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#18 - tehrox
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(07/20/2013) [-]
The Nordic countries are a very homogeneous society while the USA is very diverse, so they are two completely different situations and cannot be treated the same way
#110 to #18 - SpilledMeBeans
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We also have 300 million people. Way too many for this to work.
#140 to #110 - anon
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Only that's not true and you're just another parasite clinging to the broken system.
#46 to #18 - anon
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(07/20/2013) [-]
And so this argument is now lost and everyone will move on with their lives and the cycle will continue...
#106 to #18 - anon
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(07/20/2013) [-]
As a student from one of the mentioned Nordic countries, I whole-heartedly agree with tehrox's response, and I absolutely do not appreciate the creator of this comic trying to belittle the systems of other countries.
#139 to #18 - anon
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(07/20/2013) [-]
HAHAHAHAHAHA! Sweden? Homogeneous!?

Look, the point still stands. Americas economic future is dim because you've sold out this entire generation. America can't manage itself properly.
#176 to #18 - anon
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(07/20/2013) [-]
Different situations? That is your defense for not giving away the education for free?
In what way would education for all make it worse? Probably worse for the people with the money, the people in charge, but education sets you free...and if i remember correctly USA love their freedom?



#226 to #18 - anon
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(07/20/2013) [-]
Wrong
#228 to #18 - anon
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I have been to both and seen no difference, apart form there see to be more police in America and people claiming god hates fags...
#287 to #18 - anon
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(07/20/2013) [-]
Exactly we cant have ******* and spics become smart. Let us whites think we're on top while the Jews and Japs run every ******* thing. 'Merica.
#314 to #18 - anon
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(07/20/2013) [-]
>Germany
That argument doesn't hold well. Especially since you're making it more homogeneous by having everyone get an education and increasing social mobility.
#334 to #18 - anon
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(07/20/2013) [-]
That's not even close to an answer about why education is so ******* expensive and military and prisons are more important than a good education...
#353 to #18 - niggernazi
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(07/20/2013) [-]
the ******* in the nordic countries are increasing
#350 to #18 - hinedodmansmith **User deleted account**
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#147 to #18 - craxxet
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(07/20/2013) [-]
Not really true in regards to population, the last 5 years Sweden has taken in more or less a half million people that are either running from famine war or catastrophy or just looking for a job.

Since our "native" (not really fond of the term, but it will have to do) population barely even reproduces I wouldn't be surprised if the distribution of people from different places look similar to the states within some years.

I agree on the "treated" point although..
#230 to #18 - drastronomy
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(07/20/2013) [-]
here you are wrong

fukken 50% here are ***********, 20% are polish, 10% are africans, and 20% are norwegians...we are just as diverse as you guys
#74 to #18 - gammajk
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(07/20/2013) [-]
"This would work, except we simply have too many *******"
-tehrox
i kid of course
#164 to #74 - wyattgc
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(07/20/2013) [-]
Actually that is a very major reason. African-Americans have by far the worst test scores on average of any race in the US. (Don't bother saying the reasons why this is anyone, I am well aware).
#371 to #164 - anon
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(07/20/2013) [-]
It's still possible, you just dont want to pay more taxes.
#192 to #164 - anon
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(07/20/2013) [-]
Because many were raised in worse condition than whites, you ******* racist.
#208 to #192 - kevinenter
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(07/20/2013) [-]
All wyattgc did was state a statistic. That's not racist.
#211 to #208 - wyattgc
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#483 to #192 - katsikis
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**katsikis rolled a random image posted in comment #6 at Plum Ass ** think about what you said, and then you'll realize who the real racist is
#210 to #192 - wyattgc
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How is that any excuse? They have every possibility to go from dirt poor to successful, look at Bill Cosby, Chris Gardner, Malcolm, Michael Jordan, Marcus Garvey, ect. All were raised in a better financial environment than I was, I can assure you. That aside is the parenting of the individual that makes all the difference. Take Bill Cosby for example, in all his stand-up comedy he always talked about his mother and how strict she was, now compare that to say, Trayvon Martin, he was expelled from school twice, and his record is littered with offenses at the age of 17 mind you. Now Cosby's mother would have never allowed half of that, no matter the circumstances.

There are many good black parents, likewise, there are many bad white parents. However, when it comes down to it, their success is typically the result in their upbringing. You can make whatever excuse you want, but none of the successful people I named would not let any of those excuses stand in their way.

“First your parents, they give you your life, but then they try to give you their life.”
― Chuck Palahniuk
#387 to #210 - anon
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(07/20/2013) [-]
I agreed with you, then you posted this ******* quote.
It's ********.
The majority of people can't just dig their own way out of a gutter. Sure, a lot can, and you get a small population of successful blacks, but switch the roles and put whites in the ghetto, go back in time and make whites the slave and blacks the masters and then we have this issue of all these damn white folks committing crimes and raping black women.
#200 to #192 - anon
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Who do you think raised them? It doesn't take a genius to value education. There are plenty of wealthy white idiots who undervalue to prove that its not just wealth.
#58 - oddesy
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You can not compare a group of nations amounting to approximately 25,700,000 people with a similar economic model that differs from the secondary element which contains some 320.000,000 people, especially with the economic diversity and economic difference between the two.

And before you HURR DURR AMERIFAT me, I'm a Ukrainian native, American immigrant, born in Keiv and raised in Odessa until the mid 1990s when I moved to and completed grades 8-12 in the United States. I visit Ukraine every year, and have been to nearly every nation in Europe over the years. I may not be an Economic professor, a Political Scientist, or anything (professionally) in that area, but I'd like to think I have a well rounded knowledge in the area.

The United States has the highest GPD in the world currently at about 16 billion GDP.
They ALSO spend the most on education in the world at about $810 billion. With a population of 320 million, 27% are currently enrolled in school. That means about 86.4 million students re currently enrolled in school, but that does not necessarily mean PUBLIC school. All said and done with all numbers done, the US government expends an average of $11,467 per student in the public school system. How much does Finland spend?

$7,500 per student, though this number might be somewhat outdated

Why do they produce better scores? Less restrictive schooling. Less diverse, less low-income areas per person. More relaxed. That would be my guess.

TL;DR: ******, biased and graph without context is ******, and facts need to dictate issues.

I will admit freely that they certainly have a MUCH better school system than us, but this graph without any background knowledge is ****.
#303 to #58 - demandred
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Correct me if i'm wrong but:
in the US there's people who want to go to college, but doesn't have money for it.
In Norway there's even people going to college because of the money they get for it.
#128 to #58 - Whitenleaf
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(07/20/2013) [-]
The graph you posted proves only that no matter how much money the American government pumps into education, the American populace is doomed to be stupid. Despite having a multi-billion dollar advantage over the other countries, the American test scores are among the bottom few.
#234 to #58 - bandage
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(07/20/2013) [-]
Finfag here.

''Less diverse, less low-income areas per person. More relaxed.''

True, but that less low-income areas per person are a result of education.

That 7,500$ isn't much, since it includes the teacher's pay. So there isn't much to spend around. And up to 9th grade, all the necessary like books, pens and such are in that 7,500$. There are very few extracurricular activities in schools and most of them cost only the teacher's pay, because children need adult supervision and parents need to pay if there's something little more extra (hence the lack of extracurricular activities, people like to do that **** on their own time and not supervisioned by school). Finnish schools don't waste money because there's very little to spend. With very little money to cope with, Finnish schools's relaxed atmosphere and very flexible style weren't intended, they just sort of happened. American schools waste so damn much money on unnecessary things (for example, bands and sports teams contribute very little to actual learning).

We have much better education, because we are more open minded to sciences (most Finns are christian, but very few are actually into religional stuff) and don't have that ****** bunch of dumb ******** you call Catholics who mix religion and education.

American teachers seem to do a lot of work, but teacher's have to do a ******** of work during their free time here in Finland. So they don't get paid as much as they actually do work. Money saved there again.

Now the best accident that happened is that Finns discovered that short school and work days produce far more than long and excruciating ones. 6 hours of intense schooling beats the hell out of 8-10 hours, because human's don't have capabilities to concentrate long. And by the way, 6 hours per day costs way less.

So to sum it up, it's always about the money. Finns are like Hermes from Futurama: we try to get the best possible as cheap and efficient as possible.
#241 to #234 - bandage
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And as a business school student, I can say that GPD is too inaccurate to measure a country as big as USA. Rich people make poor people look wealthier than they are.
#377 to #241 - anon
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(07/20/2013) [-]
then add progressive taxation! problem solved.
#404 to #377 - bandage
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It really doesn't solve the inaccuracy. My point was that using GDP to measure anything (except economy and things related to it) is like using a globe as a navigation device.
#252 to #241 - anon
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Thanks. I'm a Finnish teacher and that pretty much sums it.

(No way in hell I would admit visiting this site in public though. My students would go *******!)
#166 to #58 - dinosaurloving
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Gene?????
#266 to #58 - mutzaki
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Or maybe it's as simple as Americans having an inherited hatred and fear of socialism.
#321 to #266 - anon
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Nah, no way.
There's totally nothing remaining from the cold war.
#134 to #58 - anon
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Well, [url deleted]
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#198 to #58 - anon
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*Kiev
#373 to #58 - anon
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I will enjoy seeing US crash and burn, just wait.
#121 to #58 - keroberios
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As much as I agree with this, I also want to point something out.
With the massive amount of people living in the USA, it would not be hard to bump up taxes slightly to make sure you didn't start your life at -$20,000(minimum 2 year education cost mostly) with high interest stacked on top.
Even living in Canada, if we adopted the free higher education system for more taxes I might actually consider taking university/college level courses. Not to mention I wouldn't mind living in a land where they look into making a generation smarter, not broke and dumber.
Not to mention the US wouldn't even have to raise taxes to pull this off, just cut military funding. Because all you guys do with that **** is invade other countries for decades-long wars that ultimately result in nothing happening other than money being spent and your people being dead now.

I just don't see why it costs so damn much to make sure that you get an education good enough that you can function in society. ESPECIALLY since everyone expects you to have it. It is due to a lack of respect for the educated in modern western society that has resulted in some of the dumbest **** of the last decade.
We should praise intelligence, not belittle it.
#175 to #121 - WtfStrawberries
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I whole heartedly agree with you. I live in America, and am about to go to college.
Everyone EXPECTS you to have a degree. Or you wont be able to get manyjobs because of that, but it'd take years to pay off the debt accumulated through having to pay for college. I don't understand how so much is spent on military, when it is largely unnecessary, while many young people here can't even afford to go to college, and choose to opt out of it because of that. It makes me sad for our generation and future generations to come.
#154 to #58 - makomirocket ONLINE
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GDP doesn't mean ****, GDP per Capita is what counts. I mean, Saudi Arabia has a high GDP, but that is given to the top 0.1% of the population who own the companies and live in Dubai, then you have the rest of the population living poor
#62 to #58 - oddesy
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And before someone points out there is a dependency between my graph and the supplied number in terms of the spending per US/Finnish/any student, this graph supplies spending per student, not per public school student I believe.

Heres some sources to my information.

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nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=372

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#42 - outerfiend
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OH **** HERE WE GO.
#61 - anon
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Atleast the US isn't shaped like a dick
#302 to #61 - sackit
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"It is not how you look which matters, its who you are inside which really counts"

So you a the real dick
#405 to #302 - anon
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fag
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#430 to #405 - sackit
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Look at the picture UNDER me by kangster
Who is hte fag now huh?
#97 to #61 - steeedan
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rofl, ****** anon, at it again!
#384 to #61 - kahandran
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Behold, gents. The best comeback in all of history.
#389 to #61 - anon
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Just Florida
#433 to #61 - anon
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Florida
#500 to #61 - Laddie
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#501 to #61 - anon
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at least they dont act like dicks...
#507 to #501 - anon
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I bet you thought that was terribly clever.
#170 to #61 - usernameluisdjlols
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(07/20/2013) [-]
tell that to florida
#125 to #61 - slickwilly
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(07/20/2013) [-]
Hilariously perfect 'Merica response. Well done, Anon. Well done.
Hilariously perfect 'Merica response. Well done, Anon. Well done.
#172 to #61 - kangster
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#81 - mummyslittlebitch
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(07/20/2013) [-]
>implying the average educated American doesn't already feel this way

So what the **** do you expect us peasants to do about it?
#127 to #81 - notafunnyguy
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(07/20/2013) [-]
revolt

like every other country thats being ****** by its government does
#159 to #127 - wersand
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The main problem with revolution in American is that we are a lot more spread out than our closest other examples of countries (the European ones). We don't have public transportation to get us to a place to organize and the ones that need to organize can't afford to miss a day of work, and they already cannot afford a car. Their wages are low enough to claim it as indentured servitude, and the big corporations just keep looking for more ways to cut wages. We are also kept on the level of complacency by what little welfare system we do have.

I wish that the welfare system should be completely stopped, not because I don't think these people need to go hungry, but because people fight back when they are starving.
#471 to #127 - anon
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It's not that simple. Colleges are the ones making the money, not the government. If we want to try to get the government to make colleges be free, then most right-winged conservatives will say it's socialism and shoot it down. On top of that, even if the general public wanted it to, there is no guarantee that it will pass congress. Remember the attempt at universal background checks on guns? That had a close to %82 support, but it was rejected by congress.
#419 to #127 - anon
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Yes, let's revolt against a government that spends 700 billion dollars every year on it's military.
#440 to #419 - rieskimo
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I have a lot of military friends from all branches, there're whispers of revolt all the time(of course there are when we just wallow in our own ****).

Every single military person I know who have mentioned revolt said that there is not a chance that they would fire upon a fellow citizen of this country.
#452 to #440 - mummyslittlebitch
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It's not the military people are afraid of. It's the police.
#173 - axtinguisher
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Öbligatöry pöst whenever Scändinäviä is mentiöned.
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#355 to #173 - niggernazi
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#70 - makotoitou
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Murifat middle class Republican here: It's about earning your worth. If I work hard then I can pay my loans be fine. If I build a successful college I'm entitled to offer my service of education at a price I see fit. I earned my money and right to keep my money and not have it taxed away to someone that failed multiple times. Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow?
#98 to #70 - muchasmarcos
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Um if someone fails a year then they have to pay for it.
It's not all for free.
#465 to #70 - GEARBOY
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(07/20/2013) [-]
I think you've been playing a bit too much Bioshoch mate..
#143 to #70 - srskate
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>implying that the US doesn't already tax you to help others
>implying your success is completely your own, and not a product of luck and presumably being white
>implying the money goes to failures and not those who will succeed but were born into ****** situations and need help
#76 to #70 - willysbilly ONLINE
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(07/20/2013) [-]
Except that success is rarely dependent upon the sweat on one man's brow. Life isn't a fair landscape or game where some people fail and some people win based on their own grit and determination. I won;t pretend that taxation is executed perfectly or that some people don;t abuse the system, but most of the time your money isn't going to someone who failed on their own accord, but to somebody whose life has left them disadvantaged. My brother costs taxpayers about $100,000 a year because he is dirt poor and needs treatment for highly malignant pancreatic cancer. Did he fail?
#163 - eyeballfrog
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#309 - goodmusiclover
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Flagged. No propaganda on funnyjunk.
#342 to #309 - Einsty
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Your picture is propaganda you hypocrite.
#1 - crazyolitis
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(07/19/2013) [-]
I never really understood why the American government wants to make money off students. In the end, it's more profitable to invest in the young people than to take their money right away. I mean think about it: Students go to college and get a degree. They are able to get a high-end job, meaning they earn more money and can be taxed more. Then, the goverment has got more money for all sorts of things.

Also, I've heard that, unless you get a university grade education, you can basically only flip burgers. To any Americans: is that true? Legitimate question.
#2 to #1 - anon
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I've got a GED and I do welding and machinist work. I get over a thousand a week in hourly wages. College isn't necessary anymore as having a degree doesn't guarantee a job it just puts you a little higher on the list of applicants.

And people still come to this country for a better education.
#3 to #2 - crazyolitis
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Heard that even though your high school education is FUBAR, you universities are quite good. Maybe because of that?
#15 to #3 - combatplatypus
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That's pretty much it. We have mediocre high schools, but almost all of the best universities.

Also, even for the high schools, the average quality gets skewed to hell by the inner city and deep south schools. Our normal schools are perfectly adequate, but better than the countries that people emigrate from.
#16 to #15 - crazyolitis
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(07/19/2013) [-]
Thanks for the explanation, man. Have a thumb.
#34 to #1 - useroftheLOLZ
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There are a metric **** ton of scholarships available for students, when I was looking to go to college, I found I was eligible for 5,000$ in scholarships, and that was just for one year, there are also numerous programs that offer "full rides".

The problem is that in America, people are getting degrees in fields that are saturated with students, degrees like computer and technology, political and law degrees, Mathematics, and so on. These are popular degrees, and as such, the student degree market is absolutely saturated with people with these degrees. However, you can easily get a 250,000$ a year, job, straight out of college by getting some of the lesser known degrees, **** like nano mechanics, astro physics, bio mechanics, theoretical physics and applied mechanics, **** that is in the territory of borderline science fiction is where all the jobs are, and students are not taking these jobs because they are difficult to get. Hell, event he military is contracting the **** out of students with special, mechanical degrees, so that we can further strengthen the military, don't believe me? A couple of years ago, the Navy went out of it's way to contract students with mechanical, engineering, and electrical degrees, so that they could start developing rail guns, and Gauss cannons, like the ones we are attaching to battleships, and aircraft carriers.

So it's really not the governments fault per say, it's the moronic student body.
#202 to #1 - anon
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elevator installation/repair men make 6 figures. underwater wielders make down right stupid amounts of money. obscure trade jobs can be very high paying. trade jobs in general offer good pay. or, you can go to a university and spend more then $100,000 and get a 4 year degree in engineering or something computer based and make a lot of money. and thhhhhhen you can do the same thing but get a major in philosophy. in which case you have up and ****** yourself. "i cant believe i cant find a job! im a college grad with a double bachelors in Flemish and The Classics!" swear to god actually heard that sentence come out a girls mouth.
#323 to #1 - anon
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Because **** the long term
#482 to #1 - anon
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(07/20/2013) [-]
For the most part yes unless you are lucky or have a lot of experience.
#209 to #1 - lazerdude
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Unfortunately, yes. I'm beginning my senior year of high school and I live in one of the major cities in the United States. Most of my friends are not going to college because they just can't afford it. I can't afford it, and my family income is considered around middle/high-middle class. You have very few choices: Go to college if you're lucky; Go to a technical school; join the military (free ride for college); graduate high school (grade 9-12) and work somewhat decent jobs like corrections officer, fireman, etc etc; or drop out and do nothing and smoke weed all day like other people I know
Tl;dr
If you don't become famous, can't pay for school, or join the military, you got a tough like ahead of you.
I'm joining the military
#6 to #1 - nerdreaper
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Another issue right now is the lack of jobs. With so few "high end" job openings all of the new graduates have to compete with the old experienced graduates. So even if you do place your self into dept you still end up flipping burgers. At the local Burger King 5 workers have BS in science/engineering and 2 in language/literature.