I am the one who knocks. . NUT EVEN [WEE. I'll never understand how people claim this is a good story that shows the "glory" of god. He tells Abraham to kill his son, he is all ready to do it
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#336 - anon (07/02/2013) [-]
atheists like african american people will be categorized and "named" as thieves, ignorant, and lazy. religion wins by experience, hense forth the yu gi oh battles, if anyone is interested...since no one wants to stand up to find the true religion, because apparently the excuse for that would be people want to worship their own...the bashing will never end unless we want it to...which in turn we won't want it to end because it goes back to "what we want to do"...with this is in mind operation true religion has been effect in many different sects all over america, no one dies yet, but we will be forced to stand up, just like preoccupying yourself with video games and the internet for more thna eight hours, saying that is what you deserve after a day's hardwork. Our goal is to make most of you work hard to dismiss this entire post.
#340 to #336 - anon (07/02/2013) [-]
First of all stop using saucelabs and testingbot, 2nd your statement makes no sense in the real world. But here fellow funnyjunk citizen, here is my thumbs up.
#345 to #336 - anon (07/02/2013) [-]
than*
#341 to #336 - teranin (07/02/2013) [-]
Whatever this guy is smoking sounds awesome.
#265 to #2 - thenoodleking **User deleted account** (07/02/2013) [-]
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User avatar #319 to #185 - coolcalx (07/02/2013) [-]
at least it's not one of those ******** retarded feminist posts that involve strawman arguments about hypothetical people.
User avatar #260 to #185 - kimilsung (07/02/2013) [-]
you know you are being hated when you have a reaction pic specific for you
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#270 to #260 - teranin (07/02/2013) [-]
I take it as a compliment.
#287 to #270 - anon (07/02/2013) [-]
as how you take a dick to the ass.
User avatar #355 to #270 - masterboll (07/02/2013) [-]
youve pretty much elbowed your way into the Daily Atheist Faggots newspaper

i wouldnt really say its something youre admired for
#357 to #356 - masterboll (07/02/2013) [-]


you like being called a faggot,
dont you, op?
#358 to #357 - teranin (07/02/2013) [-]
more of an "I don't care" mentality.
User avatar #219 - swazer (07/01/2013) [-]
To Abrahams defense, the "inner voice" also told him to not do it.
#285 to #219 - blanketandpillow (07/02/2013) [-]
When this happened to me, I was labeled as insane and unfit to raise a child.
#300 to #285 - anon (07/02/2013) [-]
ha you having sex.
User avatar #344 to #219 - infedel ONLINE (07/02/2013) [-]
your text hurts my eyes
#246 to #219 - bagofshit (07/02/2013) [-]
Your text is bluer than your username.
User avatar #354 to #246 - swazer (07/02/2013) [-]
Blame DJ 4DM1N
User avatar #254 to #246 - graydiggy (07/02/2013) [-]
Is it bluer than my username?
#54 - anon (07/01/2013) [-]
Believing that everything came from nothing Isn't normal, but on math it is.
#39 - skiskate (07/01/2013) [-]
MFW the religion *********
#227 - anon (07/01/2013) [-]
Sigh.

he DIDN'T sacrifice his son, that's the point of the story!

#286 to #227 - blanketandpillow (07/02/2013) [-]
*threatens to push son off cliff and takes him up there, forcing him towards the edge.* Oh wait, nevermind! The voice told me not to. Come on, Sport, let's go get ice cream. What do you mean you're calling child services? I DIDN'T push you off the cliff, so it's really not that bad.
User avatar #5 - thereoncewasaman (07/01/2013) [-]
I'll never understand how people claim this is a good story that shows the "glory" of god. He tells Abraham to kill his son, he is all ready to do it but then god is like loljk not really bro. So god is cool with lying, down with sacrifice, and wants to prove that he is more important than anyone else. That sounds really ****** up, just as ****** up as being down to kill your own son because you were told to.
Anyone have any idea how this could be twisted to have a positive message?
User avatar #364 to #5 - thereoncewasaman (07/30/2013) [-]
I havent had internet for a month and I come back and find out this comment caused a huge discussion.
User avatar #60 to #5 - axlsummer (07/01/2013) [-]
Louis CK - Louie - God is like a shitty girlfriend vid has bad quality but louis says exactly this in this video only in the funniest way ever!
User avatar #95 to #5 - hudis (07/01/2013) [-]
Pretty sure God is a psychopath.
#24 to #5 - organiclead (07/01/2013) [-]
Well, this game is about someone dealing with his inner demons while using the story as a vehicle...
User avatar #55 to #24 - floydrose (07/01/2013) [-]
YESSS.. YEESSS!!!!
#218 to #5 - anon (07/01/2013) [-]
Actually he was preparing to sacrifice him when he spots an alternative, a lamb. People back in the day had to make sacrifices, because they did not have the atonement (Which was jesus's sacrifice).
User avatar #236 to #5 - garymotherfingoak (07/02/2013) [-]
Old Testament, cunt.
User avatar #301 to #5 - condimentparty (07/02/2013) [-]
I believe God was trying to test Abraham's loyalty.
User avatar #32 to #5 - dadukesta (07/01/2013) [-]
The message is to trust God no matter what, which is what Abraham did and it turned out okay so what's the problem?
#48 to #32 - anon (07/01/2013) [-]
Because God (aka the crazy voice in your head) tells people to kill, and they do so without being stopped.
So it's a terrible ******* message.
User avatar #49 to #48 - dadukesta (07/01/2013) [-]
But no one dies so it's just like being anonymous on the internet.
User avatar #12 to #5 - jokeface (07/01/2013) [-]
Well first off I think it pretty plainly shows that God does not require human sacrifices, as He stopped Abraham from doing it. Secondly there was no lying involved. God gave an order, Abraham obeyed, then God gave Him another order and Abraham obeyed again. There was no deceit involved. And thirdly, the positive message to be taken from this is the lesson we learn from Abraham's unwavering loyalty to God. That's the kind of obedience all humans should exhibit to God.
#22 to #12 - teranin (07/01/2013) [-]
and yet, Abraham was perfectly fine executing his son for God under his first orders, even though God could just as easily have taken the child's life without abraham's intervention, but his arrogance was so great that he needed that degree of manipulative *********** in order to get his nuts off. It's the kind of sick manipulative **** that a crazy person would engage in, so how could any functioning adult actually think this story was in any way "good" if people that gain control over others through religion didn't keep telling them "god is good" over and over again, while detailing stories that directly countermand that statement?

TLR God of the western monotheistic religions is a genocidal psycopath, why would someone worship that!?
User avatar #26 to #22 - jokeface (07/01/2013) [-]
It had to be Abraham's will to obey God, otherwise his love for God would mean nothing. If God just killed Isaac against Abraham's will, then Abraham would just be a slave. By doing it the way He did it, God maintained Abraham's freedom.
User avatar #28 to #26 - teranin (07/01/2013) [-]
God is omniscient, therefore he knows all that ever was, is, and will be. As such, he pre-emptively knew exactly what abraham would do, and as such, abraham never had free will to begin with, nor does anyone else if you truly believe in the existence of the omnipotent, omniscient and infallible god of the western religions.

Even if none of that was the case, I have heard that justification used before, but it clearly paints god as a total dick completely concerned with how others view him. Why would you worship something that socially awkward and merciless?
User avatar #29 to #28 - jokeface (07/01/2013) [-]
I'm not going to get into the free will paradox, that would take a whole other thread. Point is I don't agree that it's a paradox.

And how we view God is the most important thing in existence, because it determines where we'll be spending eternity after leaving Earth. Speaking of which, how dare you call God merciless, it was His mercy that saved us from hell. It was the most merciful thing He could have possibly done, short of deleting us from existence.
User avatar #30 to #29 - teranin (07/01/2013) [-]
He created hell, he created us, and he damns all to hell that do not worship him and praise his name. So how is that merciful, and how does that not make his implied existence about the most cunty thing ever?
#35 to #30 - anon (07/01/2013) [-]
I actually thought of a way to make god not evil: he's a maniac with split personality disorder, who found himself accidentally in charge of the universe. Half the time he's trying to teach us to love and get along peacefully so that someday we can develop an advanced society and find a cure to his madness. The rest of the time he's killing people and being obsessed with figs. Seriously, as long as we are considering omnipotent, omniscient gods, this is a way better theory than joke-face's "not a paradox" ******** .
#103 to #30 - anon (07/01/2013) [-]
He didn't create hell.
The devil did after he was expelled from heaven. >-<
This is why the devil wants us to sin. He wants people to have the same cursed fate he did. That's why he convinced Eve to eat the apple. Because he's a douche. That's also why he challenges god to contests on multiple occasions concerning faith, like in the situation of people like Abraham and Job.
#106 to #103 - teranin (07/01/2013) [-]
God created the devil, therefore god vicariously created hell which is defined as the absence of the presence of the glory of god (which is about the most smug 			********		 imagineable).  The devil is god's creation, therefore not only does god want us to sin through his creation, he wants us to worship him and not sin as well, so he plays little games that end up being like a sick braggart competition between himself and his creation in reference to his other creation, all so he can get his jollies.  How is this not 			*******		 ridiculous?
God created the devil, therefore god vicariously created hell which is defined as the absence of the presence of the glory of god (which is about the most smug ******** imagineable). The devil is god's creation, therefore not only does god want us to sin through his creation, he wants us to worship him and not sin as well, so he plays little games that end up being like a sick braggart competition between himself and his creation in reference to his other creation, all so he can get his jollies. How is this not ******* ridiculous?
User avatar #233 to #30 - jokeface (07/01/2013) [-]
Hell is the result of man's decision to turn away from Him. All humans deserve to go there because we're all wicked. He's merciful because He created a way for us to be spared of that fate.
#25 to #22 - anon (07/01/2013) [-]
Stay mad, ***** .
#87 to #22 - yofutofu (07/01/2013) [-]
Comment Picture
#92 to #87 - teranin (07/01/2013) [-]
the Torah. unless you mean the pic, in which case Warhammer 40k, it's a fanart that I got... somewhere.
#7 to #5 - anon (07/01/2013) [-]
The epistle to the Hebrews better explains the story, where it is revealed Abraham was told God would raise Isaac up by his faith after his death. A father gives up his beloved son so that he may die and be risen...sound familiar? Although it might not be a perfect method of foreshadowing, this is the common interpretation of the Binding of Isaac.
#59 to #5 - firstresponder (07/01/2013) [-]
I know, I never really understood this as a biblical story. I guess it's supposed to show how people must be willing to do anything for God. I don't see how asking someone to murder their own child is fair to ask of somebody to prove that they love you
#238 to #5 - blackrookfiend (07/02/2013) [-]
God's logic is beyond you reasoning. His tests are for he alone to comprehend.
Don't try to poke holes in the logic of a being you can't actually understand.
If the One God does indeed exist, he is far beyond any kind of reasoning you can understand. That's a given for an omnipotent creature.
#283 to #238 - blanketandpillow (07/02/2013) [-]
That's like hitting your wife infront of your child, and when your kid says that it was a bad thing to do, claiming that you're far smarter than him and know more than they do, so that they shouldn't question you at all.
User avatar #312 to #283 - superanonymouspers ONLINE (07/02/2013) [-]
Basically what every parent says.

"I'm the parent, I don't have to give you a reason."
User avatar #313 to #283 - thekaiseroxc (07/02/2013) [-]
Comparing the commands of a being who created existence and the universe to a human father striking his wife is trivial.

Assuming that this being exists and he did in fact create the universe and mankind, don't you think his reasoning and actions would be completely beyond our comprehension?

User avatar #27 to #5 - ponieskilledmyacc (07/01/2013) [-]
Something on the lines: obey god, he won't (seriously) tell you to do something wrong?
User avatar #6 to #5 - metalmind (07/01/2013) [-]
Brainwashing.
#342 to #5 - truthfullier (07/02/2013) [-]
...he send down his own son from heaven to be sacrificed for your own sins..
Whats my point you say? I was going to say something smart but then i forgot..
#314 to #5 - anon (07/02/2013) [-]
Believer or not, this story holds remarkable symetry when read in the context of the new testament. I.e. God asks the very first of his chosen people to sacrifice his only son to test how much he loved and obeyed God. Once satisfied Abe would do it, he stops him as if saying "I'd never make you do that for me" then centuries later, Jesus goes to the cross, God's only son, and dies as a sacrified, as if saying "But I'd do it for you." , yes I'm a believer, but this is more of a literary approach.
#152 to #5 - anon (07/01/2013) [-]
It's that you should trust god and have faith in his power. He isnt actually going to ask you to kill your son thats just silly
User avatar #266 to #5 - marcalo (07/02/2013) [-]
He lied?
User avatar #141 to #5 - epitaph (07/01/2013) [-]
So I read most of the comments and i'm sorry to say (red thumbs inc.) that most of these people are wrong. The "MAIN" part of the story isn't to show a dedication to do anything for God, that is the straightforward idea, but when you read that passage in it's entirety, God stops Abraham and provides a lamb to be sacrificed. The story is to show that God will provide the perfect sacrifice (Jesus) as the payment for death and sin. As he provided the ram/lamb/sheep for Abraham instead of allowing him to sacrifice Issac. The payment for sin being human's death. Hopefully that was insightful to you thereoncewasaman.
#222 to #5 - anon (07/01/2013) [-]
Well people back in the day had to make sacrifices as a forum of repentance. Also he was preparing to sacrifice him when he spots an alternative. People no longer had to make sacrifices because of the atonement though Jesus Christ.
#139 to #5 - anon (07/01/2013) [-]
It's supposed to prove that blind faith is best faith.
User avatar #205 to #5 - PrismaLowell (07/01/2013) [-]
I take it to mean that people should never blindly follow what other people tell them to do, even if it is from somebody very important to you.
#102 to #5 - anon (07/01/2013) [-]
It was an early forshadowing of Jesus' death on the Cross. For example, 3 men went up, (including Abraham's servent), 3 men went to the Cross. Abraham told Isaac that God would provide a sacrifice for them. (Christ is called the lamb of God), a lamb was slain, (Christ died on the cross), etc.
#61 to #5 - newberry (07/01/2013) [-]
The purpose of the story is to show how it was a test of Abraham's devotion to god and what he was willing to sacrifice for him, thus his son Isaac. But yea i can see what you mean it is a little over the top when people call it a incredible representation of the "Glory" of God.

Though i do consider myself a christian. i dont like to affiliate myself with the christian community. All arguments christians and atheists both seem to use consists mainly through the Old Testament. I completely ignore the old testament besides the 10 commandments because lets face it, Old testament god was angry and mean, New testament god was alot nicer. Jesus, also in the new testament says NOTHING regarding the gay community and openly accepts everyone, I mean he hung out with the most hated people, tax collectors and even prostitutes.

Sorry about this semi-religious rant
User avatar #262 to #61 - effort ONLINE (07/02/2013) [-]
Lol, ignore the old Testament?

Here are some quotes from Jesus, explicitly saying do not ignore its content.

"...till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass the law until all is accomplished. Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven;..." (Matthew 5:18-19 RSV)

"It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid." (Luke 16:17 NAB)

"Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets..." (Matthew 5:17 NAB)

and the list goes on how Jesus says no one should ever disregard the contents of the old testament, and how it should always be followed.
#73 to #61 - Grubinhymer (07/01/2013) [-]
If god is all knowing and all powerful then he knew the outcome of the test before he asked abraham to kill his son.   
   
GOD LOGIC
If god is all knowing and all powerful then he knew the outcome of the test before he asked abraham to kill his son.

GOD LOGIC
#79 to #73 - anon (07/01/2013) [-]
He was showing the devil actually. This happens again in the story of Jeb and his family. >->
#82 to #79 - teranin (07/01/2013) [-]
I thought it was Job? and yeah, that story is extremely ****** up. God's FW all of the **** that he did to Job
User avatar #89 to #82 - coldactill (07/01/2013) [-]
The Devil's one rebuttal to God is basically that we humans are not devoted and don't have faith, and are therefore not worth his time. If it weren't for Job and Abraham's loyalty then God would have to agree with Satan on this, or he would merely say 'well if i asked so and so to kill his own son he would do it' which has no basis unless it's proven. Hope that helps make a little sense.
User avatar #221 to #89 - oceanfrank (07/01/2013) [-]
I'm not gonna lie, wouldnt God be the bigger man and just say, "Cool story bro?" and just let abraham and job continue worshipping them? When Jesus was tempted by the devil he could've done everything the devil told him to do to prove he was the son of God but didn't need to because of his faith but here God blatently goes against that. I was raised as a catholic and am now a protestant and it just kind of gets to me that something like that would happen. Something isn't right in the old testament, it shows clear as day.
User avatar #90 to #89 - teranin (07/01/2013) [-]
Yes, I already understood what went on in that story. It really doesn't make god any less of a douche for doing it in the first place, especially in the context of being a braggart competative with a being that was merely another of his creations.
#289 to #79 - anon (07/02/2013) [-]
You just went full religious retard.
#88 - enlil (07/01/2013) [-]
#192 - telmarine (07/01/2013) [-]
i find it rude to talk about religion in general   
   
i couldn't give less of a 			****		 if i sewed my asshole shut about what you believe in or don't believe in. just don't shove it in my face
i find it rude to talk about religion in general

i couldn't give less of a **** if i sewed my asshole shut about what you believe in or don't believe in. just don't shove it in my face
#58 - tehfalconguy ONLINE (07/01/2013) [-]
Anyone else's mind automatically go to this?
yes I know I'm a huge nerd
#215 to #58 - anon (07/01/2013) [-]
I just completed a play-through.

Are The Chest unlocks/achieves glitched for you at all?
User avatar #225 to #58 - sirfisticuffs (07/01/2013) [-]
Yes, **** yes
User avatar #105 to #58 - brackgrapple (07/01/2013) [-]
Me, I love tboi
User avatar #211 - ireallylikepotatoe (07/01/2013) [-]
It's pretty hard to love thy neighbor when you people keep posting the same anti religion ******** over and over again.

Seriously, get some new jokes.
#214 to #211 - teranin (07/01/2013) [-]
This should be your new profile picture.
User avatar #217 to #214 - ireallylikepotatoe (07/01/2013) [-]
Don't tell me what to do.
#220 to #217 - teranin (07/01/2013) [-]
I love you too.
#206 - jurto (07/01/2013) [-]
You got it wrong
#133 - mayormilkman (07/01/2013) [-]
Teranin's face when he posts another &quot;atheist&quot; post.
Teranin's face when he posts another "atheist" post.
#164 to #133 - anon (07/01/2013) [-]
What if it was a Christian that posted this?

Or, you know, let's just assume incorrectly out of butthurt
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User avatar #166 to #164 - mayormilkman (07/01/2013) [-]
It would take more than that to make me butthurt, but it's not like we can't be silly too!
#175 to #164 - teranin (07/01/2013) [-]
it's ok, mayormilkman makes a habit of talking smack about me, it really doesn't bother me. I really have never gotten this fedora fixation thing, though.
it's ok, mayormilkman makes a habit of talking smack about me, it really doesn't bother me. I really have never gotten this fedora fixation thing, though.
User avatar #188 to #175 - mayormilkman (07/01/2013) [-]
Do you want to learn about fedoras?

A while ago, probably some time in 2012, 4chan users noted in their rage threads that a lot of bronies wore fedoras. This led to fedoras being "autistic" and so forth it spread.
#194 to #188 - teranin (07/01/2013) [-]
I guess without seeing the proper contextual buildup of the joke I'll have to go with the old man defense of "I just don't get kids these days"
User avatar #197 to #194 - mayormilkman (07/01/2013) [-]
It's all I know.
#75 - TheInvader ONLINE (07/01/2013) [-]
The new jehovah witness
#78 to #75 - teranin (07/01/2013) [-]
No atheist would ever do that. No atheist tries to convert people to atheism, as atheism is not a religion but is rather the absence thereof. We just want people to stop enforcing their religious beliefs onto us in the form of blue laws and other nonsense, and we want people to stop icing each other and mutilating each other over imaginary friends.
User avatar #91 to #78 - shiifter (07/01/2013) [-]
You must be new to the internet.
#120 to #91 - anon (07/01/2013) [-]
all of you faggots shut the hell up okay just one big ******* ********* that nobody gives two ***** about oh a ******* internet argument lets let them know i am the ******* toughest and smarterst man on earth by telling them what is right because everyone here is wrong
SHUT THE HELL UP
#104 to #78 - anon (07/01/2013) [-]
Then why is there an atheism channel?
Where all of the fun loving atheists come to make Christians mad with posts I might add. >->
#108 to #104 - teranin (07/01/2013) [-]
atheists find this joke in the content funny, and christians get angry and start ********** over it. The channel is for bringing relevant jokes to their target audience, not for arbitrarily converting the religious to precisely not that.
#81 to #75 - anon (07/01/2013) [-]
Like religious people have any room to talk
User avatar #84 to #81 - TheInvader ONLINE (07/01/2013) [-]
That is true and I agree, but i am saying is that Atheism is turning just like Religion, both can't stop ramming beliefs down people throats, thumb up for you
User avatar #115 to #84 - smittywrbmnjnsn (07/01/2013) [-]
Buddy.
One is asking you to convert...
the other is simply making fun of you.

They're different.
User avatar #122 to #115 - napalmpie (07/01/2013) [-]
Technically being an atheist is a religious belief. You believe there is no god. You are sure of it, like a very religious christian is sure that God exist.
If you don't care and wait for proofs, then it is agnosticism.
#199 to #122 - anon (07/01/2013) [-]
Atheism isn't a religion. Neither, technically, is Theism. They are merely positions on one aspect of religion, the question of whether or not a deity exists. Religion, defined at its most broad, is a comprehensive belief system. Thus, while theism is not a religion by itself, because it does not proscribe a position on any other aspect of the universe or morality, Christianity is a religion, because it is a comprehensive belief system. Similarly, while atheism is not a religion, one could argue that Secular Humanism is. Of course, there you run into the problem of whether a belief system can be called a religion if it is non-dogmatic and contains no element of the supernatural or the sacred
User avatar #207 to #199 - napalmpie (07/01/2013) [-]
Wow this is too smart for me right now. If you live around where I live I would be really pleased to discuss it with you over a beer, or something else if you don't like beer, but now and through the internet, this is just not possible for me.
But I guess I agree with you.
Have a nice day (or whatever time of the day it is where you live), like everyone else here (at least those who can discuss without raging or, simply, discuss instead of just thumbing down).
#165 to #122 - anon (07/01/2013) [-]
If atheism is a religion then not smoking is a habit.
User avatar #176 to #165 - napalmpie (07/01/2013) [-]
Yes it is... and no it isn't.
After reading what other people said and thinking about it, I don't think we can't compare a belief with anything else.
Some people just can't smoke or it will kill them (cancer). Well huh, smoking give you cancer anyway after a certain time, but if you have lung cancer for some reason and then start smoking... well you'll die in, maybe, one or two year.
For the arguments of the two other dudes, if ever they read this:
I like skiing but I haven"t enough money to buy the equipment and I don't live near mountains.
You can choose to be bald, obviously. But it can also happen by itself. Atheism or theism can't happen by itself.
#187 to #176 - anon (07/01/2013) [-]
Actually it can. Nobody knows religion until it is taught to them.
User avatar #200 to #187 - napalmpie (07/01/2013) [-]
Then that's not atheism, they didn't choose to believe that no god existed, they just didn't give a **** . Then someone come and ask them "Have you ever wondered where do lightning comes from?" And it create a religion.
Without theism there is no atheism. Because before chosing to not trust, you must have something to believe in.

Now, excuse me but I'm going back to my blankets.
User avatar #125 to #122 - smittywrbmnjnsn (07/01/2013) [-]
No.
Atheism is the lack of belief in any god or deity.
It is not a belief...it is a lack there of.

Agnosticism is believing that there COULD be a god.
I do not believe there COULD be a god, but if there were evidence to the sort...only an idiot would refuse to change their mind.
I am atheist...and atheism is not a belief.
User avatar #131 to #125 - napalmpie (07/01/2013) [-]
I was re-reading my comment when you answered and wondering why the **** did I post it here.

But anyway:
Yes, it is a religious belief. You chosed to believe there is no god. It is a religious opinion to think that. The only thing who make it different than other beliefs is that you don't have any religious ritual or temple. But you made the choice to believe there is no god.
If there were evidence that any god or pantheon existed, would it be God, Allah, Buddha, the Indian, Scandinavian or Celtic pantheon, obviously anybody would "believe" in it. Furthermore, there would be no need to believe in it since we would be sure it exist.
User avatar #269 to #131 - YllekNayr ONLINE (07/02/2013) [-]
Yeah, no. It's a lack of theistic belief. Children are born without theistic belief, erego, atheist. After that point, they can learn about theistic belief, and CHOOSE the be atheists, or choose to be theists, or be indoctrinated into theistic religion without their consent because their parents made them go to their church before they had the capability for rational thought and reasoning.
User avatar #353 to #269 - napalmpie (07/02/2013) [-]
I don't know anymore, I had been thinking a lot about it yesterday before sleeping (is this even a correct sentence? >_> ).

If we take it by the side of etymology, a-theism is "I don't believe in any god" (i.e. "I don't give a **** "), and thus it is similar to agnosticism. Then we can maybe say it is not a religious belief, and a distinction between atheism and agnosticism would be that atheists don't care at all about gods and agnostics are searching for proof who could testify there's a god. Now that is a bit weird, because like I said to the other guy, if we could be sure (with proofs) that a god exist, it would be no point in believing in it. That would be just like believing in mountains, or in the chair on which your buttocks are. You don't need to believe, you know they're here.

Believing there is no god is antitheism ("No, I tell you there is no god, that kind of stuff is not possible"). Therefore we could say an "intergrist atheist" is an antitheist.
My reasoning reached this point when my brain went all like " **** your **** man" and started to think about other stuff before turning itself off.
User avatar #360 to #353 - YllekNayr ONLINE (07/02/2013) [-]
Believing there is no god is a strong atheist, or perhaps gnostic. You could be an agnostic atheist that believes there is no god, but you're only REALLY sure, not 100% sure.

Theist believes in at least one god.
Anti-theist hates theistic beliefs.
Atheist lacks of belief in gods.
Agnostic is a position of knowledge regarding your theistic perspective.
#359 to #353 - YllekNayr ONLINE (07/02/2013) [-]
Maybe this will help.

Atheism and agnosticism are not exclusive.
User avatar #137 to #131 - TexMex (07/01/2013) [-]
"Calling Atheism a religion is like calling bald a hair color."
--Don Hirschberg
#169 to #137 - anon (07/01/2013) [-]
"Calling atheism a religion is like calling not smoking a habit."
This one is better
User avatar #151 to #137 - shiifter (07/01/2013) [-]
It's not a hair color, its a hairstyle.
User avatar #153 to #151 - napalmpie (07/01/2013) [-]
That's what I was going to answer too.
#140 to #137 - napalmpie (07/01/2013) [-]
Well that's a point. Kind of.
User avatar #136 to #131 - smittywrbmnjnsn (07/01/2013) [-]
"Saying Atheism is a belief system, is like saying not going skiing is a hobby"
And for the rest...no **** .
That's exactly what I said, and there was no need for you to dumb it down.
I am not WAITING for proof because I do not believe there will be any.
But if some were to arise...I would no longer be atheist.
User avatar #191 to #136 - napalmpie (07/01/2013) [-]
Ugggg ******* sorry I misreaded what you wrote >_>

Well maybe it sounded like dumbing down what you said. But that wasn't my goal. I was trying to say that, if we were sure of the existence of any god, there would be no point in believing in it. This wouldn't be a belief, only a knowledge.

But I think I'm just going to bed, it's 1am here, my ideas are going like wet spaghettis and my capacity to reflect is goin' down.
User avatar #150 to #136 - napalmpie (07/01/2013) [-]
I didn't thumb you down, I never thumb down people who are just giving opinion. It would be like, I'm discussing with someone, then because I disagree I pinch him or crush his foot. I don't know who's the ****** who thumbed you down.
Also, personnally when someone thumb me down I rage two seconds and then carry on... what's the point of being angry against someone you don't know and probably will never know?

Then for the skiing stuff you're maybe right. But I can answer by another quote: "Absence of proof isn't proof of absence"
#173 to #150 - anon (07/01/2013) [-]
Actually it is. Something doesn't exist until we can actually verify its existence.
User avatar #186 to #173 - napalmpie (07/01/2013) [-]
Yeah well, I can't argue with that. Anyway debating with quotes never lead really far. I answered him with a quote because he gave me one, who wasn't really correct itself.
User avatar #267 to #122 - YllekNayr ONLINE (07/02/2013) [-]
Technically, no it's not.
#163 - anon (07/01/2013) [-]
Is it just me or are the majority of atheists on the internet Otaku fags?
User avatar #168 to #163 - mayormilkman (07/01/2013) [-]
I dunno, but OP definitely is. He's also got some furry tendencies and is an MRA.
#178 to #168 - anon (07/01/2013) [-]
so teranin is pretty much everything that's obnoxious about FJ?
User avatar #183 to #178 - mayormilkman (07/01/2013) [-]
Yes.
#170 to #168 - teranin (07/01/2013) [-]
Hold up, I'm an equal rights activist and antifeminist, not an MRA, and what the 			****		 furry tendencies are you talking about?
Hold up, I'm an equal rights activist and antifeminist, not an MRA, and what the **** furry tendencies are you talking about?
User avatar #171 to #170 - mayormilkman (07/01/2013) [-]
I've seen you post furry before.
Also, the MRAs are associated with fedoras by the Tumblr crowd.
#184 to #171 - teranin (07/01/2013) [-]
when the 			****		 have I posted furry?  I mean I made that one joke comment when someone posted something about Krystal, which was that feminist failed initiative that fell on it's face a while back, and that was a fully clothed video game character, far from anything involving furry stuff.
when the **** have I posted furry? I mean I made that one joke comment when someone posted something about Krystal, which was that feminist failed initiative that fell on it's face a while back, and that was a fully clothed video game character, far from anything involving furry stuff.
#257 to #184 - anon (07/02/2013) [-]
Misogyny, anime, fedoras, pieces are really falling into place...
User avatar #259 to #257 - teranin (07/02/2013) [-]
I am not a misogynist, and I don't wear fedoras, so what pieces, exactly?
#264 to #259 - anon (07/02/2013) [-]
are you now or have you ever been in possession of a "waifu"?
User avatar #271 to #264 - teranin (07/02/2013) [-]
No, that would be idiotic.
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