Effect of Feminism 9. .. Remember when feminsism was about actual equality rather than hating men? Pepperidge Farm remembers
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#1 - kaoknight **User deleted account** has deleted their comment [-]
#113 to #1 - anon (06/21/2013) [-]
It's though diferent with boys, boys always seeked sex from the moment they figured out masturbation. Of course I have no facts on this or surveys, but feel free to gice your own experience I'm sure we're going to make some kind of a conclusion.

My childhood from around 12 years was marked my male peers acting like horny rabbits, they even jerked off during the class in the back of the classroom.
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#163 to #1 - Blackyy **User deleted account** has deleted their comment [-]
#313 to #1 - anon (06/21/2013) [-]
thats because there are hundreds of thousands more male pedophillia then female pedophilia. thee posts are so stupid
User avatar #317 to #313 - xtrem (06/21/2013) [-]
how would you know ? Media ? FYI media doesn't post female cases like they do to male cases am not only talking about pedophilia but everything else
#381 to #1 - anon (06/21/2013) [-]
like that lady who let her bf or whatever he was have sex with her 14 month old and killed it...without getting blamed. It's always the guy that is blamed SMH
#44 to #1 - anon (06/20/2013) [-]
All women are innocent until they wear a miniskirt or start expressing an opinion... then she's asking for it.
#3 to #1 - anon (06/20/2013) [-]
We ARE perverts. Just to varying degrees. IE. The whole "Tits or GTFO" thing. Every one on the internet has said it at least once or will do so at one point. I can't really say anything on the behalf of women. Though i like to think that most femmyies are just angry 16yr olds in big girl pants.
User avatar #50 to #3 - VLG (06/20/2013) [-]
Speak for yourself.
#326 to #3 - anon (06/21/2013) [-]
I've never used that phrase, never intend to, and WILL never use it in the context it was intended or similar context. YOUR assertion is sexist. As a biological male of the third-gender variety, your statement is insulting on multiple levels. It asserts that I simply CANNOT accept women without sexualizing them first while simultaneously trivializing a group that has done SERIOUS damage to our social infrastructure and, therefore, enabling them b y dismissing their presence as harmless.
#99 to #1 - mrloki (06/21/2013) [-]
**mrloki rolled a random image posted in comment #132 at Did this make you smile? ** true, when I was 13 I used to be sexually assaulted by my friends mom, who at the time was around 33, never felt worse in my life ... you can't imagine the horror of being slowly pressed to the ground by big boobs while getting fondled
User avatar #116 to #99 - mcderper (06/21/2013) [-]
Said no straight man ever
#201 to #116 - anon (06/21/2013) [-]
What if she was ugly and weighed 400 pounds?
#133 to #116 - anon (06/21/2013) [-]
I would have to disagree with you. Just because the vast majority is perfectly alright with any sexual/sensual contact with a woman even unwanted attention doesn't mean every straight male would. Some have intimacy issues, others have dominance issues and there a various others that I don't care to spend the time pointing out.

I'm sure you are aware that your statement is at least partially incorrect but I've posted this on the slim chance you actually ARE unaware.

Or you're a kid.
User avatar #135 to #133 - mcderper (06/21/2013) [-]
I was just trying to make a joke, guess you take things too seriously, or I failed
#232 to #135 - anon (06/21/2013) [-]
There's a lot of things you can make jokes about. But when you're joke kinda proves the point of the topic (That female pedophillia isnt seen as bad as male ones) and you can't see what you did wrong, you might wanna sit down and re-evaluate your ethics.
#5 to #1 - anon (06/20/2013) [-]
I agree that female pedophilia should be seen as just as disgusting and disturbing. Anyone who hurts or takes advantage of a child, be the abuser male or female, should be punished equally - This comment comes from a true feminist looking for equality, not a feminazi!!!
#142 to #5 - anon (06/21/2013) [-]
It's pretty sad though that you have to tell everyone you're not a feminazi after stating you're a feminist just so they'll listen to you.
User avatar #175 to #142 - imnotkickthecat (06/21/2013) [-]
the bad eggs kinda ruined the whole thing for them.
#180 to #5 - baconfattie ONLINE (06/21/2013) [-]
You should call yourself an "Equalitarian" or something like that
#206 to #180 - anon (06/21/2013) [-]
There's pretty contrasting views on specific topics between egalitarians and feminists so I think if she thinks she's a feminist, she's a feminist.
User avatar #342 to #206 - danniegurl ONLINE (06/21/2013) [-]
read the word in quotes again.
#369 to #5 - nyeeeh (06/21/2013) [-]
Log in so I can thumb you up
#79 to #1 - anon (06/21/2013) [-]
guys and girls are perverts... girls just hide it better... and yes pedophilia is sick, BUT ever since puberty i have always wanted to bang every hot teacher ive had call me sick if you like
#143 to #79 - anon (06/21/2013) [-]
And now that girls are becoming more openly indulging in their interests (slash, shipping, etc.) you guys treat them like idiots or perverts for liking similar things but being girls.
User avatar #275 to #79 - iridium (06/21/2013) [-]
There's a difference between lust and actually doing it though. There's no problem with lusting for children if you keep it to yourself and dont act on it.
User avatar #199 to #79 - flambenobunaga (06/21/2013) [-]
Oh, god Ms. Kaufman, I'll do anything for an A!... wait, what?
#18 - Hashenmier (06/20/2013) [-]
Remember when feminsism was about actual equality rather than hating men?



Pepperidge Farm remembers
#25 to #18 - teranin ONLINE (06/20/2013) [-]
I remember too. I was alive back then.
#218 to #25 - cshp (06/21/2013) [-]
S...she died? Are you talking about the manga or did she die in the anime and I missed it? Or did I just misunderstand your comment?
User avatar #220 to #218 - teranin ONLINE (06/21/2013) [-]
I'm saying that I'm old enough to remember when feminism was about equality, the pic is unrelated.
User avatar #221 to #220 - cshp (06/21/2013) [-]
Oh.
User avatar #114 to #25 - linktheherooftime (06/21/2013) [-]
What's that image from?
#115 to #114 - teranin ONLINE (06/21/2013) [-]
Shingeki No Kyojin
User avatar #117 to #115 - linktheherooftime (06/21/2013) [-]
Thank you kind sir.
User avatar #109 to #18 - Schadenfreude (06/21/2013) [-]
In educated circles, feminism = equality. At least, while studying philosophy at university, all the "feminist" philosophers I read wrote on equal rights for gender, race, economic status... all sorts of things.
User avatar #140 - psychonaut (06/21/2013) [-]
We should just have human rights.
#138 - bloodofthedragon (06/21/2013) [-]
I don't hate feminists but the first and second wave feminists rights movement seem better than the third wave that haven't done much for women except look bad. I mean the original women's right advocates came together and got women's suffrage something actually really important. Now Feminazi's ruin their image.
#139 to #138 - eattherich (06/21/2013) [-]
Couldn't have said it better myself good chap.
Couldn't have said it better myself good chap.
#157 to #138 - Glitched (06/21/2013) [-]
You should see how people in my town treat me because of feminism. Two girls were fighting and i attempted to break it up. The one that was winning got mad at me for stopping them and punched me in the face. So i returned the favor. Knocked her out.
People are telling everyone i am a woman beater. I just say if she didn't want to get hit she should not have hit. Equal rights is what they want. She hit me as hard as she could. I did too , All charges were eventually dropped. Too many witnesses claimed i hit her in retaliation/self defense. She was never charged. I was charged with battery and did not even take the first swing. Pic Related.
#94 - captainwow (06/21/2013) [-]
Whenever I hear the phrase, "because I'm a girl", it translates in my head as "I'm part of an inferior gender that can't participate on a level playing field". No, I do NOT think that women are inferior, but when you tell me I need to be easy on you because you're a girl, that's the message you're sending.
#349 to #94 - anon (06/21/2013) [-]
GENDERS ARE UNIMPORTANT

WE SHALL EXTERMINATE ALL LIFE BUT US DAAALEKS

is what you sound like
#102 to #94 - blanketandpillow (06/21/2013) [-]
I think it depends on the context.

"Why don't you want to get in a fist fight with me?" "Because I'm a girl!" Is alright, but then there's other times when it's just annoying. "Why don't you want to have an argument with me?" "Because I'm a girl!"

I know those are crappy examples, but I'm tired and don't feel like coming up with betters ones.
User avatar #104 to #102 - captainwow (06/21/2013) [-]
It absolutely depends on the context, I should have specified.
#130 to #94 - SpicerHyx (06/21/2013) [-]
That's why I love getting into discussions or debates with people online when they aren't aware that I'm a female and then I mention it when it's over and they're just like   
   
well 			****
That's why I love getting into discussions or debates with people online when they aren't aware that I'm a female and then I mention it when it's over and they're just like

well ****
User avatar #380 - spyrothehedgehog (06/21/2013) [-]
I remember when I was a lot younger, this little girl (my age back then) punched me, because I was playing with a toy she wanted. I punched her back, because that's the logical thing to do when you're in pre-school. Some bitch teacher saw, and I **** YOU NOT, I was the only one who got in trouble. After I got a "time-out", the girl who punched me earlier came up to me and said that she was sorry for getting me in trouble. Teacher bitch was still there and told her that she didn't need to apologize because boys shouldn't hit girls. She basically told the teacher to (in much nicer words of course) **** off, and mind her own business. We became pretty good friends for a few years, but then I had to move and we lost contact with each other. Now, whenever I think of feminism, I think of her, and how she didn't want special treatment, and only wanted for us to be equal. No gender bias, no "we're better than you" attitude, just innocent, childish equality.
#87 - harryblazer (06/21/2013) [-]
>ina college class
>feminisim argument comes up
>ohboyherewego
>theres like 4 fat, ugly, self rightous cunts in the class that eat this **** up like everything else put in front of them
>even the other girls in the class hate them
> ******* teacher decides to start a debate
>40 minutes of "we get payed less" "we get called assholes unless we pay for dinner' ********
>one kids brings up how men have to sign up for the draft
>buddy of mine was in the army, uses the GI bill to pay for school
>was 82nd airborne, served with some Rangers
>bitches start saying how its unfair that women cant join elite units like the seals, and how they'd be better since they're lighter, faster, smarter, ect
>its clearly directed at him, so he asks 'why do you you want women to join special forces?"
>'so they can be the first women to show how.."
>"you're already wrong. see this topic has come up with some guys from my unit and in fact none of them have a problem with women in combat roles as long as they pull their weight. that means you have the same stadards as men and you actually want to be
there. you dont want women in special forces, you want to SAY that women are in special forces and thats as dangerous as it is ignorant"
#241 to #87 - anon (06/21/2013) [-]
wasn't there women who tried and they all failed or something like that
#276 to #241 - anon (06/21/2013) [-]
Two women attempted the Marine Infantry Officer school and dropped out like, two weeks in.
#169 to #87 - wagastragas ONLINE (06/21/2013) [-]
wait what? i dont think i get it, sorry if its obv i just cant brain tonight.
#394 to #169 - harryblazer (06/21/2013) [-]
there's a big differance between wanting to be in special forces and wanting to SAY you're in special forces. Plus, one of the major arguments is that if women join up into those units, then they have to meet the male standards. Of course, they were saying how thats 'unfair and inconsiderate" when its really a saftey precotion.
#192 to #169 - anon (06/21/2013) [-]
Basically what these woman want is to brag about how woman are in special forces and can do the things men can do, maybe even say how better they are when they'll be a good example of a woman in the forces.
#43 - anon (06/20/2013) [-]
You're right, there does need to be a men's rights movement. We need to change the social view that violence is manly and desirable, need to do something about the outrageous suicide rate for men, we need to do more about the stigma of men reporting their rapes, we need to do something about the high rape rates in the army and in prisons, and we need to make reproductive and parenting rights more of an equal thing for all parties involved without someone being **** on because society says that women are there to make and care for babies.

But these posts aren't ever going to focus on these issues because they're too busy being angry at any progress women's rights groups have made to actually want to go out and fix these issues.
User avatar #158 to #43 - srskate (06/21/2013) [-]
ever consider that the outstanding suicide rate for men is genetic?
#196 to #158 - anon (06/21/2013) [-]
No, because suicide is a reaction to stress and the feeling of being unable to get out of something. No one kills themselves (on purpose) when they're just fine and dandy and life's going good.
User avatar #198 to #196 - srskate (06/21/2013) [-]
Its also a possible result of chemical imbalance in the brain.
#207 to #198 - anon (06/21/2013) [-]
Considering the same can be said for erectile dysfunction, I don't think it's a good excuse to ignore the issue like we have been.
#213 to #198 - anon (06/21/2013) [-]
A chemical imbalance that does not affect only men.
User avatar #269 to #213 - srskate (06/21/2013) [-]
But what I am saying is that is is possible that men have a predisposition to the chemical imbalance due to their genetics.

Sex-linked traits do exist.
#147 to #43 - anon (06/21/2013) [-]
Thank you. I consider myself somewhat between an egalitarian and feminist view and really, seeing all these effects of feminism posts have been disheartening because it doesn't do anything for male rights other than attempt to **** over feminism as the prime cause of inequality. Feminists should include more male concerns but I can't agree with these ideas because they seek to push back the efforts of feminism rather than to push forward their own concerns and kind of combine both issues in a way where we don't go into an all-out gender war. I think feminists have to stop thinking that though we do live in a man's world, every type of man has it easy. Only the ideal man, masculine and dominant, is glorified and all the boys who don't live up to it get crushed. But this isn't because of feminism, what the other side thinks.
#181 - theblondefetus (06/21/2013) [-]
That was probably just a bad joke. I don't think anyone would seriously think a 9 year old could be accused of pedophilia. Either that or the person was just an idiot. In any case it's nothing to base a ******** men's rights movement

In short, the guy in the post is a whiny faggot
#338 to #181 - anon (06/21/2013) [-]
No... this is a real thing. When I was 7 in fact I got accused. There was a police officer at my house and everything. it got resolved by a cop who more or less took one look at me, confirmed his suspicions that the lady was an idiot with a question or two, and walked out. Guess who the accuser was? A feminazi mother that avoided letting her child play with little boys because "they're filthy little perverts" It's actually where I learned the meaning of that word: Being called one at seven years old. So... yeah.
#215 to #181 - anon (06/21/2013) [-]
It isn't. Always a joke.... My five year old cousin was kicked out of school for drawing a pic of a girl in his class holding his hand, and called her his "girlfriend" he was accused of sexually harassing her...
#182 - stlbecker (06/21/2013) [-]
Im no feminist but whoever uses the "she was asking for it" argument to justify rape is a ******* moron. But, the bitches who get drunk, have consensual sex, feel bad about it in the morning, and then cry rape are also ******* morons. But FJ seems to strongly believe that rape never actually happens, it is just the woman being slutty.
User avatar #256 to #182 - gorillabutts (06/21/2013) [-]
Now here's the thing about what you just said. Even though it is illegal, if a girl decided that she did not want to wear clothes in public for some ungodly reason, when she attracts looks and complains about it, you kinda have to think that she was asking for it. It is sorta the same thing. I'm not saying rape necessarily, but if you don't want to attract dirty looks and/or gropers, then you have to tone down from you bikini top and ridiculously short pants and put on some more suitable clothes. It's that simple.
#272 to #256 - anon (06/21/2013) [-]
But why do they need to tone it down? For God's sake, males are not naturally rapists, nor are they naturally meant to harass and grope girls without their consent. If they do, that's their problem, not the girl's. And she definitely isn't asking for it when she wears a tank and shorts. What she's asking is that you look but don't touch, or at the very least look but don't make a nasty remark about it, which honestly isn't that hard to do. Harassment is never okay or justified, regardless of what she's wearing. A woman could be walking around naked and you STILL wouldn't have the right to touch her without her consent.
#348 to #256 - anon (06/21/2013) [-]
That implies rape is about being sexually attracted to someone. It's really more of a control issue. Not to mention that line of thinking implies that all men are potential rapists if they see a woman's body uncovered, which I really like to think isn't true.
#293 to #182 - dawdawdwa (06/21/2013) [-]
Well, I think it is history.... But then again it is racist...

Must be fun being a cartoon character.
#254 to #182 - kaboomz (06/21/2013) [-]
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yep thats me funnyjunk
#183 to #182 - urbemarmis (06/21/2013) [-]
ive never heard the "she was asking for it" thing ever. whoever says that would be really stupid because that would essentially rule out any sort of lenience they would have with sentencing
#188 to #183 - stlbecker (06/21/2013) [-]
lurk FJ more and trust me, youll see it. People say that since the girl was acting flirty or dressing slutty that they are tempting the guy too much and if they didnt want sex they wouldnt act so flirty/slutty.
#190 to #188 - urbemarmis (06/21/2013) [-]
wow really? i do believe in the whole "she wears that for attention" thing, although it doesnt happen nearly as often as some guy say it does. i dont believe in the "she wanted sex so she was wearing it" bu;ll ****
#193 to #190 - stlbecker (06/21/2013) [-]
yeah i mean all women crave attention and some find that through provocative clothing, but clearly rape is not being asked for
#134 - SpicerHyx (06/21/2013) [-]
I need Men's Rights because I'm sick and tired of men getting blamed for 			****		 that they're not even a part of and expected to do things they may not want to do.    
I need Men's Rights because sometimes men can't afford to pay for the whole date and don't deserve to be made fun of or looked down upon because of it.   
I need Men's Rights because your genitalia shouldn't determine your rank in society or your responsibilities/expectations.   
I need Men's Rights because we're all human beings and shouldn't be blamed for anything or expected to do anything just based off the parts we were born with.
I need Men's Rights because I'm sick and tired of men getting blamed for **** that they're not even a part of and expected to do things they may not want to do.
I need Men's Rights because sometimes men can't afford to pay for the whole date and don't deserve to be made fun of or looked down upon because of it.
I need Men's Rights because your genitalia shouldn't determine your rank in society or your responsibilities/expectations.
I need Men's Rights because we're all human beings and shouldn't be blamed for anything or expected to do anything just based off the parts we were born with.
#60 - Iloldmypants (06/20/2013) [-]
This is the stupidest conflict ever. Too many feminists are ******* crazy and would probably support sterilising all males despite the obvious consequences. Yet most of the men who have taken it upon themselves to oppose feminism, aside from the guy in this content, do so for the pettiest of reasons ("This one girl didn't put out even though I was so nice to her, why do all women hate nice guys?") and their attempts to do so are extremely ineffective and represent the gender poorly.
Call me Switzerland. 'cos I'm staying away from this ********* .
User avatar #12 - gorillabutts (06/20/2013) [-]
Okay everyone, we are clearing this up right now. No buts, this is final.
Feminism is not necessary anymore. You have your equal rights, it's all there. Stop making a big deal of it.
I know what you girls are going to say. "But society treats me differently, we are sexualized, we still aren't treated fairly, etc, etc." Let me tell you one thing. Woman aren't the only ones sexualized. *Omg realy?* Yes. We all know how you women act over shirtless men. Oh wait... SEXUALIZATION BITCHES. If you want no more bikini models, then fine, you can consider your fancy abercrombie men gone as well.
Next. Rape. NOT EVERY GUY IS A RAPIST. Yes, there are rapists. Yes, there are pedophiles. There is nothing we can do to change that that we aren't already doing. No, we can't just say to men: "Stop being a pedophile/rapist Pete!" because that **** don't work.
And honestly, come on. Are you still bothered about women's rights? Honestly, pretty much everything is equal. I mean, in some companies (not talking about modelling, porn, etc.), it is easier to get a job if you are a female, as they have some kind of policy accepting females rather than men if they are tied between getting that job.
Now, if you bumbling modern age idiots stopped being selfish for like 2 minutes and considered stuff, there are people who need rights much more than you. *Yes, can you believe it?* gay rights. I know they are in progress, but there are many places where they still need enforcing. So get off your ass and help them, rather than complaining on twitter that a guy made a sandwich joke. Also, in pretty much all developed countries, women's rights are fine, but if you look at countries such as Afghanistan, women are still underdogged. Stop being assholes about why YOU need women's rights and think about THEIR women's rights.
Now feel free to call me a misogynist pig and further prove my statement that most of you feminists would rather care for your selves than do something for others.
#225 to #12 - anon (06/21/2013) [-]
The wrong is strong in this post.
User avatar #19 to #12 - rangerofthesea (06/20/2013) [-]
you misogynist pig...WE WOMEN HAVE A LOT TO Of-...*spurt* *giggle*....HAHA i cant do it...i just cant...hahaha
#148 to #12 - delphine (06/21/2013) [-]
"Feminism is not necessary anymore."

This woman's husband threw acid on her as a punishment after she refused to withdraw a divorce plea she submitted to a local court. Things like this are actually common in Middle Eastern countries. 1500 per year, and 80% of those attacks are on women.

...Maybe not in western culture as much. But women around the world are still treated as second class citizens. I teach at a school where 80% of the families are immigrants and refugees from Somalia and the Middle East and let me tell you, some of those young ladies have seen some **** .

Though I definitely agree that the whole "rape culture" has gone out of control and I do think men are being unfairly treated. I go for a walk and see a man walking towards me and my heart starts racing, when he's probably a perfectly nice person. It ain't right, an[white]d my irrational fear is a reflection on how society has portrayed men as "rapists". Unfair and untrue.

#167 to #148 - anon (06/21/2013) [-]
He already mentioned undeveloped countries as being a remaining issue and even pointed out they should support that instead of things that are not needed 'nor nearly as important, while things still need tweaking we're pretty damn even now-a days.
User avatar #171 to #167 - delphine (06/21/2013) [-]
oops, didn't see that part of his post til after i wrote that. my bad. But ya, I still agree with him. I've never felt like my rights have been tread upon. Some of the "uber feminists" just need something to complain about I guess... I think if people spent more time feeling grateful instead of feeling entitled, the world might be a little better.
User avatar #290 to #148 - undeadwill (06/21/2013) [-]
Its not necessary HERE anymore.

But other places need it.
#81 to #12 - anon (06/21/2013) [-]
The world needs more gorrillabutts
#16 to #12 - analcuntkiller (06/20/2013) [-]
THANK YOU!
#69 to #16 - anon (06/21/2013) [-]
'dat username....
#164 to #69 - analcuntkiller (06/21/2013) [-]
you like?
#144 to #12 - anon (06/21/2013) [-]
There's a major difference in sexualization when women are sexualized in every form of media, video games, magazines, etc., to a regular basis because it affects how women are treated when they want to wear a sexy dress or shorts and are told they're slutty because they're showing skin I guess? While men go topless sometimes and no one gives them **** about being attention-seeking. But yes, boys can be sexualized/fetishized too, especially in gay males.
The issue most feminists have with rape culture is just how most people don't understand consent (im not talking just getting drunk) but just in normal date situations. I didn't say dudes because everyone is quite uneducated in it. There can be more done to educate others in how to prevent frightening others late at night, to protect yourself, and to know when someone doesn't really want to have sex.
Just because women now have voting rights doesn't mean everything's equal. Just like how racism still occurs beyond getting civil rights
#174 to #144 - delphine (06/21/2013) [-]
And much of the sexualization of women in media (with the exception of porn) comes from other women. (see attached image)

And yes, consent is such a gray area. I lost my virginity in college when the guy I was seeing, who KNEW I wanted to wait, whom I trusted to get me home safe when I was drunk, took advantage of me while I was passed out. I wasn't even fully aware of what happened until the next morning. Was it rape? I don't know. I wasn't able to give consent or say "no"... but I didn't report it. I did, however, learn a tough lesson about trusting people, and it's why I never drink anymore.
#205 to #174 - anon (06/21/2013) [-]
Having sex with an unconscious person is most definitely rape. I'm really sorry to hear this happened to you.
#185 to #174 - anon (06/21/2013) [-]
I think that could be considered rape.
#224 to #174 - anon (06/21/2013) [-]
so you were drunk and then unconscious? please, I beg of you, report that, that is definitely rape, he should not get away with that (note I'm a male, just super super against Rape).

please report it...
#334 to #174 - anon (06/21/2013) [-]
"the sexiest sex to sex after sex"

also, not that it matters for you what i think, but im sorry there are cunts like that
#294 to #174 - anon (06/21/2013) [-]
If you're unconscious or can't control basic mobility (i.e. speech, movement etc.) then you can't give consent. That was rape.
#17 to #12 - jinapayne (06/20/2013) [-]
I hate feminists but i dont agree
Men and women still dont have equal rights
In other 3rd world countries women dont have equal rights
Here, abortion is still an issue
The name feminism is useless now, and male's rights is useless for a name too, feminism strictly means focusing on the problems of women. But some equal rights activists, true activists who look for equality for women and men are sometimes called feminists because they study feminist literature scripts and because women have had the worse side of things in the past
User avatar #20 to #17 - gorillabutts (06/20/2013) [-]
I mentioned the 3rd world country thing. Also, abortion is not an equality issue, as men have no reason to abort. Abortion is more a debate about whether a woman should be allowed to kill a baby, and such. Honestly, I don't want to start up an abortion debate as they go on forever.
#86 to #20 - tarquinist (06/21/2013) [-]
My only issue with abortion is that if a woman gets knocked up then she has the right to decide whether or not she wants to have the baby aborted while the guy legally has no input. If the woman doesn't want the kid but the guy does it will be aborted and if the woman wants the kid but the guy doesn't he has to have the kid anyway. I understand that it is her body but this isn't an equal situation.
User avatar #295 to #86 - srapture (06/21/2013) [-]
I agree with you there. The guy could be like 18, about to go into university, when some one-night stand that he got pregnant is like "Abortion is murder. I'm keeping it.". The guy would be obligated to look after that child that he didn't want, had had with a woman he didn't love, and wasn't ready for at that stage in his life, or be looked at with disgust by everyone for being a "deadbeat dad" when he had no say in becoming one.
#304 to #295 - anon (06/21/2013) [-]
An advertisement for safe sex if there ever was one.
#21 to #20 - jinapayne (06/20/2013) [-]
Yeah, me neither, so we'll just leave it at that
User avatar #39 to #17 - alanflindt (06/20/2013) [-]
When a girl doesn't want a kid - Pro choice.
When a guy doesn't want a kid - scumbag useless father.
#46 to #39 - anon (06/20/2013) [-]
When a guy doesn't want a kid - Oh, look, he doesn't want kids. What an upstanding man dedicating his time to his career.
User avatar #62 to #46 - alanflindt (06/20/2013) [-]
I wasn't saying that's what I actually believe, it's just generally how society perceives the two
User avatar #22 to #12 - toonlinktwentytwo (06/20/2013) [-]
actually there is still a signifigant wage gap between women and men in the US with women still being payed less
that is what we should be complaining about rather that an increasingly sexualized society (which affects everyone)
that and the fact that women in the middle east cant wear pants without going to jail or worse
#208 to #22 - anon (06/21/2013) [-]
Actually, you're spreading a myth. The wage gap is because women tend to work in fields that pay less then fields in which men are more likely to work. It's not that women are paid less for the same job. In 2008, 75% of doctors were men. In 2003, 92% of registered nurses were women. Doctors get paid more than nurses, thus men are making more than women.
#330 to #22 - anon (06/21/2013) [-]
Actually the wage gap is an unfortunately valid reality. It's the same reason old people don't have an easy time with insurance. the risk of maternity leave and a HOST of medical conditions that women are at higher risk for as well as considerations for things like gender rights scares (yes, FEMINISM is causing part of the problem here) mean that, on average, hiring a woman is more costly than hiring a man and therefore their wage reflects the risk for the company. I'm not saying it's a good thing. I'm saying it's sad, but legitimate.
#24 to #22 - drcow (06/20/2013) [-]
They get payed less because they are less likely to be long time workers
User avatar #26 to #24 - toonlinktwentytwo (06/20/2013) [-]
that isn't really an excuse to pay someone less for the same amount of work
#27 to #26 - drcow (06/20/2013) [-]
yes it is when they can do things like take leave for six months because they got knocked up and guess what people still have to pay them
#41 to #27 - pharoahthree (06/20/2013) [-]
That's why men need paternity leaves at these same companies. They can equal out the pay, men get to spend time with their child, and everyone should be happier for it.
#112 to #41 - drcow (06/21/2013) [-]
I agree with you my good sir
#101 to #27 - blanketandpillow (06/21/2013) [-]
So I'm being paid less because there's a chance that I might decide to have a child?
User avatar #322 to #101 - xtrem (06/21/2013) [-]
don't listen to the idiots above, the reason why someone get payed less is because their job position , and sometimes because according to society it is still "the man have to provide for his family" meaning if the family mother is not working the family should be able to support themselves depending on the faher's wage.
#336 to #322 - anon (06/21/2013) [-]
wow you're a little special arencha? not only is your assertion not true, it's nonsequitor. the issue with less pay is that women, in the same position as men, with the same skills, on average are payed less than men.
#361 to #336 - anon (06/21/2013) [-]
How exactly does this work? Most companies have a fixed salary for someone in a particular position. Paying different salaries for people in the same position would create a massive lawsuit. You are merely mindlessly repeating what "feminists" keep erroneously telling everyone.
#111 to #101 - drcow (06/21/2013) [-]
Yes also because youre less of a person
User avatar #168 to #111 - critality (06/21/2013) [-]
and a whore
User avatar #59 to #26 - monkeysniper (06/20/2013) [-]
Women can also still get allimony (yes i ****** up the spelling)
User avatar #96 to #59 - weinerdick ONLINE (06/21/2013) [-]
1 l
#374 to #26 - anon (06/21/2013) [-]
it is, first few months of work generally have less pay than afterwards.
User avatar #289 to #22 - undeadwill (06/21/2013) [-]
And that is based off the fact women aren't getting better jobs or don't have enough in the work force.
valid point.
Sand ******* will sand nig.
User avatar #373 to #22 - tealcanaan ONLINE (06/21/2013) [-]
www.consad.com/content/reports/Gender%20Wage%20Gap%20Final%20Report.pdf
Reasons with explanations on page six, you are using the raw wage gap not even the fact that most in the exact same carriers ant the same firm get paid equally.
#239 to #12 - mrcinnamon (06/21/2013) [-]
Fair enough about political equality but social quality is another thing. Sexism is still rampant - I'm not talking simply about the oversexualisation of women in the media. **** that. That kind of process only succeeds if women buy into it. Rather I mean the existence among certain groups of only conceiving of women as sexual... I'm trying to think of the word... providers? As in all they really exist for is to have sex with men or that they are somehow obliged to do so. But are also somehow resented for this and for not being chaste. People from the UK or Ireland can recognise this in the "Lad" Culture (dunno what the US equivalent is - Frat Boys?) where the guy will boast about how many women he's pulled and how his holiday is (to quote somebody I know) "going to be a massive gash fest". I'm sorry but I see this as a major problem reducing someone to a single biological function and then not giving them control over it. Similarly the theme of comments like "lol dumb slut" or "she got what she had coming to her dressed like that" is unhealthy and implies a strange possessiveness of women. As if they aren't allowed to live their own life how they see fit. I accept that this weird sexual policing affects men as well but as far as I can see that still comes under the remit of feminism which is still defined as a push for equality among the sexes. Taking the views of femininazis as someway representative of a larger movements is like discounting all patriots as being future IRA members.

tl;dr? Feminism is still useful as away of tackling our very strange and oppressive ideas about sexual norms.
#292 to #12 - anon (06/21/2013) [-]
Im an Australian female and sexism is far too excepted in this country. Im not talking about sandwich jokes, Im talking about mocking women in positions where men would've dominated back in the "good ol' days". In the work force (I dont know about other countries) women are still payed 60% from what men are typically paid, and a coloured woman would get even less than 60%...
Our current Prime Minister is a female at the moment, most jokes I hear about her (from my social circle) is because shes a female doing a mans job. Its like making fun of Obama just because hes black. Its ridiculous I know.
Another note; when there are victims of rape (whatever gender) from perps (whatever gender), the victims tend to be blamed FIRST before the rapist: 'She/he was asking for it because they were wearing this!', 'They were too flirty for their own good'. Our freedoms are oppressed by social "norms", but that is definetly not the sort of equality I want to see in our future.
Peace guys.
#307 to #12 - crazyoljew (06/21/2013) [-]
He deserves it
He deserves it
#13 to #12 - fellatio (06/20/2013) [-]
well said
User avatar #15 to #13 - gorillabutts (06/20/2013) [-]
Thank you
User avatar #156 to #12 - srskate (06/21/2013) [-]
Here is a simple test to see whether or not equality is or isn't an issue: Go to any youtube video with black people in it and look at the comments section. Do the same on a video with women in it. Finally, look at a video with only white men in it.

You already know what results you're gonna get.
#67 - doggstar (06/20/2013) [-]
**** bro i know that feel, i cant take my nieces or nephew down to the park without the other people there giving me weird looks as we play around....some people asked if they were mine too, bitch please i'm 21, i aint got no kids... they're my younger sisters
User avatar #120 to #67 - LightBright (06/21/2013) [-]
Saying your age doesnt matter because you said younger sister, she was probly 19 with her kids so you could be 21 and have kids just sayin
#127 to #120 - doggstar (06/21/2013) [-]
yeah, good point
#95 - rodneyabc (06/21/2013) [-]
I need men's rights for legitimate reasons like the one you just sated.

You need men's rights because you're an embittered **** who sees every legitimate problem we face as just a weapon to wave in the face of people actually interested in progression.

I'd love to be able to be nice to kids without being considered a pedo, I'd love to grow my hair long without every prick having an issue with it for some reason, I'd hate to get a chick pregnant by accident, but if that were to happen, I'd love to be able to not pay child support if I don't want anything to do with the mother or my child. I already love pop music, but I'd love it even more if people considered me less of a man for enjoying it.

But that's never going to happen because cunts like you can't ever champion those causes for their own sake. It's never about making things better for men, it's just about rubbing **** in feminists faces.
User avatar #122 to #95 - reginleif ONLINE (06/21/2013) [-]
I'm not an MRA, but this:

>You need men's rights because you're an embittered **** who sees every legitimate >problem we face as just a weapon to wave in the face of people actually interested in >progression

Sounds like a feminist more than an MRA..... think white women always bringing in third world issues like FGM into the mix as if that were something they suffered personally. (I call it "oppression points")

But yeah you may be right in that most MRA's probably won't accomplish **** , but I disagree it is because they don't want to.....I just think it's because they are powerless ***** who get laughed at at every turn.

#191 to #122 - anon (06/21/2013) [-]
I think it's because they'd rather put more effort into complaining about the problems rather than putting effort into solving them, kind of like a lot of facebook feminists. Ahoy, hypocrisy, as I sit here on my computer complaining about people not taking action while I take no action myself...
User avatar #333 to #95 - glasgowrangers (06/21/2013) [-]
It's your kid, you should pay for it
#397 to #333 - rodneyabc (06/21/2013) [-]
Never!
+11
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#141 to #76 - chowfredokins (06/21/2013) [-]
"it was my privilege"
#376 - helloyouarereadin (06/21/2013) [-]
I need feminism because I like to make jokes about it.
User avatar #49 - jaigurudevaom (06/20/2013) [-]
I'm a feminist, I don't hate men I just want women to be equal (in b4 "women have the same rights as men blah blah") we don't get paid the same amount for the same job, people still think that women can't work and have a successful career, but I want women to have the same prison sentences as men, I don't want women to be let off lightly because of her gender, I want people to realise that women can beat their partners and can be rapists, not just men. I want women to be treated with respect and not called a 'bitch' or a 'whore' for not wanting to date someone, BUT I never want to hear "she was asking for it" ever again.
#93 to #49 - xogerjr (06/21/2013) [-]
This is what you tell yourself, but deep down you're just like all the rest.
#247 to #49 - anon (06/21/2013) [-]
People seem to forget women are often shown as the victim or innocent archetype because of the traditional gender roles feminism is trying to rid the world of. Thank you for speaking your opinion on FJ, it lets sensible people feel like they're not alone.
#136 to #49 - birthdaybrony (06/21/2013) [-]
And women should just as soon be considered Bronies. There's no need for a separate term to describe female bronies, we're all just bronies. Also, female bronies deserve just as much attention from the media and online communities as men.
And women should just as soon be considered Bronies. There's no need for a separate term to describe female bronies, we're all just bronies. Also, female bronies deserve just as much attention from the media and online communities as men.
#195 to #136 - anon (06/21/2013) [-]
You seriously had to change the subject from feminism, to bronies...
Go to bed.
User avatar #393 to #195 - birthdaybrony (06/21/2013) [-]
I'm sorry. I just thought that because her profile pic is MLP she would like to hear my support of female bronies. I didn't mean to offend everyone. I simply want to clarify that this wasn't completely irrelevant seeing as how she is a brony. This is just another example of separate but equal treatment that I feel should be addressed. Again, I'm sorry. Take a thumb.
#177 to #49 - anon (06/21/2013) [-]
she was asking for it
#248 to #49 - anon (06/21/2013) [-]
**** you, moron.

I'm the only male employee at my job. And I get paid the lowest wage.


User avatar #57 to #49 - ishalltroll (06/20/2013) [-]
IMO less women being allowed into high-tier business positions is justified as they are always at risk for dropping out due to pregnancy or menstruation (every month).
#61 to #57 - anon (06/20/2013) [-]
And men risk ruining the image of their company because of a sex scandal.

See? Two can play the sexist generalization game.
User avatar #70 to #61 - vigilaredux (06/21/2013) [-]
it's not generalizing, all women menstruate and can get pregnant? it is a fact. Unless of course it's those violet eyed females. how is that sexist, even though you will never reply to this I just want you to know I ******* hate you.
#73 to #70 - miwauturu (06/21/2013) [-]
Violet eyes? Do you mean Alexandria's Genesis, because if so, wow you are a dumbass for believing that it's real.
User avatar #74 to #73 - vigilaredux (06/21/2013) [-]
that's the point... I couldn't in good conscience made an absolute statement like "all women..." i need to invest in sarcasm text
User avatar #65 to #61 - ishalltroll (06/20/2013) [-]
Menstruation is a guaranteed thing to happen to any women until she reaches the menopause. Your argument is invalid.
#66 to #65 - anon (06/20/2013) [-]
When the **** does menstruation actually get in the way of work, unless you're working at a baby making factory?
User avatar #378 to #66 - ishalltroll (06/21/2013) [-]
Cramps. I see women and girls at my school routinely staying away from it due to menstruational pains.
User avatar #265 to #65 - alexthebest ONLINE (06/21/2013) [-]
"Sorry sir, I can't come into work this week. No, I'm not sick. Just menstruating."
User avatar #64 to #49 - rynkar (06/20/2013) [-]
wasn't Obama's first bill the fair pay one? Where women and men are paid equally for the same job?
#77 to #49 - anon (06/21/2013) [-]
If a woman dressed like a slut gets black out drunk around strange men who do not care about what they think
THEY.WERE.ASKING.FOR.IT.
It's called personal responsibility, and slut whores who get a dick in them have none. That's why they are who they are.

User avatar #108 to #77 - drakevil (06/21/2013) [-]
By that logic, we all could rape your mother because, as can be seen, she give birth to a Son of a Bitch.
#126 to #108 - LtShinySides (06/21/2013) [-]
Do you by any chance have her address?
#319 to #77 - anon (06/21/2013) [-]
Okay I was reading through all the comments, and I thought I saw some rather unintelligent ones, but then I reached this one ... You win the grand price of the day mate.
I really REALLY hope that this isn't what you truly believe, because it scares me that someone can think that. NO ONE deserves to go through such a horrible, life-ruining, traumatic experience, no matter how they dress. It's equivalent of people saying "oh but 10 year olds are wearing short skirts and showing their bellies, I get confused, they are sending certain signals". NO! If the kid came up naked and yelled "take me!" you should only think "what a silly kid" and if a piss-drunk, naked, woman did the same you should think "she needs to get safely home and sleep it off". Let's get one thing straight, NO ONE IS EVER ASKING FOR IT. Neither men nor women.
Rant over, have a nice day.
#335 to #319 - anon (06/21/2013) [-]
brief sidenote and, I'm sure, flamebait.... Rape isn't as horrible as we make it out to be. it's because of societal implications that it's made into a massive event on a fair portion of accounts (this is, of course, asserting RAPE, not rape and assault, which is what we get into when they use blood covered models for intensifying peoples horror) and, on a mental level which is only enforced by societal views. At worst there's the risk of disease and pregnancy when it comes to rape. Yes. These are bad things. Accidental pregnancy/STD scares happen in society often, however, and NEITHER psychologically scars the victim for life. Only when it's put into the context of that magic word rape that it becomes life-ending.

TLDR: Rape doesn't ruin you, society does.
#354 to #335 - anon (06/21/2013) [-]
And water boarding is just an extreme bath. Rape has never been about the physical harm, it's a psychological issue.
#350 to #335 - anon (06/21/2013) [-]
The point of my rant was not to discuss how horrible rape is (even though I must admit as a female, it's one of the things I'm most afraid would happen to me or my friends), but just to point out how upset it makes me that someone truly believes that some people "are just asking for it".
Hope it's a bit clearer now toodles
#386 to #350 - anon (06/21/2013) [-]
Oh I wasn't claiming it was. I just felt it was a good time to bring up the "while we're at it" of "a lot of this wouldn't be a problem if not for societal reinforcement" suggesting that regarding sexism... perhaps we shouldn't be handling it with personal aggression but at fixing the bigger problem that spawns it? No I'm not saying "DOWN WITH THE SYSTEM!" I'm just suggesting some alterations to the way we build a peer pressure society.

And to the asshat who compared it to waterboarding, NO **** ! That was my point. It wouldn't BE a psychological issue if we didn't apply such importance to it... like comparing it to waterboarding.
User avatar #194 to #49 - bjorntheberserk (06/21/2013) [-]
Here is my retort to the whole "Equal pay thing"

www.youtube.com/watch?v=msNtF1vkyTI

www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EK6Y1X_xa4


One of the reasons women make less on average because a lot of them take time off for pregnancy and child rearing. Another is because statistically men are more likely to get careers in sciences/engineering whereas woman are more likely to get into careers in humanities and art. So there is your gender wage gap.
User avatar #82 to #49 - theexo (06/21/2013) [-]
there are more scholarships available to women, more academic aids, they get more educational support. there are quotas in place to make sure that females get into any kind of major they want because they are females, even if no females want to be in the major and male cannot take this spot. yes you are paid less, i'm sorry but we are getting ****** over too and no one ever seems to care because if we speak about it we get punished
#51 to #49 - denercov ONLINE (06/20/2013) [-]
No offence, but you're not a feminist... There was absolute truth and logic behind that statement.
User avatar #53 to #51 - Hreidmar (06/20/2013) [-]
No, she is a feminist. What she isn't is a feminazi or imbecile.

Assuming she's a she and not a he.
#63 to #53 - clinomania (06/20/2013) [-]
I see her more like an equalist
#54 to #53 - denercov ONLINE (06/20/2013) [-]
It was a joke, as all of the feminists I have ever met have been power hungry crazy whores.
User avatar #55 to #54 - Hreidmar (06/20/2013) [-]
Ooh, I see. All right. I'm rather bad at humour. And I must agree with you there, a lot of the people I know who identify themselves as feminists really just want preferential treatment and to feel important. But I know an equal amount of people who really are for equality, including equality in repercussions. So I sympathize a lot with the actual feminists who get a bad name from feminazis.
#339 to #55 - denercov ONLINE (06/21/2013) [-]
Yeah that's understandable. I admire your empathy, as I too feel the same.
User avatar #399 to #53 - jaigurudevaom (06/24/2013) [-]
Thank you
Yes, I am a female
#56 to #49 - teranin ONLINE (06/20/2013) [-]
Good on you, miss.  Good on you.
Good on you, miss. Good on you.
User avatar #377 to #49 - tealcanaan ONLINE (06/21/2013) [-]
On average women get paid similar wages as their male counterparts, the significant difference is in medial wage where it says women make 75% of what men make overall. This can be explained by the differences in carriers chosen by men and women.
#152 to #49 - captainasia (06/21/2013) [-]
While you have some valid points, I have to disagree with the part about wages/payment. I am a guy, in my 20s, and I work as a service porter at a car dealership. That means I wash cars, empty oil drains (from oil changes) and I empty all the garbage cans from the shop, full of old food, oil filters, dirty rags, even old parts. Now not but a month ago, they hired a female porter to work with me. Same job, same pay, $8.50/hour. She does literally nothing. She sits at a desk pretending she is a service adviser, while I'm stuck doing the bitch work. Hell, when I'm not there, I find out they have to call other people from other departments to basically do her job for her because she won't get off her ass. Now, I know not all women like are like this, there are a couple that pull there own weight, but the majority that I've worked with won't.
While you have some valid points, I have to disagree with the part about wages/payment. I am a guy, in my 20s, and I work as a service porter at a car dealership. That means I wash cars, empty oil drains (from oil changes) and I empty all the garbage cans from the shop, full of old food, oil filters, dirty rags, even old parts. Now not but a month ago, they hired a female porter to work with me. Same job, same pay, $8.50/hour. She does literally nothing. She sits at a desk pretending she is a service adviser, while I'm stuck doing the bitch work. Hell, when I'm not there, I find out they have to call other people from other departments to basically do her job for her because she won't get off her ass. Now, I know not all women like are like this, there are a couple that pull there own weight, but the majority that I've worked with won't.
#72 to #49 - anon (06/21/2013) [-]
I don't get the idea that saying people deserve bad things that happen to them is a female issue, if a man gets the **** kicked out of him for having sex with someone elses girlfriend all you'll hear is "he had it coming" its not an oppression thing its a humanity thing
User avatar #80 to #72 - osimonmagus (06/21/2013) [-]
It's because no matter what this feminist says they are still sexist
#88 to #49 - fishinyourface ONLINE (06/21/2013) [-]
unfortunately ALL of that is ruined by the stereotypes feminazis have created for other REAL feminists. This is why women with actual ideas on EQUALITY are being ignored the second they mention being a feminist...
unfortunately ALL of that is ruined by the stereotypes feminazis have created for other REAL feminists. This is why women with actual ideas on EQUALITY are being ignored the second they mention being a feminist...
User avatar #327 - eatinaintcheatin (06/21/2013) [-]
Most women just don't understand that men seeing them as an 'equal' doesn't come out of itself, it's up to them.
I'm a woman and my friends are mostly men and because i'm not acting like a whiny bitch all the time, they don't even see me as 'the girl' anymore i guess.
Posting angry things about men on facebook , claiming you're a feminist while you're just some feminazi or trying too hard to fit in by being the cool and aggressive bitch isn't going to help.
Bitches, bitches everywhere
User avatar #340 to #327 - zzforrest (06/21/2013) [-]
I have a friend a lot like you. She was a loner when I first met her, and because her name was chinese and sounded weird I was one of the first people to learn her name. At that point she had only just moved from canada to america so she had no friends. Now she has a large group of friends (almost entirely guys) and, unlike most girls I know, she was very comfortable around guys and preferred their company.
User avatar #343 to #340 - eatinaintcheatin (06/21/2013) [-]
Yes, i have ONE female friend who is like me and the girl you've described.
It's pretty rare...
It confuses me so much that most women don't seem to know how they need to act around men.
When a girl comes into my group of friends they either start to flirt with all of them, try to be the tough bitch or they're being too girly for attenion.
They need to calm down and stop being such attention seekers.
The only time you actually need to act like a real woman is when one of you're male friends got hurt, have questions about women or got into a fight with other women so you can slip in so they don't have to deal with the "i can't hit a woman" problem.
User avatar #345 to #327 - houseofbrick (06/21/2013) [-]
I like what you said, but I really don't like it when people say feminazi because it was popularized by Rush Limbaugh and I hate his fat guts.
User avatar #358 to #345 - keither (06/21/2013) [-]
Uber-feminists? or how about Super Serial Feminists?

I like the last one, we could use that instead of Fat Man Retard(aka Rush Limbaugh)'s term.
User avatar #346 to #345 - eatinaintcheatin (06/21/2013) [-]
Yes, but you know what i mean right?
User avatar #347 to #346 - houseofbrick (06/21/2013) [-]
yeah, I thumbed you up. It wasn't the message, it was the medium of the message that I disagreed with.
#328 to #327 - teranin ONLINE (06/21/2013) [-]
I like you.  Your name is interesting too.
I like you. Your name is interesting too.
User avatar #331 to #328 - eatinaintcheatin (06/21/2013) [-]
Oh yeah the guy who said i look like the avatar of evil!
I laughed so ******* hard when i saw that comment
#332 to #331 - teranin ONLINE (06/21/2013) [-]
ohhh yeah that was you!  Heh, I was really drunk when I made that comment.
ohhh yeah that was you! Heh, I was really drunk when I made that comment.
#337 to #327 - hanyouvale (06/21/2013) [-]
you just gave me hope for women.


you won my day.
#366 to #327 - broorb (06/21/2013) [-]
'most women' woah buddy
what kind of most are we talking about here?
I reckon you're being persuaded that the loudest = the most numerous
this is def. not the case
User avatar #367 to #366 - eatinaintcheatin (06/21/2013) [-]
I probably overreacted by saying most women, yeah.
But the women that i know, well most of 'em are like that.
#370 to #367 - broorb (06/21/2013) [-]
Ah fair enough, yeah. I totally agree with the rest of your post fo sho
User avatar #355 to #327 - TheseChocodiles (06/21/2013) [-]
I have honestly never met those girls you are talking about.
Where I come from, girls and boys are always friends with eachother, girls are just not like that and if they were, they'd be isolated because nobody gives a **** .

No bitchiness, that fades out after the age of 13.
Every tourist we meet tells us that northern irish girls are ''so chill'' to quote one of them.
Lol this makes me feel so happy to be from here.
User avatar #357 to #355 - eatinaintcheatin (06/21/2013) [-]
*Packing my bags and moving to Northern Ireland*
#230 - weenieandthebutt (06/21/2013) [-]
If thirdwave feminism gets to exist, then I feel men's rights needs to be advocated as well. Where the **** is your feminism when:

-Single men aren't allowed in most clubs, have to pay more than a woman and conform to annoying dress codes.

-in work places, women are allowed to wear most dresses, dye their hair etc whereas men have to dress professionally smart. I've had to dye my hair back to black and as a blonde, I felt more confident and had even gotten off with more girls.

-Virgin women are deemed as strong and respectable whereas virgin men are deemed as undesirable, reject losers.

-In divorce cases, a lot of the man's pay check goes towards the woman.

-Men who go gym are unfairly stereotyped as douchebags and that we're all testosterone fueled meatheads etc.

-Men who love flash cars are stereotyped as having tiny penises whereas it's perfectly fine with women having a **** load of pointless purses.

-In the dating game, men have to work a ton more harder than women to get laid or find love.

-Just because we're not as social as most women doesn't make us uncaring, avoidant etc.

-I can never hit a girl back, no matter how much she harms us or emotionally attacks us. Us men have feelings too.

-Just because I'm a male doesn't automatically make me fit for hard manual labour work, just like how every woman is not born to work in the kitchen.

-Getting called a loser, a creepy, a weirdo is just as degrading as it is for a woman being called a slut.

-As soon as I come home tired, the last thing I want is some female to have a go at me or nag me about something petty and not expect me to react in a bad way.
User avatar #231 to #230 - weenieandthebutt (06/21/2013) [-]
-No one gives a **** about males getting raped in prison, even weed smokers or people who illegally downloaded movies.

-There's more but I can't think of more at the moment than that, I just take the bad with the good.

-Women get to throw the 'nice guy' label around like a weapon, eventhough, nice guys actually exist who aren't seeking sex.

-en MUST sign up for drafts.

-Men have a proven less chance at seeing their child then women do when it comes to court cases.

-If a man speaks up about any of this (even during an appropriate time) he's a complainer.

-Men cannot become househusbands without being looked down upon by society. we have to have some form of money making job.

-If a man is yelled at by a women in public people walk past as if he deserves it. If it's the other way around people tell him to cool his jets against this innocent woman.

-A man has no fatherly rights or lawful say on whether they keep or abort the baby.

-If a man if accused of something by a crowd he is often guilty until proven innocent whereas all a women has to do is turn on the waterworks and people feel bad. I have seen this happen many times throughout jr.high, high school, and even now in college.

-It's okay for a woman to mislead the naive guy, leach him off free drinks and free meals, use sex as a leverage to manipulative the guy but as soon as the guy implements mind games into his gaming skills, he's seen as a manipulative asshole.

-the wife is allowed to shout at husband as soon as he comes home from a long day of work and is expected to take it.
User avatar #233 to #231 - animationhac (06/21/2013) [-]
Not to take any side cause both sides have **** points. Saying Men or Women are better is shenanigans and each gender should be treated the same instead of having a "Women's Movement" or "Men's Movement", lets have a "Equality Movement". So its rather dumb.

Most of your points here are flawed. Women gets raped in prison by the guards. No one cares and to be honest, I kind of can't care myself.

Women get yelled at in the house hold too. What you just said was that the Woman is abusive. That is not socially acceptable in no means. No one should be yelled at and it be 'ok' cause its not. No one in the real world says that a man should take it. Thats just a **** point.

In my area, women don't just 'get off' as easy as you say. There is cases but its not 100 percent of the time.

IT IS NEVER OK TO MISLEAD ANYONE! Women who do this are considered bitches and are called names. SHE DOESNT JUST GET A FREE PASS. Both people who do it are ass holes.

Hello, this is the new century, men can be house husbands and I know plenty of them and they are never talked down on. Stay at home wives know how hard it is to raise a family and people recognize it as a hard duty to perform.

Men should NEVER have a right over a woman's body. I am not against or with abortion but hear me out. If the girl wants to keep the baby she can. Why? She's carrying it. If the man doesnt like it, someone's pee pee shouldn't have shinagled in a vag before talking about "What happens if we get pregnant?". Be Prepared ***** .

Again, no form of abuse is in any means ok by society. gay men are in abusive situations with their partner, lesbians go through with it too. Straight couples go through it as well on both fences. IT ISNT OK AT ALL.

Voicing your opinion is a very mature manor is not a complaining. For the most part people can have their opinions and it not be complaining.

Women get labeled too, don't think its just men.
User avatar #234 to #233 - animationhac (06/21/2013) [-]
Men and woman both have a **** stick. Trust me. They all do. Even non straight peoples.

Don't just take arms in a "Gender Movement" make it an equality movement. Don't bitch about who has it worse cause both do. Both have expectations on who and what to be. They both have **** to go through. Its not just ONE person. It is MANY. Don't make this a man or woman thing.
User avatar #238 to #234 - weenieandthebutt (06/21/2013) [-]
I was just addressing each of the social disadvantages and stigmas that men have, I wasn't bitching about them. My point was that each gender deals with their own advantages and disadvantages, take the good with the bad and get over it.
User avatar #240 to #238 - animationhac (06/21/2013) [-]
Most people who address men's rights so far has been putting aside other people. I don't want people being like " **** Women cause we have it horribly bad" when that is totally not the case.
User avatar #242 to #240 - weenieandthebutt (06/21/2013) [-]
I'm opposite, I'm just sick and tired of women acting as if they have it worse and that us men are sooooo privileged. This ******** really riles me up! As for the disadvantages that men may have over women, I'm aware that most of is justified on biological and evolutionary grounds. I've been called a loser or looked down on (by men and women alike) that I was still a virgin but I can accept that. Rather than bitch, I decided to try and get into bodybuilding and prove my worth.
User avatar #245 to #242 - animationhac (06/21/2013) [-]
I've been called stuff too by being a virgin. You just brush it off. People are ass holes. Its humanity. I'm tired of everyone saying how rough they have it when its not just them.
User avatar #249 to #245 - weenieandthebutt (06/21/2013) [-]
I've had a rough time growing up at school, I've been in depression that's stemmed from my lack of social development over the years (where I inevitably was not able to find love or get sex etc). I know a couple of people with autism or aspergers who have had it 100x rougher than all the women combined yet people still continue to stigmatize them and not give a **** . **** society and **** third wave feminism!
User avatar #251 to #249 - animationhac (06/21/2013) [-]
That's just humanity dude. Feminism has nothing to do with people being a straight up ass hole to you..
User avatar #252 to #251 - weenieandthebutt (06/21/2013) [-]
Not saying it has anything to do with feminism but I'm saying that I hate how women bitch as if they have it harder than everyone else.
User avatar #253 to #252 - animationhac (06/21/2013) [-]
There will always be people who bitch about how they have it so hard though..
User avatar #257 to #231 - jasonvgrace (06/21/2013) [-]
Hmm, Australia doesn't seem to have like, any of these problems...or even if we do they aren't predominant in our society.
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