Americans vs Brits. . American ALT British ALT. Because all American public schools are like Detroit, and all the British ones look like palaces.
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#8 - pappathethird (07/13/2013) [-]
ooh britania
#35 to #8 - timmity (07/13/2013) [-]
oi, britania means the area of which the british isles are. forgetting someone? the republic of ireland may be small, but we do own most of the second largest island. also, please join the eurozone, it would help us very much
also, i found this creepily realisticly drawn ireland polandball
#142 to #35 - anon (07/13/2013) [-]
Shut up before we take your potatoes again, you drunk.
#145 to #142 - doubledisme (07/13/2013) [-]
I can make an IRA joke but I think that would hurt your feelings
MURRICA GOT YO BACK
User avatar #329 to #142 - conordalymcr (07/13/2013) [-]
I'll be quiet
User avatar #144 to #142 - timmity (07/13/2013) [-]
actually you gave us potatos
#14 to #8 - motion (07/13/2013) [-]
Thats pretty much as English as a picture can be
#17 to #14 - zomitlu (07/13/2013) [-]
I beg to differ
#72 to #17 - mattkingg **User deleted account** (07/13/2013) [-]
Comment Picture
#302 to #17 - chupiter (07/13/2013) [-]
I can't look away. It's dragging me in.
I can't look away. It's dragging me in.
#295 to #17 - anon (07/13/2013) [-]
but... walkers is actually lays... which is american... i'm confused
User avatar #303 to #295 - linktheherooftime (07/13/2013) [-]
Lays bought out the Walkers company, but they decided to keep the name. It's kinda weird that I would know this though. Seeing as how I'm an American, and I only read about that once.
#62 - qxangelxp (07/13/2013) [-]
As a kid, I played The Getaway, this video game on my PS2 that takes place in London.
There was a mission where I had to stealthily find a room on the "first floor" of the police station. So I went in the building, and thoroughly searched the bottom floor for this room. No such luck, I ended up lost, noticed, and subsequently killed. There seemed to be no hope in sight, so I decided to explore some more, knowing this room had to be somewhere. It was up the stairs on the floor above the "ground floor".

At this very moment in time I thought to myself, who in the ******* didney worl thought it was a good idea to call a floor up the "first" floor? It didn't make any sense to my young mind, but I had guessed it was just a UK thing.
#191 to #62 - anon (07/13/2013) [-]
You go up 1 flight of stairs to get to the first floor.

Walking into a building, you're still just on the ground, so ground floor.

It makes more sense to it like that tbh.
User avatar #268 to #62 - wardd (07/13/2013) [-]
if the ground floor is 1 that makes the first basement floor 0, then -1... wich doesnt make alot of sense. The ground has to be 0.
#283 to #268 - anon (07/13/2013) [-]
You use negative floors? This isn't australia where you stand on the ceiling, guy.
#288 to #283 - wardd (07/13/2013) [-]
are you ******* retarded
#373 to #288 - darkphoenixxx (07/13/2013) [-]
same for romania. but I live in finland atm and they do not have the zero floor.
#183 to #62 - anon (07/13/2013) [-]
In Portugal the ground floor is also the first floor in our buildings
User avatar #352 to #183 - toshietosh (07/13/2013) [-]
Actually no, I live in Portugal and in the building where I live, the ground floor is "0" so it's actually not called "first floor".
#232 - donaldducksdick (07/13/2013) [-]
I am beyond caring about the differences between us Atlantic cousins.
I am beyond caring about the differences between us Atlantic cousins.
#256 - stepsword (07/13/2013) [-]
I learned the first floor bit from Runescape, some guide or quest or something said go to the first floor and I stood around on the ground floor looking like an idiot cause I'm american and first floor doesn't mean climb stairs
#243 - granadablashlack (07/13/2013) [-]
I'm a Brit and I never got the first floor thing, it confused the **** out of me when people said go to the first floor. But I am on the first floor!??!?!
User avatar #327 to #243 - kolpster (07/13/2013) [-]
ground floor.
first floor.
#254 to #243 - scantoz (07/13/2013) [-]
Ground level and first floor is different in Europe lol..
#73 - ineedthistothumb (07/13/2013) [-]
As an American that went to a normal public school, that last one is a gross generalization... I know it's just a joke, but I felt the need to say it.
User avatar #74 to #73 - thelastamerican (07/13/2013) [-]
Everyone knows. It's alright. But why are they comparing hand egg to football?
User avatar #80 to #74 - teoberry (07/13/2013) [-]
Why are they comparing divegrass to football?
User avatar #81 to #80 - thelastamerican (07/13/2013) [-]
Dive ASTROTURF. We're modernized now.
#42 - blakhawk (07/13/2013) [-]
Because all American public schools are like Detroit, and all the British ones look like palaces.
#419 to #42 - anon (07/14/2013) [-]
u butthurt bro? ;)
User avatar #322 to #42 - ghettograndpa (07/13/2013) [-]
Yes
#401 to #42 - anon (07/13/2013) [-]
Allow me to clear up the public school part.

public school
n.
1. An elementary or secondary school in the United States supported by public funds and providing free education for children of a community or district.
2. A private boarding school in Great Britain for pupils between the ages of 13 and 18.
#248 to #42 - anon (07/13/2013) [-]
"Public schools" in Britain are what private ones are here in the US. They cost money.
They are called public schools because they prepare the student for "public" life as a politician or soldier.
User avatar #365 to #248 - olmesy (07/13/2013) [-]
Pretty sure they're called public schools because they're owned by members of the public, not the government
#111 to #42 - anon (07/13/2013) [-]
it's just about words used differently, not a social criticism.
#48 to #42 - thedandude (07/13/2013) [-]
no, in britain public schools are private, state schools are free
User avatar #52 - occamsrazor (07/13/2013) [-]
I went to public school but I'm not a streetwise hooligan
User avatar #78 to #52 - CollinTB (07/13/2013) [-]
You must not have payed attention in AP Slumming.
User avatar #41 - maskedhippo (07/13/2013) [-]
Yeah because all american public schools are **** . Nobody's ever gotten a good education at public school. No.

/sarcasm
#132 to #41 - anon (07/13/2013) [-]
/Butthurt
#189 to #132 - anon (07/13/2013) [-]
I don't see any butthurt. Realistically he is correct, although he's being a partypooper. It's a ******* joke.
#230 - imonaboatman (07/13/2013) [-]
At first I thought, "Oh, wow - an actual, unbiased post comparing the United States and Britain." Then I reached the last panel.
At first I thought, "Oh, wow - an actual, unbiased post comparing the United States and Britain." Then I reached the last panel.
User avatar #234 to #230 - mankey (07/13/2013) [-]
No it actually *is* unbiased. Public school in the UK means private education. I know it's backwards, but that's what we call it. David Cameron is a Public Schoolboy.
#239 to #234 - imonaboatman (07/13/2013) [-]
Oh, okay. Well thank you. Please forgive my ignorance.
Oh, okay. Well thank you. Please forgive my ignorance.
User avatar #250 to #239 - mankey (07/13/2013) [-]
Easy mistake to make if you've not heard of it before.
User avatar #280 to #250 - jacksipian (07/13/2013) [-]
is it just me, or does "state school" sound like a different name for a penitentiary?
#301 to #280 - anon (07/13/2013) [-]
It really is like american public school in that case.
User avatar #304 to #301 - jacksipian (07/13/2013) [-]
lol, touche
#432 to #234 - scousaj (07/14/2013) [-]
It's because those schools are owned by "the public" ie not the government
User avatar #247 to #234 - psyachu (07/13/2013) [-]
Eh, not really. It's kinda showing that public schools in the US are just.... extremely low quality all around and full of violence and unruliness. Now, I won't say that the US public schools are perfect at all, but I had a good education at a public school with minimal problems. Just sayin'.
#249 to #247 - mankey (07/13/2013) [-]
yeah but state schools are always thought to be more unruly than private education. For example, if it was British state schools the example would have a chav in the picture with a switch-knife, and an American Private school would be something like one of those "preppy" guys from the 50's films with a sweater tied around his neck. It's not saying British schools are better than American schools. It's just saying we call the institutions different.

It's purposely using exaggeration to explain it's point.
#257 to #249 - psyachu (07/13/2013) [-]
Good point.
User avatar #236 to #230 - celaeneo (07/13/2013) [-]
Err no. Public school is private.. State school is funded by the government in Britain.
#240 to #236 - imonaboatman (07/13/2013) [-]
I actually did not know that. I feel stupid now.


Here, take this adorable lizard as my apology.
User avatar #277 to #240 - jacksipian (07/13/2013) [-]
aww, its even smiling
#1 - anon (07/13/2013) [-]
What is ALT? I feel as dumb as I should.
#396 to #1 - wildemu (07/13/2013) [-]
A left testicle
#346 to #1 - anon (07/13/2013) [-]
Boku no Pico
#376 to #1 - anon (07/13/2013) [-]
Anonymous Linguistic Transfer. You're doing it right now.
User avatar #103 to #1 - tiltaz (07/13/2013) [-]
Its a button on your keybord dumbass
#171 to #1 - anon (07/13/2013) [-]
Alternative
User avatar #76 to #1 - visiting (07/13/2013) [-]
always low testicles
User avatar #2 to #1 - arandomjoe (07/13/2013) [-]
alternative

means different version
#7 to #1 - anon (07/13/2013) [-]
Atlantic Leopard Team
User avatar #70 to #7 - propanex (07/13/2013) [-]
A lonely tampon
#231 to #70 - anon (07/13/2013) [-]
Aliens Like Tits
#338 - kingbulbasaur (07/13/2013) [-]
I don't get it. Is British public schooling better than private schooling?   
In America, public schooling can either be amazing or really 			******		 depending on 1) what kind of neighborhood you live in and 2) whether or not that school is a 'magnet school', or a school you have to test into (at least in California)   
At the same time, there are both really 			******		 private schools like your generic Christian / Catholic schools that focus on disciplining students as opposed to educating them and top-tier private schools that get you into ivy leagues i.e. Loyola High   
   
TL;DR   
I'm curious as to how schooling is outside of California and the US   
   
Also, this is a new challenger thread.
I don't get it. Is British public schooling better than private schooling?
In America, public schooling can either be amazing or really ****** depending on 1) what kind of neighborhood you live in and 2) whether or not that school is a 'magnet school', or a school you have to test into (at least in California)
At the same time, there are both really ****** private schools like your generic Christian / Catholic schools that focus on disciplining students as opposed to educating them and top-tier private schools that get you into ivy leagues i.e. Loyola High

TL;DR
I'm curious as to how schooling is outside of California and the US

Also, this is a new challenger thread.
User avatar #348 to #338 - theavatarspupil (07/13/2013) [-]
Kentucky public schools focus more on test scores than anything. My high school sections all the dumb/violent/"distracting" kids into a group called The Sterling School" (my town is called Mount Sterling) and they get a free ride through school, iPads for every student, and a free gym membership (they would go every Tuesday and Friday), just so our stupid kids don't take the standardized tests.
User avatar #371 to #338 - animalsgreenberet (07/13/2013) [-]
it's also ******** because it's generalized. my high school had 11 perfect act scores, and some of the nicest technology and **** that money can buy.
#413 to #338 - sellatio (07/14/2013) [-]
In England we use both public school and private school to mean the same thing. What Americans would call public school, we call state school. Weird, I know, but that's how it is.
User avatar #340 to #338 - ryanfitzy (07/13/2013) [-]
What we call "Public" schools here in the United states, is what they call "Private" schools in England,etc.
User avatar #336 - lippai (07/13/2013) [-]
If only british public school was like that...
#333 - anon (07/13/2013) [-]
America is all South side Chicago and Detroit..SHEEEEE
User avatar #237 - itrooztrooperdown (07/13/2013) [-]
Guys. Guys. Hey guys. Stop it guys. I think you didn't get it. Here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_school_%28United_Kingdom%29

Better now?
#300 - hawaiianhappysauce (07/13/2013) [-]
To be perfectly honest, school systems mean jack 			****		.  The smartest people are the ones who pursue topics on their own time, OUTSIDE of school.  I know a ton of people with different skill sets and they have this common trait.  The best programmers, engineers, scientists, and artists learn the skill themselves.  The smartest people I know are home schooled because they learn things on their own as well.  The sad reality is that there are a lot of kids who just don't give a damn about their education and having a ton of them in one school automatically makes the school bad, hell, the biggest entrepreneurs dropped out of college.  Maybe if America had better role models we would have more people caring about high school...   
   
I don't care if i get red thumbs but I'm just sick of other countries bragging about their "better public education system" when the reality is that you can make the best of what you have.
To be perfectly honest, school systems mean jack **** . The smartest people are the ones who pursue topics on their own time, OUTSIDE of school. I know a ton of people with different skill sets and they have this common trait. The best programmers, engineers, scientists, and artists learn the skill themselves. The smartest people I know are home schooled because they learn things on their own as well. The sad reality is that there are a lot of kids who just don't give a damn about their education and having a ton of them in one school automatically makes the school bad, hell, the biggest entrepreneurs dropped out of college. Maybe if America had better role models we would have more people caring about high school...

I don't care if i get red thumbs but I'm just sick of other countries bragging about their "better public education system" when the reality is that you can make the best of what you have.
User avatar #319 to #300 - delphine (07/13/2013) [-]
As a teacher, I can see your point. I teach at a charter school that deals with ELL students, and it's a great school that encourages lifelong learning and voracious reading. But I don't think I would be as happy teaching at a public school, nor would I want to send my kids to one. Public schools are notorious for creating people who see learning as a chore and who hate to read.

You say " Maybe if America had better role models we would have more people caring about high school... " and this is 100% true. The fact is, the strongest roll models a child has is their parents and family. If the parents don't give a **** (and many of them don't) the child doesn't get support or encouragement at home and they are less likely to give a **** about their own education.

Similarly, children who are home schooled (when DJ 4DM1Nistrated properly and not for the reason of keeping your kids sheltered) are often higher achieving because their parents also love learning and pass on their passion for learning to their child. I went to public school, but I also had a mom and dad who worked with me at home, who read stories to me as a kid, who encouraged my artwork, who took me outside and fueled my curiosity for how the world works.
User avatar #323 to #319 - hawaiianhappysauce (07/13/2013) [-]
my mother is a teacher and she says the parents of bad kids are usually worse than the kids. I've heard the following complaints:
1. They want their kid on an IEP when they shouldn't, they are just lazy.
2. They think their kid isn't challenged because they don't want to admit that their child has a problem and/or they are bad parents.
3. They blame the teachers for their kids not doing their homework when the reality is that it's the child's responsibility and if they parents want to see improvement they should try to enforce personal responsibility.
User avatar #331 to #323 - delphine (07/13/2013) [-]
Oh some parents are worst. I've been yelled at, threatened with a law suit, and threatened with violence by parents at my first job.

I feel so lucky at my school now. Most of the parents are immigrants from poorer countries, and even though most of them live below poverty level and can't help their children with homework, they are old-school. They teach their kids that if you want something, you have to work hard for it and you aren't entitled to anything. If a child misbehaves at school, it will not happen again. We have very few behavior issues, which I love and appreciate because I get to spend more time teaching my students and not wasting it with behavior management.
User avatar #415 to #331 - hawaiianhappysauce (07/14/2013) [-]
Nice, I think that's a problem with me, I was born too late. I think I would have been better off being born in the 80's not 90's. I think the last decade of parenting for new parents have been lacking.
#306 to #300 - dynaon (07/13/2013) [-]
To be fair, I agree with this. Some of my greatest skills are the ones that I didn't learn at my school. Mind you, an education is very important, but the schools don't exactly teach you how to code a website all by yourself. I know advanced HTML, CSS, basic Javascript and some PHP, which I plan to use to create a game of my own.

On top of that, I am writing a book that should be complete by the end of this month. Did my teachers ever teach me how to type this way so that I could write efficiently with proper grammar? No, they taught me the stepping stones to embed that into my casual typing. I don't even type the 'right way'. I spent 2 years honing my writing skills before I even starting to think about writing, and another five months of planning out the story.

tl;dr: An education is important, even to a 16 year old like me, but your best skills are the ones you hone outside of class.
User avatar #308 to #306 - hawaiianhappysauce (07/13/2013) [-]
Don't get me wrong, school definitely forces you to be well rounded, but other countries brag about how their school is better at it than the US, which means nothing to me if I decide to learn it myself.
#309 to #308 - dynaon (07/13/2013) [-]
Exactly. Sometimes the best way to make sure you're doing it right is by studying it on your own time, making sure you have the drive to strive for that higher purpose in the topic. School systems don't matter so much, as long as you get the basics. It's where you test your own mettle by taking it one step further and learning skills you love outside of school.
User avatar #312 to #309 - hawaiianhappysauce (07/13/2013) [-]
It's what jobs are actually looking for, people who have interest. I think employers have that as a top priority and people who have experience and skills in the area demonstrate that interest.
#315 to #312 - dynaon (07/13/2013) [-]
That's why learning more is so much fun. Then you have the room to brag a bit. I remember being in my Web Design class where the coders of my school gather to work on the school's official website. I was so surprised when no one knew how to use CSS properly, and I ended up doing the visuals for the entire site.

Makes you feel like you've got a better chance in the world.
User avatar #3 - bobthedilder (07/13/2013) [-]
Could someone explain the first floor bit?
#259 to #3 - anon (07/13/2013) [-]
prob, dumb britts like to count: 0, 1, 2, 3.
while in USA like to count: 1, 2, 3, 4.

silly stupid britts and their disgusting teeth and faggotry tea.
#435 to #259 - anon (07/14/2013) [-]
You are stupid, dude.
#64 to #3 - anisbanana (07/13/2013) [-]
I live in America, but my french teacher taught us that the "first floor" in america is considered the "base floor" in europe. The first floor in europe is the first level after the base floor.
#294 to #64 - anon (07/13/2013) [-]
no, most Europeans consider the 1st floor to be 1st floor, not ground floor.
But then again she is french
#314 to #294 - anisbanana (07/13/2013) [-]
...no they don't.
User avatar #28 to #3 - komandantmirkoo (07/13/2013) [-]
it's not just in the uk. many countries do the ground, 1st, 2nd etc..
#260 to #28 - anon (07/13/2013) [-]
it's not just in the usa. many countries do the 1st, 2nd, 3rd etc..
User avatar #4 to #3 - supniggs (07/13/2013) [-]
In Britain the bottom floor is called the ground floor, while in America it is presumably called the first floor
User avatar #370 to #4 - owmyanus (07/13/2013) [-]
That's wild.
User avatar #358 to #4 - mistafishy (07/13/2013) [-]
It is often the "first floor" in the US, but I honestly see it written both ways depending on what kind of building you're in.

Fancy hotels- English style

General apartments/Buisness centERs- 'Murican style

It goes both ways.
User avatar #5 to #4 - bobthedilder (07/13/2013) [-]
It's weird because these terms can interchangeable here in the U.S. Today I went to the doctor and the the first floor I entered was the ground floor the next floor was the 1st, however in many buildings the floor you enter is the 1st floor.
User avatar #6 to #5 - chituat (07/13/2013) [-]
usually medical facilities go by Ground - 1st - 2nd - etc
#67 to #5 - anon (07/13/2013) [-]
also interchanable in Brittain... the cake is a lie
#326 - anon (07/13/2013) [-]
Fake, those brits have flawless teeth.
#84 - thebritishguy (07/13/2013) [-]
This is my school, it's pretty good but it's all religious
#417 to #84 - anon (07/14/2013) [-]
Wow, you have a lot of faith schools in England, don't you?
User avatar #420 to #417 - thebritishguy (07/14/2013) [-]
1/3 state schools in England is a faith school, sucks balls.
User avatar #97 to #84 - krobeles (07/13/2013) [-]
I may be biased here, but how can a school be good when its religious?
Dosen't the entire 'religion' thing, reject the entire 'education' thing?
User avatar #128 to #97 - LtMcG (07/13/2013) [-]
A religious school is still entitled to teach the required subjects as deemed by the department of education in the state the school resides in. This means they cannot openly decide not teach things like evolution, biology, calculus, etc. They can however, add more courses to the students current requirements in order to graduate specifically from that school. For example, in many Catholic high schools, students will have taken 2 years of Christian studies, 1 year of Jewish studies, and 1 year of Islamic studies.

The exclusive schools in America are actually the religious ones. They have the highest graduation rate and are the biggest feeders into America's Ivy League schools. Furthermore, they generate the most scholarships.
#311 to #97 - anon (07/13/2013) [-]
I went to Catholic school (in the US). My education far exceeded that of my friends in public school. Im an atheist now, but they did good by me. Even learned evolution
User avatar #110 to #97 - MrDeadiron (07/13/2013) [-]
Are you retarded? You do know some of if not most of the finest learning institutions in this country are Christian or religious in some manner.
User avatar #113 to #110 - krobeles (07/13/2013) [-]
'This country' means an aweful lot of things. Which country are you refering to?
User avatar #117 to #113 - MrDeadiron (07/13/2013) [-]
well as the comic only mentions 2 countries you can take a guess
User avatar #120 to #117 - krobeles (07/13/2013) [-]
Between one of those two, this.
I dont want to assume anything though, but i find it hard to believe the statement with both countries, especially Britain.
User avatar #129 to #120 - MrDeadiron (07/13/2013) [-]
Ok lets take the US for an instant most good colleges are Catholic such as Manhattan and Boston.
On the High School level its not even a competition.
Also on the grade school level private and christian schools are on a much higher academic level than most public grade schools.

Im not even religious, Im just objective enough to realize realities of our current situation. Maybe if you pulled your Fedora out of your ass for an instant you'd realize it too.
User avatar #238 to #129 - krobeles (07/13/2013) [-]
Dude. I'm not American. I dont care enough about the education of American citizens to read up on it. I was asking a question from a position of ignorance, and you had to show yourself as enough of a cum stain to make me regret that decision.
Thanks, **** face.
User avatar #313 to #238 - oceanfrank (07/13/2013) [-]
Krobeles, just accept this fact, you're a ******* moron for thinking ANY religion would want to eliminate any form of education, especially Christianity.
User avatar #339 to #313 - krobeles (07/13/2013) [-]
Relax dude.
Would you seriously say that the American christians who are opposed to evolution and critical thinking, aren't trying to do just that?
#357 to #339 - toshietosh (07/13/2013) [-]
Christians are pretty much morons when it comes to common sense, but that doesn't really mean they won't be able to teach you **** that comes in textbooks and what not.
And btw not all christians are those hardcore dumbass anti-everything christians.
#438 to #339 - voidekatwo (07/14/2013) [-]
This guy actually has a huge point, even if he's being a huge dick about it, so stop thumbing him down.
My mother doesn't have any scientific knowledge whatsoever. She knows maths, english, she's a fine artist, and is very clever when it comes to problem solving. She knows **** about science, her school refused to teach it. Every day I teach her a new scientific fact. She went to a very, VERY catholic school, I imagine it was like a prison in there, but yeah, back then in the times where they caned kids, that's what they were like. Incredibly stubborn about scientific facts.
User avatar #350 to #339 - oceanfrank (07/13/2013) [-]
they're just misinformed, very much like you
User avatar #124 to #110 - theantidote (07/13/2013) [-]
Sorry but it is a perfectly viable question when it comes to the argument of evolution etc.
User avatar #131 to #124 - MrDeadiron (07/13/2013) [-]
christian schools recognize evolution so...
User avatar #136 to #131 - theantidote (07/13/2013) [-]
Well we all know how crooked the Christian community has a reputation of being, so for someone who has not experienced a Christian schooling system or someone already in it, then I think it is a fair question, Christians have done worse things than screw up education so why not..
User avatar #137 to #136 - MrDeadiron (07/13/2013) [-]
uhm no they haven't clearly you're not only ignorant of history you're ignorant of current events
#148 to #137 - theantidote (07/13/2013) [-]
Okay, we talking history first..kay
"Christian Civilization is the bloodiest and most violent of all civilizations in all of history"
During the periods alone of the Arians, Donatists and Albigensian heresies millions were tortured and killed..I don't really need to go into detail about the crusades, I'm sure you know what I am talking about, you know, the mass killing of those who differed from opinion (majority Jews, Orthodox Christians, Muslims etc etc)
"According to Daniel Chirot, the Biblical account of Joshua and the Battle of Jericho was used to justify the genocide of Catholics during the Cromwellian conquest of Ireland."
Then you have all the issues arising from the Protestant Reformation which seen mass religious conflict in Britain alone
You get the idea...So, current affairs
How about gay marriage, saying that it's not just homosexuals, it's anyone who has a difference of opinion, they have arbitrary rules intolerant to certain groups especially. You have all the scientific mumbo-jumbo such as stem cell research getting held back. And of course the complete irrationality when trying to argue a point, whereas they use irrational arguments being claimed as true without any accountability
tl;dr - Christians have a rich history of crookedness through the ages all the way to the present, at least they aren't as bad currently
Maybe the only ignorant one here is you...
#161 to #148 - BoSvNCR (07/13/2013) [-]
Interesting how none of that has anything to do with Christians hindering education in America.   
Or any other country
Interesting how none of that has anything to do with Christians hindering education in America.
Or any other country
User avatar #165 to #161 - theantidote (07/13/2013) [-]
I quote "Christians have done worse things than screw up education so why not.." then the reply "uhm no they haven't...." So no it has no view on the education aspect, but he didn't ask that
User avatar #155 to #148 - MrDeadiron (07/13/2013) [-]
oh and if you think the only war crimes during the crusades were committed by christians then you clearly have a weak historical knowledge
User avatar #163 to #155 - theantidote (07/13/2013) [-]
The crusades were started by the Christians, well Roman Catholics I believe. So although I am sure there are war crimes involved in this, the whole "holy war" **** started with them anyway
And to add to your other post, violence is not just a human thing either, violence is observed in many species other than our own
#178 to #163 - doubledisme (07/13/2013) [-]
dude I hate to be "That Guy" but almost every single religion started a "Holy War" at one point or another.
and education is simply learning things right?
and during the crusades is when Europe learned how to do **** good (making maps ,navigation transport, etc)
so really they didn't hinder it ...they sorta boosted it...
User avatar #181 to #178 - theantidote (07/13/2013) [-]
As I have just posted below, when I refer to the Crusade, I am talking about the roman catholic movement. I am not trying to spark a debate on which religion had it right and which is better
During WW2, Nazi doctors cut open alive pregnant Jewish women to learn about how a baby lives in the womb etc, doesn't make it a good thing
#190 to #181 - doubledisme (07/13/2013) [-]
dam forgot to put down "...for the wrong reasons" at the end of that ( I was also talking about the roman catholic crusade)
and now im **** outta luck
im speaking from a neutral view point here man
and as you posted below "The Christians were much in the same positions as the Germans during WW2, I'm sure they didn't want to massacre millions of people, however with someone like Hitler that at the helm of a party/movement/religion they can be talked into anything."
they had a major foul up and tried (in my opinion still treing) to fix it
its a stereotype that every catholic is against modern science.
User avatar #200 to #190 - theantidote (07/13/2013) [-]
The religion themselves are against some aspects of modern science, however I don't really know what the actual views of the followers of the religion are in all honesty. I just know that the religions on a whole have a more negative effect than a positive one on advances in science
But yeah you are completely right about other holy wars being sparked for the wrong reasons, they all seem to think the same way of getting rid of the people that don't think the same as them
#207 to #200 - doubledisme (07/13/2013) [-]
so my mom is religious and I was talking to the priest of her church
on biology he said "its just a way to help understand god and our universe"
so I assume this is the major view point
User avatar #216 to #207 - theantidote (07/13/2013) [-]
Well people of every religion generally say that we shouldn't be doing what only God should have the power to do, such as give life etc.
Well I think it is pretty much a necessity regardless of your religion to have the right to every shred of knowledge possible from your education, and then you can make your own mind up
#224 to #216 - doubledisme (07/13/2013) [-]
....I sorta agree with them....
look at the atomic bomb
User avatar #228 to #224 - theantidote (07/13/2013) [-]
I think the atom bomb is merely a weapon of status really, if they were to really start a nuclear war then we would all pretty much be in the same boat.
There are aspects of it I agree with, but in the cases of abortion, stem cell research and euthanasia (in severe cases) I am pretty much against. I believe we all have a choice in this world to forge our own path and there shouldn't be someone else to hold us back, and in the case of God, if he does exist, he made us with free will for a reason
#235 to #228 - doubledisme (07/13/2013) [-]
so im liking this debate (because there is no stupid juvenile name calling )
so im going to do this last bit should you wish to continue pm me
but in my opinion the bomb has something alittle more symbolic than it being any weapon (look at all that **** with Iran and NK not to mention the cold war)
with abortion im mixed becuse on one hand they are killing a baby that might change the world and on the other if some person is really willing to kill their own child then parhaps they shouldn't have it .
Stem Cell research im all for it turns a bad(ish) thing into a good thing
and yea we do have free will but abuseing it wont make the world better so that is why I sometimes tune in to the religious mumbo-jumbo from time to time
as I said this will be my last comment here pm me or have a good day buddy (no sarcasm)
#444 to #235 - luky (07/14/2013) [-]
Have you seen the movie Religulous?
User avatar #317 to #181 - oceanfrank (07/13/2013) [-]
Antidote, just ******* stop. Christianity is not the worst thing to happen to this world, it is just 1 religion out of many and all religions have done bad things, religion was made by HUMANS and is controlled by HUMANS and HUMANS REALLY dont like to be wrong and so they fight kind of like how you're defending your points of view on something you see "right" only they take it way more seriously. Just please, stop arguing because you're ******* wrong.
User avatar #318 to #317 - theantidote (07/13/2013) [-]
You need to keep up, this was a couple of hours ago, I have well in truly stopped by now..
I defend my point simply because it is a debate where people are able to voice their own opinion and see the results from everyone else
People like you are counter productive in debates like these, where you are unwilling to even look at a persons views before shutting them down, too bad you were late huh
User avatar #320 to #318 - oceanfrank (07/13/2013) [-]
Yeah too bad huh? Just thought you should know, religion isn't something to hate, it's the people who run it.
User avatar #321 to #320 - theantidote (07/13/2013) [-]
I personally dislike religion, not for the people just how I feel and I appreciate that a minority doing bad will always outshine a majority doing good
#177 to #163 - BoSvNCR (07/13/2013) [-]
I'm pretty sure he wasn't saying that violence is human exclusive but the capacity of violence you accuse Christians of is seen throughout history by just about every group imaginable
User avatar #175 to #163 - MrDeadiron (07/13/2013) [-]
no it didnt holy wars had been going on since the concept of religion came to be
also muslim leaders before the crusades had been slaughtering the followers of indigenous religions in the middle east for centuries in the name of allah
and lets be honest the muslims started their crusades or jihads into europe and africa as well as other parts of the middle east way before the europeans
User avatar #179 to #175 - theantidote (07/13/2013) [-]
The "First Crusade" was the military expedition led by Pope Urban II (not literally). When someone refers to the crusades, this is what they are usually referring
I am not arguing for any religion in particular, don't think I am straight up knocking the Christians because I am against them, just that is what is the context of the original post
User avatar #185 to #179 - MrDeadiron (07/13/2013) [-]
when i said crusade I meant holy wars in the general not just "The Crusades" and those crusades were launched to turn back muslim aggression that had been going on for centuries, also and more importantly to capture vital trade routes between europe and the far east
and im not for any religion either im just a big fan of history and when someone says that one civilization was the most ruthless of all its a clear indicator that theyve been schooled in a very biased manner
oh and about what you said before about homosexuals being disputed against by christians its mostly the back water followers and branches of Christianity that do those things, in the your openly gay in most muslim countries youll be beaten and possibly murder
User avatar #193 to #185 - theantidote (07/13/2013) [-]
Again I am not comparing religions, if homosexuality was that accepted then why is it taking so much effort to get such a simple thing such as marriage legalised? I know there are extremists out there as with any religion but as a whole Christianity is not accepting of homosexuality
Maybe an over-exaggeration on the most part, however it is undeniable they were responsible for an unspeakable amount of deaths and violence throughout history
User avatar #199 to #193 - MrDeadiron (07/13/2013) [-]
the rason gay marriage is so hard to get through is because most politicians are sneaky, underhanded, douches that would do anything for more votes
so if there were only one more bigot than homosexual the politicians would go for the bigots
also you have to think of it this way most people arent homosexual and most dont care because it doesn't affect them
User avatar #210 to #199 - theantidote (07/13/2013) [-]
Urgh, don't even go there with politicians! haha
We (UK) have been pushing to get gay marriage legalised, the PM is for it but you have the normal bunch such as the BNP against. Hopefully this should push it through
The problem being that marriage is traditionally a religious ceremony, so if the gay marriage was already accepted by the church this wouldn't be a problem
I believe the last population I read for it was about 3-4million out of the UK's population are LGBT. So it is a very valid point
User avatar #217 to #210 - MrDeadiron (07/13/2013) [-]
im glad we could find something we both hate
the thing is you dont need a religious marriage you can just get a civil marriage which is just as fine
User avatar #220 to #217 - theantidote (07/13/2013) [-]
Yeah, that's always safe common ground
You're right in a way, I just think the homosexual community as a whole doesn't want to be distinguished from at all, in my opinion, if they were to have all the same rights, next of kin and all the healthcare issues in America (I think there is something against couples in a civil partnership from using each others health insurance?) then there would be no benefit to be married than be in a civil partnership
#172 to #163 - BoSvNCR (07/13/2013) [-]
Yes because all Christians supported the Holy Wars and it wasn't just the Pope and other various Lords taking advantage of and spreading fear throughout a weak and flawed feudal society not much after the fall of Rome
User avatar #176 to #172 - theantidote (07/13/2013) [-]
The Christians were much in the same positions as the Germans during WW2, I'm sure they didn't want to massacre millions of people, however with someone like Hitler that at the helm of a party/movement/religion they can be talked into anything.
I am not saying the pope was like hitler, don't really know much about him to be fair, however Hitler had everyone under him in the palm of his hand and they did whatever was asked of them without question, this is where the off topic analogy comes from
#182 to #176 - BoSvNCR (07/13/2013) [-]
It's not the same at all as WWII
The Pope called a crusade and the Lords would bring any of their fighting capable serfs(basically slaves) and knights along with them.

But yes Christians are evil because they love killing non believers and are the absolute most violent group in history
User avatar #186 to #182 - theantidote (07/13/2013) [-]
I knew using a WW2 reference would be a bad idea for an analogy, I was mainly just referring to the leadership and the way in which Hitler could manipulate his troops etc
Well a knight pretty much had to do what was told of him during those times or he would be cast out, and a peasant..who would miss a peasant if he were to be executed to make an example of
In all honesty I can't abide any religions when it comes to these aspects, killing for the name of a religion is down right stupid
#375 to #148 - Anemophobia (07/13/2013) [-]
I think you are looking for the atheist page where they will agree with whatever you are saying as long as you bash religion ie: Christians
#297 to #148 - anon (07/13/2013) [-]
Most violent, or most successful? Ask yourself that. Christianity was a large over-arching community that expanded across dozens of countries. It can not be exclusively blamed for the wars that were fought in it's name. But so many countries did fight in it's name that it is stained by the reputation as a bloody religion. It was a religion founded in possibly the bloodiest and most violent area of the world. It cannot simply be peaceful when every early believer had fought in at least one or two wars themselves. If you view it objectively then you realize that it's beliefs and customs were shaped by a lot of popular opinion and established traditions beforehand. The ideas of it's founding(vows of poverty, service, peace, and acceptance) were pretty great, but then you see further works from a few hundred years later at least that start condemning homosexuality and so on. The community is warped and the message corrupted. No one gets what it's about. It's a terrible mess.
User avatar #153 to #148 - MrDeadiron (07/13/2013) [-]
Ok that first statement just shows you havent study the growth of civilization at all I mean just look at the japanese during WW2

violence isnt a cultural or religious thing its a human thing
User avatar #310 to #97 - oceanfrank (07/13/2013) [-]
Damn ***** , did you even pass middle school? Even my dumb American redneck education even taught me that Christianity brought about the first Universities.
User avatar #218 to #97 - SgtBaha (07/13/2013) [-]
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User avatar #406 to #97 - thebritishguy (07/13/2013) [-]
There are religious schools which only teach religion and have there own curriculum, I would agree that those schools can not be good, but most faith schools have to follow the curriculum so you're taught like in any other school except R.E is compulsory and you have to go to long assemblies and chant ********
User avatar #307 to #97 - fredthemilkman (07/13/2013) [-]
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#109 to #97 - anon (07/13/2013) [-]
Religious schools are better than public schools. I went to a public school from Kindergarten until 8th grade, then a religious school from 9th grade until 12th grade. I can honestly say the religious school was much nicer. It was pretty much exactly the same as the public school except it had religious aspects in it. The curriculum was better. I learned more. It had a way better learning environment. It was just way nicer in every way. There's a reason why you pay a **** ton of money to get into one.
User avatar #105 to #97 - theantidote (07/13/2013) [-]
Religious schools such as this one still has the same exam boards as every other school in the country (in the UK at least) so they would all be at level footing. The difference with the religious aspect is extended Religious education lessons and in some cases there is a compulsory prayer period through the day
User avatar #116 to #105 - krobeles (07/13/2013) [-]
Does it still have all the biology, physics and such, that a normal school would? Dosen't the Christians frown on most, if not all of that?
User avatar #123 to #116 - theantidote (07/13/2013) [-]
Yeah it does, I think they teach about evolution but it is not a compulsory module, they can choose to sit another aspect of the sciences and still pass, however they will still learn everything they need to know about evolution but they wouldn't be tested on it.
It's the same the other way around, I went to a non religious school, there we learnt all about the theories of the age of the earth and the non-evolution stuff, however we were never tested on it
User avatar #102 to #97 - theamazinganalidk (07/13/2013) [-]
Religion and education are very different. My nephew and nieces go to a christian private school, and it's the only good school in my city. It just depends on how the school is run.
#337 to #84 - anon (07/13/2013) [-]
holy **** , you are from Bishops Stortford? I've never seen anyone else from here on the internet so far.
#359 to #84 - anon (07/13/2013) [-]
I've played BDJ 4DM1Nton there. Freezing cold sports hall, rock hard flooring. Seemed like an ok school though
#367 to #84 - anon (07/13/2013) [-]
Bishops Stortford FTW! I went to Hockerill but all the schools in the area are pretty decent
#227 to #84 - xsap (07/13/2013) [-]
next time you go to school, i dare you to ask his question
User avatar #404 to #227 - thebritishguy (07/13/2013) [-]
I remember once they put me on segregation and after 5 hours I started getting a bit crazy so I wrote a load of gibberish but I also wrote "I think religion is like a penis, you can have one and that's fine, but don't show it in public and don't shove it down childrens throats."
I had to read it out in front of all the teachers later on, it was the worst thing ever.
#437 to #404 - voidekatwo (07/14/2013) [-]
I would have been honoured to read that out in front of 30+ religious kids and a teacher.
User avatar #439 to #437 - thebritishguy (07/14/2013) [-]
You are the hero that bishop deserves
I joined the debating society a few years later and we spend a lot of time debating religion there, it's a lot of fun
#440 to #439 - voidekatwo (07/14/2013) [-]
I wish we had one of those I love debating religion, this thread is going to get me a **** load of red thumbs xD
User avatar #441 to #440 - thebritishguy (07/14/2013) [-]
I doubt anyone is going to see it, it's old content now.
You can go on facebook but I wouldn't advise going on the religion board because there are trolls everywhere and you can walk away with -30 thumbs on a comment unless it's about poncake or shrek or something dumb
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