Good Guy Pope. . IF SIMMERING IS MY, FIJI! m WEI]. I'm probably going to get voted down for mentioning this, because every time I make a comment on this site that isn't anti-gay, I do. But whatever. Regardless o Good guy pope meme
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#6 - nylak (07/29/2013) [-]
I'm probably going to get voted down for mentioning this, because every time I make a comment on this site that isn't anti-gay, I do. But whatever.

Regardless of the recent media release (that was most likely designed to improve his appeal in this particular area of his PR), Pope Francis is pretty well known for being a traditional Catholic in terms of his views on homosexuality. He's always spoken out vocally against same-sex partnerships and, of course, marriages and civil unions in particular, referring to the concept as “a scheme to destroy God’s plan” and “a real and dire anthropological throwback.” In line with the Catholic church's strong stance against homosexuals adopting children and raising families, he's even asserted that allowing gay couples to have kids is "discrimination against children."

Even this quote is taken out of context. He still does not condone homosexuals acting on their sexuality, and expressed that a "gay priest" was only acceptable if "he searches for the Lord and has good will," which, of course, means to suppress their sexuality and work to change his ways and improve himself in the eyes of the church.

So, yes, of course gays are fine. They just need to accept God into their life, and stop ******* being gay! Then it's all good!
User avatar #21 to #6 - gunslayer (07/30/2013) [-]
If everyone in the world was hetero and all of them had sex the world would overpopulate. I don't think homosexuality is a sin in any way.
User avatar #501 to #21 - wisdombranch (07/30/2013) [-]
[Global] Overpopulation is an illusion generated by the fear of unsustainable consumption of resources.

Can we grow the population to a sustainable 20,000,000,000 people?
Yes, duh.
At the moment, are we using methods which would allow us to support and sustain a population of 6,000,000,000?
Hell naw!
User avatar #85 to #6 - YllekNayr (07/30/2013) [-]
Honestly all of his most recent PR stunts are due to the fact that the Catholic church finally had to disclose those documents about pedophilia in the church and the coverups for the priests.
#91 to #85 - nylak (07/30/2013) [-]
And I definitely don't envy him, coming into office right when that tasty little morsel of 			****		 hits the media fan.  I don't at all doubt that he's scrambling to cover his ass and be as inoffensive as possible in all of his press releases.   
   
That said, if he's not going to take a goddamned stand and "judge" (or at least genuinely and formally speak out against, or at the very least acknowledge) the pedophilic priests, then he really has no place to judge the gay ones either.  So, yeah, he's 			*******		 right.   
   
			****		 politicized Catholicism, I'm out.  That 			******		 messed up.
And I definitely don't envy him, coming into office right when that tasty little morsel of **** hits the media fan. I don't at all doubt that he's scrambling to cover his ass and be as inoffensive as possible in all of his press releases.

That said, if he's not going to take a goddamned stand and "judge" (or at least genuinely and formally speak out against, or at the very least acknowledge) the pedophilic priests, then he really has no place to judge the gay ones either. So, yeah, he's ******* right.

**** politicized Catholicism, I'm out. That ****** messed up.
#287 to #6 - anon (07/30/2013) [-]
well how would he else become the pope if he didn't agree with those who where supposed to select him?

In my opinion he just cheated the system to change it.
#533 to #6 - anon (07/30/2013) [-]
Catholic Priests aren't supposed to have sex anyway whether they are gay or straight so either way a priest is keeping his sexuality down.
#29 to #6 - delicioso (07/30/2013) [-]
Correct me if I'm wrong...

But why can't gays and lesbians follow the lord? Being homosexual is a sin, right? So if homosexuals can't be christian/catholic/whatever then that manes anyone who sins can't be christian/catholic/whatever.
User avatar #34 to #29 - nylak (07/30/2013) [-]
Here's my take on this, since it actually comes up often in my circle of acquaintances.

Basically, "following the lord" in this sense means accepting that you have sinned, regretting it, and asking forgiveness. Let's say you commit a murder, which is also, obviously, a sin. You feel bad, because killing people is clearly bad, so you ask the lord to forgive you, because you genuinely regret that you killed this person, and accept that it was wrong for you to have done so. You have no desire to kill again, because this is against God's will, and you have bettered yourself as one of God's followers. He forgives you, and all is good.

Now, let's say that you are a gay man. You have always been gay; it is in your nature. God designed you to be this way since birth. You are in a long-term monogamous relationship with another man, who you love and have raised a child with. Perhaps you're even married, depending on where you live and whether or not this is legal. For you to "follow the lord" in this example, you must admit that loving your husband is wrong, and that you genuinely, with all of your heart, regret that you love him. It is a sin for you to love him. It is a sin to have a family with him. So you break up with him, never engage another man in a romantic or sexual relationship, and give up your "homosexual tendencies." God forgives you, and all is good.

It's quite difficult for most homosexuals to admit that loving their partner is genuinely a sin, and it is far more difficult to genuinely regret it.
#38 to #34 - delicioso (07/30/2013) [-]
Well that makes sense.
User avatar #204 to #6 - reretzu (07/30/2013) [-]
I don't remember his exact wording, but he did also say that gays shouldn't be allowed to express their sexuality or talk about it, partially because that would, according to him, be speaking against society.
It was something along those lines.
User avatar #498 to #6 - wisdombranch (07/30/2013) [-]
His words "and searches for the Lord and has goodwill" is essentially a religious Catch-22. [in the mind of the church, if the gays search for God, He will ...relieve... them of their gayness.]

And the "Who am I to judge"--well, that is a general statement of the new testament, explained in the gospel of John, chapter 8. Man cannot judge man. Period. God WILL judge man, but that is between the man and God.

To Judge--outside of rules of God--is to play God.

So according to the word of God, all in all, you can condemn someone as an asshole for cheating on their spouse, but not for being gay.
#568 to #6 - hazellekat (07/31/2013) [-]
The new pope sounds like an undercover douche...
#8 to #6 - darwinw (07/29/2013) [-]
This is all true, except the Catholic church has desire for people to stop being gay. The only problem the church has, is with the physical act of homosexual sexual relations. The church is also against straight sexual relations unless in marriage. So there is no more discrimination towards gay couples than there is to straight couples in terms of sex when unmarried. Now as the church teaches that marriage must be between a man and a woman, then obviously homosexual sexual relations are never condoned.

I have a problem when people come out with the argument, "Why would God be against Love, any kind of love". From a Catholic standpoint it is perfectly fine for two men or two women to love each other. It is only the physical sexual side of the relationship which is "not allowed".

There is so much misinformation being passed around the internet and the media about Catholic views. It paints the Church as something hateful, which I find absurb. The Church is the teacher of unconditional love.
User avatar #10 to #8 - nylak (07/29/2013) [-]
So they can't have sex if they're not married, but they're not allowed to marry so that they could have sex without sin.

And this...this is okay, and makes sense to y'all?
User avatar #350 to #10 - ninjaspartan ONLINE (07/30/2013) [-]
Those rules only apply between a man and a woman. Hence part of the reason Catholics are so stout to defend the title of marriage as the sole act. Between a man and a man its a completely different ball game, something that lots of people tend to confuse with the original laws.
User avatar #16 to #6 - Hreidmar (07/30/2013) [-]
Well here's my view on it. Even though this new papacy isn't exactly an equal rights wet dream, and still hold some views that are obsolete from a social point of view, it's a massive improvement on the last one. Not so long ago, homosexuals were regarded as vile sinners headed straight for hell. Now it's just looked at as an unfortunate circumstance which, while regrettable, doesn't necessarily stop them from being a good person. That is getting close to being radically progressive (much as I hate that word) for the Catholic church.

TLR: Something better than nothing.
User avatar #17 to #16 - Hreidmar (07/30/2013) [-]
I sincerely apologize for the abominable thing at the bottom. I had meant to type TL,DR.
User avatar #31 to #16 - nylak (07/30/2013) [-]
I totally agree with your comment, and am honestly kind of fine with that. I am clearly not a Catholic, but to me personally Francis certainly seems an improvement in many areas of the papacy.

I'm obviously not expecting any pope to suddenly start donning rainbow-coloured garments and dance gaily in Pridefest (because then the universe might implode). I just hate it when everyone asserts that this new brand of Catholic-flavoured religious intolerance is a breath of fresh air that loves everyone, regardless of their sexual orientation or whatever other sins they choose to partake in. Because, of course, he's not. It goes with the territory.
User avatar #321 to #31 - snowshark (07/30/2013) [-]
I'll say this much too, it is not impossible for a man to change. Wether he is doing it for public opinion or he has actually had a change of heart or maybe he just said those things so that he could rise the level of papacy and have power to change things, each way is a marked improvement on old Benedict (who was in charge of the still very much alive, but definitely different Papal Inquisition... the one that inspired the Spanish one.)

Point is, I would rather think the best of this pope than the worst because frankly it helps to be a sceptic optimist.
#449 - rockstarownage (07/30/2013) [-]
im gonna get so thumb downed for this and im prepared
but this is why im getting sick of funnyjunk, ever since i've been here (i dont know how many years) i would have a good time looking through the comments section of any post and most of the time they would make me laugh more than the post

but then this ******** here, it seems like no matter what post theres always some sort of ********* in the comments section and im sick of going into comments and seeing a bunch of ******** , bitch people arguing over stuff they know nothing about, can't we all just be decent and enjoy the site and be funny again? but no instead, funnyjunk has turned into a bandwagoning political religious arguement in practically ever posts comment, no matter how far from relevent it is to a post.

you tell me yes i can just go to a different website and gtfo, but i've been a part of this community for over 6 years (since yellow fj) and i've enjoyed it until just recently (about a year ago or so) and i still browse for the posts, but the community is a bunch of assholes. if theres a heartfelt post, someones complaining its not funny, if its funny someone says its a repost. and then theres these assholes spamming or people complaining and arguing.


and yes i could gtfo, but i've tried reddit, and if it were more convinient (i.e. scrolling through pictures using only arrow keys) i would be there, and if it wasnt for all the people posting artsy **** .

what the **** is wrong with you people now.

tl;dr, just thumb me down. im ready for it.

#469 to #449 - rasrors (07/30/2013) [-]
Good on ye'. Let deceny and funny comments become part of FJ once again!
#472 to #449 - rockstarownage (07/30/2013) [-]
also i forgot to add, but posting comments is getting increasingly difficult because you people are assholes, i've seen so many funny comments that people thumbed down basically because there was some kind of ********* started by it, or simply because people saw a red thumb and wanted to join in the downthumbing
#457 to #449 - kolpster (07/30/2013) [-]
I agree.
TL;DR his post, give the man a thumb.
#460 to #457 - rockstarownage (07/30/2013) [-]
well than you my good man, at least someone has some decency
User avatar #462 to #460 - kolpster (07/30/2013) [-]
Why thank you, kind sir.
#554 to #457 - anon (07/30/2013) [-]
No, he's got a stick up HIS ass while complaining about too many people having a stick up their ass.
#53 - satnaam (07/30/2013) [-]
**satnaam rolls 653**

MY CONFESSION

I'm Straight. And I find gay sex gross.

(But All of this Pro gay stuff is being jammed down my throat that if I say i dont care what the gay's do or if I find gay sex gross then I risk being called a "hate monger" by everyone.)
User avatar #428 to #53 - corruptdog (07/30/2013) [-]
I'm pretty sure gay people find straight sex gross
#491 to #53 - occamsrazor (07/30/2013) [-]
How is this a controversial stance, if you found gay sex attractive you'd be gay
User avatar #511 to #53 - gobnick (07/30/2013) [-]
dude, totally fine to not find gay sex appealing, but when you totally discredit a gay person as a human being, that's when you're crossing the line. you and i are on the same page man, they can do whatever the hell they want, i just sure as **** would not want to be in audience.
#170 to #53 - pappathethird (07/30/2013) [-]
Yes, but the question is: Do you not care that gays can't get married? Cause that's something else than saying you don't care what they do. Also, why would you say you find gay sex gross? Did anyone ever ask you?
Yes, but the question is: Do you not care that gays can't get married? Cause that's something else than saying you don't care what they do. Also, why would you say you find gay sex gross? Did anyone ever ask you?
User avatar #65 to #53 - ravarshi (07/30/2013) [-]
just be glad it's not gay men ramming their cocks in your throat.. deal with the fact you find it disgusting within yourself. You're not a hate monger, we all deal with our own issues personally, and saying you find gay sex unattractive or gross doesn't make you any less of a person, but in the future, probably word it Unattractive instead of gross. You'll get a lot less hate that way.

Do you find anal sex with women okay? because to be honest aside from "hair and manbits" it's no different.
User avatar #68 to #53 - syrenthra (07/30/2013) [-]
well if you are straight then it is pretty much normal for you to think it is gross but what pro gay is fighting for is the recognition that they are people, who want to be able to have the same kind of legal relationship that straight people have even though they do it in the butt.
TL;DR As long as you don't go against allowing them to have the same rights as straight then don't worry about being called something
User avatar #316 to #53 - EdwardNigma (07/30/2013) [-]
I find gay sex gross too. Because I'm straight and gay sex isn't exactly my preference.

This doesn't seem like a confession, more like an obvious fact. I believe in equality for gays and all that **** , that doesn't mean I have to find gay sex attractive.
#289 to #53 - anon (07/30/2013) [-]
> jammed down my throat

nice one
User avatar #478 to #53 - undeadwill (07/30/2013) [-]
If you are straight you should find gay sex gross.

Unless you are OP.
User avatar #205 to #53 - pewo (07/30/2013) [-]
MY CONFESSION

I'm gay. And I find straight sex gross.

(But all of this pro straight stuff has been jammed down my ******* throat for 20 years of my life)

Now I'm not one to preach what rights I have and don't have, I can't help who I am.
But consider this, you're walking down the street with your partner holding hands and for no ******* reason you get abuse hurtled at you because you can't help who you are? Or worse you get the **** kicked out of you, for loving someone?

This is why we have gay rights activist, gay pride and events along this line. In most parts of the world its still illegal to be gay, which is horrible because you can't help who you are.

You say you find gay sex gross, how about lesbians - just because they're women doesn't mean it isn't gay.

It isn't forcing things down your throat, after all we aren't a religion, we aren't trying to convert people. Just open peoples mind.

(I is ready for teh sea of red.)
#438 to #205 - anon (07/30/2013) [-]
It may not be a religion, but people sure do act like it. Honestly, the world would be a better, less annoying place if everyone - straight and gay - just shut up about their sexual preference. Nobody else needs to know except for your partner/spouse/whatever. I don't understand why people care what other peoples' sexual preferences are. Unless you're trying to have sex with them, it doesn't matter.

I don't agree with how homosexuals are treated, but the extremists sometimes seem like they want people to treat them badly. Also, there are some people whose minds cannot be opened/broadened. Instead of trying to convince them over and over again, just let it go. That's what extremists need to learn. They're trying to convert everyone to their way of thinking and it's just not going to happen.
User avatar #396 to #205 - Fgner (07/30/2013) [-]
1) I think that's exactly how it should be. Why do you think we are gay/straight. If you like both, it tends to mean you're more bi or pan.

2) There isn't pro-straight stuff, buddy. It's the norm. That's like a handicap guy saying "I keep having other people being able to walk shoved down my throat!" Just because it's normal to be able to walk - doesn't mean we're rubbing it in their faces or forcing them to love us or something. We just do how we do. And the media do how most people do. And businesses usually cater to what most people do. So it's not shoving it down your throat - it's us living our lives as usual. Sorry that it bothers you so much.

3) There is a .0000001% of Western population that would ever do that. Even less. We're seeing a decline of the Church, decline of anti-campaigns, and an exponential rise in acceptance and such. I have never even once witnessed (in person - the internet brings out the worst in people) a single act of discrimination towards gays. And my ex and I would go out with my gay best friend and his boyfriend quite often.

4) It's a shame. Why don't you go over there and try to reason with them? The west has become acceptant. That's all we can offer you - OUR acceptance. We can't offer you theirs. They are still stuck in ******* Medieval times - stoning women who are raped, killing children for stealing bread, slaughtering ambassadors, killing in the name of some dumb ass strip of land or even religion.

Of course, it's far less than most these days. Westernization has done more than you think. While it's still illegal to get married as gays, that doesn't count as basic acceptance.

5) Straight males find lesbians hot because they like pussy. Straight females may find gay males hot because they like dick. That's common ******* sense. It's not that it's gay, it's the distinct lack of the desired genitals. And some people do find opposite sex homosexuality gross. Plenty.
User avatar #476 to #53 - whipptron (07/30/2013) [-]
I'm a guy with a boyfriend. It's fine to find gay sex Gross. You don't have to have gay Sex, no one is forcing you.
That doesn't make you a hate monger, as long as you are okay with gay people being gay, then gay people, I think, will be okay with you being straight.
#362 to #53 - marcalo (07/30/2013) [-]
Yeah, I get what you mean. If you don't have a politically correct opinion people just start hating you and tell you to **** off.
#496 to #53 - IamSofaKingdom (07/30/2013) [-]
Welcome to the gay agenda as it slowly turns into the new feminism movement or PETA; something good that got abused.
User avatar #286 to #53 - willisteal (07/30/2013) [-]
Well I for one think straight sex is disgusting, and live in a world where that is the accepted norm and is shoved down my throat but I don't say to people like an asshole, like you.
User avatar #387 to #286 - Fgner (07/30/2013) [-]
1) Hetersexuality is by far the norm. It always has been and always will be. It really is the normal thing. No offense is meant by that. And eventually, when sexuality no longer matters because we're space-robot-people - pansexuality will be the norm.

2) Shoved down your throat? Er - no. That's like a handicap guy saying that people keep shoving their legs down their throats.

3) Why so damn offensive?
User avatar #391 to #387 - willisteal (07/30/2013) [-]
People in my area telling me that I need to find a girlfriend constantly or making remarks about women's breasts as if I give a **** , IS shoving it down my throat. Practically everyone I meet wants me to "get a girlfriend". I'm gay, women do not and never have given me a boner.
User avatar #402 to #391 - Fgner (07/30/2013) [-]
You could do this: "Hey guys, I'm gay."

Then girlfriend changes to boyfriend (or nothing at all), and you'll be left out of those terrible, heart wrenching conversations about boobs (but who the **** doesn't love boobs - even if just because they're boobs and not due to sex appeal. They're squishy and **** , dude!).
User avatar #403 to #402 - willisteal (07/30/2013) [-]
Who the **** doesn't like big bubble hairy man butt, I mean, they're all squishy and hairy ...dude
User avatar #410 to #403 - Fgner (07/30/2013) [-]
Stop being a jackass about a playful joke.

And a shaved man butt would be as fun as boobs - if not for the asshole betwixt the cheeks. I prefer my jigglies without odors.
User avatar #414 to #410 - willisteal (07/30/2013) [-]
Playful joking leads to bullying, jackass

And I never "play" with something that hasn't been cleaned. Vaginas can smell too, I have sisters! *coughs*
User avatar #417 to #414 - Fgner (07/30/2013) [-]
> And religion always leads to suicide bombing. I guess I can never tell a single joke ever again since it all leads to bullying in the end!

> We're talking about boobs (or shaven asshole-less man butts) - not vaginas? I know you don't have the hots for them, so why would I bring 'em up?
User avatar #420 to #417 - willisteal (07/30/2013) [-]
Because you were implying that the sexual parts of a woman were better because they don't smell, which when unwashed they do smell, and I do believe that religion leads mostly to bad things, and charity and a sense of morality can exist without religion and before you ask why did I change the subject, you mentioned religion.
User avatar #425 to #420 - Fgner (07/30/2013) [-]
> No. I was definitely not. I gave you a suggestion to solve your "problem", and then made a comment about tits being fun just because they're bags of fat, even if you don't like their sexual aspect. You brought up dude butts being essentially the same thing - and I said shaven dude butts would be way more fun if they didn't have an asshole between them being a - well - asshole. Then you randomly brought up vaginas smelling?

> When unwashed everything smells.

> It was a hyperbole. I'm non-religious (I just don't care about it - I'm not atheist nor theist) as well, but I'm not ignorant enough to say religion only leads to bad things. In the modern world nobody does anything about their faith anyway, so in reality it doesn't do anything but comfort them about life and death. And if they want to believe in something, who are we to judge them for it.

> You're kind of an asshole.
User avatar #431 to #425 - willisteal (07/30/2013) [-]
Wow, twisting my words are you, and you say I'm the asshole?! I said religion MOSTLY leads to bad things because historically it does, and secondly, I have no problem with a persons personal beliefs as long as they do not force them on me which is my problem, and you did not help at all, so you're getting no credit, telling people that I'm gay is not easy especially considering I live in a homophobic rural area. I could get beaten up for coming out here, so don't even try to argue equality, you don't know what it is like.
#521 to #431 - Fgner (07/30/2013) [-]
1) Didn't twist anything. I used one incorrect word - I'll change it. "but I'm not ignorant enough to say religion mostly leads to bad things." Historically you only know about tragedies, apparently.

Religion is not good nor is it bad. It's just a tool, and what people do with that tool decides it's affiliation. If I kill someone with a chainsaw you can't blame the chainsaw - it doesn't have a choice in the matter. There are equal occurrences of religion being very good, very bad, and very whatever. And don't blame the Crusades or Medieval ages on religion (the two biggest targets). Religion was prevalent, but definitely not near the cause.

2) Nobodies forcing anything on you right now.

3) Come out - if they beat you up, press charges. If the local court shows bias, appeal to a higher court. You bet your ass you'll win in the modern society. Hate crimes are a pretty big deal now.

If you don't want to do that, then stop bitching. You have the tools and society are your disposal to do exactly what you want. Sure you might have to get beaten up, maybe move. But doesn't that beat the living Hell out of lying to everyone and putting up with **** ? And you'll make the world a bit better in the process!

Plus, if your friends alienate you for being you, why the Hell do you want to be friends anyway? There are plenty of people who wouldn't be like that.

4) I live in the KKK capital of my state. I know a bit about hate and racism and such. Yet one of my best friends is still gay, and my fiance is bi and had absolutely nobody on their case when they came out.

Pic because we haven't been using any.
#558 to #521 - willisteal (07/30/2013) [-]
Ok, I'll agree with some of your points, and we can agree to disagree on some of the points, and as for the ones concerning religion, one last thing, I watched a documentary about homophobia in Uganda which showed that the youth of the main city believed that homosexuality was wrong solely based on what they had learned from the bible. When there is no separation of church and state religion does bad things when used as a tool by people. Anyway, thanks for the fun debate, here's a funny picture! lel
#169 to #53 - garbie (07/30/2013) [-]
I don't find straight sex gross at all, and I think it's partially because I've been taught to see it not only normal, but correct.
I know I can't change your feelings, but it hurts that someone tells you that he finds your way of having sex is gross. Instinctively I have to defend myself and the way I want to live.
I don't want to be tolerated or accepted , I would just love to be treated as any straight person. I don't want any kind of special treatment.
Well, **** this world.
User avatar #343 to #169 - kyouko (07/30/2013) [-]
All I can say to that is stop being so damn sensitive. If it is offensive and hurtful, ******* ignore it. It's not hard. If you want to defend yourself, it means you're unsure of yourself... making you more prone to attacks from whatever, really.
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User avatar #153 to #53 - wliia (07/30/2013) [-]
That's pretty much how most people are. It's natural to find gay sex gross/ disgusting, it's not normal to try and prohibit gay people from getting married because you find them gross.
User avatar #156 to #53 - huszti (07/30/2013) [-]
i'll just state my opinion on this.

i don't care if someone's homosexual, hetero, bi, pansexual or whatever the **** they are. but i can't stand flaming phanacts who are running around "look at me! i'm gay!" just to piss people off. i think people should be treated equally regardless of anything. gays should have the same rights as anyone else, it doesn't impact my life, but greatly does for them.

well, i also think gay sex is kinda gross, but well, you like pussy, so **** pussy instead of geting ****** in the ass.
User avatar #302 - mads (07/30/2013) [-]
The reason he doensn't judge them is because only God can judge. That is what it says in the bible. He's not nice, just smart.
#314 to #302 - restfullwicked (07/30/2013) [-]
the church also says that the pope can never be wrong, and yet the last time he said that gay people are ok they cardinals said he was wrong.
#310 to #302 - anon (07/30/2013) [-]
The pope is god's representitive on earth. He's supposed to judge as god would
User avatar #339 to #302 - thehappyphoenix (07/30/2013) [-]
A smart pope still would be a huge improvement.
User avatar #141 - shadowstepone ONLINE (07/30/2013) [-]
he says homosexual orientation is fine, but acting upon it is a sin. so, you can be gay, but you can't **** men.
#148 to #141 - mmmasz (07/30/2013) [-]
that has literally ALWAYS been the official theological opinion of the Catholic Church. Sexuality v. Sensuality
#374 to #141 - anon (07/30/2013) [-]
that's pretty ironic, considering the whole child ******* by catholic priests .
User avatar #144 to #141 - solidderking (07/30/2013) [-]
at least something
#503 to #144 - shadowstepone ONLINE (07/30/2013) [-]
looking for this?
User avatar #504 to #503 - solidderking (07/30/2013) [-]
thanks
#412 to #141 - anon (07/30/2013) [-]
He wants an army of gay wizards
#483 - trickytrickster (07/30/2013) [-]
The News' reaction to this quote just goes to show little people understand about Catholicism. He didn't change or go against any doctrine. Catholic's have believed this for a long time. Pope Francis then went on to say that homosexual actions are sinful, but we don't judge the sinner, we judge the sin. For some reason that part wasn't reported in the news.
#482 - sierramistfourteen (07/30/2013) [-]
I wonder how those crazy homophobic religious people are reacting
I wonder how those crazy homophobic religious people are reacting
#553 to #482 - anon (07/30/2013) [-]
A large number the most extremely devout, like Christians, HATE the Pope (Catholic) and Roman Catholic Church structure.. for some actually very reasonable reasons.

To be honest, he didn't actually say anything that goes against the bible.. I think, I'm no scholar.
User avatar #531 to #482 - jdsalenger (07/30/2013) [-]
30.5% are butthurt.
20% are crying cause they lost.
9.5% don't really care.
54% are secretly gay.
User avatar #468 - costello (07/30/2013) [-]
The lightbulb didn't even try
User avatar #393 - willisteal (07/30/2013) [-]
WARNING: MASS HOMOPHOBIA DETECTED IN THE COMMENTS SECTION!!!
#162 - meuk (07/30/2013) [-]
Actually he still thinks being gay is a sin, if you look at the video of where he says the stuff from the content, he immediately follows it up with dumb stuff about sins and women not being good enough to be priests. He may be a better pope, but still, he sees homosexuality as something wrong.   
   
MFW better pope but still, it's religion.
Actually he still thinks being gay is a sin, if you look at the video of where he says the stuff from the content, he immediately follows it up with dumb stuff about sins and women not being good enough to be priests. He may be a better pope, but still, he sees homosexuality as something wrong.

MFW better pope but still, it's religion.
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User avatar #177 to #164 - meuk (07/30/2013) [-]
i didn't say anyone should believe in god or not, though.
User avatar #163 to #162 - zaperzero ONLINE (07/30/2013) [-]
I'm bisexual and very much like men (though i do women as well) and I see homosexuality as wrong. It's a weird thing to me, but I don't see it as something to pursicute people for. The same with being a furry. I'm a furry and I see it as wrong, but I don't see it as something to judge someone over. It's not that big of a deal at all.
#165 to #163 - infernoimmortal (07/30/2013) [-]
It's because you are a slave.

You bend your feelings towards the opinions of the majority.

Be who you want to be even if it's wrong.

Well except if it's a rapist or murderer.
User avatar #181 to #165 - zaperzero ONLINE (07/30/2013) [-]
I honestly don't care.
#183 to #181 - infernoimmortal (07/30/2013) [-]
You obviously do care enough to accept yourself as "wrong" just to be less judged by society.
User avatar #186 to #183 - zaperzero ONLINE (07/30/2013) [-]
I can explain why I see both of those as wrong. Just the same as I can explain how rapists and murderers are wrong, they go against evolution and what it's supposed to do. Furries have an odd fetish in that they generally enjoy dressing to represent animals such as wolves, foxes, or in my case a dragon. They enjoy doing so for a reason that is unbenownst to me, and I honestly can't see anything right with it, though. I find tails arousing, and pads of paws to be too. Fur is something that humans also shouldn't enjoy sexually. These three are the main things that make me enjoy furry roleplaying. I also like the artistic appeal of it.
User avatar #187 to #186 - zaperzero ONLINE (07/30/2013) [-]
Note: Rapists and murderers aren't what go against evolution, that would be the other two I listed.
#174 to #163 - meuk (07/30/2013) [-]
well, homosexuality isn't wrong. that's not even an opinion in my opinion.
User avatar #182 to #174 - zaperzero ONLINE (07/30/2013) [-]
It prevents reproduction in a natural biological way. That's a fact. I harbor absolutely no anger at all towards homosexuals, and in fact I'm usually happy to find out someone is a huge queer. They're generally good to hang around, tons of fun if you ask me.
User avatar #192 to #182 - meuk (07/30/2013) [-]
So that must mean you think the follow human beings are wrong: people who cannot reproduce, people who have no interest in having children, people with down syndrome as 'naturally' they would not be smart enough to survive on their own and would not survive their youth, people with aids or any other serious STD as they should not reproduce because of spreading the disease. And probably if I think about it I could make u superlong list of people you think are wrong.

Simply because someone cannot/will not reproduce, doesn't mean they are wrong. You act as if 'nature' and 'reproducing' as a species are eternally important for everyone, whilst just keeping the species alive is good enough, even with some specimen not wanting smaller specimen of their own.
User avatar #194 to #192 - zaperzero ONLINE (07/30/2013) [-]
Yep. That's wrong. Biologically wrong. I think you're taking this harshly. I have absolutely no quarum with anyone with any of those problems at all, unless their personality pisses me off. They're wrong biologically. That's it, as people they're PERFECTLY FINE! You don't seem to get that I think homosexuals are normal, fine, people. It's just that it's a biological wrong and I am logically backing a reasoning. Again, must I state that I don't support the criticism of homosexuals? I don't. I really don't.
User avatar #199 to #194 - meuk (07/30/2013) [-]
Well I get what you mean, that I do, kind sir. But as with user durkadurka above, I don't agree with your choosing of words. Saying you think something is wrong, even biologically wrong, means that you think badly of something and don't approve of it. You would be better of, in my opinion, by saying "well guys, homosexuals are biologically anomalous/divergent", because they are not 'wrong', they are a natural, yes mind you, natural element of nature. Each and every anomaly/divergence in any system, be it nature or say, a computer program, are a natural and logical part of that system. There is no "100 % nature" or "100 % working program". Anomalies are part of everything, and completely coincidental, but not 'wrong'.

In short, I disagree with your using of the word 'wrong' instead of divergent.
User avatar #216 to #199 - zaperzero ONLINE (07/30/2013) [-]
Okay. ^_^ Then we've come to a common understanding of one another's meanings and therefore have come to agree that this argument, or misunderstanding I should say, and can stop it. :3 Great...what'cha wanna talk about now?
#223 to #216 - meuk (07/30/2013) [-]
hm ... let's talk about something inappropriate like ******* , or people with disabilities, or, as i like to call them, jackpot comedy targets such as blind gay ******* who perhaps need a wheelchair. is this to your fancy?
User avatar #227 to #223 - zaperzero ONLINE (07/30/2013) [-]
Nah, jokes about them are too easy. ^_^ Let's try something harder.
User avatar #233 to #227 - meuk (07/30/2013) [-]
that's what she said.
User avatar #247 to #233 - zaperzero ONLINE (07/30/2013) [-]
*licks lips* And she was soon thereafter pleased.
User avatar #168 to #162 - durkadurka (07/30/2013) [-]
Well see, the thing is that we all sin. It's not as if sinning = go to hell. Sinning is normal, and everyone does it.
User avatar #175 to #168 - meuk (07/30/2013) [-]
i agree with you durkadurka, but not in your choosing of words. sin has a religious meaning, it's just the bible translation for "doing something wrong", with the added connotation of some kind of disrepect for the spaghetti monster. i would completely agree with you if you said "we all do bad stuff".
User avatar #327 to #175 - srapture (07/30/2013) [-]
Got to agree with you there. Someone saying that something I do is a sin is like, for example, an American telling me I'm breaking the law by drinking alcohol at 18 years old.
User avatar #361 to #327 - meuk (07/30/2013) [-]
I concur!
User avatar #346 to #175 - durkadurka (07/30/2013) [-]
Yeah, that's more accurate than what I had written. I guess the point I wanted to get across was that a Christian saying "that's a sin" is not them condemning someone to hell.
#157 - I Am Monkey (07/30/2013) [-]
I always had a good feeling about this pope.
#383 to #157 - anon (07/30/2013) [-]
I have an incredibly good feeling about that Jaeger....
User avatar #357 - mrfourtysevenman (07/30/2013) [-]
i have a problem with people who think gays are evil.
they are minding their own busisiness and you actively go out of your way against them, that makes you the evil one.

plenty of other topics in the bible to talk about IMO
User avatar #338 - neighborhoodempire (07/30/2013) [-]
Good to see a Pope who doesn't think he's God himself.
User avatar #384 - traveltech (07/30/2013) [-]
What he actually said was basically, I don't hate gay people, as long as they stop doing gay things
#388 to #384 - xxxdemonxxx (07/30/2013) [-]
Don't try to interpret things ever again.
Don't try to interpret things ever again.
User avatar #394 to #388 - azumeow (07/30/2013) [-]
Yeah, he's right though. It's the Pope. Even if he accepts people, he doesn't have to, or want to, accept their actions.
User avatar #415 - reggaemortis (07/30/2013) [-]
I heard this quote from somewhere some time ago and it went along the lines of-
"Being a gay christian is like being a jewish nazi."
I forgot where I heard it... dang...
#262 - shishiko **User deleted account** (07/30/2013) [-]
One step closer to understanding in religion, people.
User avatar #258 - freddyhollensen (07/30/2013) [-]
gay parenting is a rejection of God’s law engraved in our hearts

- Pope Francis


Well wupti ******* do.
#140 - twotwelvedegrees (07/30/2013) [-]
To be honest, Pope Francis is one of the most liberal on the subject.
He's actually taken the time to consider the social effects of hating on homosexuals but he has to stick to his beliefs especially as the head of the Roman Catholic Church
Something funny to note is that during marriage equality legislature debates in Argentina he made a push for Civil Unions (as to give rights without pervading the 'sanctity of marriage'); however, other members of the Catholic church immediately made him retract on this and drop the topic.


The More You Know.
User avatar #143 to #140 - nylak (07/30/2013) [-]
He pushed for civil unions because same-sex marriage was the alternative, and he was rather enthusiastically against it, so he advocated for what he considered to be the lesser of two evils when he knew he was about to lose.

He still lost. Ha.

While I can respect that he is a pragmatist (he knew that the church was about to lose the fight against same-sex marriage in Argentina, so he fought for an alternative option), he can never be called even remotely tolerant or accepting of homosexuality. He's always been downright rabidly against the entire concept.
#166 - infernoimmortal (07/30/2013) [-]
Man..Religion, when will it finally fade out?
I mean, ****** outdated.
#184 to #166 - infinitereaper (07/30/2013) [-]
So are a huge variety of basic human behaviors, biologists, and emotions, like petty intolerance, false senses of superiority, idiocy, intolerance, and lack of understanding. Among other things.

And as far as I'm concerned no one has **** on religions like Buddhism and Shinto.

We're human beings. Deeply flawed, but it's not all bad. Religion isn't all bad. As far as I'm concerned what needs to fade out is the idea that we aren't all apart of the same big family.
User avatar #185 to #184 - infinitereaper (07/30/2013) [-]
physical biology*
#172 to #166 - sircool (07/30/2013) [-]
man...jackass-ism, when will it finally fade out?
I mean, ****** outdated.
#173 to #172 - infernoimmortal (07/30/2013) [-]
Stop hating, people can be judgemental and discriminating even without God's word to hide behind, it's called being an asshole, you don't need to believe in a God to be one.
#176 to #173 - sircool (07/30/2013) [-]
wait, I think some people are confused here. I called you a jackass for hating on religion. Yet here you are, defending it.
wait, I think some people are confused here. I called you a jackass for hating on religion. Yet here you are, defending it.
#180 to #176 - infernoimmortal (07/30/2013) [-]
I am hating on religion, or moreso on religious hypocrites.


I mean, I'm okay with the concept of "do good and good shall be done to you", but most religions have just absurd rules, like

Only eat kosher
Don't wear clothes made out of two different types of cloth
Don't allow anyone with dark skin to enter the sacred grounds of a church
If you catch your wife cheating on you, tie her to the one she cheated on you with and throw them in a deep well.
Point at homosexuals with your finger and tell them that they are going to hell.
Have multiple wives and beat the **** out of them if they dare to disagree with you.
Don't eat 5 days in a week because it's the week of your God's birth.


And many many more, those things are so damn retarded that I can't take any religion or religious person seriously.
Alright, there are some religious persons that are rational, they have good morals and they are good willed, yet they disagree with a certain "law" in their religion, and no matter how good they are, no matter how much they "believe", they are going to hell one way or another.


Religion is a crutch for the dumb and the weak, and therefor I can't really hate on it because most people simply turn to God when they are having a bad time, this is probably the only good purpose of religion in today's day and age, although, it can easily be substituited with free crying hours at some psychiatrists.


#189 to #180 - sircool (07/30/2013) [-]
oh boy, i'm being dragged into one of these things. 			*******		 fine then, let's start.   
1. Your first comment was against religion in general.  There was nothing to specify the "hypocrites". Further, religion isn't a person. It's an idea.   
2. Most of the goddamn things you listed are hardly enforced now a days, get over it. second part of it, it's for symbolization of an event. To honor something. You saying humanity should just give up on all that basically means we shouldn't have any type of holidays, since majority to all is to honor and event. We shouldn't even party, since that'd be honoring something.   
3. Religion isn't a crutch. If anything, it's first stone of the foundation of all science. Believe it or not, the scientific theory was built upon UNDERSTANDING GOD. That's right, the basic principles of modern study and learning was cause some 'stupid and weak' wanted to understand god.   
4. Without religion, majority of the things we have today would suck ass. There'd have been no renaissance art work or scientific thoughts. There wouldn't have been great stories based off religious elements today. And before you try to bring up the dark ages, it wasn't caused by religion. The roman empire fell, causing the dark ages. It destroyed any and all balance of power and stability with its fall. Christianity, if anything, rebuilt the stability and allowed humanity to grow, instead of being foolish savages.   
5. Religion has also made some of the most famous, most nicest people in history. Martin Luther King Jr., Gandhi, Mother Teresa, only to name a few.   
   
I could go on, but i'm running out of characters to use, so i'll just leave a tl:dr right here   
you can take your liberal, anti-religion bull 			****		 and shove it up your 2edgy4me ass
oh boy, i'm being dragged into one of these things. ******* fine then, let's start.
1. Your first comment was against religion in general. There was nothing to specify the "hypocrites". Further, religion isn't a person. It's an idea.
2. Most of the goddamn things you listed are hardly enforced now a days, get over it. second part of it, it's for symbolization of an event. To honor something. You saying humanity should just give up on all that basically means we shouldn't have any type of holidays, since majority to all is to honor and event. We shouldn't even party, since that'd be honoring something.
3. Religion isn't a crutch. If anything, it's first stone of the foundation of all science. Believe it or not, the scientific theory was built upon UNDERSTANDING GOD. That's right, the basic principles of modern study and learning was cause some 'stupid and weak' wanted to understand god.
4. Without religion, majority of the things we have today would suck ass. There'd have been no renaissance art work or scientific thoughts. There wouldn't have been great stories based off religious elements today. And before you try to bring up the dark ages, it wasn't caused by religion. The roman empire fell, causing the dark ages. It destroyed any and all balance of power and stability with its fall. Christianity, if anything, rebuilt the stability and allowed humanity to grow, instead of being foolish savages.
5. Religion has also made some of the most famous, most nicest people in history. Martin Luther King Jr., Gandhi, Mother Teresa, only to name a few.

I could go on, but i'm running out of characters to use, so i'll just leave a tl:dr right here
you can take your liberal, anti-religion bull **** and shove it up your 2edgy4me ass
#235 to #189 - bananabaker (07/30/2013) [-]
hy guyse releigon = honr
party = honr
derfor if god is 0 u hv no prty lol tak it in anus atehist!!!!11
#228 to #189 - termz (07/30/2013) [-]
Are you trying to look stupid or?
#230 to #228 - sircool (07/30/2013) [-]
as you might say, prove me wrong.
#550 to #189 - infernoimmortal (07/30/2013) [-]
The religions change to the will of people, so their almighty God doesn't get what he wants, so if Christans don't stone homosexuals and hold black slaves they will not go to heaven, because they defy the will of GOD!!!!11'1'!one

We shouldn't keep believing in one (or more) almighty being that enforces strict codes of morals, it's silly. You don't need someone watching over your ass if you intend to do good, most religious people I know are ******* assholes, so yeah, ******* , go hate on homosexuals and live in your 18th century world.
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