Evolution. .. What did Skyrim have to do with this?


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User avatar #51 to #32 - finni (07/01/2013) [-]
If Talos isn't a god then how come I get the blessing of Talos when I pray at his shrine?

If Talos isn't a god, how come his blood managed to help Martin Septim create the portal to paradise, something only blood from a god can do?

Check mate Thalmor
#54 to #51 - sytheris ONLINE (07/01/2013) [-]
the Thalmor claim he ascended, but isn't a god in the sense that the other 8 Divines are.

besides, the banning of Talos worship was primarily to weaken the unity of Man.
#56 to #54 - finni (07/01/2013) [-]
Nords will never let themselves be weakened
#57 to #56 - sytheris ONLINE (07/01/2013) [-]
-cough- massive infighting = instability.
#59 to #57 - finni (07/01/2013) [-]
Super stability after when the war is won
#60 to #59 - sytheris ONLINE (07/01/2013) [-]
Half of skyrim dead or beaten down. Empire sent an army to Skyrim to handle it, 50-50 chance one of the two greatest leaders is dead, if not both.

Would be perfect time to break the WhiteGold Concordant.

Just saying.
User avatar #61 to #60 - finni (07/01/2013) [-]
Skyrim finally united again under one ruler. Start to mass produce weapons. Aldmeri Dominion already beaten down and loss of troopers after figthing Hammerfell. Skyrim and Hammerfell likely to create an alliance to defeat the high elves together (Skyrim has made alliances between former enemies before). Empire too weak to take down a rebellion is definitely too weak to take down the Aldmeri Dominion.
#63 to #61 - sytheris ONLINE (07/01/2013) [-]
the Empire is capable of taking down the rebellion if the Dragonborn doesn't get involved. Unfair player modifier doesn't count.

and I'm just saying that was likely their plan.
User avatar #64 to #63 - finni (07/02/2013) [-]
The Empire wouldn't be sure to take down the rebellion. Nords are better warriors than Imperial soldiers. Its in their culture and blood. The Empire is weak and it's failing. It betrayed Hammerfell as well, forcing them out of the Empire because they wouldn't have another fight with the Aldmeri Dominion.

It's been 25 years since the White Goat contract was signed at the Empire still does nothing. Face it, Tiber Septim's Empire is dead. It's time for Skyrim to become independent and regain her culture once again.
#66 to #64 - sytheris ONLINE (07/02/2013) [-]
there are Nords in the Empire.

But I do agree that Tiber Septim's empire is dead, but that doesn't make the stormcloks any less racist, bigoted, or foolishly violent.
User avatar #69 to #66 - finni (07/02/2013) [-]
I know. The Nords freely accepted joining the Empire because they respected Tiber Septim as a ruler and a great warrior. However, that Empire is dead. Now there's only corrupt men who is handling the Empire, making crime easier for criminals.

As for the Stormcloaks, they're the true heroes for Skyrim, fighting for their fatherland, even though it means death of their fellow brothers, but they do it so that their children won't have to live in a filthy puppet kingdom controlled by lesser men like elves and good for nothing imperials!

Skyrim has always been careful with contact with other cultures, they have been ever since the war with the Mer (Snow elves), but that doesn't make them racist. If the other races of Skyrim would stop being so proud and assimilate to Skyrim's ways then perhaps there wouldn't be so much racism. Helping to fight or Skyrim's independence is a great start.

Foolishly violent? Maybe, but not anymore than the Orcs or any other warriors of Skyrim. The Stormcloaks fight the Nordic way, that means they fight like Nords best do. You're better of criticising the way of the Nords when it comes to battle than you are with just the Stormcloaks.
#72 to #69 - sytheris ONLINE (07/02/2013) [-]
It is one thing to want others to assimilate. it's another to force them into a separate quarter and permit the constant threatening of them by citizens.

I don't overall disagree with you, my main point stands that the banning of thalmor worship could easily have been a plot to weaken skyrim.

I'm also tired, so you win the argument.
User avatar #73 to #72 - finni (07/02/2013) [-]
Nooo don't give up D: I haven't had a good debate in nearly half a year. It's been so long since I've bothered reading a political content's comments or a religious one. Only one debate I've had in the last months. Don't give up so easily D:
User avatar #105 to #72 - nervaaurelius (07/02/2013) [-]
Debating video game politics is taking things a little too far... oh and skyrim for the nords.
User avatar #212 to #105 - finni (07/02/2013) [-]
It makes just as much sense as debating religion if you ask me
User avatar #62 to #61 - finni (07/01/2013) [-]
Just saying
#120 to #51 - anon (07/02/2013) [-]
He's just a divine.
#23 - thatsnumberwang (07/01/2013) [-]
What did Skyrim have to do with this?
What did Skyrim have to do with this?
#167 to #23 - anon (07/02/2013) [-]
Talos maybe? ( **** if I know)
User avatar #28 to #23 - foelkera ONLINE (07/01/2013) [-]
Once Atheists become the majority, the dragons will come back and we'll all be ****** ?
#118 to #28 - anon (07/02/2013) [-]
Then Jesus returns.
As Dovahkiin
User avatar #199 to #118 - matttmoss (07/02/2013) [-]
Jesus is put on Earth again but doesn't remember his past life. He is being put in prison for being at the wrong place at the wrong time. While serving time, a dragon crashes through the prison walls and kills nearly everyone. Jesus escapes with a friendly Republican gang member.(Democrats have taken over America and banned the right to worship religion, or whatever Fox News accuses Democrats of being. Socialist communists. Anyways,) Jesus travels to a nearby city, Detroit. He helps the mayor by killing a dragon attacking nearby because the Detroit police force is complete **** . After the death of the Dragon is slain, Jesus absorbs the Dragon's soul, realizing that he is the messiah. He then climbs the 7000 stairs up the Stairway to Heaven to train his Voice with the Angels. Later, he will be faced with choices such as helping with the Republican rebellion or helping the Democratic Empire stay afloat. Also he must travel to *SPOILERS* The Throat of the World to work with God, Find the Elder Scroll, and defeat Satan, who has been awakening the Dragons.
User avatar #215 to #28 - metalmind (07/02/2013) [-]
There are no Dragons in Northern Europe so far...
I'm not so sure about Russia though, ****** crazy over there.
User avatar #44 - fyaq (07/01/2013) [-]

i dont remember any of this playing skyrim
#26 - asdyxc (07/01/2013) [-]
Are you feeling a certain... euphoria?
User avatar #30 to #26 - haseotakaeda (07/01/2013) [-]
#198 to #26 - I Am Monkey (07/02/2013) [-]
The bravery on this post could match King Arthur
#117 - Awesomenessniss (07/02/2013) [-]
You're just jealous of Talos! filthy elf.
#125 to #117 - funnyjunkelite (07/02/2013) [-]
Someone such as yourself don't really believe such nonsense, do you? Worship of Talos is strictly forbidden.

I don't like your attitude, die dog
#152 to #125 - thegrimgenius ONLINE (07/02/2013) [-]
User avatar #130 to #125 - RonnyCreed (07/02/2013) [-]
*Steps out from behind tree with bow drawn* I'll have none of that Altmer. This is Nord land.
#53 - Temperance (07/01/2013) [-]
An atheist rant supplemented with pictures from a game based around polytheism...
#121 to #53 - anon (07/02/2013) [-]
well because its a religion and he is atheist so i dont see a problem its not like atheists just dislike Christians or monotheist religons
#55 to #53 - anon (07/01/2013) [-]
They're cool screenshots.

Plus, you know, there's actual magic in Skyrim, and proof that dozens of gods exist...

#100 to #55 - anon (07/02/2013) [-]
daedra(creatures from different plains of living) are not the aedra(gods)
#123 to #100 - anon (07/02/2013) [-]
The aedra aid you.
Wouldn't call them gods though.
User avatar #131 to #123 - chituat (07/02/2013) [-]
brings the question of "What is considered a god?"
User avatar #65 to #53 - leted (07/02/2013) [-]
And yet daedras did more for me than Talos ever did. That's it, I'm joining the empire.
#92 to #65 - dennymyman (07/02/2013) [-]
**** bitches, drink mead, praise Sanguine
#104 to #92 - drenforcicle (07/02/2013) [-]
Clavicus Vile is better and you know it.
#126 to #104 - jyggalag (07/02/2013) [-]
No, I am better
No, I am better
#182 to #126 - smilinganon (07/02/2013) [-]
Sheogorath is best
User avatar #189 to #182 - newforomador ONLINE (07/02/2013) [-]
Well, Jyggalag is Sheogorath so...
User avatar #191 to #189 - smilinganon (07/02/2013) [-]
But a more serious and boring side of Sheogorath.
#107 to #104 - theaflackduck (07/02/2013) [-]
Agreed good sir.
Agreed good sir.
User avatar #67 to #65 - chituat (07/02/2013) [-]
talos formed the empire.

You cant escape the talos train!
User avatar #68 to #67 - leted (07/02/2013) [-]
....I got arrested by the empire for killing emperor Titus Mead II. That's it, I'm joining the Thalmor.
User avatar #70 to #68 - chituat (07/02/2013) [-]
that should have been an option in the game to begin with.
#122 to #70 - anon (07/02/2013) [-]
I agree.
Instead we have one lousy fetch mission for a Thalmor dude.
#71 - evilwheatleycore (07/02/2013) [-]
This reminded me of one time me and my friends were sitting around a fire, when my best friend's little brother pulls out a Bible. He states that he will try and find something redeemable about it, he flips through all the pages without hesitation. He then proceeds to tear the pages out of the book and throws them into the fire. Every time one of my friends (Most are Atheists) asked him to stop, he says that he just thought it was ******** , then continued.

tldr: I'm fine with whatever you believe in, be it something or nothing, just please don't **** on my religion and say "No offence"
User avatar #180 to #71 - nervaaurelius (07/02/2013) [-]
So he bought a bible just to burn it? That guy is a little **** . Even as an atheist I still have a two bibles in my room(from years ago though when I was a christian but still), I can't imagine destroying any book it just seems...so wasteful.
User avatar #205 to #180 - evilwheatleycore (07/02/2013) [-]
I think it was an old one or something, probably not. But he's probably never seen The Sound of Music.
User avatar #234 to #71 - sandez (07/02/2013) [-]
Burning a book is silly purely because it's a fruitless exercise and a waste. But you are deluded my friend.
You believe some utter garbage with no evidence supporting it, to the point where most of the world is actually pointing their fingers and laughing. The fact you are offended offends me, grow up and stop believing in the tooth fairy based on what you've been told.
Modern day science/evidence>illiterate farmers from thousands of years ago

No offence
#106 to #71 - theaflackduck (07/02/2013) [-]
Exactly! Have your own beliefs, like I give a 			****		! I'm agnostic, once devout Christian. I understand how it is with religion, if you believe in a certain religion, good for you, just don't throw it in my face. If you don't have a religion, say "I'm atheist", not "the thought of a God is stupid" or "you're ignorant".    
tldr: Religion is like dicks. If you have one, that's fine, but don't whip it around in my face, and don't make fun of other people's.
Exactly! Have your own beliefs, like I give a **** ! I'm agnostic, once devout Christian. I understand how it is with religion, if you believe in a certain religion, good for you, just don't throw it in my face. If you don't have a religion, say "I'm atheist", not "the thought of a God is stupid" or "you're ignorant".
tldr: Religion is like dicks. If you have one, that's fine, but don't whip it around in my face, and don't make fun of other people's.
User avatar #158 to #71 - maycontainallergys ONLINE (07/02/2013) [-]
I read that in bobbys voice..
#133 - snakefire (07/02/2013) [-]
As a christian this might not be the most unbias or educated opinion, but I think people only read the god delusion for the following reasons.

1. To feel smart or elitist
2. To have firepower in pointless internet arguments

I mean, it just seems silly. I don't have anything against atheism, but I think that all the fighting I see all the time is ridiculous.

Please feel free to educate me if I'm wrong.
User avatar #202 to #133 - kiratheunholy ONLINE (07/02/2013) [-]
I read things like this not to feel like an elitist or smart. I'm confident in who I am so I don't need any reassurance to think I'm a smart guy.

Moving on from that I read it because there aren't enough people in real life that share my opinion on religion. On the internet there are plenty because atheists can share their opinion without fear of someone ******* them up RL. (I'm not speaking for all of the Christian community but there are quite a rowdy bunch, and people tend to be less-threatening online than in real life.)

I'm not able to find out if someone shares my religious views in real life because it only comes up if I ask. Atheists and Agnostics tend not to share their religious views unless previously prompted. (In real life... not online) Most of the time it's for fear of being ridiculed by the large Catholic and Christian majority. Their fears are not misplaced as there are a number of religious nutjobs out there. Not saying there aren't some bad atheists/agnostics too cause I'm sure some of them try too hard to push their opinion on others.

In short I like reading stuff like this so that I don't feel so alone. While there are a great deal of atheists/agnostics out there like I said not many of them proudly view their opinion in real life.
#207 to #133 - anon (07/02/2013) [-]
I find it common that many Atheists(from ones I have met) seem to ask for more arguments rather than accepting the fact that we will agree to disagree. Whenever we bring up a point that may be valid, they just yell "STOP TRYING TO FORCE YOUR BELIEFS ON ME" and rant on how about they hate Christianity.

If you want us religious people to stop giving a **** about Atheists how about start acting mature instead of acting like fools(this goes to religious people as well).
User avatar #138 to #133 - zomaru (07/02/2013) [-]
You have your books, they have theirs. You have not the right to tell them theirs is wrong and neither do they have the right to denounce yours.
An open discussion about religion is a very rare sight, because it's nearly impossible to think a different way than the way you have thought all you lives.
If you are going to discuss a book that directly goes against your religion, you need to come in leaving everything you have be taught on the contrary behind.
#145 to #138 - noodleofrassilon (07/02/2013) [-]
Hey I remember you   
Hey I remember you
User avatar #147 to #145 - zomaru (07/02/2013) [-]
From where?
#148 to #147 - noodleofrassilon (07/02/2013) [-]
Moffat is Hussie from the future
User avatar #134 to #133 - bandoslootshare ONLINE (07/02/2013) [-]
I feel like athiests who do this are just paranoid that their might actually be a higher power, so they try to convince themselves otherwise by pushing their ideas onto others. As a christian, I do NOT like the church, but me and god are cool buds. I won't go to church and sit there for an hour because I don't feel like that makes you a good christian, but instead helping people does.
#160 to #134 - anon (07/02/2013) [-]
I think we see mostly Christian/Atheist debates on the internet and assume that one is the most pushy over the other. It all depends on who you come into contact with. I have a friend who is Christian who has also admitted that she is determined to convert me. At the same time I've had Atheists, Buddhists, and Agnostics try to do the same. This does not mean that it is insecurity, merely they are a person who likes to debate. If you took this same person and talked to them about politics, they may have the anger and pushiness to their debate. I didn't feel like logging in, so if you wish to talk to me further about this, contact cantbelieveimhere .
User avatar #146 to #134 - Silver Quantum (07/02/2013) [-]
you don't need to believe in god in order to feel the need to help others. bill gates donates billions of dollars to charity every year and has a foundation that encourages other billionaires to do the same. in fact i'd believe many christians would do good deeds just to be able to claim they are good christians, rather than out of the kindness of their hearts
#208 to #146 - anon (07/02/2013) [-]
He also donated money towards abortion clinics.
User avatar #209 to #208 - Silver Quantum (07/02/2013) [-]
...i don't get your point
#186 to #146 - tomthehippie (07/02/2013) [-]
Then they aren't true Christians. A key part of Christianity is the fact (as Christ taught) that good deeds aren't a golden ticket into heaven; because even our good deeds are born out of pride, which is (of course) a sin.

But you are right in that you don't need faith to do good deeds. That being said; Christians are called to do good deeds as a sign that they follow Christ, not because it will gain them brownie points or something along those lines.
User avatar #187 to #186 - Silver Quantum (07/02/2013) [-]
which is why most christians are missing the point. truth is you can't exactly claim there's a whole lot of "true" christians
#188 to #187 - tomthehippie (07/02/2013) [-]
There are, but they are the ones who don't shove it in your face. They are the ones that will calmly discuss their faith with you if you want, but otherwise realize it is a privet affair.

We are called to spread our faith, but there are acceptable ways to do so.

Another large problem is bad preachers/parents/ect.

I call myself an "anarchistic Christian" because I don't really believe in church. This is due to an Elder at my last church trying to tell me I would go to hell because I wouldn't sign a petition against gay marriage.
User avatar #197 to #188 - highclassbean (07/02/2013) [-]
what do you mean by you dont believe in church?
just because you had one pretty awful experience means that church in its entirety is bad?
#206 to #197 - tomthehippie (07/02/2013) [-]
Mainly because it encourages you to let someone else teach you about what God "wants" instead of exploring that for yourself.

Basically, instead of reading the bible by yourself and doing research and soul searching to discover God and what he wants out of you, you let someone dictate to you what you should do, and thus give them power. Plus religious organizations put people in secular authority over a religious group, giving them the illusion of spiritual authority, when in the Bible it is made absolutely clear that ONLY God has spiritual authority.

Basically, ever time any mortal is given spiritual authority, God goes and finds the sorriest sack of **** he can (so that once they start doing amazing **** everyone goes, "WTF?! HE DID THAT? **** ! That HAS to be God!") and tells them, "Hey, I'm God! You're gona go do all this **** , cause I said so! Here's some power!"

Oversimplification to be sure, but close enough for government work.
User avatar #211 to #206 - highclassbean (07/02/2013) [-]
I encourage that people do read the bible and lean about it by yourself in some parts, but the church is meant to help you in your spiritual growth, a gathering of people with like minds all there to give glory to god. the church is a holy thing and should never be abandoned. saying that, not all churches are great. the bible (for the most part) is something a church in a whole should be able to interpret and all agree upon. you seem to be convinced that anyone with any sort of power will abuse it and use it to enforce their will upon all others.
plus there is a spiritual gift of ministering, the purpose of teaching to fellow christians.
seems to me you kinda have been in a forceful church, can't believe an elder would use a turn or burn tactic on a fellow follower, just absolutely insane to me.
just wondering are you part of the "reformed Christianity"?
#246 to #211 - tomthehippie (07/02/2013) [-]
First, you have delved too deeply into what I said. I don't think any congregation will end up as mine did, but the argument still stands.

Too many who end up in a position of authority in a religious group confuse their purely secular authority over a religious group with spiritual authority.

Also, as I have stated, it encourages people to let others teach them about their faith, instead of taking the effort to explore it yourself.

I am not saying that there are not good churches, I am not saying that every church is ****** up.

I am saying that you don't need a church.
User avatar #247 to #246 - highclassbean (07/02/2013) [-]
I just don't see how you came to the conclusion that we don't need church. a church is just a gathering of followers of jesus. hebrews 10:23-25 even says to "not giving up meeting together, as some are in the habit of doing, but encouraging one another"
even if everyone should go off and learn their faith all alone i should expect that most people come out with the same main ideas regardless.
there is no reason to abandon meeting up with other people of the same faith, unless you or them have some sort of radical disagreement or something.
#248 to #247 - tomthehippie (07/02/2013) [-]
I never said people shouldn't meet up to support each other in their faith; merely that the organization of a church is unneeded.

It can be good, it can be bad, but, ultimately, it is unneeded. God lives within us, we do not need a building with people who hold titles to commune with him; all we need is faith and time.
User avatar #190 to #188 - Silver Quantum (07/02/2013) [-]
what the priest was thinking: "threatening someone will surely get me into heaven"
#192 to #190 - tomthehippie (07/02/2013) [-]
Not priest, Elder, non denominational church, not Catholics. Catholics have Priests, non denom (or most Protestant faiths) have preachers, then Elders who help by praying with people, or giving the preacher a day off every once in a while, help run the church, ect.

That being said; its people who don't fully study their faith, or are sure of a certain interpretation of their holy book, who push that. Quite often out of fear of the unknown or fear of change, or even out of self hatred (note that most mass murders [Hitler, Mao, ect] target those like themselves).
#156 to #134 - shamusmcfearson (07/02/2013) [-]
I couldn't agree more on all points you make here. More often than not I find Atheists fulfilling what is traditionally a stigma of Christianity where they;re shoving their beliefs down others throats and/or saying or doing hurtful things to those who don't believe what they do. It used to be that we all had our own beliefs and left it at that, and only spoke up about them when asked and anymore I feel as though every Atheist I meet is just an "in your face asshole" about their beliefs, almost as if they're trying to convince themselves and not those around them.

I'm a christian, I have been since I was born, it's what I believe in and that's that, it wont change until, or even if, I want it too. I believe in God, Heaven, Hell, all of it, I really do, and i'm not afraid to say it, but there are times where I chose not to inform others of my beliefs simply because I don't want to have to continually defend my beliefs and opinions against someone who feels the need to get in my face over my beliefs.

We are all guaranteed many freedoms as human beings, and religious beliefs is one of them, as well as the right to express vocally what we believe, but we have to recognize that those freedoms do not ensure us of freedom from consequences for (and I apologize for not being able to say this in a more elegant way) being assholes to other people because their beliefs aren't our own.

I also apologize for the lengthy post, this is just something i'm passionate about, respecting others beliefs. Even if you don't agree with someones belief, respect their right to have said belief, and don't berate someone because of different beliefs, because what is more childish, believing in something you don't know to be true, or criticizing and ostracizing someone because they don't think like you do?

"People take different roads seeking fulfillment and happiness. Just because they're not on your road doesn't mean they've gotten lost." ~The Dalai Lama

#159 to #156 - noodleofrassilon (07/02/2013) [-]
Deut 13; You actually believe this?
Now, I'm asking a question here, do you believe that is the correct way to behave?
Because that's in the book that a lot of Christians define as the absolute definition of morality.
I keep my non belief secret just as you keep your belief secret, for the same reasons ( but reversed )
There are assholes in every group of people
But nothing about thinking " I don't believe in the claims about the universe that have been presented to me by religion " determines that someone is going to be an asshole.
#185 to #159 - tomthehippie (07/02/2013) [-]
Several points,
1; originally "Christians" referred to themselves as "followers of the Way", referring to the passage where Christ said "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Light"
2; when asked what the most important laws of God were, Christ responded with, "Love God, for if you love him, you will not sin against him. Love your fellow man, for if you love him, you will not sin against him." He states several times that ANY law (biblical or of man) that goes against this ideal is not a law that his followers should follow.
3; Christ came to fulfill the law, how ever the wording used in the original languages implies fulfilling, as one would fulfill a promise, or a prophecy; the implication being that the "old" law has done what it was supposed to, and isn't needed any more. This is because during the Old Testament, when the Lavitical Laws (which you are referring too) were used (note that even Orthodox Jews do not insist anyone other than themselves follow Lavitical Law, and even then are more lenient than the letter of the law), man was at war with God. The reason for Lavitical Law (as a Christian, not an idiot that doesn't actually study his beliefs) was to show man that by law, we are all damned, and the price for that is the life God gave us. Which is why God sent his son, because only God could pay the price we owe God; therefore, God came down to earth and assumed mortal form (Christ, the Son of God) and paid the price of our sins.

The point being; true Christians are called to act out of love in all instances. We are human; we do make mistakes like everyone else, but any "Christian" who acts out of hate is not following what Christ taught.

In the future, if you are going to try to pick apart a faith, try ACTUALLY studying it.
User avatar #142 to #134 - littlehozz ONLINE (07/02/2013) [-]
i read it because although im not athist i dont follow a specific religion and i thought it was worth seeing the other side of the coin but i have to imagine many do read it for the reasons you said
#144 to #134 - noodleofrassilon (07/02/2013) [-]
(Atheist myself )  You're actually right about that on some levels, we are "worried" there might actually be a higher power, because most atheists reached their conclusions thanks to research and logic.  We constantly research the subject matter so we can constantly expand our reasons for our non-belief, because we feel that any belief must be constantly substantiated by evidence and logic or it must be discarded.   
I realized when I was about 13, I would purposely ignore things that made me doubt my faith... then I decided that I would stop doing that, and try to examine everything with equal footing; I decided to read the bible, found out that 			****		 was whack, and that science used evidence to prove stuff.  Deconverted quickly.
(Atheist myself ) You're actually right about that on some levels, we are "worried" there might actually be a higher power, because most atheists reached their conclusions thanks to research and logic. We constantly research the subject matter so we can constantly expand our reasons for our non-belief, because we feel that any belief must be constantly substantiated by evidence and logic or it must be discarded.
I realized when I was about 13, I would purposely ignore things that made me doubt my faith... then I decided that I would stop doing that, and try to examine everything with equal footing; I decided to read the bible, found out that **** was whack, and that science used evidence to prove stuff. Deconverted quickly.
#157 - Coolinbny ONLINE (07/02/2013) [-]
I wouldn't say that our brains are programmed to be religious, rather they are programmed to hold ideologies and form communities of sorts with other people. It happened to be religion to be the great bonding agent because we needed ways to explain things in early civilization, thus you have the Sun god, god of death, etc... and this even went into more complex monotheistic religions as well. Nowadays, regardless of religion, we all form cohesive bonds with groups, whether it's a political party, a football team, or even a fan club, we all join groups and label ourselves because it is an evolutionary method of keeping us cohesive and, through some means, keeping us alive and/or healthy in some way shape or form.
#135 - anon (07/02/2013) [-]
If you know the results you want, you can make any ******** theory to justify it.
User avatar #141 to #135 - zomaru (07/02/2013) [-]
That road goes both ways.
#1 - therichie ONLINE (07/01/2013) [-]
#136 - thefatmenace (07/02/2013) [-]
Well, at least everybody here on Funnyjunk respects each other's religions and can discuss these topics with the utmost civilty
User avatar #139 to #136 - zomaru (07/02/2013) [-]
Such a nice feeling to be able to cry out HEIL HITLER and not have people judge me.
User avatar #137 to #136 - littlehozz ONLINE (07/02/2013) [-]
are you being a smart ass or serious? not trying to be a dick just not sure which.
#140 to #137 - thefatmenace (07/02/2013) [-]
That is me being a smart ass my good sir. The Funnyjunk community seeks knowledge but lacks the desires to understand. And for that it is extremely difficult to explain something such as religion for example.
User avatar #143 to #140 - littlehozz ONLINE (07/02/2013) [-]
agreed. many seek knowledge but if they disagree with a theory or idea such as religion they immediatley become hateful.
#153 to #143 - thefatmenace (07/02/2013) [-]
Well, knowledge is easy to come by. It can be found on the internet, opening a book (I hear that if you look hard enough, a few people have found a few good ones), or simply engaging in an intellectual conversation with somebody else. The difficult part of it all though is to get a better understanding of the situation. For example; somebody can know that losing a family member sucks and that it's extremely depressing and other negative emotions, but they struggle with understanding that feeling because they've never personally experienced it. Since they haven't experienced it; they do not understand the prisice feelings. Which leads me to my next comment; belief. Since an atheist has never truly felt the belief in God, he or she cannot understand the feeling that religious people experience. However, it works in both ways. Religious people have never taken to heart the facts that point out that God does not exist. Neither side wishes to understand the other side and thus both sides will never be able to understand each other. I personally like to play in the middle area and not care whether or not God exists. I'm going to try to be a good person either way so it doesn't matter to me.
User avatar #155 to #153 - littlehozz ONLINE (07/02/2013) [-]
although i dont know you, you are very well spoken and are able to explain this in a good way. thank you for that last comment. i mean this sincerly and not as dick just to clarify
#238 to #155 - thefatmenace (07/02/2013) [-]
It's no worries.
User avatar #232 to #3 - BigDoktor (07/02/2013) [-]
>Endless glutton buffet for only $6.99
>Only perpetually have $6.98 in your pocket
>Yep, this is hell.
#154 - psychfouronenine (07/02/2013) [-]
From what I've seen, people that read that book are just atheist looking for a circle-jerk to comfort themselves. I am a Christian. I have a relationship with God. I have faith in a higher power. The fact that you do not does not make you smarter or more aware. In fact, posting stuff like this proves you're probably a fedora wearing, mountain dew drinking high school reject.

Why can't people realize that science and God actually co-exist. Creationism (the basics of it, at least) can be Evolution. I personally believe the world was created by God through time everything adapted.
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User avatar #228 to #154 - thescatmanohone (07/02/2013) [-]
hey, whatchyew got against mountain dew?
User avatar #194 to #154 - explore (07/02/2013) [-]
>I have a relationship with God

Implying 'god' exists. Also, just thumb me down blindly like you did with the others.
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User avatar #176 to #154 - jagenblitz (07/02/2013) [-]
Couple things:

First off, while I haven't read The God Delusion, I don't see how it's any more of a circlejerk than any religious text. At least The God Delusion uses logic to present an actual argument. Religion isn't some "out-limits" topic, free of criticism or examination. No matter how much some religious people may want it to be.

Secondly, insulting people just because they're examining and thinking about religion (this post doesn't even insult religion) makes you seem like the one looking for comfort.

Thirdly, the only reason science and God "co-exist" is because the Christian god and religion in general is purposely vague as **** and can be attributed to pretty much anything. Hell, 50 years from now the Catholics are probably gonna pull a 180 and declare homosexuality as non-sinful just to keep up with popular opinion.
User avatar #213 to #176 - arkytior (07/02/2013) [-]
With the current pope it could be even sooner... I'm christian but I don't see why being gay is sinful. I don't live word by word by the Bible (Hell, I haven't even read it through the end) and so I think that anything said in there mustn't be taken too seriously. Also, I like Jesus' rules: Love God wholeheartedly, and love your neighbour as yourself. And in my opinion Christianity should follow these two more than any other rule. But some ignore the first one completely.
User avatar #219 to #213 - themachpie (07/02/2013) [-]
well really, a lot of "commandments" from Leviticus were there to keep people from getting sick. pork being a prime example, its very dangerous to eat pork when it isn't refrigerated properly or stored correctly. They didn't have the ability to do so, so its easier to just say don't eat it. same with shell fish. so maybe it was just a way to keep infection from poor hygiene to a minimum. you don't bathe everyday? maybe you shouldn't have anal sex. makes sense to me.
User avatar #110 - YllekNayr ONLINE (07/02/2013) [-]
Interesting analogy, though I think the comparisons to Skyrim could be elaborated further, but you will definitely be hated for this in the comments. Honestly, there are better places to post this, mostly because it isn't particularly funny.

I'm an atheist, btw, if that means anything.
#42 - vegetatheprince (07/01/2013) [-]
It's def. an interesting concept.   
But It'd take more than a few sentences and skyrim pics to make me believe that.
It's def. an interesting concept.

But It'd take more than a few sentences and skyrim pics to make me believe that.
#77 to #42 - anon (07/02/2013) [-]
alot of resarch shows that this is true, look it up
#195 - I Am Monkey (07/02/2013) [-]
I didn't know book reports are now considered front page material.

As euphoric as posting this must have made you, I have no idea what possessed you to post this on Funnyjunk. This is the kind of circlejerk **** you see on reddit. The amount of bravery in the last paragraph was disturbing.
#45 - Steinwolf (07/01/2013) [-]
I don't know why people insist on starting ********** by posting things like this. Here come the 2000+ word comments...
User avatar #25 - datargumme (07/01/2013) [-]
You are kinda wrong there, in the God delusion, he compared religion to the moth in the flame scenerio by hypothesizing that religion in it self is a misfiring of anohter ability we have, not that religion have misfirings in it self.
One of the examples he listed in chapter 5, page 203 in the paperback edition, is the fact that most children accept what their parents say without question, if mommy tells you that it is bad to swim amongst crocodiles, then it is bad to swim amongst crocodiles. and he theorises that perhaps religion manifested it self ammongst common knowledge that way.
In the same book he allso lists the hypothesis that religion is a misfiring of the same gene that generates imaginary friends, but i cant seem to find the exact place in the book he discusses it.

He lists quite a few more posibilities but concludes that there is no evidence yet on how religion arose.
User avatar #114 to #25 - toosexyforyou (07/02/2013) [-]
I don't want to be that guy but if a religious person was doing the same exact study and got the same exact results, they would have said that religion was proven to be useful/correct or something of the sort. Just the fact that he has done studies hinting towards it and admitting there's no evidence that quite hits the mark for it to qualify says something about his studies.
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