don't like the idea of beating children. Thats kind of harsh. The point is likely to get across with a talk or if they are a particularly ****** child, excessive yelling. Beating the child...not so much.
User avatar #107 to #61 - fukkendragonite (07/31/2013) [-]
My parents both hit me when I was being a little **** . Never hard enough to seriously do damage, and only once or twice leaving a mark. I remember once I was saying some pretty ******* vile things to my mum and she seriously twatted me around the face. She clearly didn't mean to hit me that hard and got caught in the moment of anger (but then she also never apologised and she didn't lose face. She carried on in the sort of "that's right you little **** , you deserve that" kind of way. That's the kind of woman she is).

Needless to say, I never said anything quite so harsh ever again. I respected that I needed the occasional slap. Don't think I'd ever do it to my kids (unless it was seriously necessary. And I don't have the kind of temper my mother does so I would make sure I was very controlled and knowing my own strength) but I know that they did the best they could. Especially considering the way my parents both grew up with their parents, I got off lightly. They should have both been warped by all accounts.
User avatar #96 to #61 - pimpinboobnugget (07/31/2013) [-]
Whenever I was being a little **** my father whipped my ass with a belt. It taught me that if I was ever a little **** again, it'd happen again. I play video games all the time and never do violent things. Sometimes you have to do what it takes.
#100 to #96 - anon (07/31/2013) [-]
That doesn't matter for **** .
I never had punishment like that and I still don't do violent things, but the people I know who were raised that way are violent ***** .

User avatar #70 to #61 - hotsaws (07/31/2013) [-]
Beating a child is wrong, always. So is screaming in the kids ear. Never an excuse. It's when people say a simple spank on the butt counts as "beating" that pisses me off. Parents should be parents again.
#101 to #70 - anon (07/31/2013) [-]
*Shrug* You can even just make them think you're going to spank them and instead smack your hand.
Worked on my sister.
User avatar #108 to #101 - hotsaws (07/31/2013) [-]
I guess that could work as well.
User avatar #72 to #70 - EdwardNigma ONLINE (07/31/2013) [-]
I dunno man, my father used to spank pretty hard.
I remember once he spanked me 3 times.
Really hard.
Enough to cause me to fall off a ******* bed.

I can understand light hitting, but when you hit your child so damn hard it's a wonder they don't fly across the room, then you can get ****** .
User avatar #76 to #72 - hotsaws (07/31/2013) [-]
But that can count as beating your child. Not hard enough to leave marks or make them cry harder, but enough for them to understand that there's consequences. My mom was like that. Never hard and only used when nothing else worked, like time-outs or having things taken. My dad has also spanked me, and hard enough to see his hand print on my ass, that's wrong.
User avatar #81 to #76 - EdwardNigma ONLINE (07/31/2013) [-]
Yeah, thats all well and good, but I find spanking to be the last resort.
My mother never hit me, only my father. And in several ways, it could have been worse. My mother managed to keep him from doing it often.
User avatar #84 to #81 - hotsaws (07/31/2013) [-]
It should be a last resort. Not daily, or even weekly thing. My father used the screaming thing more often than hitting, and I can tell you firsthand that's more traumatizing because you fear he'll do worse than spanking. Whoever said words can't hurt was a ******* liar.
User avatar #85 to #84 - EdwardNigma ONLINE (07/31/2013) [-]
As a kid, words are scary **** at certain times.
But now, I don't care so much, theres little words can do to me now. I learned 2 things from Game of Thrones.

One: Words are wind.
And two: Words that rhyme with "Reek"
User avatar #87 to #85 - hotsaws (07/31/2013) [-]
And that's good. Everyone should learn from there parents. Whether it's what to do, or what to definitely not do.
User avatar #38 to #14 - erpetrich (07/31/2013) [-]
Wait, what left wing hippie crap? All the people that I've that outright blame videograms are Conservatives and generally older generations that never even touched a videogame.
User avatar #63 to #38 - xsjrrubedo (07/31/2013) [-]
of course a liberal would say that, liberals are just ******* bleeding heart idiots. Untill your god; Obama, stops ******* sending 10% of my paycheck to some ******* black guy who broke his pinky and filed for obama care; who is just sitting at home ******* some white bitch, Stops, there will always be some ******* liberal who will blame it on the media, just like 80% of our nations black teens play cod, and every fps and degenerates Gaming, Gaming cant even be something im proud of because some phanact whereing a snapback, swag shirt, kicks, and ghetto pants calls himself a gamer; **** it makes me want to through up when i call myself a gamer! and this is all the liberals fault, because we live in a liberal society where people think that facebook, and twitter is life, and that we can be lazy and do whatever the **** they want!

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK!
User avatar #118 to #63 - erpetrich (08/01/2013) [-]
That rant was so stupid, it cannot be dignified with a proper response, it sounds like a carzy old man mumbling to himself on the train.
User avatar #54 to #14 - infiniteduress (07/31/2013) [-]
fear mongering happens in all areas of the news, not just the liberal portions.

Other than that you are dead right.
#40 to #14 - Jameshaich (07/31/2013) [-]
I didn't get talks about violent video games, my older brother got them all and nothing was said to me.
I just don't feel like killing people because i seen somebody do it on the screen.
User avatar #102 to #14 - linktheherooftime (07/31/2013) [-]
I just want to point out that not all liberals are like that, but I also agree that parents need to be parents and point out that that **** isn't real.
#18 to #14 - Slicernicer (07/31/2013) [-]
Spare the rod, spoil the child
User avatar #22 to #18 - rokulda (07/31/2013) [-]
Spoil the spare, rod the child
User avatar #7 - matralith (07/31/2013) [-]
That's one angry toaster.
#69 - yourbed (07/31/2013) [-]
Has violent video games become an issue agian?
User avatar #71 to #69 - sparkyoneonetwo (07/31/2013) [-]
when has it stopped??
User avatar #74 to #71 - yourbed (07/31/2013) [-]
I thought it was over when Jack Thompson quit the lawyer buisness.
User avatar #75 to #74 - sparkyoneonetwo (07/31/2013) [-]
untill people man the **** up and start blaming parents it will never fully be over.
User avatar #78 to #75 - yourbed (07/31/2013) [-]
I see.
User avatar #80 to #78 - sparkyoneonetwo (07/31/2013) [-]
like not to long ago there was a small protest out side my town because GTA 5 looks to violent for kids to play..... it's rated ******* M it's not meant for kids...
#52 - europe (07/31/2013) [-]
Now THAT's an article that I would read
User avatar #30 to #28 - ghirahn ONLINE (07/31/2013) [-]
hell yes
User avatar #1 - Mortuus (07/30/2013) [-]
Here's my hypothesis: Due to the amount of hate that we place upon idiot parents, this generation might have a chance to observe how not to go about raising ********* . If that actually happens, we'll have the internet to thank for providing us the ability to spread propaganda such as this.

Note: I use propaganda in the nicest possible way.
#2 to #1 - anon (07/31/2013) [-]
I have to agree, my parents were not the best. And all the knowledge I have gained from watching F**k-up parents over the internet is one day going to make my parenting WAY better and easier.
User avatar #3 to #2 - Mortuus (07/31/2013) [-]
I cannot tell if that's sarcasm or not.
User avatar #11 to #3 - ilcecchino (07/31/2013) [-]
it's not. cause i can agree with his statement
#23 to #11 - anon (07/31/2013) [-]
For clarity, no it was not sarcasm.
#66 - yuukoku (07/31/2013) [-]
They never wanna blame the parents. It's easier to blame video games.    
   
I don't think anybody knows much about this, but my grandmother had a laugh with me when she told me about how when she was a kid, children were jumping out windows because they thought they could fly after hearing the story of Peter Pan and they blamed Peter Pan for that.    
   
What it essentially comes down to is either children being extremely 			*******		 stupid and/or parents who just don't care. If the parents are there, they can be the voice of reason and let the kids know that it's all just a cartoon or that fighting or life doesn't work that way. It doesn't take much. Just keep them close to reality. There's going to be a number of kids that believe anything, but if you keep them close to reality, they'll be smarter about it.
They never wanna blame the parents. It's easier to blame video games.

I don't think anybody knows much about this, but my grandmother had a laugh with me when she told me about how when she was a kid, children were jumping out windows because they thought they could fly after hearing the story of Peter Pan and they blamed Peter Pan for that.

What it essentially comes down to is either children being extremely ******* stupid and/or parents who just don't care. If the parents are there, they can be the voice of reason and let the kids know that it's all just a cartoon or that fighting or life doesn't work that way. It doesn't take much. Just keep them close to reality. There's going to be a number of kids that believe anything, but if you keep them close to reality, they'll be smarter about it.
#89 to #66 - dontknowmeatall (07/31/2013) [-]
Kids were stupid. The tale clearly states that you can't fly without fairy dust.
User avatar #98 to #89 - yuukoku (07/31/2013) [-]
Yeah! I know! Kids are ******* stupid!
#91 - anon (07/31/2013) [-]
video gaems cauyzed 9/11 and world war 2 and the extincton of the dinosayers HOW CAN YOU NOT SEY THESE
User avatar #111 to #91 - mrnotsosafeforwork (07/31/2013) [-]
Fox News in a nutshell
User avatar #97 to #91 - elcreepo (07/31/2013) [-]
I love you sarcastic anon <3
User avatar #86 - zeroxnight (07/31/2013) [-]
People have to stop blaming video games. ****** parents are why kids do dumbass things
User avatar #5 - niggernazi (07/31/2013) [-]
why the **** is the toaster alive?
#39 to #5 - unlimitedsmoof (07/31/2013) [-]
That's not a toaster, that's a Divx player. It's been around since early comic strips of Penny Arcade
User avatar #6 to #5 - willindor (07/31/2013) [-]
You should be afraid! He is the scourge of all small appliances and the boogeyman that keeps lesser toasters awake at night!
#8 to #6 - hargleblarg (07/31/2013) [-]
I...
I got that reference
#20 to #8 - drmedic ONLINE (07/31/2013) [-]
Judging that his avatar is yes man...
His face man...he just stares at you, smiling
Each time i ******* face him i fear that he goes into an uncontrollable rage and decapitate me
#67 to #20 - godhatesusall (07/31/2013) [-]
Hi! Hello there! How are you doing today?
User avatar #17 to #8 - theugandanhero (07/31/2013) [-]
The toaster was my favorite character throughout that entire DLC.
Also, I was under the impression that he was voiced by Seth Rogan.
User avatar #21 to #17 - lorkhan (07/31/2013) [-]
My favorite Doctor was Doctor Dala, my favorite furnish was the the seed station thing. Old world Blues is my favorite DLC in New Vegas.
#43 to #6 - killerblue (07/31/2013) [-]
Old world blues , I love you
User avatar #37 to #6 - fizzor (07/31/2013) [-]
**** yes, Old World Blues.
#49 - capricore ONLINE (07/31/2013) [-]
Being playing violent games from my child-hood.

Don't be serious.
Reality is a bitch....and if you upset her, she will condemn or kill you.You can stand up to her.
Fiction is a lover who will do anything to please you.But you must understand,she won't be yours.Don't chase her.
And dreams...she will be your fantasy and nightmare.
User avatar #62 to #49 - sanguinesolitude ONLINE (07/31/2013) [-]
I don't always try to be profound, but when i do, i form barely coherent sentences.
User avatar #117 to #62 - capricore ONLINE (08/01/2013) [-]
Well excuuuuuuse me.

Side effects from not coming from a english speaking country and minor intoxication.
User avatar #119 to #117 - sanguinesolitude ONLINE (08/01/2013) [-]
fair enough
#19 - fogglebeast (07/31/2013) [-]
I've always thought that blaming parents is an easy way out. Indeed, it'll be their fault sometimes, but the kid makes their own decisions in the end. If a kid does something retarded utilising their own free will, how can a parent be blamed? It's not as though they told the child to get themselves blown-up or anything.

Also, it is rather rediculous how the actual video game can be blamed for violent behaviour. If a non-violent child plays the same game as a violent child, and the violent child ends up 'imitating' the game's utter evilness, isn't it possible that it was just the kid doing stupid stuff and the game was liked by them because it was also violent?
User avatar #46 to #19 - DoggyBouncer (07/31/2013) [-]
Blaming the video game is the easy way out. Since when do video game company's promote violent games towards children? Parents are the ones that buy the video games for their children and therefore are responsible of that child's actions. The parents should be smart enough and not buy their 12 year-old GTA so they can run around, blow **** up, and kill hookers. Children are supposed to be playing games that enhance brain function and not something that they don't even understand the concept of. It's mainly the parents fault but I do agree on the child's psychology beforehand.
User avatar #83 to #19 - TheMather ONLINE (07/31/2013) [-]
The children may make their own decisions, but it's the parents' job to make sure the children are educated enough to make the right decision. You can't expect someone to make the right decision when they have no basis for making it.
Like if the parents never tell the child that the stove plate is hot, how would they know not to touch it before they've already made the mistake of doing so?
#113 to #19 - usaisnotamerica (07/31/2013) [-]
No, but if you raise a child well, he will stay that way for most parts.
User avatar #51 to #19 - heartlessrobot (07/31/2013) [-]
Don't blame the parents, don't blame the videogame, blame the little ****** that put lit firecrackers in the neighbors mailbox, they did it, not the parents. Unless the parents did it too. But whatever the little **** does is his/her own doing.
User avatar #15 - thewinkster (07/31/2013) [-]
I think video games have made me morally into a better person. If you have ever once played a game like spec ops the line or the last of us it really puts things into perspective. I never wanted to kill other people but in a game like spec ops where your forced to. I....I just couldn't cope with what happens. These games. They have really taught me stuff I wouldn't normally understand without experience them. I learned colors from super mario world as a kid. And I learned the true horrors of war and violence as a adult.
User avatar #26 to #15 - fuzzyballs (07/31/2013) [-]
nobody forced you to do anything in spec ops, the line
example 1: when you find out about the CIA guy, and he goes down a rope while pointing a gun at you, it's optional for you to shoot
example 2: when the bad guy tells you to kill the citizen of soldier, you can just kill the snipers on the ridge
example 3: there are like 4 choices in the end
User avatar #68 to #26 - thewinkster (07/31/2013) [-]
are we forgetting. Leaving a body to burn alive. Or shooting him in the head. How about. the napalm seen?
#16 to #15 - teenytinyspider (07/31/2013) [-]
Yeah, I just recently picked up L.A. Noire and while most people are able to turn off the moral aspects of the game, I got into it, like you're supposed to. My dad was once a cop, so this gave me somewhat of an insight to what he had to go through. Albeit, shootouts didn't happen every day like in the game, but when I first had to shut a suspect, I actually looked up on the internet to see if there was a way to avoid it. That grim look on the characters' faces as the body was being taken away just killed me. I can't imagine what cops, well, the GOOD ones, have to go through when they do have to kill someone, in order to save themselves, so they can return home to their families.
User avatar #112 to #15 - newsuperyoshi (07/31/2013) [-]
Dishonored, I saw what going arround, killing, did. Wanted the ending where the plage ended and knew it wasn't everyone's fault they thought I was evil. Non leathally elimanated everyone. Game was rated M.

Problem, government?
User avatar #114 to #112 - thewinkster (07/31/2013) [-]
Metro last light. A game about humanity admiring the last moments of there race. By killing each other. I only killed a few people in the game. The one's I had to. I wasn't even aware of a different ending. When I was given a choice to kill a rather.......Well. A friend. I didn't. I wasn't ready to give up. The game had given me a message. A message about humanity.

Problem, Government?
#25 - yougotbuuurrrnneed (07/31/2013) [-]
lolz XD
#42 to #25 - A Pickle (07/31/2013) [-]
le XD faec
User avatar #110 - thebrownydestroyer **User deleted account** (07/31/2013) [-]
I guess playing video games could induce minor violent thoughts. If you play games long enough (especially ones with scenery such as Skyrim or some **** ) you start to realize that the real world really isn't that much of a great place, you notice all the grassy, pretty fields are gone or getting built upon and the majestic, quiet forests that so interested you are being chopped down for cheap lumber or paper. When you realize that people aren't as friendly or as sociable as in your game you might start to grow a hatred for the human race and may go as far as a killing one day. But this is all a guess and I may be talking **** .
#104 - joethebeast (07/31/2013) [-]
why do people keep bringing up these cliche arguments...
why do people keep bringing up these cliche arguments...
User avatar #109 to #104 - godot (07/31/2013) [-]
It's like unrelated MLP arguments in youtube comments, they never seem to die.
User avatar #95 - elcreepo (07/31/2013) [-]
It's all about teaching kids the difference between reality and fantasy. Let them know that while in the game it's okay to be shooting people because they are not really people, but that outside of the game it's not okay because those really are people, and there are consequences.

I don't think most kids should be playing M rated games until they're at least 16 though. It's hard to teach a 6 year old the difference between TV and real life, let alone a game and real life.
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