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On September rrd, 2003 FFA
the Hubble Space Telescope
began pointing its camera at
a small area in the night sky.
The area, about a tenth the size
of the full moon, appeared to be
complete blackness with no
stars visible to the naked eye.
Hubble kept its camera pointed
there for over 4 months, taking
in all the light t could.
This is what Hubble saw...
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Each up to, 1 trillion stars.
Each star may have a system of planets.
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#341 - thype (06/23/2013) [-]
#61 - dudeimlikeadude (06/22/2013) [-]
I expected it to say "But can Hubble see why kids love cinnamon toast crunch?"
#184 to #61 - joeledo (06/23/2013) [-]
In my physics class we are given reading assignments in which we have to take notes and ask 4 questions per section. I didn't have any questions on the section so I wrote "why do kids love the taste of cinnamon toast crunch?" My teacher was unamused and she took points off.
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#118 to #61 - hotsamrj (06/23/2013) [-]
no thanks needed
User avatar #469 to #118 - irvea (06/23/2013) [-]
Not sure why you need it but no thanks.
#6 - doctorcolonel (06/22/2013) [-]
How I feel now.
#401 to #6 - anon (06/23/2013) [-]
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User avatar #32 - therealdiscord (06/22/2013) [-]
And some people still doubt the existence of extraterrestrial life...
User avatar #214 to #32 - tisjunkisdamnfunny (06/23/2013) [-]
almost confirms it here...
#501 to #32 - anon (06/23/2013) [-]
There are no aliens, the bible says so.
User avatar #527 to #501 - osimonmagus (06/23/2013) [-]
Not only are you a terrible troll, but it doesn't say anywhere in the Bible that there isn't other life forms. The people who wrote the bible didn't even know what a galaxy was....
#506 to #32 - anon (06/23/2013) [-]
bitch u gottta b a serios dum cunt if u think theres alein life out there. if there was was theyd hav conquerd us by now wit their superior alin weapons
#530 to #506 - penetractor (06/23/2013) [-]
the distances between stars are so big so how would they find us, dumb cunt. and by the way your grammar sucks
the distances between stars are so big so how would they find us, dumb cunt. and by the way your grammar sucks
User avatar #547 to #530 - footballmaniac (06/23/2013) [-]
Keep calm and do not feed the trolls.
#135 to #32 - anon (06/23/2013) [-]
The fact that life exists here on Earth is more than enough proof that life can and does exist elsewhere. It may be an extremely small chance because of its requirements, but considering just how large the universe is, that chance is multiplied by a really, really REALLY large number.
Finding existing sentient life on the other hand would be near impossible though... At least for now as we haven't even fully explored our solar system let alone Earth itself.
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#126 to #32 - atomschlumpf (06/23/2013) [-]
User avatar #550 to #32 - commanderbunbun (06/23/2013) [-]
it's not extraterrestrial life i doubt, it's intelligent life. and not just outside of out own planet.
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#551 to #32 - drewbridge (06/23/2013) [-]
I doubt because it hasn't been close to proven yet.    
"The universe is big, therefore aliens exist" is not a scientific argument.   
Bacteria and stuff, yeah, that has evidence. Nothing else.
I doubt because it hasn't been close to proven yet.
"The universe is big, therefore aliens exist" is not a scientific argument.

Bacteria and stuff, yeah, that has evidence. Nothing else.
#147 to #32 - anon (06/23/2013) [-]
Here's my take. The universe is very very large. There is a very good chance of other life. However, the universe is so vastly large that they would be hard to find, like trying to find a needle in all the hay ever made.
User avatar #526 to #32 - osimonmagus (06/23/2013) [-]
Well, some say that the more we learn the more we realize that that life doesn't exist out there. That, the more we learn the more we realize how rare we truly are; how alone we are. Granted, we haven't been searching long and to our knowledge no type of radio or whatever electromagnetic wave frequency that e.t. might converse on if any has been picked up by us. Some even go as far to think that the Universe is actually quite old in regards to the life span of a universe and we might be the last ones left. This is all speculation of course, but just because something is large don't expect to find something in it.
User avatar #533 to #526 - mrhazzy (06/23/2013) [-]
we picked up a radio signal that lasted only a few seconds back in 1977 I think...
User avatar #535 to #533 - osimonmagus (06/23/2013) [-]
Well yeah, but you can also pick up the cosmic EMF on your bunny eared t.v. It's like....1% or extremely small but that snow you see on bunny ear t.v. some of that is the oldest radiation we've ever recorded. So, finding a stray radio signal is not extreme proof of e.t. We use radio waves because it's practical on our planet. Who knows what actually sent that radio signal. Probably some gamma burst that is past the observable universe and has been stretched due to the expansion of space.
#536 to #535 - mrhazzy (06/23/2013) [-]
Just Sayin'
Just Sayin'
User avatar #97 to #32 - thewaronbeingcool (06/22/2013) [-]
I think most people don't question that.

They question whether aliens snatch people in the night and stick things up their ass.
User avatar #176 to #32 - rhiaanor (06/23/2013) [-]
I feel like based on my little scientific knowledge, we could be the first sentient life since, considering how long there has been life on our planet but we only arrose with sentience... not that long ago. I do feel 100% that there is another planet that can and will sustain life. Like uh, like that alpha centauri thing, cant that support life? Have we even tryed to look for life on that planet? And you never know what life may arrise, i mean look at the waterbear. We just base off of what can support life because of what can support us, but what if some creature in the universe, which is too vast AND is ever expanding, so it would be foolish to outright deny other life, survived by breathing like, **** i don't carbon or something instead of oxygen? What if something didn't need to breath it simply survived off of the energy from what it ate. What if that thing were to eat iron as it's main diet or something I mean we have tiny little bastards that eat wood so why not. Personally I hope that there isn't other life, but I have not a doubt in my ind that there is, maybe not sentient yet, but that there is life somewhere else.
User avatar #312 to #176 - tisjunkisdamnfunny (06/23/2013) [-]
you are playing at many whatif's there my friend
#115 to #32 - anon (06/23/2013) [-]
User avatar #346 to #32 - infineks (06/23/2013) [-]
I think there's absolutely no way other forms of life don't exist, but I also think there's almost no way they would have visited us, yet alone know of our existence due to how large the universe is.
#539 to #346 - bandoslootshare (06/23/2013) [-]
oh they have invaded us, they live among us, everywhere, as hot teenage japanese girls aparently
User avatar #555 to #539 - infineks (06/23/2013) [-]
420 illuminati
User avatar #43 to #32 - srskate (06/22/2013) [-]
Look, i don't doubt it, but we don't know it exists, either, and there are legitimate scientific theories as to why. One cannot just automatically assume things and have it be science.
User avatar #50 to #43 - killerliquid (06/22/2013) [-]
“Two possibilities exist: either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.”― Arthur C. Clarke

#211 to #50 - toastersburnthings (06/23/2013) [-]
Here, have this.
Here, have this.
#463 to #211 - assondrugs (06/23/2013) [-]
what was this from i forgot, it was either a movie or a game.
#467 to #463 - anon (06/23/2013) [-]
The new X-COM
User avatar #529 to #467 - assondrugs (06/23/2013) [-]
thank you citizen
User avatar #95 to #50 - thewatchout (06/22/2013) [-]
That was the first thing that came to my mind
#51 to #43 - lucariopwnz (06/22/2013) [-]
if space really is infinite as most scientists believe then personally i feel safe assuming that life has developed elsewhere.  I mean so many things had to fall perfectly into place for life to form on our planet, no one can argue that.  But even if it takes millions of millions of tries, it is likely it happened on some other distant planet even if its far as hell away simply because attempts can always be made...   
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if space really is infinite as most scientists believe then personally i feel safe assuming that life has developed elsewhere. I mean so many things had to fall perfectly into place for life to form on our planet, no one can argue that. But even if it takes millions of millions of tries, it is likely it happened on some other distant planet even if its far as hell away simply because attempts can always be made...

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User avatar #155 to #51 - Dap (06/23/2013) [-]
This gif is freaking sweet.
User avatar #328 to #51 - germed (06/23/2013) [-]
Please don't represent your thoughts as "most scientists"

Just because the Universe is big doesn't make it infinite, The observable Universe is about 14 Gigaparsecs (3.3 billion lightyears) Whereas the unobservable Universe could be up to 45 billion lightyears by now. Also this picture has almost 3,000 Objects in it not 10,000.

Do more research before you take such wild claims please.
#343 to #328 - anon (06/23/2013) [-]
If you're pointing out wrong "facts" im pretty sure the HDF exposure was over 10 days, not 4 months... if you wanted to call OP out on that as well
User avatar #497 to #328 - mistercookie (06/23/2013) [-]
Actually, it is generally accepted that the universe is infinite within the directional dimensions, but not infinite in the time dimension. Also, the observable universe is about 93 Billion light years across.

#62 to #60 - lucariopwnz (06/22/2013) [-]
fair enough... I meant to mention the time aspect but was having a hard time forming what I wanted to say and left it out. That i think is probably the most likely reason why their wouldn't be life else where. Sure there may have been in the past or could be in the future but getting them to overlap chronologically with us is indeed a longshot. Anyway we are likely never going to know if there is or isn't in our lifetime so the whole point is kind of moot... unless of course some alien ship finds us in which case they are so much more advanced than we are that we are pretty done well ****** .
User avatar #68 to #62 - srskate (06/22/2013) [-]
Really, if alien life finds us and wants to interact, I'd say it's impossible to guess how it ends.
They evolved completely separate, so I wouldn't be able to guess how they think.
User avatar #89 to #68 - snowshark (06/22/2013) [-]
True, but misleading.

They may have evolved separately from us but the fact that visiting aliens would have the ability to not only travel considerable distances through space which alone would require massive technological advances but to also be able to find us when we are but one of many planets in the goldilocks zone around the countless stars in the Milky Way tells a couple of very important factors.

For one, it shows their ability to cooperate. The ability to source the materials required to build something as complex as a spacecraft indicates a level of coordination and cooperation that has thus far only been seen in humanity. We can safely assume from that that any aliens that visit us would likely be social creatures.

There are numerous other factors that go into this kind of thinking but the simple act of (against innumerable odds) evolving to the point both mentally and sociologically that they would both find us and put the effort into subsequently visiting us would indicate numerous factors that would need to be similar to our own mental states.

Yes, it's good to assume that they would think differently to us, because the chances are they will, but we don't see any other of Earth's animals coordinating for advanced tool-based tasks, exploring science or even creating advanced languages, all of which are necessary for the development of a society, let alone a spacecraft.

If they managed to find us, they would have to be similar to us in an awful lot of ways. Not identical, maybe not even close, but we would share a lot in common, especially for two species that grew independently of one another in (theoretically) different environmental conditions.

(Besides, given the amount of time it takes for light to travel the idea of aliens finding us when our cities have only been visible from space for the past 100 years any aliens that find us on purpose would need to be seriously smart to search via a different means to simple light.)
User avatar #92 to #89 - srskate (06/22/2013) [-]
Are bees considered social? i seriously don't know
They could be like bees, with a hive mind.

This all does follow convergent evolution, I agree, but the factor we cannot readily assume is whether they are warlike (and spaceships ended up being a "bigger stick") or peaceful (space because science) or mixed like us (space because **** the Russians).

random after though, what if they evolved without eyes, or with eyes that see different EM than us.
User avatar #103 to #92 - snowshark (06/22/2013) [-]
Also, it's safe to say that our sensory organs will be different to theirs. Senses evolved to keep us alive, essentially. Eyes to perceive our environment (and binocular vision to judge distance), taste and smell to sense healthy/unhealthy foods, hearing to better perceive our environment, thermoception to tell when we are in danger of death from heat, balance to keep us on our feet (balance so good it allowed us to develop more manoeuvrable bi-pedal movement, allowing for the eventual evolution of opposable thumbs) and many more.

If we do find other species alive in the cosmos. Species that in spite of time, distance, overwhelming odds on every level of evolution, the random dangers of meteorites and other cosmic events... if there is ANY alien life as intelligent as us, we will have found the most improbable event in recorded history. (Previously it was our own charmed existence, but it happening twice and those two sides meeting is a massive coincidence beyond imagination.)

I have no doubt that alien life exists. But I thoroughly believe that if we are not the most advanced life-forms currently alive in our universe then the likelihood is we will not be meeting our betters for several thousand, if not hundred-thousand years.

On the bright side, it's very possible that we will be the catalyst that sparks intelligent life in the galaxy. We are already elevating apes by teaching them sign-language and are working to both better understand our less-evolved brethren but also to bring them higher in the game of life.
User avatar #96 to #92 - snowshark (06/22/2013) [-]
Bees are incredibly social animals. But they lack most of the other important factors such as scientific exploration (which leads to the changing and developing of technology) or advanced language (which is necessary to both understand and communicate scientific exploration).

Wolves are social. They work in packs. Ravens are smart, they come up with interesting ways to get food, but they aren't social. It's about getting all of the necessary convergent factors together.

And we can pretty safely assume that they would be a mix of peaceful and warlike. We're smart because we are predators. We need to be smart to out-think our food and coordinate in packs. That, plus the opposable thumb, led to the use of tools which led to further growth of the human mind which, in conjunction to our social nature led to the development of more forms of communication (language) which further increased our intelligence and our tools got more advanced and we started producing things to help us survive (clothing, shelter, farming) which then led to free time... which led to thinking.

Thinking then led to art and philosophy and science and you get the idea. Herbivores aren't smart for the most part. They need to be able to out-run or out-manouver their enemies. There are some smart herbivores like Elephants but the truth is, the harder it is to get what you need to survive, the smarter you need to be. That intelligence mixed with other factors to make who we are today. Most animals are content with survival, but when humans began making survival easy (as seen in Egypt 5000 years ago where farming was so easy along the nile that they could just throw seeds about without having to plant them or till the soil) they found more and more uses for their creativity, curiosity and social nature.

Yes, we won't be the same, but there's little chance we'll be too different.

(Unless that species was elevated by another species, cutting out the natural evolution as seen with the Krogan.)
User avatar #101 to #96 - srskate (06/22/2013) [-]
They also need to be meat eaters because the excess of fat allows for bigger brains, as happened with us.

It is quite interesting to wonder how life could realistically play out with all of these constraints.

Could we have reptilian life, but more carnivorous and with thumbs. Imagine the inventions they'd make to deal with being cold-blooded.

Could we have aquatic life? Dolphins are intelligent and can communicate, they just lack the ability to make tools and such. They even have free time. Could aquatic life develop thumbs or other ways to manipulate and build?

I wonder what alternatives there are to thumbs.

another afterthought, crows do congregate I thought. They form murders.
User avatar #110 to #101 - snowshark (06/22/2013) [-]
Crows congregate into murders, and they communicate too. Crows remember the faces of hostile humans and warn other crows. But they do not work together to get their food nor do they have the gateway to using tools like thumbs.

Speaking of thumbs, we already know of a manipulative alternative. The trunk/tentacle. It allows for the gripping and manipulation of items, though it is less effective than the finger + thumb + wrist setup that primates have.

You're not right about the meat, though. They would just need a diet that develops a lot of excess fat which may not necessarily come solely from animals on other worlds. There may be other life-forms besides animals and plants and fungi (and others) that we see on Earth. Just as we have many variety of life-forms that differ in our cellular makeup, so would likely be true of aliens.

Reptiles are something that developed because of the conditions of their environments. Whilst it is possible there might be reptiles out in the universe it's just as likely that there would be many other kinds of life out there that didn't evolve here on earth.

Yes, there could be aquatic life. We see them with tool-manipulating appendages already like tentacles. Had dolphins evolved tentacles we may just have seen dolphins developing along a similar route to us.
User avatar #114 to #110 - srskate (06/23/2013) [-]
I thought of tentacles, but then I also thought that nothing too complex can be made with tentacles.

Maybe meat eating isn't a requirement, but I'd say it would be likely, just because i would wager than any animal that can eat too much plant matter would eat enough and not much more.
User avatar #125 to #114 - snowshark (06/23/2013) [-]
You misunderstand. Animals and Plants are just different cellular makeups creating different forms of life. What I argue is that those cellular makeups are not the only setups in the universe. When you consider how different the two cell-structures are you begin to realise that there can be an awful lot of variation in how cells are built.

I do not argue that herbivores could have a high-fat diet. I argue that there is more to life than Herbivore/Carnivore/Omnivore because there may just be more than Animal/Plant.
User avatar #132 to #125 - srskate (06/23/2013) [-]
Hmm, very true
User avatar #386 to #92 - abstract (06/23/2013) [-]
"Space because **** the Russians"

I lel'd
#374 to #89 - zahidlol (06/23/2013) [-]
The only thing I worry about friendly extraterrestrial beings is that either they or we have a virus that is fatal to the other. I think that some disease like the Black Death could have been brought to earth by an asteroid coming from a chunk of another life sustaining planet crashing to earth but the organic material survived.
User avatar #495 to #374 - snowshark (06/23/2013) [-]
That is not only possible but it is very, very likely. However there are also a number of very important factors to take into account with that.

For one: Lifeforms on other planets may have a different cellular makeup to animals on Earth, meaning it is possible that our diseases may not even be able to affect them and vice-versa.

Two: No advanced, alien race would be stupid enough to go to a new world without ensuring the environment wasn't about to kill them and vice-versa. (At least we can only hope so...)

Three: Meteors burn up at such a rate that anything on them as delicate as microbial life would be decimated. Those lifeforms would have to be able to survive the vacuum of space with no food and the heat of re-entry which scales well past 1000ºc.

(Fun Fact: They're only called asteroids in space. When they're falling through a planet's atmosphere they're meteors and what's left of them when they land is called a meteorite.)

As such the concept of meteors bringing disease is implausible to the nth degree, however a good scientist wouldn't completely discount your theory without being certain so I'll admit, at this point, it may be possible. The alien thing is far more likely but given how often in science-fiction we see people going through decontamination and quarantine and the like I think it's safe to say NASA would take the same precautions.
User avatar #222 to #89 - tisjunkisdamnfunny (06/23/2013) [-]
if this social and advanced race existed, it would not take them long to figure out they do not want to contact us seeing our animalistic and violent nature
User avatar #232 to #222 - snowshark (06/23/2013) [-]
I've covered this already to a degree but not focussing on this particular point so I'll elaborate.

For an alien race to be advanced enough to find us in the first place they will need to have either been elevated by an already extant species (as happened with the Krogan in Mass Effect) or they would need to be very similar to us in terms of evolution. Not identical but to have many of the same elements we have.

It is likely that, should an alien race even have the capacity to find us when our cities have only been visible from space because of electrical lights for the past 100 years or so (meaning we'd only just be visible to a planet that's 100 light years away from us) then they'd need to be advanced enough to view our world through different kinds of technology to what we use currently.

If they would develop technology that is so powerful it can extend that sensory reach out across the stars and to us then that implies a level of curiosity. Now, wether they would come and attempt to devastate our existence, either enslaving us (which is unlikely as robots would be easier to acquire, house, run and so on), destroying us (which is plausible) or attempting to make contact with us (which is the most likely scenario, even if they are warlike, as it's better to know your enemy before you kill them) is still up in the air but the chances are that if they had the capacity to reach Earth in any way, shape or form, they would come here.
User avatar #310 to #232 - tisjunkisdamnfunny (06/23/2013) [-]
i like what your saying snowshark
how do you feel about sumer, their creation and the possibility we were put here from a superior species who has left at the beginning; maybe even visiting to help our race progress ?
User avatar #491 to #310 - snowshark (06/23/2013) [-]
I find it... somewhat implausible. Whilst by many accounts it would seem to make sense, by many others it is flawed. I think the word 'put' is the big issue. It would be much more likely that we were elevated through genetic tampering (hence why there is a missing link as opposed to us just appearing out of nowhere) which then led to us now.

The concept is absolutely fascinating and holds a great deal of weight to it in terms of it's implication. I don't think it's as valid as us evolving naturally, though. The chances really are minute. That said, no matter how minute the chances, there's still a chance and no matter how small that chance is we may still be the result of it.

If that is the case then frankly the universe is in far better shape than most people give it credit for and there most likely is a grand plan for us.

This is all dependent on that theory being correct but given that we have no absolute truth to our evolution I find it as plausible as the other theories. A good scientific mind stays open to all the possibilities, however outrageous. Never taking the evidence at face-value but never discounting it for it's absurdity either.
User avatar #556 to #491 - tisjunkisdamnfunny (06/23/2013) [-]
Alright I got to ask, how in holy **** do you know all of this?
User avatar #564 to #556 - snowshark (06/24/2013) [-]
I aspire to make a living writing fantasy books. However, to create a world where the laws of physics differ from our own I must first have an understanding of the laws of physics. The same for psychology, sociology, history and many other subjects that go into making the world we live in today.

Because of the time and effort I put into understanding the world around us I have amassed a general understanding of cause and effect tempered by my (admittedly not complete) knowledge of the world and recorded history. I do not pretend that I know any of these things I've said because I'm smarter than other people or because I've studied specifically these subjects, rather the conversation is fundamentally tied to the nature of society and evolution, something that plays a big part in how I create my fantasy universe.

The parallels between this discussion and the concept of creating from scratch an alternate universe are numerous. I might end up being dead wrong and I'm ready for that conclusion, if it comes, but I stand by my understanding that in order for a species to achieve what we humans have, it would take a series of coincidences much as has happened in our own evolution.
User avatar #566 to #564 - tisjunkisdamnfunny (06/25/2013) [-]
well **** yes to all of that and please let me know when you finish your book i would love to give it a read some day
User avatar #567 to #566 - snowshark (06/25/2013) [-]
Aww. I appreciate it.
User avatar #216 to #62 - tisjunkisdamnfunny (06/23/2013) [-]
if given one life/civilization on another planet, there must be an infinite alike galaxies; ones beginning and destroyed through time
in my opinion, there is other life out there; they just choose not to bother our violent and animalistic race
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#266 to #60 - anon (06/23/2013) [-]
"...the chances of there being another race of intelligent and industrious living things are about the same as you winning the lottery every single day for the rest of your life and then dying on the morning of your 200th birthday after getting struck directly in the face by Doc Brown's time train."

******* lol
User avatar #456 to #51 - zaxzwim ONLINE (06/23/2013) [-]
i agree with you, i mean if you take into accound how ******* MASSIVE the currantly known universe is and think that it can/could be so, so, so so much bigger than what we can see than how can't you think that what happend on earth couldn't have happend anywhere else at any point of those last (known) 16.3 billion years (or so i can't remember the number
#446 to #51 - anon (06/23/2013) [-]
Space isn't infinite, and I doubt anyone who knows basic maths thinks so either. Very big, though.
User avatar #431 to #51 - ewowo (06/23/2013) [-]
Still, your argument argues the existence of 'life'. Which could be like, a space fungus growing somewhere on an asteroid really far away.

What about intelligent life?
#334 to #51 - anon (06/23/2013) [-]
Yes, it is a safe assumption. But it is still just that. An assumption.
#191 to #43 - anon (06/23/2013) [-]
with numbers that huge I think it's safe to say that it's essentially impossible that we're the only life in the universe (also a fairly arrogant idea if you ask me)
User avatar #192 to #191 - srskate (06/23/2013) [-]
I've already discussed this in depth

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this is the funny version
User avatar #452 to #43 - robxsandwich (06/23/2013) [-]
My thoughts are that if the universe is infinite, there has to be other life. If it never ends there is going to be something else because space just keeps going and going and going. We're just somewhere in the middle of everything.
User avatar #172 to #43 - rainbowrush (06/23/2013) [-]
It is extremely improbable that we are the only ones in the universe.
User avatar #180 to #172 - srskate (06/23/2013) [-]
or is it?

life is complex as **** , and depends on an excessive number of coincidences.
It's lucky enough that we exist, who is to say there is other intelligent life right now.
User avatar #181 to #180 - rainbowrush (06/23/2013) [-]
We just found two blue planets in our neighborhood, a couple of weeks ago. There are a lot of other planets with bout the same conditions we had/have. We've also found bacteria on some moon, I think
User avatar #190 to #181 - srskate (06/23/2013) [-]
water isn't the only necessary quantity, nor is just the right zone of habitation.

honestly, right now I don't feel like going in depth, so tl;dr : any life we do find would be basic as **** , and its unlikely we'd find it.
User avatar #194 to #190 - rainbowrush (06/23/2013) [-]
Water and zone isn't everything, I know. However, when we already see a lot of potential, it is promising. Most people don't know this, but the Universe is ****** humongous, like you don't even understand how big. Maybe even as big as your mother.
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User avatar #409 to #194 - cabbagemayhem (06/23/2013) [-]
Most people don't know this, but the odds against life spontaneously forming is even more humongous.
#332 - potatophucker (06/23/2013) [-]
"Saying there's no extraterrestrial life in space is like filling a cup with ocean water and saying whales don't exist."   
                                                  -Willem Dafoe   
Not really.
"Saying there's no extraterrestrial life in space is like filling a cup with ocean water and saying whales don't exist."
-Willem Dafoe

Not really.
#100 - MasterManiac (06/22/2013) [-]
It's posts like these that make me realise how small and insignificant we all are. There are billions of galaxies out there aside from our own, and the saddest thing is that the closest we'll ever get to exploring them is through photographs like this. Even with these photos, we are only seeing what the galaxies looked like 10 billion years ago. Hell, they could be long gone by now if you consider the theory of universal contraction, or they could be even more billions of miles away from us if we consider instead universal exapnsion. What is for certain is that we as a civilisation will never be able to explore the reaches of this universe, and experience the beautiful scenery at every single one of these stars, and maybe even interact with some alternate life forms. And all this exists within just our own universe, but we will never understand what lies outside its furthest reaches, where it expands to and how many more there are just like it. Kind of sad really.
User avatar #102 to #100 - hankhillofthe ONLINE (06/22/2013) [-]
That reminds me of this really good Zen Pencils comic of a Caitlin Moran quote.

#140 to #100 - anon (06/23/2013) [-]
So size means importance now? A morbidly obese man is of more value than you, automatically, regardless of intelligence, personality, looks, strength, and so on?
User avatar #145 to #100 - Bomard (06/23/2013) [-]
Yeah it kinda sucks... I just really wish in my life time, something extraordinary will happen... Like discovery of aliens or being able to communicate with another intelligent specie from another planet.. just SOMETHING you know? It sucks ):
User avatar #161 to #100 - jurto (06/23/2013) [-]
You just wait until teletransport strikes.
#215 to #100 - unikornking (06/23/2013) [-]
Reminds me of Haruhi
Reminds me of Haruhi
#256 to #100 - Logicaltightrope (06/23/2013) [-]
Don't worry.  Think of the Gliese system; it's 20 lightyears away and contains a planet, Gliese 581 g (or Zarmina), which can probably support life.     
And much, much more.   
We don't even need faster than light travel to do it, making it possible.  Due to spacial contraction, if we can get going fast enough, the distance will not be nearly as far.  Sounds trippy, but it's true - you could go hundreds of lightyears as observed from Earth in just a lifetime (don't forget cryogenics, either) considering spacial contraction.  The only catch is that when you come back to Earth, thousands of years will have passed here, so it's one or the other - Earth or the Universe.   
When I'm bored, I imagine that - exploring the universe for thousands of (my) years and hundreds of thousands of lightyears, kept going by cryogenic sleep.  Just going from star to star, seeing what exists out there, a lone traveler in a too-big universe.
Don't worry. Think of the Gliese system; it's 20 lightyears away and contains a planet, Gliese 581 g (or Zarmina), which can probably support life.


And much, much more.

We don't even need faster than light travel to do it, making it possible. Due to spacial contraction, if we can get going fast enough, the distance will not be nearly as far. Sounds trippy, but it's true - you could go hundreds of lightyears as observed from Earth in just a lifetime (don't forget cryogenics, either) considering spacial contraction. The only catch is that when you come back to Earth, thousands of years will have passed here, so it's one or the other - Earth or the Universe.

When I'm bored, I imagine that - exploring the universe for thousands of (my) years and hundreds of thousands of lightyears, kept going by cryogenic sleep. Just going from star to star, seeing what exists out there, a lone traveler in a too-big universe.
#289 to #100 - aznmafia (06/23/2013) [-]
Don't feel sad, just watch this.
User avatar #171 to #100 - certifiedidiot (06/23/2013) [-]
What I feel sad about in this context is the possibility of humanity actually traveling among the stars, but that it might only happen in a couple of hundreds or thousands of years, something that you and I will never experience, we'll all be long gone.

I kinda fear what the future might bring for our species, considering what have happened in the past 200 years and if we might live to be 70-80 years old.. I really have my concerns for our future and the direction humanity will take.

I really hope that humanity plans to be kind on itself, but it seems unlikely.
User avatar #439 to #171 - newforomador (06/23/2013) [-]
Considering what humans have done to other countries they discovered (and this was with primitive technologies) imagine what might happen when we discover another inhabited world with whatever weapons we have for that time.
User avatar #28 - davisdamen (06/22/2013) [-]
ok, i'm hoping there's some science people looking at this
could someone tell me what exactly a light-year is?
i assume it's exactly what it sounds like, the distance light would travel in 1 year
is that right or am i an uneducated **** ?
#83 to #28 - anon (06/22/2013) [-]
#471 to #28 - anon (06/23/2013) [-]
9460800000000000 metres
#131 to #28 - anon (06/23/2013) [-]
And for just a lil bit more info, an estimated measurement of a lightyear would be 10 trillion kilometres (6 trillion miles).
And yeah, this is if its traveling through a vacuum. If not, then it depends on where and what its going through.
#104 to #28 - westpphi (06/22/2013) [-]
and a little hint for you, i think none of us who replied are "science people", but we all are interested in stuff like that. and the internet, espc. youtube, is a great source for knowlege about these things. channels like vsauce and minutephysics are just awesome. they explain everything in a way everyone can understand. just take a look at them, theres so much crazy **** going on in science, i cant believe so many people are not fascinated by this.

btw, i know how this sounds, but from your question i assume you dont have a large background in this field. no offense
User avatar #280 to #104 - davisdamen (06/23/2013) [-]
thanks for the info. bud
and none taken
i know a little bit, but i would never be mistaken for an expert haha
#29 to #28 - anon (06/22/2013) [-]
You are indeed correct.
User avatar #255 to #28 - sebthebrony (06/23/2013) [-]
Since space is so big, they use light years to measure distance.
A light year is how much light travels in one year
The speed of light is 299 792 458 m / s
kepler 22b is located at around 600 light years from earth
Do the math D:
User avatar #420 to #255 - miniwilliam (06/23/2013) [-]
9460730472580800 (I calculated a year as 365,25 days, since that is how long it realistically is. If we take it as 365, then the number is 9454254955488000).
#424 to #420 - sebthebrony (06/23/2013) [-]
I can't even read that number
I can't even read that number
User avatar #426 to #424 - miniwilliam (06/23/2013) [-]
Nine quadrillion, four hundred and sixty thousand trillion, seven hundred and thirty billion fourhundred seventy two million, five houndred and eighty thousand, eight hundred.


Nine quadrillion, four hundred and fifty four trillion, two hundred and fifty four billion, nine hundred fifty five million, fourhundred and eighty eight thousand.
User avatar #428 to #426 - sebthebrony (06/23/2013) [-]
You're a smart little **** , you know that?
User avatar #429 to #428 - miniwilliam (06/23/2013) [-]
I am a dumbass.
User avatar #430 to #429 - sebthebrony (06/23/2013) [-]
User avatar #427 to #426 - miniwilliam (06/23/2013) [-]
Four hundred and sixty trillion*
User avatar #30 to #28 - wizardfist (06/22/2013) [-]
you're right
#31 to #28 - westpphi (06/22/2013) [-]
turns out, you're not as uneducated as you might think. it's exactly that. since the speed of light is constant at all times its a very precice measuring method.
#464 to #31 - anon (06/23/2013) [-]
speed of light is not constant, denser medium = slower light. speed of light in a vacuum is 3*10^8 m/s. refractive index of glass is 1.52 therefore 3*10^8 / 1.52 =1.97*10^8 m/s which is the speed of light in glass. a lightyear refers to the speed of light in a vacuum, wave mechanics bitches
#74 to #31 - anon (06/22/2013) [-]
The speed of light is not constant at all times. For the most part in a vacuum it is constant. But it can slow down around a black hole, humans have slowed it down to about 38 mph, and i believe they found something recently that even speeds it up a little.
User avatar #84 to #74 - fappywheels (06/22/2013) [-]
I think that all mass-less objects travel at c, the speed of light. But when travelling in a medium, there are more collisions with particles, which change the direction of light and makes it appear to be slowing down, when it's just travelling at c but taking a longer route.
#146 to #74 - anon (06/23/2013) [-]
Black holes don't slow the speed of light, rather, they warp the space around themselves so that it is 'longer' and thus appears slower when in fact the speed of light is still the same.
#20 - antigravitycake (06/22/2013) [-]
shame theres no way of instantly teleporting. we are going to die all alone as a species unless someone finds the mass relay in our system/
User avatar #57 to #20 - vunderbahr (06/22/2013) [-]
QUICK! To the warp drive!
User avatar #71 to #20 - xtwinblade (06/22/2013) [-]
quantum tunneling every flying atom and particle with a calculation to the next atoms decaying and the new atoms you would instantly recieve could make it happen
#108 to #20 - nyawgga ONLINE (06/22/2013) [-]
i can be teh pers on who finds tehm
#520 to #20 - anon (06/23/2013) [-]
Time to make Stargates and Hyperdrvies/Stardrives
User avatar #93 to #20 - snowshark (06/22/2013) [-]
I'll put it to you like this.

Long-distance traveling through space won't be done in straight lines as is traditionally thought. Traveling from point A to point B via a straight line would take too long.

Rather the a theory is to take point A and point B and put them right next to each other. Like taking the opposite corners of a piece of paper and just folding them next to each other. Wormholes, essentially.

That is just one out of many other theories and as we understand more and more about the sub-atomic nature of the universe itself the more theories seem to rear their heads.
#270 to #93 - anon (06/23/2013) [-]
If such a thing is even possible, would it mean you could move to say, pluto in an instant?
If yes, that gets rid of the whole time factor entirely, it'd take as long to travel to pluto, as it would some galaxy trillions of light years away, right?
User avatar #279 to #270 - snowshark (06/23/2013) [-]
That's the theory. However this is really accurate technology. It's not for exploration, it's for taking things from a definite point A to a definite point B.

I'll spare you the really detailed essay and just sum it up like this:

This is a theory and little more. We know so precious little about how the physics of this would work that it may be completely implausible. But suffice it to say, if you can open two holes in space three metres apart you can do it three-trillion light years apart too. Space is connected like that... we think.
User avatar #21 to #20 - threadz (06/22/2013) [-]
Wormholes are totally a thing that happens. And who says warp drive can't be faster than 10 times the speed of light?
User avatar #24 to #21 - antigravitycake (06/22/2013) [-]
i hope somebody is working on this
User avatar #25 to #24 - threadz (06/22/2013) [-]
NASA was until Congress cut the down it's budget, which is why the US Space program now operates out of Russia
User avatar #41 to #25 - rototornjik (06/22/2013) [-]
>which is why the US Space program now operates out of Russia

User avatar #44 to #41 - threadz (06/22/2013) [-]
To get stuff up to the Space station to keep those skyentists on board alive and stuff NASA has to work with the Russian space program and use Russian rockets to get the food, water, oxygen, and science toys to the mostly American skyentists still on the International Space Station.
Congress essentially decided that keeping those people alive and warp drive research isn't all that important
User avatar #46 to #44 - threadz (06/22/2013) [-]
I didn't think that first sentence all the way through but you get the idea
User avatar #47 to #46 - rototornjik (06/22/2013) [-]
thx, your clarification is appreciated
User avatar #73 to #47 - threadz (06/22/2013) [-]
Any time
#275 to #21 - hollyisthebest (06/23/2013) [-]
Because they can't. Nothing is faster than the speed of light.
This picture represents how a warpdrive works. It increases gravity to the front of the ship, and decreases gravity behind the ship. And gravity is not instant, it travels at the speed of light.
Educate yourself, ************ .
Wormholes are totally a thing, thou.
Wormholes work as a shortcut. Imagine a 2 dimensional grid, the fastest way to point B from point A is a line. Now, imagine that 2 dimensional grid bending, like a piece of paper. If we can somehow tear a hole in the paper, and move to point b, then that gives us an alternate route. We still can't go faster than light speed. But the distance between the two points decrease.
User avatar #326 to #275 - threadz (06/23/2013) [-]
Dude. Stop. you're embarrassing yourself.
User avatar #330 to #326 - hollyisthebest (06/23/2013) [-]
Dude, do you even general relativity?
Einstein theorized that nothing can travel faster than the speed of light. Nothing. Not even gravity.
#347 to #330 - anon (06/23/2013) [-]
and Einstein was wrong on a few accounts. There are some exceptions
Quantum entanglement and electron orbitals are the simpler ones that can be easily learnt.
User avatar #541 to #330 - threadz (06/23/2013) [-]
Also, Einstein wasn't right about everything he said. He firmly believed that quantum events didn't have a probabilistic outcome, but just weren't understood completely. He spent many years trying to disprove these theories which to this day hold true. In fact, quantum computing is a thing which has been tested enough that denying probabilistic events is like denying the existence of gravity. Some people will still do it, but it's primarily because they are ignorant.
User avatar #540 to #330 - threadz (06/23/2013) [-]
No, he theorized that light moves the same speed in all reference frames. Which is not the same thing.

Anyway, although you cannot move faster than light, you can distort space-time so that that there is a shorter distance between two points, allowing you to transverse the space in less time. And that's how warp drive works. Sort of.

Minutephysics explains it in one of his video I think.
User avatar #543 to #540 - hollyisthebest (06/23/2013) [-]
I'm getting a bit tired of arguing. So, the next time you send me a reply, I won't bother looking at it.

Yes, warp drives can distort space. That's what they do. Just take a look at the picture I showed up. That's basically how they work. They don't change the distance between two points. That's what wormholes are. Wormholes change the distance between two points allowing for a quicker route.

And he did theorize that nothing travels faster than speed of light. In either general or special relativity (I forget which), it stated that the closer and closer you reach light speed, the heavier and heavier you get, making it impossible to travel faster than the speed of light. Also, yes, Einstein did have some bad ideas. But special and general relativity is still taught in universities around the world. It is accepted into the scientific community.
User avatar #545 to #543 - threadz (06/23/2013) [-]
Well NASA started researching it a while ago so stating that warpdrive can't happen is basically saying NASA doesn't know what the **** they are doing.
That argument is rather flawed but would you want to live in a universe without the possibility of Warpdrive? I sure as hell wouldn't. So don't say it can't happen until it has been disproved experimentally
#323 to #275 - anon (06/23/2013) [-]
You're dumb.

Nothing can travel through space faster than light.

You can travel outside of space as fast as you want.

Empty space actually contains fields of particles that make up our reality.
Educate yourself
#350 to #323 - anon (06/23/2013) [-]
The idea of wormholes is that there are more than 3 dimensions of space.
look up string theory which suggests that there are 10 dimensions of space and 1 of time.

Travelling through a wormhole would be travelling through space in 4 or greater dimensions of space. This doesn't mean travelling faster than light, but taking a shortcut allowing you to reach your destination quicker.
User avatar #444 to #275 - redstag (06/23/2013) [-]
User avatar #475 to #21 - paludan (06/23/2013) [-]
Nothing can exceed the speed of life, read a book and educate yourself..
User avatar #542 to #475 - threadz (06/23/2013) [-]
Warp drive doesn't move you faster than the speed of light. It compressed the space-time in front of a craft so that it may move across the same distance at the same speed in less time.
#278 - UNIQUELOL (06/23/2013) [-]
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#85 - beddeb (06/22/2013) [-]
and out of all that giant 			*******		 space, I'm still here, on FunnyJunk, without a girlfriend, or a future. LIIFFEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
and out of all that giant ******* space, I'm still here, on FunnyJunk, without a girlfriend, or a future. LIIFFEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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User avatar #387 to #342 - abstract (06/23/2013) [-]
I wish this was high enough quality to be a desktop background
#267 - filipnocd (06/23/2013) [-]
Too bad the universe can't compare to the size of your mom.
#554 to #267 - zaxzwim ONLINE (06/23/2013) [-]
you know what the universe cant compare to
you know what the universe cant compare to
#94 - nsfwlolzor (06/22/2013) [-]
Yet we're alive. And speculating about other life forms somewhere else. God damn life is so weird sometimes.
User avatar #477 to #94 - imofcnotharveydent (06/23/2013) [-]
that's deep, damn deep.
#148 - xsap (06/23/2013) [-]
in other news, i finally managed to put a rocket in the earths orbit in kerbal space program

god this game is hard
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#492 to #148 - tragono **User deleted account** (06/23/2013) [-]
The game WAS hard.
When I landed on the Mun in 0.13, the sense of achievement was overwhelming. Nowadays, you just have some excitement from the first landing and then it's just monotonously easy.
It doesn't require any mathematics at all. Being an astronomer does not automatically make you better at a game that just loosely follows the general idea of space.
Scott Manley (Why don't you google that) actually got the head of the Sentinel project to play the game. A real astronaut, and he failed because it's not rocket science. It's a game about rocket science.
Actual astronaut-hood requires years of training. Saying that Kerbal Space Program is hard is just pathetic.
I'm not saying that the new updates aren't good. They're all adding new elements to the game, greatly expanding all capabilities.

However, it deeply disgruntles me when people say that KSP is a hard game. Landing on Eeloo with a spaceplane is hard. Landing on the Mun is a cakewalk.
Maybe I should post this in the hating board, but this has bothered me for ages.

Quote related, it's not what you must be to play the game.
"I bet someone has done it. Some horribly deformed person who is simply flawless online" -Olmesy
I shall end by telling you read the first 2 words of this.
User avatar #553 to #492 - olmesy (06/23/2013) [-]
It's good to see that quote is still relevant.
I agree with you by the way
#218 to #148 - xsap (06/23/2013) [-]
aw shiit ***** , i got an orbit around the moon... gonna try to land
User avatar #224 to #218 - xsap (06/23/2013) [-]
i crashed
User avatar #152 to #148 - gerometurtle (06/23/2013) [-]
holy **** i cant even get the rocket off the landing pad
#156 to #152 - xsap (06/23/2013) [-]
this game requires so much math and precision its not even funny...   
I watch this guy on youtube play it and hes a real life astronomer and astrophysicist and he struggles sometimes
this game requires so much math and precision its not even funny...

I watch this guy on youtube play it and hes a real life astronomer and astrophysicist and he struggles sometimes
User avatar #169 to #156 - jlew (06/23/2013) [-]
Scott Manly?
User avatar #175 to #169 - xsap (06/23/2013) [-]
User avatar #178 to #175 - jlew (06/23/2013) [-]
He's so fun to watch.
User avatar #182 to #178 - xsap (06/23/2013) [-]
but hes miss leading, he does so many cool **** that after watching i go "i can do that!" and then i fail and get mad and quit
#487 - greyshirtguy (06/23/2013) [-]
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User avatar #490 to #487 - vaultsparten (06/23/2013) [-]
What about Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann?
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#358 - cazabrow ONLINE (06/23/2013) [-]
But I'm not angry?
User avatar #364 to #358 - theblondefetus (06/23/2013) [-]
Doesn't matter, your getting a ******* snickers bar

Deal with it
#313 - buckequalsdollar (06/23/2013) [-]
I've seen this before, still awesome even now, but when you think about it, it took 13 billion years for us to be able to see that light. So who knows if those Galaxies are even still in existence? I like to think that their are other planets with species like us, but all their women aren't ****** in the head. What a wonderful world that would be.
Pic semi related
User avatar #262 to #235 - thepandaking (06/23/2013) [-]
oh god, that fits so beautifully in this post, I love you.
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