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#1 - traelos (07/08/2013) [-]
The extra frame per second doesn't matter.

But the ability to have mods in the first place is worth more than the game itself.
User avatar #27 to #1 - IshimelofSomewhere (07/09/2013) [-]
I barely ever plan skyrim anymore but i still browse the steam workshop and skyrim nexus occasionally and download things, i have over 200 mods for skyrim and i rarely ever start it up.
#66 to #1 - Sampsy (07/09/2013) [-]
The human eye can distinguish above 60fps. For example I can easily see the fluctuations in BF3 where I average about 105 fps on my 120hz screen.

You will not see the same difference however if you are watching over 60fps on a 60hz screen. Or under 60fps on a 120hz screen. What many TVs do is either repeat frames or artificially add them which can cause motion blur. This is not the same as having a truly higher frame rate, which is only really available gaming on the PC / mac (technically).
User avatar #3 to #1 - ScottP (07/08/2013) [-]
I found that a lot of the times I installed mods just for the heck of it. I didn't actually play the mods in any way. I just installed them.

That's pretty useless...
User avatar #4 to #3 - traelos (07/08/2013) [-]
I can kinda relate to that, except I don't think it's useless.

I have just as much fun finding mods as playing them.
User avatar #36 to #1 - VaultTechy ONLINE (07/09/2013) [-]
Iiiiit depends on what game we're talking about, with stuff like Skyrim and Fallout and Sims, yeah the mods are fantastic, but games like Devil May Cry and Resident Evil, mods don't REALLY factor...
#53 to #36 - anon (07/09/2013) [-]
its because fallout and sims are more open play without a storyline while dmc and resident evil follow more of a set path.
#6 - fiercebannana (07/08/2013) [-]
i dont know about you guys, but there is a world of difference between 30 fps, 60 fps, and 240 fps on a blue ray hd set up
#55 to #6 - anon (07/09/2013) [-]
No there isn't. I work in the cinema industry and have a multi channel Snell THX Reference system and 4K/(K projector costing millions. Stop believing ******** hype that 240hz tvs are better than 120hz or 60hz..Movies are shot at 24 fps (except Hobbit etc 48 fps)
#56 to #55 - fiercebannana (07/09/2013) [-]
i dont care at all where you work, i can see a clear distinction in smoothness from playing mw2 on an xbox (30 fps) bo2 on xbox (60 fps) league of legends (120 fps) and my hd tv with a blueray player (240 fps)

tl:dr dont tell me what i cant see, if you spend hours staring at screens, you notice tiny differences
#7 to #6 - anon (07/08/2013) [-]
no theres not lol you'll notice a difference between 24(i presume u meant that)and 30 yes but not 30/24 and 60 the human eye cant distinguish that! the whole point of a higher frame rate is so the computer can do the calculations easier with out bottlenecking
#8 to #7 - anon (07/08/2013) [-]
I can tell the difference between 60Hz and 120Hz.. In FPS games anyway..
Anything that has a lot of motion blur it is easy to tell..
User avatar #9 to #8 - sketchE ONLINE (07/09/2013) [-]
hz and frames per second are not the same thing
User avatar #18 to #9 - retardedboss ONLINE (07/09/2013) [-]
Seeing as Hertz is a unit of measurement for frequency, you could use it when talking about frames per second. Frames per second is the same as frequency of frames in a one second period. It's just uncommon because there is already a more exact term.
User avatar #12 to #8 - madshatter (07/09/2013) [-]
thats a slow ass clock speed if you ask me.
#52 to #7 - anon (07/09/2013) [-]
retard
#38 - snakefire (07/09/2013) [-]
I built my computer too.


I don't have any friends but I built a computer. That was a happy day.
User avatar #62 to #38 - rafeky (07/09/2013) [-]
You don't consider your PC your friend?
User avatar #63 to #38 - legendofzeldafreak (07/09/2013) [-]
I'm still waiting on more chapters of that manga.
#47 to #38 - mishterlusk (07/09/2013) [-]
I'll be your friend
User avatar #42 - motherfuckingkenji (07/09/2013) [-]
My experience playing Skyrim involves 70+ graphical mods and running around as a skeleton wearing a strap-on and a Portal 2 Space Core helmet while dual-wielding a lightsaber and a Minecraft diamond sword fighting Zoidberg mudcrabs with top hats and monocles and slowing down time and using trailer-accurate Fus Ro Dahs on ridiculously oversized Fluttershy dragons and shooting them with bows that go "pew".
#2 - anon (07/08/2013) [-]
"I didn't even play the game, I just took screenshots"
This.
This so ******* much.
Everytime I'm on nexus I see all those wierd-ass screenshots that make me want to punch the community in the face.
#54 - beefkakes (07/09/2013) [-]
Real PC gamers
#51 - asdwqasd (07/09/2013) [-]
OP, you ignorant slut, please tell us how you cant see past 60fps...
#58 to #51 - madoc (07/09/2013) [-]
Thumbing you up since we can see past 60 fps no problem. Someone thumbed you down earlier.

Here's a source explaining it for anyone who wants to read. www.100fps.com/how_many_frames_can_humans_see.htm
User avatar #64 to #51 - vexeran (07/09/2013) [-]
well i can easily see the difference between 200fps-300fps 300fps-400fps and so on
#30 - spiritlift (07/09/2013) [-]
You know you are butthurt if you categorize every PC gamer like this, instead of differentiating between PC gamers and PC fanboys. I enjoy certain games for console and some for PC, and don't care for claiming the superiority of PC gaming. When you flat out desecrate anyone who games on PC, you make it kind of obvious you are upset you don't have a gaming PC.
User avatar #11 - bandoslootshare ONLINE (07/09/2013) [-]
For some reason I can feel the difference. In my heart it feels more realistic when its in higher FPS. If I'm watching anime at 60fps then a movie of the show anime at 240fps, I fall in love for the cartoon girls harder. Just saying.
#14 to #11 - savirleo ONLINE (07/09/2013) [-]
But, they're simply pictures moving forward in a way that gives the illusion of movement
But, they're simply pictures moving forward in a way that gives the illusion of movement
#24 to #14 - maguitox ONLINE (07/09/2013) [-]
Comment Picture
User avatar #15 to #14 - bandoslootshare ONLINE (07/09/2013) [-]
Bleach - fade to black.. I cry every time :/ i feel for that girl the same way I felt for the purple digital chick in spy kids when I was 10
User avatar #16 to #15 - savirleo ONLINE (07/09/2013) [-]
Never seen it. I've seen Diamond Blade Rebellion and one other. Not Fade to Black though. And the closest anime that almost made me cry, are Elfen Lied and Gurren Lagann. Elfen Lied was because I've read the manga, and that made me go cry in the shower. Gurren Lagann was because I like Nia
#25 to #16 - RequieminMortis (07/09/2013) [-]
I can't rewatch Gurren Lagann. I love the show, but the ending induced such utter rage in me that I almost threw my computer monitor through the wall.
User avatar #68 to #25 - savirleo ONLINE (07/09/2013) [-]
Is it because of the wedding scene?
User avatar #71 to #68 - RequieminMortis (07/09/2013) [-]
Yes, yes it is.
User avatar #48 to #14 - burtgasm (07/09/2013) [-]
oh come on your gonna post jiggly boobs and not even give sauce?
User avatar #67 to #48 - savirleo ONLINE (07/09/2013) [-]
Maoyuu Maou Yuusha
It's about economics
User avatar #35 - foelkera ONLINE (07/09/2013) [-]
PROTIP: Vastly enhance your processing power by buying a hydroelectric dam and use it to cool your overclocked PC
User avatar #10 - aahrg (07/09/2013) [-]
i thought it was around 100 that the average human eye can no longer see the difference..
User avatar #5 - threadz (07/08/2013) [-]
so why are some TV coming with 240fps. I can't see a difference past 48 anyway
User avatar #50 to #5 - drolejonque (07/09/2013) [-]
How's it feel to be less evolved than the rest of the human race?
User avatar #70 to #50 - threadz (07/09/2013) [-]
Pretty good, considering I can play games on a less powerful computer and still get the full experience. What are the real advantages of being able to see more that 60 fps? noticing that all light bulbs flickering?
User avatar #19 - oxYKellark (07/09/2013) [-]
I prefer 120 FPS
User avatar #21 to #19 - jackknapp (07/09/2013) [-]
You don't see a difference though.
#26 to #21 - fitemeirl (07/09/2013) [-]
Except that you do. eyes don't work in fps, they take in a constant stream of light, so if you 120 frames are shown each second you will see 120 frames each second.

I suggest you try a 120hz monitor, the difference has to be experienced first hand, it really is noticeable.
User avatar #29 to #26 - SteyrAUG (07/09/2013) [-]
Considering that television is broadcast at ~30 fps, and we can't see the individual frames in that, anything above 30 is considered playable. It is just suggested to get higher fps so that way your minimum won't drop below 30.
User avatar #31 to #29 - fitemeirl (07/09/2013) [-]
Depending on where in the world you are TV and movies are either 24,25, or 30 fps. this does indeed create the illusion of a moving image.

However there's a difference between the TV's refresh rate (hz) and the image shown. in gaming this becomes clear because most monitors are 60hz, or 60 frames pr. second. if you run a game at 30fps on a 60hz monitor each frame is displayed twice. if you ran at 60fps on a 60hz monitor each frame is displayed once, you get more frames in a shorter time span and the image will look more fluent.

now you will be forgiven for thinking that anything over 60fps on a 60hz monitor won't be noticed, but there are other factors in play like input lag and frame buffering, but I won't get into that.

Let me quickly tackle 120hz monitors too. I have one, and I have a 60 hz one next to it. I can feel the difference when dragging windows around between the two monitors, it's subtle but noticeable. in gaming it becomes even more apparent, for example: I can no longer play CSS on a 60hz monitor, I've gotten too used to 120hz and I simply cannot play properly without that refresh rate.

TLR there is a difference between 30fps and 60fps, and there is a difference between 60fps and 120fps.
User avatar #34 to #31 - SteyrAUG (07/09/2013) [-]
So basically what you're saying is that under 60 fps will be seeable because the monitor refreshes at 60Hz, even though the sensor (our eyes) only measure 24 hz... Yes, it makes perfect sense. Especially when you consider that on a tv running at 30 hz each frame is displayed for the exact same amount of time as a monitor running 30 fps. But because it's an lcd monitor instead of an lcd tv, there will be a huge noticeable difference, right?
User avatar #37 to #34 - fitemeirl (07/09/2013) [-]
where in the world did you pick up that eyes measure fps? and why 24 for that matter? everything above around 15fps will appear fluent to our eyes, but since we see a constant stream of light and not frames we do notice higher framerates.

also have you ever tried animating anything? you might then have learned that making fluent motions with a small amount of frames is hard as it will take many frames to show precise movement, and thus it will appear slower. if you could fit more frames per second you could fit more detailed and fine movement in without making it slower than the rest.
User avatar #72 to #37 - SteyrAUG (07/09/2013) [-]
24 fps is the standard that movies were played at on reel to reel film. That's where I got that number from. And the measuring of fps was a metaphor, meaning that anything more precise than the maximum precision of your "sensor" is a non-detectable difference.

Why yes I have tried animating things. In fact, I animated a clock for a project in CATIA last semester. At 15 FPS. The faster movements were jerky, but it was hardly noticeable considering how fast everything was spinning. So yeah I've got experience with it. Boy oh boy would I have liked to run it to 25 fps, but considering that the 30 second video took 45 minutes to render, 15 was fine.

I understand what you are saying, and I am trying to get through your think skull that just because the monitor is capable of 60 fps doesn't mean that 60 fps is required to have smooth motion. There is no noticeable difference between 30 and 60 fps, because our eyes can not see that many images in a second. Also considering that consoles play at 30 fps, you would think that someone along the line would have complained about them having stutters compared to PC games.
User avatar #73 to #72 - fitemeirl (07/09/2013) [-]
fair enough, it's wrong but whatever, it's beside the point.

That's my point, it was jerky, you could tell, this is what I am talking about.

That's ******* wrong, if you can't tell the difference between 30fps and 60fps you need to get your eyes checked. I am not talking about when it becomes smooth motion, I've already stated that everything about ~15 fps will appear to be smooth. I am talking about the fact that we can see the difference between 30 fps and 60fps. the whole uproar about The Hobbit being shot and shown in 48fps proves this. if there wasn't any difference between 30fps and 48fps no one would have said anything.
User avatar #74 to #73 - SteyrAUG (07/10/2013) [-]
In side by side gifs like this one, I can only tell the difference when the gif is loading. I'm sure it's just eating away at your OCD to not have a 60 fps frame rate, but to us mere mortals it doesn't make hardly any difference. But then again, considering that until very recently I had a core 2 duo processor and 9800 gt, i'm probably just used to it by now. And the reason everyone freaked out about the hobbit being shot at 48 fps instead of 30 fps is because the number is higher. It's like a processor running at 3.4 ghz vs a processor running at 3.5 ghz.



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User avatar #75 to #74 - fitemeirl (07/10/2013) [-]
The gif on the left is 60fps, I can see the difference. Try this: hold your hand over the left gif and watch the one on the right loop 5 times, then hold over the gif on the right and watch the one on the left. I at least can see a difference.

but this argument is getting old, I can agree that 30fps is smooth enough, and if you're used to that I can understand that you don't care much. but I'm used to 120fps, I can see a difference.
User avatar #76 to #75 - SteyrAUG (07/10/2013) [-]
Okay then. Your way works, I can see a bit of difference, but not enough to bother me.
User avatar #32 to #31 - fitemeirl (07/09/2013) [-]
PS. it's 7am for me, please excuse any spelling and grammar errors as well as any inconsistencies in my writing.

pps the emoticons ****** up my tldr
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#69 - curses (07/09/2013) [-]
If someone can't see the different between 30 and 60 they need to get an eye check. It's a day and night difference.

From 60 to 120 there are plenty who can see a difference but it's not that much.

I stick to 60 due to that I have Vsync turned on all the time. I don't really wanna make my graphic card work more than it should. Also my Monitor is only 60Hz.
#65 - pentol ONLINE (07/09/2013) [-]
shame on you for not posting the entire comic, OP.
#60 - jbainbridgejolly (07/09/2013) [-]
even if i had a good enough pc, i wouldnt even be able to do these things
User avatar #45 - harrywarden (07/09/2013) [-]
I bet this was made by a butthurt console fanboy.
#41 - Thebiggeorgy (07/09/2013) [-]
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Who's been watching me.
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