Sharing is kill. .. I realize this is just a comic, but I just buy my stuff so the money goes to those who created it, usually my games. I'd shell out 60 dollars for skyrim so it g
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#1 - ennioface (07/27/2013) [-]
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Mfw I try to share my penis
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User avatar #84 to #1 - ennioface (07/28/2013) [-]
Why the **** are you all rolling I'm so confused.
#131 to #1 - toymoo (07/28/2013) [-]
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#161 to #131 - itrinx (07/28/2013) [-]
"MFW When"


lol retard
#169 to #1 - xxcxpxx (07/28/2013) [-]
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#7 to #1 - itrinx (07/27/2013) [-]
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#24 to #7 - minsheme (07/28/2013) [-]
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#38 to #30 - minsheme (07/28/2013) [-]
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mfw i climax and ejaculate gallons of pee into a womens penis
#39 to #38 - itrinx (07/28/2013) [-]
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User avatar #98 to #38 - animedudej ONLINE (07/28/2013) [-]
you use the ************* tri-force when you ejaculate?
User avatar #11 to #7 - ennioface (07/28/2013) [-]
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#15 - Skrufymunky (07/28/2013) [-]
I realize this is just a comic, but I just buy my stuff so the money goes to those who created it, usually my games. I'd shell out 60 dollars for skyrim so it goes to Bethesda so they can keep creating awesome games. I don't really care if you pirate stuff or not though, just my own opinion.
#146 to #15 - gerfox (07/28/2013) [-]
I just pirate games to test them out, if I like them I'll buy them, if not I have saved the money.
User avatar #17 to #15 - ginginhunter (07/28/2013) [-]
but if somebody cannot afford that?
plus , you can always donate more money than the price itself
User avatar #20 to #17 - Skrufymunky (07/28/2013) [-]
If i can't afford i don't buy it. More important things like food and a car payment than a video game. I don't really have an opinion on other people pirating though. If you can't afford it or just don't want to pay for it, all you man.
User avatar #59 to #20 - ginginhunter (07/28/2013) [-]
it actually depends on personel opinion on the market
y'know , not wanting to support exploiters and stuff
because if to look deeply at it , bethesda CEO dont do ****
the programers , artists etc do the ****
CEO chooses how much money they get for tearing up theyre asses for us to play a couple hours
User avatar #116 to #59 - organiclead (07/28/2013) [-]
They also choose what does and does not get made. No profit for them = no publishing. Let's say everyone decides to pirate the Elder Scrolls games and donate directly to the creators in some perfect utopian system. The analysts will look at the sales numbers and will go, "Huum, this game isn't selling as much as we thought it would. That means we need to do something different. Hey, that Famrville game is making a lot of money, developers, go make something more like that."
#57 to #15 - trollolololgabe (07/28/2013) [-]
its worse when you actually pay for the product and then don't actually get to use it...for instance I bought an Xbox that came with Skyrim and my little brother redeemed the game on his account and now I cant play it. Thats why I pirate whatever I can, because in reality the corporations are going to screw you out of as much money as they can so its only fair to do the same to them.
#21 to #15 - thenewnuggubler (07/28/2013) [-]
I have to agree, partially. I'm an amateur developer myself, and I view it as insulting to the developers to pirate games, because they often get little credit for difficult work, and fully deserve my money; like you said, I pay them so they can continue producing great things. However, I usually have no qualms with torrenting music, as well as videos; those actors and singers make ********* of money. If I REALLY like something I found, I'll buy it, but I'd rather that a famous band miss out on ten bucks than support a greedy company like Apple.
inb4 red sea for an opinion on the internet.
User avatar #25 to #21 - keiishiyama (07/28/2013) [-]
I never pirate games. Ever. That's where I draw a line in the dirt.

I pirate music because my small town has so few CDs to offer. No U2's Joshua Tree for me without a nice trip to the Pirate Bay. When I see a CD I want on the shelf, I buy it no question.
User avatar #28 to #25 - thenewnuggubler (07/28/2013) [-]
Me as well. The only way I can buy music is through iTunes, and I don't have a credit card of my own, and I rarely get a chance to get a card from a store, so TPB is usually my only choice. Along with iTunes's **** movie prices, I can't shell out that much damn money for a movie
User avatar #29 to #28 - keiishiyama (07/28/2013) [-]
Yay, thieves with consciences.
#27 to #21 - tobe (07/28/2013) [-]
The only company I pirate games from is EA. **** those assholes. They don't deserve the money.

I pay for all the other stuff, though. Especially music and indie games.
User avatar #33 to #27 - stanleys (07/28/2013) [-]
Sorry, you are going to need to buy the Piracy DLC for $9.95 before you can do that
User avatar #151 to #21 - dummerbaztard (07/28/2013) [-]
How exactly are musicians making ********* of money?
User avatar #167 to #151 - thenewnuggubler (07/28/2013) [-]
There's still plenty of people who don't pirate, concerts, merchandise, all kinds of things. I know that a lot of that money goes to other things, like the owners, managers, producers, as well as production, but I'd say Kanye West can total a Ferrari and not worry about the expenses.
User avatar #22 - merrymarvelite (07/28/2013) [-]
I don't give a **** if anybody downloads **** but you can at least stop pretending you're not doing anything wrong.
#50 to #22 - anon (07/28/2013) [-]
Illegal yes, wrong no.
#81 to #50 - anon (07/28/2013) [-]
Illegal:yes.
Wrong:yes.
Fun:oh hell yeah.
#75 to #22 - sparkysparkybooman (07/28/2013) [-]
Well I'm going to say i'm not doing anything wrong because instead of spending $60 bucks on a games, or $1.29 on a song (Completely outrageous price, I'm supposed to spend thousands to listen to music?!), I spend it on other things like groceries or to help pay bills.    
   
Also, studies find illegal downloading doesn't harm the music industry, and other industries.    
news.yahoo.com/study-finds-illegal-downloading-doesn-t-harm-music-044753096.html   
Along with lots of other links... use google.
Well I'm going to say i'm not doing anything wrong because instead of spending $60 bucks on a games, or $1.29 on a song (Completely outrageous price, I'm supposed to spend thousands to listen to music?!), I spend it on other things like groceries or to help pay bills.

Also, studies find illegal downloading doesn't harm the music industry, and other industries.
news.yahoo.com/study-finds-illegal-downloading-doesn-t-harm-music-044753096.html
Along with lots of other links... use google.
User avatar #152 to #75 - dummerbaztard (07/28/2013) [-]
So its ok to steal something if you don't have enough money but want those luxuries?
Because that's what you just said, it's like thugs robbing shops because they don't have enough money to buy it, so that's not wrong?
#176 to #152 - sparkysparkybooman (07/29/2013) [-]
I never said stealing is ok, but I also don't think overpricing things are ok either. As well, the people I would be buying from that I instead illegally download their stuff, are all already millionaires. Look at it however you want idc their rich, they will continue to get rich, and they will have many more fans as much more of their music is out there.
#135 to #75 - anon (07/28/2013) [-]
Most of the other links I see go to that one study. And the argument against it. I think the argument is reaching a bit, though it does bring up some good points on the method of data collecting.

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User avatar #26 to #22 - shitposts (07/28/2013) [-]
I can acknowledge that piracy is wrong but I don't care since the gaming and music industry has so many ****** up business practices.

Copyright laws are too really ******* ridiculous if you think about it (what is it now? the life of the author plus 70 years?). I say this because often when piracy is discussed copyright infringement is an often used term.
User avatar #87 - cheddarcheesestick (07/28/2013) [-]
To whoever thinks pirating is justified, it isn't. Now I pirate, but I'm not going to say it's right. The creator does lose something. It costs money to make games, they profit off of sales for that game, which you are promoting/stealing from them. They lose the 60 dollars they deserved to make up for the money they spent making it.
User avatar #115 to #87 - kolpster (07/28/2013) [-]
I only pirate TV - they can't lose too much money.
User avatar #121 to #115 - cheddarcheesestick (07/28/2013) [-]
That isn't horrible.

It isn't bad, but it certainly isn't good.
User avatar #134 to #121 - kolpster (07/28/2013) [-]
Hush now, child...
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User avatar #110 to #87 - ishalltroll (07/28/2013) [-]
I usually pirate games for a couple of reasons.
1. The developer/publisher doesn't bring out a demo. I hate and absolutely oppose this trend. At least let me ******* try your game before I buy something that I hate.
2. English voiceover. I don't want to have to import a goddamn game for higher shipping costs just because I want english voiceovers. I live in germany and the german voiceovers are ALWAYS **** .
3. I'm usually too poor.
User avatar #143 to #87 - slugnugget (07/28/2013) [-]
Except they are not losing anything.

The simple fact is most people that pirate games or films do it because they dont care enough about the product to actually ever buy it.

By you logic buying a game second hand isnt justified either because that also doesnt help the company make money.

And their is defo a lot more people buying pre-owned media than their are people pirating it.

When companies day they are implement drm because of piracy, its just their excuse to drm media to prevent second hand selling.

most people here are smart enough to buy the game they want if the developers or company is small like an indie and actually need the money.
User avatar #153 to #143 - dummerbaztard (07/28/2013) [-]
Yea because bigger developers make money out of air, pff only indies deserve money!

Are you retarded, they do just as much work as the others, why would they not deserve money for that?
User avatar #162 to #153 - slugnugget (07/28/2013) [-]
Mass advertised games get bought for christmas presents and such. e.g see COD.

Indie games dont have that luxury.

And sir you are a Retard. Im not saying big companies dont deserve my money jesus christ.
User avatar #43 - Sprinklez (07/28/2013) [-]
See, it's not the same though. When you lend someone a crayon, it's still your possession, and there's still only one copy, therefor only one exists in the scenario and one was purchased. It's like letting someone borrow your DVD of a movie. When you torrent it, you're getting a duplicate copy, therefor two copies exist and only one was purchased. It's not sharing, it's stealing.

I say this, of course, while I'm about to go watch a movie I torrented last night. I don't care if you torrent, as I do it myself, but quick being so ******* preachy about it and acting like you aren't doing anything wrong.
#99 to #43 - bobistheshit (07/28/2013) [-]
Think of it like this, what if youve got a DVD and you want to preserve the original and make a copy for use for yourself, is that stealing?
User avatar #178 to #99 - Sprinklez (07/30/2013) [-]
No. Not at all.
But if you give away a copy while keeping the DVD for yourself, that's stealing.
#55 - satnaam (07/28/2013) [-]
**satnaam rolls 463**

"The truth is always the best answer"
"Its important to always be yourself"
"Looks are not important, Its the inside that counts"



ya,
all that **** goes out the window when it comes to job interviews.

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#114 - anon (07/28/2013) [-]
Alright dumbasses, there is a reason its not called stealing or sharing and its called PIRACY

Its both, stealing AND sharing (that is if you use the dictionaries definition)

Right or wrong, thats for the individual person to decide. In my personal opinion, i acknowledge its not FAIR, but i dont associate it with being right or wrong, i have no morals. I do pirate almost everything. EVERYTHING. I cant afford **** because i dont have a job. I dont have a job because its not ******* easy getting one. I applied for numerous jobs, and nothing. Thats besides the point, i jsut wanted to say its not nice to shove your biased opinions down someone elses throat.
#85 - sorenlolz (07/28/2013) [-]
If I couldn't pirate 			****		 I wouldn't have money to pay for it anyways. Nobody is loosing money or something physical. If you have money to support 			****		 by all means do. If you would not have money for 			****		 anyways 			****		 it.
If I couldn't pirate **** I wouldn't have money to pay for it anyways. Nobody is loosing money or something physical. If you have money to support **** by all means do. If you would not have money for **** anyways **** it.
User avatar #8 - manicekman (07/28/2013) [-]
Well the first picture should be cloning the crayons. One kid buys them, others clone them ant the guys who make them get o money and have to close shop and then there will be no crayons or you will have DRM on them.
#96 - neoexdeath ONLINE (07/28/2013) [-]
What? I'm just a cosplay enthusiast!
#64 - derpingherper (07/28/2013) [-]
There's a difference between sharing and stealing.
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User avatar #69 to #67 - derpingherper (07/28/2013) [-]
That IS stealing due to the fact that the other person has said product (copy) without buying it.

If said person shared, he/she would give the original copy to the other person.
#70 to #67 - anon (07/28/2013) [-]
a huge number of scenarios of intellectual theft leaves the original copy behind, grow a neurone or two
User avatar #103 - mrnoodlez (07/28/2013) [-]
The problem is that when people pirate, the developers get less money because someone is literally handing out their thousands of hours of work for free.
User avatar #138 to #103 - slugnugget (07/28/2013) [-]
When most people pirate it's because they would never actually buy the game anyway.

And most gamers are not idiots and will buy the game if its a small company that needs it.

#77 - thesinful (07/28/2013) [-]
Reminds me of every time I go to the movies. "Texting during a movie is rude. Talking on your phone during a movie is obnoxious. Recording the movie is illegal." Yeah, but that last one doesn't make me wanna shank a bitch.
User avatar #91 - grandmabetty (07/28/2013) [-]
People who pirate are at fault for companies punishing everybody including those who never pirate. E.g. DRM layers, AACS, HDCP, and all the other junk they plaster Blu-rays and DVDs with. **** you pirates.
#104 to #91 - anon (07/28/2013) [-]
sorry bro but just pretend i was never here in the first place..

its funny how no one cares about anyone, but only care when that person is enjoying their life by getting some stuff free
#128 to #104 - anon (07/28/2013) [-]
Or when your getting stuff for free DIRECTLY EFFECTS EVERYONE ELSE.
User avatar #139 to #91 - slugnugget (07/28/2013) [-]
Thats actually a cover up considering they lose very little from piracy.

But they do lose a great deal from customers buying the games or dvds second hand.

The fact is most people that pirate something would never actually buy it anyway.

But when they pirate something they wernt interested in the first place but actually enjoy it, it could push them in to paying to watch or buy the sequel.

all in all pirating your games is no different to buying them pre-owned because the company doesnt make money either way.



User avatar #160 to #139 - grandmabetty (07/28/2013) [-]
No, actually the industry loses millions and millions every year just because people pirate it.

And this business you're talking about where people 'pirate the film and if they enjoy it then they might buy the film' is still not justifiable at all. You don't walk into a cinema and watch the film for free, do you? You have to pay for your ticket whether you like the film or not. If you go and ask for a refund then that's just called being an asshole.

Pre-owned games were already purchased once and that's what they were intended for. Once it's bought, you can do whatever you like with it. It makes no difference. Buying pre-owned things isn't piracy.

But piracy doesn't help at all.
User avatar #165 to #160 - slugnugget (07/28/2013) [-]
Well technically dude, pirated games are bought first before made able to pirate.

So by your logic it is the same thing again.

Its lossed is based on tainted logic.

Their logic is that if 1000 people download it illegally, that means they lost 1000 buyers. Which hardly true at all. People tend to pirate stuff they would never pay to watch. So its no where near the losses companies like to make out.
Piracy reports are nothing more than companies wanting DRM to stop their actual losses form kids buying pre-owned games or even borrowing games off their friend instead of buying them.
User avatar #173 to #165 - grandmabetty (07/28/2013) [-]
This is exactly what I was saying in my comment, it's the pirater's fault that everybody is punished with DRM etc. The companies are now in a position where they can't trust their consumers not to pirate their media, so to try and counteract that, they have to impose these ****** DRM layers to make it harder for everybody to basically do whatever they want to do with their media. They bought it, so they should be able to do whatever they please with it. But they can't because people pirate. It's almost impossible to rip a Blu-ray without spending a lot of money on decryption & capture hardware.

I saw what you said in that recent comment. Your teacher shouldn't be a film teacher if he pirates, that's just disgracing the industry. Sorry but you just cannot call pirating okay, it's automatically wrong morally and by law. It's not fair on the creators of the film, the distributors, the suppliers, the retailers, everybody else , when you pirate.
User avatar #159 to #139 - bekindtoall (07/28/2013) [-]
Lose very little?!? are you kidding me?!

A famous example is X-Men Origins: Wolverine which lost nearly $10 million in its first week due to it being leaked online.
User avatar #164 to #159 - slugnugget (07/28/2013) [-]
Thats not even a real fact.

They base that on the amount of downloads.

They just assume everyone that downloaded would have payed to see it.

That is very far from the truth.
User avatar #166 to #164 - bekindtoall (07/28/2013) [-]
It is a real fact, the person who uploaded the pirated film was arrested for 1 year and the amount Fox lost due to the pirating is a well known fact. Film students (including Me and GrandmaBetty) were even told to use it for our exams.

Also, what sort of stupid arse argument is that? If you downloaded the film you are watching the film without paying for it and therefore are stealing. It doesn't matter in any way, shape or form if you had the intention of seeing this in the cinema, you pirated the film and thats that.
User avatar #171 to #166 - slugnugget (07/28/2013) [-]
because its correct. do me a favor buddy. Google what most studies actually think about piracy if you dont believe me.

And I am a film and video student. Even our teacher pirates films he would never buy.
And this guy has 100's of films on blue-ray.

Piracy is illegal sure. But its no worse than drinking at 20 years old.
#10 - blakhawk (07/28/2013) [-]
Sharing crayons doesn't cost Crayola money.
User avatar #14 to #10 - vatra (07/28/2013) [-]
******** , what if I never buy my own crayons because my friend's are always readily accessible?
#37 to #14 - anon (07/28/2013) [-]
Then you were probably mocked behind your friends' back for being a mooch.
#44 to #40 - anon (07/28/2013) [-]
Then hypothetically, in a certain set of circumstances offered in your example, you perhaps might have been mocked by the friends who may or may not exist over over crayons that might have existed.
#45 to #44 - vatra (07/28/2013) [-]
Fair enough. Can't argue with that hypothetically being a possibility.
Fair enough. Can't argue with that hypothetically being a possibility.
User avatar #23 to #10 - shitposts (07/28/2013) [-]
really? I never had to buy my own crayons since everyone else had some. that's a loss in sales is it not? In the eyes of anti-pirates (and other people too probably, this is just for examples sake) a loss of sale = a loss of money. so there you go.
#31 to #23 - blakhawk (07/28/2013) [-]
The wax is used, so no matter who uses the crayons, resources are consumed. If someone shares crayons, they have less for themselves, so they have to buy more sooner.
User avatar #32 to #31 - shitposts (07/28/2013) [-]
you have a point, and yet it kinda falls flat. you see everyone had crayons, but we never really used them much so there was always an excess of it. As I said I never owned any of my own (as far as I can remember) so I don't know how often my friends bought new ones, but I imagine it wasn't very often. And when they did buy new ones I think it's more likely that it was because the old ones broke or were lost, not because they got used up.

But yeah you're right, the wax being used up still happens independent of who is using it. so the loss might not be that comparable to today's piracy.
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#71 - anon (07/28/2013) [-]
except when you "share" crayons, only one person can use them at a time, because only one copy exists.

when you torrent something, you make an extra copy, and now more than one person is using it at the same time. you're not sharing it; you're illegally making copies of something that you don't have the right to copy.

remember, you don't pay for your software, you pay for the RIGHT TO USE the software.
#34 - fuckyoshitnigga (07/28/2013) [-]
Keeping in mind I have downloaded 4 movies in the past 6 hours, this is kind of how retarded your logic is.
User avatar #80 to #34 - sorenlolz (07/28/2013) [-]
So a guy handing someone crayons is domestic abuse.
User avatar #97 - Lainge (07/28/2013) [-]
The comments:
People trying to justify being thieves with false logic.
User avatar #137 to #97 - slugnugget (07/28/2013) [-]
Remember when I robbed a bank and afterwards the bank still had the same amount of money as before I robbed it?

User avatar #168 to #137 - shitposts (07/28/2013) [-]
do you know what inflation is?
User avatar #172 to #168 - slugnugget (07/28/2013) [-]
I know my example would not be exactly the same due too it being about money.

Imagine the robber stole a can of coke out of your cuboard but the coke is actually still their because he created a copy of it and drunk that.
User avatar #157 to #137 - Lainge (07/28/2013) [-]
I give you.
~The false logic.
User avatar #163 to #157 - slugnugget (07/28/2013) [-]
My logic is pretty much sound. If your pirating for the right reasons. Its pretty much as bad as stealing air.
User avatar #174 to #163 - Lainge (07/28/2013) [-]
"If you're pirating for the right reasons."
User avatar #177 to #174 - slugnugget (07/29/2013) [-]
yes.
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