Be in military. Automatic "Hero". .. I have lots of respect for the troops but they are not automatically a hero for dying either
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#42 - willindor ONLINE (07/21/2013) [-]
#119 to #42 - slap (07/22/2013) [-]
Thats just mean.
#52 to #42 - spikethepony (07/21/2013) [-]
Hamplanet. My favorite fat-person term.
On that note, STORYTIME, CHILDREN!

>Have friend who is a nurse.
>Works in the delivery room.
>One day, this hamplanet walks in.
>No, seriously, she's so fat one can hardly tell she's pregnant.
>Hamplanet has skinny-ass husband.
>Whilst dosed on various anti-pain meds, hamplanet begins talking.
>Subject moves to the child's conception.
>Hamplanet says they needed "help" to do the deed.
>She explains that "help" meant having her two sisters and her mother hold hammy's fat flabs up whilst the skeleton husband does the nasty.
>Hamplanet continues.
>It didn't work the first time.
>Friend's FW hamplanet says they had to try 5 times.
#15 - psykobear (07/21/2013) [-]
Did that bitch really die?
From over-eating?
Or is this fake?
User avatar #20 to #15 - zafara (07/21/2013) [-]
Well. looked up ham overdose. Overdosing on ham is basically conking out due to tryptophan. I don't know who that woman is, but I'm sure the news article would have show up had she really died from overdosing on ham.

But then, I've seen her mentioned on FunnyJunk before. Didn't she eat five pounds of fried ground beef once?
#25 to #20 - rtokuj (07/21/2013) [-]
I think its Honey boo boo's mother
User avatar #136 to #25 - zafara (07/22/2013) [-]
Yep, it is. This is what I get for not watching a lot of TV......
User avatar #26 to #15 - sanguinesolitude (07/21/2013) [-]
she didnt die
#189 to #26 - spetsnazvymple (07/22/2013) [-]
thats too bad
User avatar #34 to #15 - siridontcare (07/21/2013) [-]
Considering my friend saw the two at her job I think its fake
User avatar #62 to #34 - icecreamonnips (07/22/2013) [-]
did she buy some Ham?
#293 to #15 - worried (07/22/2013) [-]
idk but i convinced my gf that you can really OD on ham according to her that bitch's post
#243 to #15 - ydosac (07/22/2013) [-]
I think it's a reference to that bloke from Glee overdosing and how much more media attention worldwide it is getting compared to when troops die.
I think it's a reference to that bloke from Glee overdosing and how much more media attention worldwide it is getting compared to when troops die.
User avatar #265 to #243 - goodcheese (07/22/2013) [-]
because I think people wanted to take advantage of the death a person who was popular to teens to spread the word about drugs and their dangers and whatnot.
#225 to #15 - fedexman (07/22/2013) [-]
Alive and hungry
#4 - hoboguyman (07/21/2013) [-]
Did someone say ham?
Did someone say ham?
#111 - Ulmer (07/22/2013) [-]
>overdosed on ham
>overdosed on ham
User avatar #185 to #111 - konradkurze (07/22/2013) [-]
makes me think of that episode of simpsons where homer challenged that truck driver to an eating contest and he died from beef poisoning
User avatar #105 - deescalation ONLINE (07/22/2013) [-]
I'm a crew chief in the Air Force, if I die while serving, I only hope people think "That guy was pretty cool" instead of the usual FJ response of "He joined the military, he had it coming."
User avatar #145 to #105 - warmbuns (07/22/2013) [-]
I give you a motivated oorah, from a marine to an airman.
#176 to #105 - angelusprimus (07/22/2013) [-]
I really hoped that after Vietnam and consequences for the veterans that war had, people would learn the difference between "I don't support the war." and "I don't support the troops."
I never supported our intervention in Iraq. It was stupid, unnecessary and only people who benefited from it are terrorists and military industrial complex. **** all the politicians who sent our boys there.
But guys who went there, they ARE heroes. They deserve respect and support. Our men and women doing the fighting should not be judged because the leadership who sent them there is ****** up.
User avatar #216 to #176 - badgerclan (07/22/2013) [-]
I have never understood this opinion. Before I explain why I'd like to state that the following does not apply to anybody who was drafted or was already in the military when the war started, because they had no choice in the matter:

Take a war like WWII where there was a good reason to fight. People who fought (against the nazis, of course) deserve respect and admiration because they had a good reason to fight. If the war is pointless and there's no good reason to be in it, why is it worth respecting for somebody to fight in that war? If you don't support a war then doesn't it logically follow that you shouldn't support the ones fighting the war? Otherwise you're basically saying "This is a completely pointless war, but thank god we're willing to fight it!"

The explanations I always hear for continuing to support somebody who is fighting in a stupid war don't make any sense. The "being willing to fight/die for your beliefs" and "supporting/defending your country" ones fall flat when you think about the NVA, the Japanese in WWII, much of the military personnel in oppressive dictatorships, the Taliban, and any of the other armed groups that we don't support because we don't support them even though those reasons apply to them. The "protecting our country/freedoms" arguments don't make sense because if the war is pointless then by definition it is no closer to these things than it is to curing cancer or any other goal that we don't thank the troops for moving us closer to. The "blame the polititians who started the war/the generals who sent the soldiers there" doesn't make sense, unless we're talking about the exceptions I laid out earlier, because the people fighting chose to join the military while we were fighting a stupid war. Therefore they chose to fight in the pointless war.

User avatar #275 to #216 - revanthewin (07/22/2013) [-]
I don't really think that there is such a thing as a pointless war. I mean, whether or not you believe that we only invaded Iraq for oil or if there were actually WMDs, there was still the possibility that there were. (Also they did find chemical weapons in Iraq which count as WMDs. Just fyi). It doesn't matter what you think about Iraq, or Vietnam or Afghanistan. What matters is that people heard the reasons that the government said they went to war there, thought they were good enough, and decided to help out. Even if it turns out everything was a lie from the beginning, the soldiers didn't know that. They thought that Sudam Hussein was sitting on a stockpile of WMDs. I'd say that war has a point. Even after people started saying that there weren't any WMDs, if the person thinks that there still might be some, there's a point to them being there.

I'm not sure if all that even made any sense, but it's 3 AM so that's the best you're gonna get.
User avatar #305 to #275 - hudis ONLINE (07/22/2013) [-]
They believed that because it's what the government told them. People were effectively tricked into enlisting. That's how war works, that's where troops come from, and that's wrong.
User avatar #325 to #305 - revanthewin (07/22/2013) [-]
I'm not saying it's not wrong, but it's wrong to say things like that about people who join later. You don't know what kind of reasons they could have had for joining the war, or what they believed that made them join. To them whatever lies the government told could have sounded true and made them join. Even the people who knew it was a "pointless war" still deserve to be treated well though. They weren't just standing around out in a desert or a jungle in Vietnam. They were fighting out there, and them just being there could have saved the lives of a lot of other soldiers or civilians.
User avatar #106 to #105 - cumbersome (07/22/2013) [-]
That is not the usual Fj response at all, they usually go all out and yell at everyone for not respecting the military and what not. At least in my experience
User avatar #137 to #105 - holycrapimacupcake (07/22/2013) [-]
If I here that you have died I will find your grave and I will be proud to salute you sir.

I respect our military men.
User avatar #108 to #105 - hudis ONLINE (07/22/2013) [-]
To me, the usual FJ response seems to be, "He died fighting for our freedom, **** any non-patriot who so much as begins to post."
User avatar #110 to #108 - deescalation ONLINE (07/22/2013) [-]
we've had very different experiences then
#273 - Yojimbo (07/22/2013) [-]
> MFW People actually get very upset over soldier's deaths
> MFW Honey Boo Boo's mother is not dead
> MFW this is a completely false image of American society
> MFW OP is implying that there are only certain people you can mourn
> MFW OP actually does something right in keeping with the tradition of being a faggot
User avatar #295 to #273 - nooneofinterest (07/22/2013) [-]
How did I imply you can only mourn certain people
#302 to #273 - countsandpaper (07/22/2013) [-]
Americans ARE stupid. End of story.
#244 - sloot (07/22/2013) [-]
Im sorry. Maybe I am just being a stereotypical ass, but in my life time I have met far too many "injured" war vets that are just blatantly taking advantage of the government to get free money. One of my friends apparently hurt his back so badly in Iraq he doesn't have to work anymore and gets disability checks, but still can play basketball with us every weekend. My other buddy's dad apparently hurt his leg so badly overseas that he doesn't have to work either, now he just sits in his garage all day smoking weed and getting paid to do nothing.... not even work an office job where he could sit down all day. I am nowhere near implying that all injured war vets scam the system like that, but like anything people will take notice of the bad before the good
User avatar #263 to #244 - theblacksheep (07/22/2013) [-]
"be the change you want to be in the world"... Maybe ask the guy what's up, tell him that you think it's wrong that he can participate in a physical sport like basketball if he is receiving disability check. And if he gets all pissy just drop it, but it might feel better to just say it, ya know? Not being judgmental because we can't always say whats on our minds.
User avatar #1 - turtletroll (07/21/2013) [-]
I have lots of respect for the troops but they are not automatically a hero for dying either
#79 to #1 - anon (07/22/2013) [-]
I agree. Private Bubba goes full retard and blows himself up on a mine? Not a hero
Dies pushing civilians out of the way of a bomb? Heor.
User avatar #149 to #1 - greenstrongworld (07/22/2013) [-]
Really edgy but perfectly fine by my rules. I agree with you.
#238 to #1 - slamweiss (07/22/2013) [-]
They are heroes because they risk their life so that the rest of america does not have to. Im in the military and I would gladly die for america, not very many people can say that.
#242 to #1 - stlassassinfhc (07/22/2013) [-]
You make me sick
User avatar #251 to #1 - BubsyB (07/22/2013) [-]
They only ever mention Soldiers on the news who died helping someone else as a "Hero".

At least where I live.
#123 to #1 - qwopdude **User deleted account** (07/22/2013) [-]
Regardless if you believed in the cause or not. If they died for it they at least deserve your respect.
#130 to #1 - anon (07/22/2013) [-]
Would you not consider someone laying their life on the line for your freedoms of everyday life a hero of some sort? Troops dying every day and all you have to show for it is a dumbass comment like that.. Idiot
#12 to #1 - anon (07/21/2013) [-]
regardless what the problem is, having the courage to sacrifice yourself for your country. that is what makes someone a hero.
User avatar #13 to #12 - blazekingxxx (07/21/2013) [-]
But what if your country is in the wrong?

Just following someones else evil orders and destroying a country for oil
#18 to #13 - anon (07/21/2013) [-]
They still volunteer, if they don't volunteer we get drafted, simple as that, the US is not going to be without an army, regardless of whatever the **** the public wants. So whether that is how they see it when they're signing up or not, they do a service to the people.
User avatar #30 to #12 - nylak (07/21/2013) [-]
I doubt "courage" and "patriotism" are the sole motivations at play when one joins the armed forces, in most cases.
User avatar #166 to #30 - badgerclan (07/22/2013) [-]
I was in Civil Air Patrol (sort of like air force rotc mixed with boy scouts) for several years and a lot of the people in my squadron went off to join the military. I don't know a single person who said they wanted to join to protect their country or defend the constitution or anything that we always hear people thanking soldiers for. Most joined for the college opportunities or because they had a family tradition of joining the military.
#245 to #12 - anon (07/22/2013) [-]
under that logic, Nazi soldiers were heroes of Germany
User avatar #310 to #245 - scorcho ONLINE (07/22/2013) [-]
nazis were heroes. they were doing no different than what us soldiers are doing today. they also had similiar means of propaganda, if you think about it without any bias.
User avatar #28 to #12 - ireallylikepotatoe ONLINE (07/21/2013) [-]
Yeah, all those Nazi soldiers that died in WWII.

Real heroes.
User avatar #2 to #1 - nooneofinterest (07/21/2013) [-]
I have respect for some of them

But some of them are unsympathetic bullies
#3 to #2 - mcderper (07/21/2013) [-]
I respect authority.
User avatar #5 to #1 - thehans (07/21/2013) [-]
ultimate sacrifice = an hero
User avatar #6 to #5 - turtletroll (07/21/2013) [-]
Well it depends what they sacrificed themselves for.
User avatar #7 to #6 - thehans (07/21/2013) [-]
freedom
User avatar #8 to #7 - turtletroll (07/21/2013) [-]
To be honest if you knew anything about the war in the middle east you would know that if it wasn`t for america then their own freedoms wouldn`t be under threat
#57 to #8 - anon (07/22/2013) [-]
Most soldiers enter the army under the impression that they are defending the freedoms of their fellow countrymen and families...
User avatar #9 to #8 - thehans (07/21/2013) [-]
i know, but it isnt the men who die in battle who get to make those decisions. its the highly decorated generals who decide who does what and when. the least we can do for the men who die is give them an honorable departure. the reason we are in the middle east is to try and bring democracy to their dictatorship and prevent extremist religious parties from gaining to much power. and oil is probably a factor too. whether you agree with the military or not, they are defending U.S. citizens. and if you cant stand behind them, you are more then welcome to stand in front of them.
User avatar #24 to #9 - stupro (07/21/2013) [-]
They're not defending US citizens. They defend economic interests of the few selected individuals.
User avatar #31 to #24 - nylak (07/21/2013) [-]
This right here. Anyone who believes otherwise, in our current state of international affairs, is a victim of half-assed propaganda.
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#272 to #24 - fiskars (07/22/2013) [-]
Still, they're out there doing the job, so YOU don't have to, dying for YOU.
#19 to #9 - sadawedsa **User deleted account** (07/21/2013) [-]
Put perfectly
Put perfectly
#281 to #9 - skaffanl (07/22/2013) [-]
I don't understand. So going to the Middle East and try to bring democracy to their dictatorship and prevent extremist religious parties from gaining too much power is the same as defending U.S. citizens? I do not think the American military's primary focus is defending U.S. citizens when you're forcing a way of governing on an entire nation. I don't even know how you can justify it. I mean when the Soviet Union tried to convert countries to communism they probably thought they were doing what's best while America was heavily doubting that. So what makes this "bringing democracy" so much more justified than the Soviets "bringing communism". I remember recalling that America armed Afghanistan forces just so Afghanistan wouldn't become a communist country while the Soviets were also trying to prevent dictatorship and extremist religious parties from gaining too much power back then. I also remember recalling that the weapons the Americans gave to those Afghan warriors were later used against Americans themselves by Al Qaida nonetheless. Good job protecting U.S. citizens.   
   
I'd say the American Military's primary focus is control over as much as possible. The American military has more than 20 permanent army bases all over the world. There are 0 permanent foreign army bases within U.S. borders. Looks like a little bit more than protecting U.S. citizens to me. But maybe I have prejudice so of course I am open to a fair discussion without resulting to name-calling.
I don't understand. So going to the Middle East and try to bring democracy to their dictatorship and prevent extremist religious parties from gaining too much power is the same as defending U.S. citizens? I do not think the American military's primary focus is defending U.S. citizens when you're forcing a way of governing on an entire nation. I don't even know how you can justify it. I mean when the Soviet Union tried to convert countries to communism they probably thought they were doing what's best while America was heavily doubting that. So what makes this "bringing democracy" so much more justified than the Soviets "bringing communism". I remember recalling that America armed Afghanistan forces just so Afghanistan wouldn't become a communist country while the Soviets were also trying to prevent dictatorship and extremist religious parties from gaining too much power back then. I also remember recalling that the weapons the Americans gave to those Afghan warriors were later used against Americans themselves by Al Qaida nonetheless. Good job protecting U.S. citizens.

I'd say the American Military's primary focus is control over as much as possible. The American military has more than 20 permanent army bases all over the world. There are 0 permanent foreign army bases within U.S. borders. Looks like a little bit more than protecting U.S. citizens to me. But maybe I have prejudice so of course I am open to a fair discussion without resulting to name-calling.
User avatar #327 to #281 - thehans (07/22/2013) [-]
yes we gave the middle east weapons in the 80"s but you know why? because they were fighting the russians and the enemy of my enemy is my friend. so we were temporarily allies. but then they started using those weapons against israel because of some dumbass thousand year holy war that they are still butthurt about. so we went back to being enemies. and the big reason we actually invaded was to ASSURE that they did not have any weapons of mass destructon because you know that any member of the taliban would destroy the entire western culture with a push of a button. we dont have as many troops marching on american soil because the taliban doesnt have to be in america to destroy america.
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#11 to #9 - anon (07/21/2013) [-]
They are not defending US citizens.

If they want to protect my rights, my freedoms, my liberties and my privacy they'd be marching down Washington not Baghdad.
User avatar #158 to #11 - crazyhindu (07/22/2013) [-]
well you're kind of right.
User avatar #309 to #9 - scorcho ONLINE (07/22/2013) [-]
>try and bring democracy to their dictatorship
>prevent religious parties from gaining to much power
>oil is probably a factor too
>probably a factor
>a factor

top lel.
User avatar #328 to #309 - thehans (07/22/2013) [-]
i mean we arent stealing the oil as far as i know. you know why there are so many rich ************* in saudi arabia? because we BUY the oil from them, and its called business.
also, fun fact: most of our oil comes from alaska, canada, and venezuela. only about 10% comes from the middle east
#214 to #8 - anon (07/22/2013) [-]
>Implying they had freedom there in the first place.
User avatar #37 to #7 - pabloenis (07/21/2013) [-]
'MURICA INDEPENDENCE
lol
#107 to #6 - anon (07/22/2013) [-]
It doesnt matter why the government sent them there. All that matters is that they signed onto a job where you go in knowing you may die, and Any person who is willing to sacrifice their life in service to their nation is a hero.
User avatar #298 to #6 - jewfrojustice (07/22/2013) [-]
oil
#14 to #5 - meinneger (07/21/2013) [-]
"an hero" refers to someone who's commited suicide

i could go the low road and call you a newfag, but your name is waaaay bluer than mine
#192 to #14 - Seanxone (07/22/2013) [-]
not sure why that netted you so much red, you were right about what it means
#336 to #192 - meinneger (07/24/2013) [-]
funnyjunk is full of newfags mate, but the content is good so i deal with it
#10 to #5 - taurusguy ONLINE (07/21/2013) [-]
Dont try and make all of them seem like heroes, some of them are just assholes looking for a quick buck.
#271 to #10 - revanthewin (07/22/2013) [-]
That is one of the dumbest things I think I've heard anyone say, ever.

Soldiers basically become military property, devote years of their lives to serving, and risk their lives out in some desert. Not exactly what I'd call a "quick buck". Not to mention that a military salary doesn't really pay all that well, all things considered.
#308 to #271 - taurusguy ONLINE (07/22/2013) [-]
I have no idea what they pay in America, but in my country military gets almost paid the most (except politicians and such) no doctor's nobody, soldiers get paid more, and if you die your family gets paid.
User avatar #326 to #308 - revanthewin (07/22/2013) [-]
In America they don't get paid much, the logic behind that being that they don't have to pay for food or a home. Then of course when they get back the government tries to cheat them out of all their veteran benefits.
#304 to #5 - anon (07/22/2013) [-]
Dying doesn't make you a hero it merely shows the respect you had for the people you tried to defend. A hero is someone who was able to defend those people and instead of trying to save hundreds is able to save one.
#191 - vonboon (07/22/2013) [-]
plz tell me she really died
plz tell me she really died
#32 - beroty (07/21/2013) [-]
Ham?
#23 - itsnotbutter **User deleted account** (07/21/2013) [-]
While I do agree being a soldier doesnt automatically make you a hero, it does quite upset me that people consider the death of a ****** reality star more tragic than the death of someone fighting for what they believe in (whether or not its actually a great cause)
#170 to #23 - anon (07/22/2013) [-]
It's not always their beliefs they're fighting for. It's also a pretty good career decision, especially if you have limited prospects. I mean you get great benefits even if you aren't making a whole lot.
#163 to #23 - drakthaal (07/22/2013) [-]
the taliban also believe in what they fight for and are willing to die for their beliefs should we respect them as well?
#323 to #163 - itsnotbutter **User deleted account** (07/22/2013) [-]
Yes, respect and liking them is a whole different thing. Theyre willing to die for what they believe in, that merits respect regardless of their actions. Dont get me wrong, I despise the taliban, terrorists, and all. But I respect them.
User avatar #255 - mysterie (07/22/2013) [-]
was the ham ok?
User avatar #269 to #255 - mdmazing (07/22/2013) [-]
The ham died man... it didn't survive the monstrosity
#303 - Bacula (07/22/2013) [-]
Comment Picture
#274 - acehades (07/22/2013) [-]
i'm not even american and i know this **** be false
#207 - pwnmissilereborn **User deleted account** (07/22/2013) [-]
Boom, new reaction pic.
User avatar #44 - craxxet (07/21/2013) [-]
It's been said in a similar post not long ago, so I'll just quote:

"Because casualties are expected in war."

Doesn't really explain how people avoid to realize that people who smoke 2 packs a day / are extremely overweight / like to climb mountains without equipment might not be around for too long..
User avatar #313 to #44 - scorcho ONLINE (07/22/2013) [-]
those people do not climb a mountain with the intention to kill or get killed. retarded argument.
User avatar #317 to #313 - craxxet (07/22/2013) [-]
No, but they still expose themselves to an obvious risk for prestige and/or money, which is less than you can say about a soldier who fights because he has to, not because he wants to.

Retarded attempt at a rebuttal.
#56 - jcruikjcruik (07/22/2013) [-]
>overdoses on ham
User avatar #282 - choclategum (07/22/2013) [-]
I actually believed the second one at first, i **** you not. I thought she overdosed on ham.

I am not a clever girl.

She's fat, that's my excuse
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