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> hey anon, wanna give your opinion?
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#17 - himyouknowwho
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look what i got!
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#55 to #17 - bawler
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#108 to #17 - oliphan
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Reversed template for anyone who wants it.
#110 to #108 - oliphan
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And one with a down arrow.
User avatar #111 to #110 - himyouknowwho
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you are a hero!
#112 to #111 - oliphan
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Why thank you my friend.
Why thank you my friend.
#113 to #112 - himyouknowwho
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no. thank YOU, my friend
no. thank YOU, my friend
#18 to #17 - himyouknowwho
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User avatar #105 to #18 - theawesomeguy
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i'll have to save that
#106 to #105 - himyouknowwho
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ok
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User avatar #22 to #18 - broale
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i like this one better
#2 - wobblewub
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I don't know
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User avatar #76 to #27 - zorororonoa
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what?
User avatar #30 - scootpilgrim
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And another question. What of incestuous marriage? Surely if gay marriage is legal, it would be hypocritical(?) to not allow a brother and a sister to marry each-other. Why is no-one fighting for this?
#41 to #30 - budva
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Because genetic deficiencies come through when relatives breed you ******* idiot. gays cannot do this even though there wouldn't be the deficiencies in the first place. Your argument is moronic.
User avatar #33 to #30 - Blargosnarf
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The difference being that incestuous relationships have actual medical deficits such as genetic deformities and a huge increase in the chance of mental retardation. With gay relationships there is literally no risk whatsoever of anything of the sort- neither is there an increased chance of successful birth, or birth in general.
User avatar #114 to #33 - scootpilgrim
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But they don't have to have children, and you can have kids without being married, so that's a stupid argument.
User avatar #21 - scootpilgrim
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Honest question, why should marriage be a right?
#42 to #21 - budva
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Why shouldn't it?
User avatar #24 to #21 - theantidote
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Well it's just an equality reason. Why should straight people have the right and gay people not? It was the same with men and women, and blacks and whites in the past whereas their "rights" differed for some reason or another, but we seen how that turned out
User avatar #25 to #24 - scootpilgrim
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that... doesn't really answer my question. Why should it be a "right" for straight people in the first place? It's just a type of status.
#26 to #25 - ekusas
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Because marriage is not only a status, it matters alot in legal matters aswell. Also, being able to attain a status, has and will always be, a symbol : Disciminating attainabillity of said status when attained status does not directly effect the lives of others has to be considered not only dumb, but also illigal - As you said, its not so much the right to be marriaged, its the right to have rights.

But, the question remains why gay people want to be wed into a religion that doesnt approve of their personal beliefs - But i dont think thats wise to discuss ever, as it is every mans right, to be having whatever status said person wants, aslong as it doesnt effect the lives of others. So who im i to say you cant be a gay cristian mormon jew ?
#35 to #25 - teenytinyspider
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If there were no rights for married people and two people want to live together and one kills over, then there is no "Join Heirs with Rights of Survivorship" which is generally what married people fall under who own a house at the time they were married, and that means that every aunt, uncle, and 6th-cousin can come along and try to fight the spouse and kids for the house
User avatar #115 to #35 - scootpilgrim
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But you can leave everything to your partner without being married if you put it in your will.
#116 to #115 - teenytinyspider
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A will can be contested. Trust me, I've seen it happen.
User avatar #1 - tomowrath
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can any biblist confirm the "non virgins get executed thing"
#3 to #1 - anon id: 6d29def9
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'tis true. Deuteronomy is full of **** like that.
#28 to #3 - Rollerofdouble
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#15 to #3 - anon id: 69eb6b29
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the old testament is more fun than you think.
"Oh hey, lets kill everyone but my people" - God
User avatar #38 to #1 - IamSofaKingdom
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Much of the old testament gives guidlines to the laws of that social construct. A lot of those situations are out of date in our current period. In their culture virginity meant everything in a wife (the only other major concern was probably dowry) so if she wasn't a virgin she not only fooled her husband but broke their laws as a society by having premarital sex. It is kind of like laws we have now that only pertain to our culture.
User avatar #100 to #1 - sprok **User deleted account**
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Things the Bible also forbids :
Tattoos
Ham
Getting remarried after divorce
Women speaking in church
Eating shrimp, lobster and other seafood
User avatar #5 to #1 - imakejewburgers
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There's a reason why the Old Testament has been thrown out in regards to rules and guidelines.
User avatar #12 to #5 - calawesome
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you have a point.
User avatar #117 to #5 - tomowrath
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Hey man, long time no see
User avatar #130 to #117 - imakejewburgers
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Hey. How you been?
User avatar #131 to #130 - tomowrath
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not too bad, got a job, yourself?
User avatar #132 to #131 - imakejewburgers
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Alright, turned down some work so I could be lazy. What're you doing for work?
User avatar #6 to #1 - pockyrin
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The old testament is absolutely chock a block with god directly telling people to murder their kids if they talk back, invade enemy nations and rape their women etc. The main problem I have with the bible is that the old testament, ie before christ, is about the tales of the jewish god and parables about do bad things and you'll get smote the **** down, it's a vengeful hateful god.

Then new testament you get Christ who was born and raised a Jew, traveled the world on his stepdads boat all sisterhood of the traveling pants style, and brought back a lot of ideas from various religions, and preached peace and love, meek inheriting the earth, love everyone stuff. God is a nice lovely god, he even sent his son to die to erase original sin because he loves us so much.

So yeah my main problem with religions based around the bible is that from the ground up source material, it's already made to be conflicting because it's stories about two completely different gods and religions. That's why I think people are so confused whether they are supposed to smite gays or love them as their neighbor.
User avatar #59 - smokingman
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I don't support gay marriage.
In fact, I don't support marriage.
Why the **** does it still exist?
And why the hell would gay people want to marry?
Social recognition?
#63 to #59 - theonemica
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I agree with you, I hate the fact that marriage is a government regulated thing. It's stupid.

Here's a quick list of rights/benefits that being married gives you (which, since gay marriage is illegal, means gay couples don't benefit from).

www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/marriage-rights-benefits-30190.html
User avatar #65 to #63 - smokingman
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Well thank you, that comes in handy.
User avatar #70 to #59 - Ruspanic
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If you love someone enough to spend your life with them, it makes sense to have things like joint property ownership, shared income, hospital visitation rights, and being able to make decisions for the other in case of death or incapacitation. Besides that, the legal contract of marriage helps further stabilize the union, helping to ensure that any children you might have grow up in a stable household.
User avatar #73 to #70 - smokingman
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That's why marriage should be a simple contract between private parts, and shouldn't be regulated by the government.

You get a nice piece of paper, write your names on it (masculine or feminine, it shouldn't matter), and sign it.
It gets validated as a regular legal contract, and TADAAAAA!
Problem solved.
User avatar #77 to #73 - Ruspanic
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Isn't that pretty much the same thing? Marriage (in this context) is a legal contract. It's just a standardized legal contract that people don't have to write themselves.

The only difference I can think of is that status-quo legal marriage comes with tax benefits, which can be justified insofar as the state has an interest in stable households and birth rates.
User avatar #82 to #77 - smokingman
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I would propose the abolition of marriage-related tax benefits, and the introduction of child birth/adoption related ones, even for single men/women.
Most married gay couples are very interested in having children, one way or another, and I don't see why a child grown by a gay couple would be any less valuable than any other one, for the state.
User avatar #85 to #82 - Ruspanic
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While tax benefits could help struggling single parents, they could also serve as an incentive for single people to have children. It's not a good idea to encourage single parenthood.

As for gay couples - I agree with you. That's why the legal definition of marriage should be changed to include same-sex couples, and why same-sex couples should be eligible to adopt.
User avatar #92 to #70 - timmywankenobi
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you are describing a pre 1970's Marriage contract not a modern one.
User avatar #94 to #92 - Ruspanic
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If I'm wrong, please correct me.
User avatar #95 to #94 - timmywankenobi
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most of it is the same but there are a few added things that only benefit the female .
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#14 to #7 - walnoot
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so is it

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User avatar #60 - friednazi
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If we're supposed to have separation between church and state, why is gay marriage even a debate?
User avatar #75 to #60 - lordogames
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They have to fix the problem of who owns the house. When married, and you buy a house, the house goes to the man. In the case of men, which owns the house? And women, same problem. I think it's still ridiculous.
User avatar #104 to #75 - theawesomeguy
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maybe they could decide who owns the house
or do rock paper scissors or something
User avatar #133 to #104 - lordogames
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That's what i said. But that's a foreign concept to the government. Deciding. Except for when it comes to being gay...
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#57 to #37 - whatugawkinat
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You dropped your wallet....I picked it up for you, but couldn't help noticing this picture of you that fell out.
#98 to #37 - hankiepankie
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You should know, being an atheist, that marriage is a social construct, not something prescribed by God, and it manifests itself differently in every culture. And, being an atheist, you should also respect science, which has proven that homosexuality is by no means unnatural. In a free society such as the one we are supposed to belong to, don't you agree that we should not limit marital tradition to one set up by perverted Judeo-Christian values?
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#120 to #118 - hankiepankie
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Wow, you really just compared homosexuality to rape murder and incest. How are they even comparable. Are you trying to use a slippery slope argument? You must be able to see the fallacy in that.
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#124 to #122 - hankiepankie
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My bad, I mistook the meaning of your argument: it's even more moronic than I had first thought. Give me one good reason--just one--why heterosexual couples should have the right to marry who they please, yet same sex couples shouldn't.
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#126 to #125 - hankiepankie
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So my suspicion is confirmed: you are just a ignorant mouthbreather. If you haven't noticed, the norms of a society change throughout time--the fact that so many people are speaking out against your idiotic comment shows that our values have changed from a decade or so ago. Our "norms, values and morals" certainly changed when we repealed Plessy v Ferguson. If you had been in the 60's you would have been saying "Hey, I think the negros should be equal to us, I just don't want 'em to go to my daughter's school!".

As for the 'over-sexualization' and gay pride parades-- that's their first amendment right you ******* moron. Get over it. We did; in 1789 when ratified the goddamn thing.

And your argument in the first paragraph; it makes no ******* sense you jackass.
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#128 to #127 - hankiepankie
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Well I'm just about done commenting because I just realized I'm most likely arguing with an eighth grader who doesn't know what a logical fallacy is. But I will say...

You are the one who argued values and norms of society if you don't recall--which is based on a majority, so you're just arguing with yourself now, champ.

I'd also like to point out that you have now compared homosexuality to the likes cannibalism, incest and rape, and, now, marriage equality to slavery. Lets just take a moment to realize that you are not arguing with logic, but rather, hate.

Lastly, I'd like to say that you are even worse than all of those dimwitted christians in the comp, you ignorant, uneducated halfwit.
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#40 to #37 - budva
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No this just makes you an ass hole. Opposing something and preventing people from having happiness for no genuine reason. Prick.
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User avatar #47 to #45 - flaminggodzilla
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The reason you don't see parades presenting/glorifying normal sexuality on the streets is because they have the right to marriage and don't need to protest.
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User avatar #51 to #48 - flaminggodzilla
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You completely missed the ******* point. They have a right to publicly present what ever the **** they want so long as it's in the guide lines of the law. Straights/Christians have a right to protest against gay marriage, and yes they do have anti-gay rights parades, don't kid your self kiddo.
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#49 to #45 - budva
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gay pride doesn't represent the majority of gays... I just don't understand how you want people to be denied basic equality rights just because they like people of the same sex which is not a problem whatsoever. It really just stems down to people being assholes.
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User avatar #56 to #50 - flaminggodzilla
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So, what if they are different, blacks and whites are different, should blacks be treated any differently?
User avatar #54 to #50 - flaminggodzilla
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You know people saying **** like you do started a ******* civil war. Remember segregation?The Jim Crow laws were state and local laws in the United States enacted between 1876 and 1965. They mandated de jure racial segregation in all public facilities in Southern states of the former Confederacy, with, starting in 1890, a "separate but equal" status for African Americans. The separation in practice led to conditions for African Americans that tended to be inferior to those provided for white Americans, systematizing a number of economic, educational and social disadvantages.
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#102 to #66 - anon id: 614b2524
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not that im an expert on the subject but i thought a man ******* another man was quite common in the past ? for example spartans when they went to wed and **** the missus for the first time dressed the females up as men so as to be more attracted. although this may be bull i picked up on the internets
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#52 to #50 - budva
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Why shouldn't they be equal though. There is no difference other than the sex of the person. It's people like you that drag issues like this out preventing any real social progress past stupid things like equality that should have been done and dusted decades ago. Prick.
User avatar #43 to #37 - flaminggodzilla
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Go kill yourself
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User avatar #71 to #37 - Ruspanic
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what lifestyle?
User avatar #61 to #37 - grandmabetty
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The fact you're an atheist and think gay marriage is wrong makes you even more of a bitch than the Christians who think gay marriage is a sin. They live life by a book, you don't. If you want to sound like a smart Atheist then you need to rethink your opinion.
#72 to #37 - theonemica
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I support marriage equality, but only because it grants a lot of benefits/rights that gays currently don't get.

I don't think marriage should be a government regulated thing at all though.

However, you said earlier that "presenting/glorifying normal sexuality" which implies that homosexuality isn't normal. So what makes it abnormal? The fact that it's not the majority? In America, blacks are the minority, but they're considered a normal color. In the world, whites are the minority, but they're considered a normal color.

Perhaps you think it's not normal because it's not "natural." Well define natural. Natural would be things that regularly occur without any kind of interference in nature, correct? Things that just happen in nature? Well, considering most animal species have homosexual animals, that's natural. And you can't just say it's because they don't care what they **** - there are animals that ONLY have sex with others of the same sex. IIRC, there was a chimp/monkey couple that was forcibly separated and they both ended up extremely depressed until reunited.

And the thing is, we're not pushing a sexualized society any more than straight people are. And I honestly think the reason gay pride parades are so sexualized is to try to get people more used to it or something. I don't like how sexualized they are either. The majority of us gays are normal (hell, most of the pride parade gays are normal), but sometimes everyone just really let's go of that for one day (i.e. at the parades).

TL DR Homosexuality is normal. It's been around for a long time and is naturally occurring in nature. Marriage IS stupid but equal marriage rights is necessary because of the benefits and rights that come along with it.
#96 to #72 - hankiepankie
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^This guy knows what he's talkin about! (except I don't think a chimp and a monkey had a relationship with each other)
#134 to #96 - theonemica
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I wasn't sure what species they were, they were the same, though. xD
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User avatar #91 to #88 - Ruspanic
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Not everything that's normal for society is good for society, either. Social norms are not sacred.
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#11 - thegamerslife
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on the wife must be a virgin one. I guess me and my girl are alright then.

I'm tired of hearing about this, catch up world.
User avatar #32 to #11 - Loppytaffy
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Pretty sure there's a few more states that are yet to allow gay marriage (the ones that allow 12 year olds to wed, probably).
And a lot of other countries; France, country of love and all, had anti-gay rallies to try and stop the same sex marriage law. Thankfully the law was passed anyway and gay marriage is now allowed in France. Within the same week Britain, bless 'em for trying, passed gay marriage, too.

Spain allows it, the Nordics, Canada, Netherlands. Not Italy, or Germany I don't think. These countries that it would be expected to be legal...
User avatar #34 to #32 - thegamerslife
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I'm referring to America, should have specified.

Also, I know Russia unanimously made it law that everyone is bared from talking about gays. lol. and if you are a foreigner and you try to educate people or whatever you will be detained and sent home.