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Batman vs Joker Explained

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I tried explaining to my girlfriend why the Batman ean' t kill the Joker and .
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Care to explain? I don' t know either.
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They are fighting an ideological battle for each other' s soul. They are both two sides of the same coin:
Two individuals who, because of a horrible day in their lives, became insane and decided to take en the werld and
make it in their image.
The joker was a ****** comedian with a pregnant wife, a nice guy. On the day his wife died in a random accident he
was bullied by mobsters into committing a crime, fell into a vat of chemicals and ended up alone, in pain, and scarred
for life. The overall pain was such that he snapped.... realized that the werld is cruel, unjust and random and decided
he was going to destroy all fabric of the attempted, false, order of the werld and break everyine down
to his level. He believes morals, ethics, are hypocritical nonsense. You ISBN refer to the Dark Knight movie, in which
he says "I' m just ahead of the curve." He spends the entire movie putting everyine in front of him in situations
where, to survive, they will have to break their merel code. Even the henchmen of the black guy... there are twe. For
no reasen other than to break them, he says he will hire the ene whe will kill the other.
This is what the Jeger does, he lives to prave to peeple that he is the avatar of whe they really are: he
just refuses to lie to himself.
Batman watched his parents be murdered, went insane also and developed several obsessions, he fights to bring
justice to a werld he feels is essentially good and plagued by the unnatural disease of crime and evil. He believes in
justice above everything else, he does not kill.
Se what happens when these we men face each ether? The Joker' s ultimate victory is for the Batman, the
strangest enemy of his werld view, a persin whe refuses no matter what to break down to his level, to kill him. He
wants the Batman to kill him. He ean' t wait for Batman to do it. It will prave his paint: anyine ISBN be broken into evil,
just like him, if their pain er their reasons are strong enough.
Meanwhile the Batman is facing sameone whe is the epitemy of cruelty and senseless crime. He HAS to beat the Joker
according to his rules, to prave to himself that his rules mean samething, that they are absolute. And this is a decision
he has to face every time he eater's the Joker: do I kill him? Hew many lives will I save if I just kill him? He always
escapes Arkham.... I will be doing a good thing by ridding this werld of this supremely deranged psychopath. If only
he could break his morals in this ene ease.... this one time... fbr the greater good....
The Joker knows this. And he laughs. And he hepes.
But he also has to deal with the temptation... without the Batman he would be virtually unstoppable. Even in the werld
of DC Comics where there is Super Man, other supervillains fear him. They steer clear of him. He is tee
unpredictable, chaotic, and cruel. If only he were to kill the Batman, there is nobody out there whe understands him
enough to be able to stop him. If only he could kill the Batman... everything would be simple.
They are fighting a deeply personal, deeply ideological war. They each represent what the other ene hates the
most, and they each depend en the other to stay alive until the other bends to his will.
The last each ene of them wants is to kill the other.
It is pettie.
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#8 - sickboi (07/18/2013) [+] (2 replies)
mfw people who just dont understand the love I have for Batman and the Joker read this post
#13 - sweetnothings (07/18/2013) [+] (3 replies)
Christopher Nolan's The Dark Knight alludes a lot as to why they don't just kill each other:

"Come on, I want you to do it, I want you to do it. Come on, hit me. *Hit me!* "

" I took Gotham’s white knight, and brought him down to our level. It wasn’t hard. Y’see, madness, as you know, is like gravity. All it takes is a little…push. "

"You’ll see, I’ll show you, that when the chips are down, these uh… civilized people, they’ll eat each other. "

"Kill you? I don’t want to kill you! What would I do without you? Go back to ripping off mob dealers? No, no, you… you complete me. "

"You just couldn’t let me go could you? This is what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object. You truly are incorruptible aren’t you? You won’t kill me out of some misplaced sense of self-righteousness, and I won’t kill you, because you’re just too much fun. I think you and I are destined to do this forever. "
#28 - bewts (07/18/2013) [+] (4 replies)
I still completely refuse to believe that that is The Joker's official backstory, because the idea of him having NO backstory is exactly what makes him the greatest villain of all time.

In almost every adaptation or comic run, he just comes out of nowhere. He hints, strongly, at being someone The Batman used to know (usually The Red Hood), but this it is never confirmed or denied. He is also given a completely different backstory every time he offers one up, which adds to the idea that even The Joker has no idea where the **** he came from.
#25 - xslayerxzxx (07/18/2013) [+] (3 replies)
Getting real tired of your **** Mr. Wayne
#53 - neexx (07/18/2013) [-]
#9 - lolmasterx (07/18/2013) [+] (6 replies)
It's been implied several times in the comics that Batman and The Joker are reincarnations of an ancient conflict, perhaps even biblical.
So that's neat.
#55 - undeadwill ONLINE (07/18/2013) [+] (1 reply)
The joker is meant to be a creation that is like Batman only that in that the joker lost all he had. He's the batman with just one bad day added in where he lost everything that he loved. He was given that one last push that killed who ever he was.

Batman is still Bruce because he never lost everything but the joker had nothing in the past. They were both nobody till they added one more push. Batman's push made him the Batman and yet he was able to put the cape away and remain Bruce at the end of the night. But the joker's final push made him push back in every way he had been pushed. Because if the joker ever stopped pushing back he would return to that shell he was as the early full on emptiness and despair.

The joker is who he is because the alternative is to be nothing at all. And it is the world biggest joke that he is something from nothing. And nothing all the same.

(I repost this from time from time case someone hasn't seen it)
#58 - ballerfifteen (07/18/2013) [+] (12 replies)
batman does kill the joker in the dark knight returns. I think that batman in his old age just had enough of the clown prince
batman does kill the joker in the dark knight returns. I think that batman in his old age just had enough of the clown prince
#131 - flufflepuff (07/18/2013) [+] (2 replies)
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#101 - anonymous (07/18/2013) [+] (4 replies)
Or... you know... maybe he's reading wayyyyy too ******* far into it and it's not that deep?
#109 to #101 - captainreposty (07/18/2013) [-]
Or... You know... Maybe you're mind is a very narrow, enclosed cave unwilling to look into something, unwilling to read between the lines.

I weep for you.
#73 - newforomador ONLINE (07/18/2013) [+] (2 replies)
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The Batman Chronicles - Official Teaser
#19 - brothergrimm (07/18/2013) [+] (18 replies)
i still wonder what would happen is THIS bane and the joker came into contact...... the thought is very interesting with infinite possibilities
User avatar #24 to #19 - wrocky ONLINE (07/18/2013) [-]
bane was just a pawn, he had someone giving instructions to him, joker planned these things on his own, but he'd lose on a 1v1 stand up streetfight no doubt
#44 - MaverickZero ONLINE (07/18/2013) [-]
Meanwhile, in Asgard...
#108 - vonspyder (07/18/2013) [+] (2 replies)
#56 - anonymous (07/18/2013) [+] (1 reply)
but why doesn't Joker kill Batman?
User avatar #60 to #56 - aldothenazi (07/18/2013) [-]
Cause he wants to see Batman break his moral code by killing him.
#74 - doodogger (07/18/2013) [+] (8 replies)
Ok why the **** doesn't batman kill the **** out of the joker already?

Does the joker have billions of dollars of training and equipment under his belt?

User avatar #86 to #74 - kynrayn (07/18/2013) [-]
Red thumb just for being a ******* .
User avatar #113 - lightninghedgehog (07/18/2013) [-]
here, batman explains it himself at the 1:30 mark Batman Under The Red Hood - Ending Scene [Good Quality]
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