No Pointing Fingers. . the )(Box__ One nice idea But, not pointin’ any fingers, it coulda been done better.. NSA's face when i cover my Kinect
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the )(Box__ One nice idea
But, not pointin’ any fingers, it
coulda been done better.
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#208 - epicpahtater **User deleted account** (06/23/2013) [-]
mfw watching the console wars as a pc gamer
mfw watching the console wars as a pc gamer
#203 - nephritho (06/23/2013) [-]
Both consoles are screwing us over.
User avatar #210 to #203 - sparkyoneonetwo (06/23/2013) [-]
Just wondering what is Sony doing??

User avatar #213 to #210 - theshadowed (06/23/2013) [-]
Making Playstation Plus compulsory
User avatar #231 to #213 - shishiko **User deleted account** (06/23/2013) [-]
In all honesty, I'd rather subscribe to PS+ because you get free AAA games. For example, Battlefield 3 and Saints Row 3 is available on there right now for nothing. Not to mention that it's cheaper than Xbox Live.

It's a business decision. And it's only for people who want to play online. Many other people will just ignore it if they want.
User avatar #233 to #231 - theshadowed (06/23/2013) [-]
I thought it was the same price as live? And yes, It is better than Live. But the point is that making it compulsory has a degree of ******* in it
User avatar #237 to #233 - shishiko **User deleted account** (06/23/2013) [-]
Yes, it's cheaper. For a year, it's $60 for Xbox and $50 for PS.

And they thought it was a good system because of the amazingly good ratings it got. like %95 costumer satisfaction. I barely know anything that %95 of people have no problems with it.

It's Sony's choice, so lets see how it stands when the console comes out.
#229 to #213 - anonymous (06/23/2013) [-]
Making a push to get more people to use PS plus isn't necessarily all bad. By paying for PS plus they will have money to update features of the console, patch and change around menus as well as other things to keep things running smoothly. Also it's not compulsory, you will be able to play the free-to-play games (such as PS4's port of Planetside 2 and Blacklight Retribution) without any charge.

Though coming from the current system on the PS3 to that format on the PS4, I can see why people have an issue with it.
User avatar #230 to #229 - theshadowed (06/23/2013) [-]
Thank you for clearing that up anon
#232 to #230 - anonymous (06/23/2013) [-]
It's fine. I thought it be best to explain the reasoning behind their decision as you were claiming they were "screwing us over".
User avatar #236 to #232 - theshadowed (06/23/2013) [-]
I never claimed that, that was the other guy. I just think its a degree of *******
#238 to #236 - anonymous (06/23/2013) [-]
Oh, my bad.

Yeah I can kind of agree with you there but I do believe that paying for PS plus with be beneficial for the console and it's users too.
User avatar #222 to #213 - glasgowrangers ONLINE (06/23/2013) [-]
it's not
User avatar #227 to #222 - theshadowed (06/23/2013) [-]
Mandatory for online play
User avatar #220 to #213 - dafuckisthishit (06/23/2013) [-]
only compulsory i believe for certain online games such as cod multiplayer, as far as i am aware it is unneeded for elderscrolls mmo and single player games still screwing us over but not as bad as it could be
User avatar #214 to #213 - sparkyoneonetwo (06/23/2013) [-]
ah, I have never heard that before. not saying you are wrong by me not hearing that before. all I mean is it's the first time I've heard this.

User avatar #216 to #214 - theshadowed (06/23/2013) [-]
GOD HOW DARE YOU NOT KNOW THAT ASSHAT. Its fine I only heard it the other day. They think they can get away with it because Microsoft can
User avatar #217 to #216 - sparkyoneonetwo (06/23/2013) [-]
I'm sorry don't hurt me ;_;

I really enjoy PlayStation Pluse but mandatory is dumb as ****
#196 - monkee (06/23/2013) [-]
I'm not a 						********					 gamer, I play a few games that appeal to me (usually an open-world sandbox style game). As I'm a broke-ass student anyhow, I plan to wait a year till the price drops and I can see some of the games for both consoles. I switched from Sony to Microsoft with the 360, now I approach with an unbiased mind again.
I'm not a ******** gamer, I play a few games that appeal to me (usually an open-world sandbox style game). As I'm a broke-ass student anyhow, I plan to wait a year till the price drops and I can see some of the games for both consoles. I switched from Sony to Microsoft with the 360, now I approach with an unbiased mind again.
User avatar #207 to #196 - trojandetected (06/23/2013) [-]
same thats why i got a wii u good value overall
#180 - anonymous (06/23/2013) [-]
i kinda wanted to see something unique with the new consoles . though i didnt agree with Microsoft's terms for the new console , at least it was different , just not in a good way . but know instead of thinking a better way to become unique and better than sony , they just made there new console exactly the same as the old one
#175 - anonymous (06/23/2013) [-]
They changed everything on the xbox one you can now play offline and that signing in **** no longer applies it's basically a 360 again with better graphics and gameplay if you guys did hear they saw the responses on it and are now re-working on it in other words no need to beat the dead horse the xbox one is good again and i will be buying it.
p.s price is low on it now its about 300 dollars.
User avatar #198 to #175 - pwnfrnzy (06/23/2013) [-]
Kinect still mandatory.
Yeah. . . No.
User avatar #206 to #198 - miklthepikl (06/23/2013) [-]
*mandatory to be connected, but can be turned off in settings

no longer a problem
User avatar #252 to #206 - pwnfrnzy (06/24/2013) [-]
It still listens for the "Xbox on/off" commands, it's never turned off.
User avatar #254 to #252 - huntergriff ONLINE (06/24/2013) [-]
...and? it's not like it's watching you ********** in front of the damn thing...
User avatar #255 to #254 - pwnfrnzy (06/24/2013) [-]
How can you be so sure?
User avatar #256 to #255 - huntergriff ONLINE (06/24/2013) [-]
Because no ****** wants to sit there watching potentially hundreds of people jacking it into a camera...while looking at porn on IE for xbox.

Because a ******* of people on xbox play games that have something to do with the words "Bomb", "Gun", "weapon", "kill", the list goes on...anything they say could be mistaken for a potential terrorist threat...For instance, say i'm playing assault on halo 3 right? Alright, most likely i would let my team know that i'm going to "arm the bomb". That right there can be mistaken for a terrorist plot/threat. you see where i'm going with this? it would be kind of like a witch hunt.

Also, if we're going to be technical, any pc webcam you've ever owned could potentially be used to record you.
User avatar #257 to #256 - pwnfrnzy (06/24/2013) [-]
Didn't have to rage over it man.
My issue is the reason it still has to be connected even though it's turned off in the settings. I never liked Kinect for the 360, nor will I change my mind with the One if something possesses me to buy it. It still listens for commands, thus it's still on, recording, listening, directing ads, and maybe charging extra if a room mate walks in while I'm watching a movie.
I've also preferred a headset anyways, at least that can be disconnected and not potentially listening to private conversations over personal matters. I still see the Kinect as a privacy concern because it's always on.
And yes, of course a webcam can be used to record someone, I do remember a story of school-issued computers taking pictures of students via webcam without them knowing using a RAT program.
User avatar #258 to #257 - huntergriff ONLINE (06/24/2013) [-]
>It still listens for commands, thus it's still on, recording, listening, directing ads, and maybe charging extra if a room mate walks in while I'm watching a movie.

it's only listening for "Xbox on/off" not "Xbox [insert random action other than on or off here]"

it's not recording anything, like i said, no one wants to sit there watching footage of some guy yanking it over xbox live.

It's definitely not charging an extra fee for a movie if someone walks in, that was one of the many, many rumors about the new xbox.

and if it seems like i'm raging, i'm not, i'm just very very very ******* tired.
User avatar #259 to #258 - pwnfrnzy (06/24/2013) [-]
They can say it's only listening for those 2 commands, you can't tell if it's listening for anything else, recording anything falls under the same answer.
And I do believe I read somewhere that it did charge a fee, but could have been false information, "Gaming Journalism" these days, eh?
Well, some sleep would help with that I suppose, I believe it would be best to end our debate so you can get yourself some rest.
User avatar #261 to #259 - miklthepikl (06/24/2013) [-]
you do know that the whole 'charging extra if someone else walks in' was a ****** joke right?
User avatar #260 to #259 - huntergriff ONLINE (06/24/2013) [-]
indeed.
#188 to #175 - anonymous (06/23/2013) [-]
for now. if they still really wanted to do it, they could implement it. think, just wait a year or two till a lot of people have them and just put it in a update.
User avatar #179 to #175 - huntergriff ONLINE (06/23/2013) [-]
sauce on price being 300 dollars now.
User avatar #186 to #179 - manofparody (06/23/2013) [-]
Yea, I never heard anything about $300 so I'm calling BS on that one.
User avatar #182 to #179 - yusay (06/23/2013) [-]
It's not.
#234 to #182 - fourchanisbetterqc (06/23/2013) [-]
It isn't ******* **** and ******* shot? Go burn in Hell, you disgusting piece of demon **** .
User avatar #242 to #234 - yusay (06/23/2013) [-]
Ye.
#189 to #182 - huntergriff ONLINE (06/23/2013) [-]
...goddamn it anon...
#174 - wartroll (06/23/2013) [-]
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User avatar #172 - noket (06/23/2013) [-]
anyway they changed the DRM after the very negative audience's response.. so... can we stop with these posts now or...??
#167 - dumbandyoung (06/23/2013) [-]
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#166 - meringueluka (06/23/2013) [-]
mfw xbox one.
but seriously this topic has been done to the ground. time to move on
User avatar #176 to #166 - fuzzyballs (06/23/2013) [-]
it doesn't actually apply anymore, but okay
#162 - falconxmard (06/23/2013) [-]
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User avatar #160 - stuartbewbzz (06/23/2013) [-]
Now that Microsoft have got rid of DRM and the supposedly DRM-requiring features the Xbox One is basically the 360 with better hardware.

Don't be an idiot; go Sony.
User avatar #209 to #160 - epicpahtater **User deleted account** (06/23/2013) [-]
the xbox one and the ps4 both have the exact same spect, exept for the ram. so really it's about what software for the console and what controller you like better.
User avatar #184 to #160 - yusay (06/23/2013) [-]
Why go Sony if they're the same thing now?
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User avatar #247 to #205 - yusay (06/23/2013) [-]
First, I'm not buying either. This has been coming from someone who views the two consoles as equal and doesn't want to even spend the money on them.

Second, Sony would have done the exact same push MS did if public opinion favored them. Their push was good, but it was worded very badly and it caused people to freak out and scream for the old, which honestly, was worse.
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#253 to #251 - yusay (06/24/2013) [-]
Last of Us was something I was really looking forward to. I was actually miffed to find out it was PS3 exclusive.
User avatar #187 to #184 - stuartbewbzz (06/23/2013) [-]
Cheaper, less chance of being ****** over in the future and the hardware is a lot better. There's 3 reasons off the top of my head haha
#211 to #187 - epicpahtater **User deleted account** (06/23/2013) [-]
the hardware is the exect same with the exeption of the ram, of which the xbox has less, but faster and the playstation has more, but slower ram.
User avatar #212 to #211 - stuartbewbzz (06/23/2013) [-]
What the **** are you talking about? In no way is DDR3 RAM faster than GDDR5... The highest spec gaming PC's use GDDR5.
User avatar #215 to #212 - epicpahtater **User deleted account** (06/23/2013) [-]
there is no pc that uses gddr5, only the videocards, the actual sticks are always ddr3 or older
User avatar #218 to #215 - stuartbewbzz (06/23/2013) [-]
Okay, I'm assuming you're 12 and fresh out of pre-school because no adult is that ******* retarded.

G = Specifically for graphics cards, not video cards you filthy casual.
5 = 5x the data rate.
3 = 3x the data rate.

The PS4 uses superior graphics card specific RAM because of it's architecture.
User avatar #221 to #218 - epicpahtater **User deleted account** (06/23/2013) [-]
first off, no i'm not a twelve year old, and no, i'm not fresh out of preschool, expecially since i'm not a f*cking american with an idiotic schooling system.
second off, i am not a ps gamer nor an xbox gamer, i just sit comtably with my gaming pc, which features free online play, no drm **** and better specs than any console whatsoever.
third off all, having both the cpu and gpu use the same (video card based) ram will make the overall process slower, and will make it less effective.
meanwhile the xbox one has got 32 mb cache of high speed sram on the gpu itself, speeding it up, so really, there's no big difference in ram performance, even though the ps3 uses gddr5 which is faster the xbox has a 32 mb cache which about evens the speed out. so stop bitching or buy a gaming pc.
User avatar #223 to #221 - stuartbewbzz (06/23/2013) [-]
I have a gaming PC. I just don't like seeing people get ****** over by Microsoft by buying an inferior console at a higher price.
User avatar #225 to #223 - epicpahtater **User deleted account** (06/23/2013) [-]
yes it is more expensive, but a hundred bucks over a nuber of years more isn't that much if you consider that xbox games generally are just a tad cheaper, it's just about what controller and what software you prefer,
User avatar #226 to #225 - stuartbewbzz (06/23/2013) [-]
I'd rather pay a lower price on console and subscription with better hardware. Plus Microsoft will only end up ******* their users over again.

Controller wise, I find there's no difference. And software wise, you don't have to be a genius to figure out an OS. Especially the XB1's which is Windows 8 dumbed down.
User avatar #235 to #226 - epicpahtater **User deleted account** (06/23/2013) [-]
actually, there's a lot of difference bewteen the two controllers, the xbox controller is larger, and uses different keyswitches whilst also having different funtions than the ps counterpart. i personaly prefer the xbox controller, but it's just a matter of personal preference. and yes, microsoft will probaply find ways to screw people in the future , but so will sony, and so has apple been doing for years, just like any other company. becouse they're selfish and want to make as much money as they can. miltinationals don't look for what you want, they look for with what they can please the big audience whilst still making as much money as possible.
User avatar #219 to #218 - stuartbewbzz (06/23/2013) [-]
Sorry, not data rate. Version* I always get that mixed up.
User avatar #192 to #187 - yusay (06/23/2013) [-]
It is cheaper...By one hundred bucks. That's not much cheaper when you're buying the console once, and you'll have it for the next five years.

The hardware is not a lot better. It's marginally better at best. And in the end it's how the developers make use of the technology.

I'm sorry, but why would you say that there's less of a chance for a fiasco when PSN was down for two months?
User avatar #197 to #192 - stuartbewbzz (06/23/2013) [-]
Yeah the initial price is cheaper but so is the online service and I'm sure Microsoft will have various other things they'll make you pay for? Remember the 360's cloud sharing service that gave you less than 1GB of storage extra?

Marginally?! In terms of the actual CPU they're roughly the same as they both have an 8-core AMD Jag. But the GPU for the PS4 is phenomenally more powerful. The XB1 has a AMD Radeon based GPU with 12 compute unit whereas the PS4 has a similar GPU with 18 units, working out at about 1152 cores of power.

Memory-wise, the PS4 also takes the cake by a long shot. It's packing 8GB GDDR5 RAM which is way better in comparison to the XB1's 8GB DDR3. The memory bandwidth is roughly three times as much for the PS4.

Theoretical processing power for the XB1 is about 1.2TFLOPS whereas the PS4 packs around 1.8/9TFLOPS.

And the PSN being down was due to hacking. There's nothing they could do about it except try resolve the issues. Microsoft will genuinely **** you over in the near future.. Wanna know how I know they will? Because they already tried to at the release.



User avatar #163 to #160 - ragingbrony (06/23/2013) [-]
Or I'll just wait to see what games come out on them over the next year and see which I would enjoy more based on that.
User avatar #168 to #163 - stuartbewbzz (06/23/2013) [-]
I don't think there will be many exclusives for this generation of console. Or at least not as many due to developers seeing bigger profits in appealing to both PS and XB users.

You'll still get the obvious ones like Killzone for PS and Halo for XB (even though that franchise is largely dead now).
User avatar #170 to #168 - ragingbrony (06/23/2013) [-]
WiiU it is!!!
User avatar #181 to #170 - stuartbewbzz (06/23/2013) [-]
When Nintendo release a Pokemon MMORPG... then we'll talk.
User avatar #183 to #181 - ragingbrony (06/23/2013) [-]
I'll probably just get it for the next Super Smash brothers
User avatar #185 to #183 - stuartbewbzz (06/23/2013) [-]
I've never been able to get into games like that. No idea why though haha
#157 - anonymous (06/23/2013) [-]
what movie is this?

for pirating purposes...
#153 - ludislavonac (06/23/2013) [-]
Honestly, this is getting annoying. I don't give a 						****					 about xbox, stop japping about it already, just buy a different console or a pc damn it.
Honestly, this is getting annoying. I don't give a **** about xbox, stop japping about it already, just buy a different console or a pc damn it.
User avatar #152 - plainarcane **User deleted account** (06/23/2013) [-]
fangers*
User avatar #143 - fatkidsarecool ONLINE (06/23/2013) [-]
For all you fanboys out there bitching about the features that we're losing: Gamers didn't kill what made the xbox one "special" Microsoft did. Did you see how easily microsoft took away DRM and all it's digitial features; MICROSOFT are the ones that are butthurt because they couldn't have it their way. Since Microsoft got all butthurt they took away these "cool features" they can easily bring these features back without the DRM, but they won't because they're a bunch of greedy money sucking vampires. So don't blame the people who stood up to actually OWN their games; blame Microsoft for being bitches.
User avatar #199 to #143 - pwnfrnzy (06/23/2013) [-]
I see I'm not the only one watching Angry Joe's Reviews.
But there are probably many more that don't pretty much quote him word for word too.
User avatar #144 to #143 - yusay (06/23/2013) [-]
...What?

Could you explain how the family sharing plan can still be done now?
User avatar #147 to #144 - fatkidsarecool ONLINE (06/23/2013) [-]
The Family Sharing infrastructure doesn't rely on DRM. Microsoft, if they really wanted to can still make this a feature of the Xbox One; however, since Microsoft is butthurt about how people reacted to these new policies of DRM, Microsoft took away the family sharing feature in exchange for the removal of DRM. (It's like a kid that offers to play, but takes away their shiniest toy)

So Family Sharing won't be able to be done; unless Microsoft changes their minds once again and implements it as a feature of the console.
User avatar #148 to #147 - yusay (06/23/2013) [-]
You do realise that the family sharing plan is impossible when the disc is still mandatory, right? You do realise this? If not, and you still don't get it, I'm not sure what's going on in your head.
User avatar #150 to #148 - fatkidsarecool ONLINE (06/23/2013) [-]
There will be two ways to buying Xbox One games in the future. On the day of launch there will be some at retail stores that you can pick up like you're probably used to. There will also be a sell that microsoft offers for the same amount digitally. The Family Sharing Policy can still work for the game and DLC that you purchase digitally; but microsoft took it away soooo guess not. (We could have had the best of both worlds)
User avatar #151 to #150 - yusay (06/23/2013) [-]
Okay, I see what you're trying to say.
#141 - ShockedNazi (06/23/2013) [-]
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User avatar #139 - TittyCinnamon ONLINE (06/23/2013) [-]
recently read my latest issue of game informer and in a poll of which they asked 9,000 people, 5.5k of them said they were buying the xbox one. just sayin. i'm sorry but xbox one has my vote on halo 5 alone. plus kh3 is multi-platform
#138 - anonymous (06/23/2013) [-]
Rage incoming... This is dumb. The policies could have been good for the Xbox one. allowed a lot of new things. but no a lot of people it didn't even really effect bitched about it and now they are changing it and these people are bitching about what they bitched about being changed. makes absolutely no since and im so tired of seeing this **** on funnyjunk it is literally getting old. move on. rage done.
User avatar #178 to #138 - HeartOfTheDL ONLINE (06/23/2013) [-]
I personally think MS could have pitched the idea better from the start. They could have done a lot more to correct it other then just taking the features out. They really don't need the 24 hour check in they could have had you have to be online to register the physical game and then you can play offline or even have an option to go offline like steam.
They took what steam does and then made it a barrier.
Another thing they could have done better was not have such confusing statements and then saying if you don't like it we have a product called the 360.
You've got to admit that they were shooting themselves in the foot to begin with and rather then cleaning up the whole mess they opted out and did a 180. They still could have won the players over if they had a serious talk and then release a statement that will clear everything up.
Also they still could have kept the awesome features when they did the 180. The family sharing thing still could have been a thing but they just pouted.
Even without all those features I'm still considering buying it. I'm on neither side atm though sony has been more appealing.
User avatar #190 to #178 - yusay (06/23/2013) [-]
Their only problem was pitching and the check in. Clearing it up later wouldn't have helped. Once people are set in stone to hate something they won't listen at all.
User avatar #193 to #190 - HeartOfTheDL ONLINE (06/23/2013) [-]
True and untrue. I'm sure if they had done the after thoughts a lot better and cleared it up after the conference rather then be a complete dick about it they could have kept those features. Heck even saying you have to only initially check in to register the game would have put out some of the fire. It could have gone way better if they tried. But they caved in rather then fix the issues.
#194 to #193 - yusay (06/23/2013) [-]
When I say clearing it up later I mean later as in after now, not after their conference. When the internet hate machine gets revved up it doesn't listen to anything.
When I say clearing it up later I mean later as in after now, not after their conference. When the internet hate machine gets revved up it doesn't listen to anything.
User avatar #195 to #194 - HeartOfTheDL ONLINE (06/23/2013) [-]
I thought you meant after the conference but yeah now would have been a little too late. At least the rumour that the family plan was the people in that list only gets to play a demo was false. That peaked my interest and I thought it would have been a terribly stupid idea for it to be true.
#134 - Yojimbo (06/23/2013) [-]
I'm just glad they made it so the Kinect Eye wouldn't always be on.

Pic semi related, what it would have been like
#130 - patriotpenguin (06/23/2013) [-]
microsoft after e3
microsoft after e3
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