awk. inb4 anti-feminism misogynist. THAT IS SO TRUE BECAUSE: A) WOMEN WEAR SHOES BECAUSE THEY FEEL so COMFORTABLE B) WOMEN WEAR SHIRTS THAT SHOWS HALF OF THE BE nobody makes me bleed my own blood
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awk. inb4 anti-feminism misogynist. THAT IS SO TRUE BECAUSE: A) WOMEN WEAR SHOES BECAUSE THEY FEEL so COMFORTABLE B) WOMEN WEAR SHIRTS THAT SHOWS HALF OF THE BE

inb4 anti-feminism misogynist

THAT IS SO TRUE BECAUSE:
A) WOMEN WEAR SHOES BECAUSE THEY FEEL so COMFORTABLE
B) WOMEN WEAR SHIRTS THAT SHOWS HALF OF THE BECAUSE
THEY FEEL so COMFORTABLE IN IT, EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE TC) ADJUST
THE ******** THE TIME TC) PREVENT THEIR TO FULLY SLIP OUT
C) WOMEN WEAR SHORT SKIRTS FOR COMFORT REASONS, EVEN THOUGH
THEY HAVE TC) PULL IT DOWN ALL TIME TO PREVENT THEIR CUNTS TC)
BE SEEN
D) WOMEN WASTE HOURS DOING MAKE UP EVERY DAY TO NOT LOOK BETTER
IN THE EYES OF MEN
E) WOMEN PANIC WHEN THEY HAVE TC) GO OUTSIDE WITHOUT MAKEUP, NOT
BECAUSE OF THE LOOKS, BUT FOR SPIRITUAL REASONS
F) WOMEN WASTE THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS AND RISK THEIR HEALTH TO GET
SILICONE . NOT TC) LOOK PRE' I' I' IER OR SEXIER IN THE EYES OF MEN,
BUT TC) HELP WITH THEIR BACK PAINS
G) WOMEN WASTE THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS AND RISK THEIR HEALTH TO GET
BOTOX AND OTHER FACIAL TREATMENTS INCLUDING PLASTIC SURGERY
BECAUSE BEING FILLED WITH POISON AND CUT WITH KNIVES FEELS so
GOOD AND RELAXING
H) WOMEN WEAR THE SAME CLOTHES AND MAKEUP AT HOME AS THEY
DO OUTDOORS, AND TIGHT CLOTHES MAKES ONE FEEL
SC) RELAXED WHEN WATCHING TV
l) IF THE WORLD ENDED AND THE SOLE SURVIVOR WERE WOMAN, SHE WOULD
STILL WEAR AND DC) ALL THESE THINGS, FOR COMFORT REASONS
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#162 - ragged (06/14/2013) [-]
Have you ever worn a short skirt, OP? They're extremely comfortable. It's a shame that only women are supposed to wear them.
Have you ever worn a short skirt, OP? They're extremely comfortable. It's a shame that only women are supposed to wear them.
User avatar #176 to #174 - Crusader (06/14/2013) [-]
That is a KILT ************ , not a skirt.
Those are worn by some of the most manly ************* ever.
User avatar #205 to #176 - trollchildxy (06/14/2013) [-]
<3 Kilts, just ordered a new one to have come in the mail.

PS. If you own a kilt, but dont have calves of steel, you may still wear it, just know you'll look like a woman in it.
User avatar #194 to #174 - mrwalkerfour (06/14/2013) [-]
a kilt is worn because pants are too small for scottish balls
#2 - lolabunny (06/14/2013) [-]
A) It makes women feel good about themselves.
B) It makes women feel good about themselves.
C) It makes women feel good about themselves.
D) It makes women feel good about themselves.
E) It makes women feel bad about themselves.
F) It makes women feel good about themselves.
G) It makes women feel good about themselves.
H) See E.
I) She would. I went to an all girls school with no male teachers, they all still wore makeup.

In all truth, women do make themselves look good for other people, but it's not for men. It's competition with other women. Having men be attracted to you gives you more points, yeah, but it's not the criteria for winning. Have you looked at fashion recently? No way in hell is that stuff designed to be appealing to men, it's designed to be appealing to women.
Though of course no women taking part in the game would admit it because admitting you're just trying to win is almost an automatic loss, for some reason.
User avatar #131 to #2 - wardylocks (06/14/2013) [-]
thaaaaankyou!
#186 to #2 - anon (06/14/2013) [-]
The woman in the post used an ambiguous "you". She english'd against the whole world.
#187 to #2 - thestrangestboner (06/14/2013) [-]
The only reason it makes them feel good about themselves is because without those things they don't feel accepted. Only with all of those listed points (high heels, makeup, etc.) do they feel like they fit in, and fitting in makes oneself feel good.
#321 to #2 - anon (06/14/2013) [-]
But the sign says you. If he changed the text he wrote to be aimed at people in general instead of just men he would be correct. Either way, the woman in the picture is wrong.
#18 to #2 - anon (06/14/2013) [-]
no male teachers... how about them boys in your class?
User avatar #34 to #18 - chaostatic (06/14/2013) [-]
Son, what part of "all girls school" aren't you comprehending?
#137 to #2 - anon (06/14/2013) [-]
That, is a load, of total *********
#257 to #2 - ohgodwaitimatheist (06/14/2013) [-]
I actually double checked E
#295 to #2 - ninjaromy (06/14/2013) [-]
About I, you said she would.   
That is false, the only reason they do it there is because girls like to be known as the Prettiest, so therefore they try even HARDER there than they would at a mixed school, because then its just a whose Prettier fest.    
So OP was right, she would not give a 			****		 if she was the last person on Earth.
About I, you said she would.
That is false, the only reason they do it there is because girls like to be known as the Prettiest, so therefore they try even HARDER there than they would at a mixed school, because then its just a whose Prettier fest.
So OP was right, she would not give a **** if she was the last person on Earth.
#4 to #2 - anon (06/14/2013) [-]
Number i
maybe they're lesbians
#144 to #4 - lolabunny (06/14/2013) [-]
I didn't think about that, that works too.
User avatar #15 to #2 - thefunnyside (06/14/2013) [-]
I couldn't have said it better myself
#17 to #2 - venomthc (06/14/2013) [-]
The Game
#89 to #2 - methirtyseven (06/14/2013) [-]
The point is, although they don't consciously do it to "look good for men", society has conditioned them to associate looking attractive with being happy.
#142 to #89 - lolabunny (06/14/2013) [-]
I agree mostly. It is about attracting mates in the end (almost everything eventually falls down to getting sex or living long enough to get sex), but I think this derives more from females competing against other females to become the alpha female, in a sense.
And even if the end result is attracting more potential mates, that was not the goal the women in question set out to accomplish, which is the detail that is under scrutiny here.
User avatar #94 to #2 - maggotarms (06/14/2013) [-]
women were originally biologically made to attract the best male they can, for the best chance of their offspring maturing to adulthood, no matter what women say, there will always be a part in the back of their head which just wants guys to be attracted to them, though i agree that clearly cannot be the only reason
#148 to #94 - lolabunny (06/14/2013) [-]
I've repeated this so many times I regret not putting it in my original post. Yes attracting mates is what ultimately drives anyone to 'enhance' or even just maintain their appearance not just women, but my point was supposed to be that it was not her direct intention.
At no point did the lady in the picture think "this eyeshadow will make more men want to have sex with me", what she thought was "this eyeshadow will make me look pretty and that will make me feel good".
It's similar to the idea that the majority of competition between men is to establish dominance and become the alpha male, therefore attracting the most mates. But "this will make me the dominant male in the group and attract the most fertile mates" is not what a guy thinks when he is rough-housing, or playing a shooter or playing which ever sport he is into, all he thinks is "winning will make me feel good".
#201 to #2 - anon (06/14/2013) [-]
Couldn't have said it any better myself. =)
#88 to #2 - anon (06/14/2013) [-]
So it an ornganil version of The Game ?
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#76 to #2 - anon (06/14/2013) [-]
It makes you feel good about yourself ?
What about your health ?
If you have NOTHING to gain except that fake self-satisfaction is it really worth sacrificing your health over that ?
IMO i don't think its sensible of a human being to do that . Especially if its not to GAIN
something important.
Also you should recheck the I example .
It was an extreme example . You women would be fighting to stay alive ,
if you really were spending time on makeup that would just be less time into surviving.

#139 to #76 - lolabunny (06/14/2013) [-]
No where in my post did I insinuate that looking good was all that made someone happy, it's just that most of the examples given boil down to the same point "Women do uncomfortable thing X purely for their own comfort", so the answer is the same.
Many things make me happy; my hobbies, my parents, my friends, scientific advancement, good food and entertainment are all examples of things in my life that make me happier than looking good, but looking good does still make me feel more confident and therefore happier.
And looking good does tie into our health, a lot of people will keep in shape to look good.
It's not just women that do it, men like to feel attractive even when their goal is not really to attract anyone, either. It's engrained into us as a species to feel good when we look good.

And as for the I example, OP wasn't trying to say "In a post apocolyptic waste land women would still do it", he was trying to say "when isolated (particularly from men, given the image) she wouldn't do it", and my point stands
User avatar #3 to #2 - jurto (06/14/2013) [-]
Meh, I may be being stupid, but here is my opinion.
It's true that girls look good to be good with themselves. But I still think that if they feel good with themselves is because they know they are desired. Being attractive has the only perk of succeeding in the achieve of men.
As we, men, we do other things like gym. It's true, in the end we don't really care that much about what was our primal objective. We develop more deep feelings, and competition makes it to be our new fuel to keep it up. We, humans, are complex as **** .

Beauty is only a sign for fertility, and seek for it has its primal motivation on being appealing to the opponent sex.

Sorry for the ****** English.
User avatar #10 to #3 - SpicerHyx (06/14/2013) [-]
That was beautiful English, and you are a beautiful human being for understanding what it's really all about
User avatar #127 to #10 - jurto (06/14/2013) [-]
Is that sarcasm? D=
User avatar #164 to #127 - SpicerHyx (06/14/2013) [-]
NO NO NO NO NO NO I really meant that. Not a lot of people really get that humans like to be attractive because it really does come down to the primal instincts of mating, but it's not as prominent in today's society because it's no longer a fact that everyone is looking to find a mate and make babies with.
#143 to #3 - lolabunny (06/14/2013) [-]
I understand your point, but I never said feeling attractive to members of the opposite sex (or same sex if that's your thing) wasn't a part of it. It almost definitely is at it's very core, but it was not her conscious objective when she put on her lippy and heels in the morning, which is what this post is insinuating.
#1 - jakatackka (06/14/2013) [-]
Representing all women by the shallow and materialistic minority is just as bad as feminazis representing men by the masochistic and sexist minority. If you want to help rid the world of narrow-mindedness, stop being narrow-minded.
User avatar #21 to #1 - tkfourtwoone ONLINE (06/14/2013) [-]
I think you mean "shallow and materialistic MAJORITY".
#5 - nylak (06/14/2013) [-]
Hey, guys. Most of us girls wear nice clothes and use **** like makeup to impress other girls.

Not in a sexual way; a social way.

Do you care about what style of shoes we wear? Makeup shades? Colour coordination of eyeshadow with our outfits? How well-groomed our nails are? What brands we choose? Probably not! But other women that we interact with on a day-to-day basis do, and it affects how we react to one another.

Welcome to female culture. It doesn't make sense, and guys don't matter as much as they think they do.
#183 to #5 - doctoreccleston (06/14/2013) [-]
Thank you so ******* much. That was glorious.
#22 to #5 - anon (06/14/2013) [-]
**** yes!
#48 to #5 - anon (06/14/2013) [-]
Exactly
#126 to #5 - anon (06/14/2013) [-]
But this competition started because speaking in terms of evolution, the best-looking one gets the best male to mate with. In fact, just about every "unexplainable" part of human nature boils down to getting the dirty on.
User avatar #342 to #126 - nylak (06/15/2013) [-]
I definitely don't dispute the veracity of this; bonobo monkeys (dwarf" chimpanzees) have a similar social order to human females.

But I would bet money that if every single male on Earth vanished, women would still wear makeup.
#228 to #5 - hodhandr (06/14/2013) [-]
Here, have a thumb for writing down all that and also enlightening me.
Too bad I only have one thumb for each time someone says something.
#317 to #5 - lastsamurai (06/14/2013) [-]
I mean I wear something nice because of both males and females..
Why shouldn't it be the same for women...?

Many guys on here aren't exactly alpha's.. so many of them just want something to hate to feel better.
Human nature .. Even though it's something I've always hated about this site.
User avatar #130 to #5 - sneakydk (06/14/2013) [-]
It's still about looking better than other women so you can attract a better mate.
User avatar #103 to #5 - scorcho (06/14/2013) [-]
so it's the same as cars are for men?
#117 to #103 - anon (06/14/2013) [-]
Yes.
User avatar #166 to #103 - nylak (06/14/2013) [-]
Yes, exactly.
#140 - ironsoul (06/14/2013) [-]
Maybe she is a lesbian and is doing it for other lesbians.
#80 - therulethirtyfour (06/14/2013) [-]
So I'm preparing my body for the red thumb enema but there is a flaw I keep seeing in these types of arguments.   
   
Why is it that all of the arguments assume women wear these things for males?   
   
I mean, if FJ is so &quot;progressive&quot; then why can't women wear make-up/tight clothes for other women because they want to be attractive to other women? Don't we all love lesbians? Why do we assume they're dressing to impress us (speaking for the males here).   
   
Not to mention the fact that wearing flattering clothing isn't strictly and solely (hetero)sexual. When you look good people are more likely to talk to you, be nice to you, have interest in you, and do things for you. What's wrong with wanting all of those things? I dress up when I'm hanging out with my guy friends even when it's guys night in (excessive amounts of alcohol, 			******		 movies, and video games) and it's not because I want to bone or be boned by my friends; it's because you want to impress/influence others.   
   
Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending these ultra-neo-feminists, I'm just saying that these arguments are just as flaccid as theirs.
So I'm preparing my body for the red thumb enema but there is a flaw I keep seeing in these types of arguments.

Why is it that all of the arguments assume women wear these things for males?

I mean, if FJ is so "progressive" then why can't women wear make-up/tight clothes for other women because they want to be attractive to other women? Don't we all love lesbians? Why do we assume they're dressing to impress us (speaking for the males here).

Not to mention the fact that wearing flattering clothing isn't strictly and solely (hetero)sexual. When you look good people are more likely to talk to you, be nice to you, have interest in you, and do things for you. What's wrong with wanting all of those things? I dress up when I'm hanging out with my guy friends even when it's guys night in (excessive amounts of alcohol, ****** movies, and video games) and it's not because I want to bone or be boned by my friends; it's because you want to impress/influence others.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending these ultra-neo-feminists, I'm just saying that these arguments are just as flaccid as theirs.
#98 to #80 - rprol (06/14/2013) [-]
A valid point. I just assume that OP just put "males" so that he didn't have to put "whatever sexuality they are attracted to".
#150 to #80 - anon (06/14/2013) [-]
First, he's not assuming women wear these things for males and moving on from there to make other points. He's demonstrating that they do, in fact, wear them, for men either directly or indirectly (intra-straight female competition) through the points he's making.

Second, your argument about lesbians is a fallacy. It's called an argument from exception. Lesbians make up less than 1% of the population. So the RULE is straight women, so what he's saying applies to 99% of women in principle. What you're doing is a red herring.

Third, the argument (not so much mentioned by you, but by others) of women doing it for other (straight) women, or for themselves:
Doing it for other straight women is a intra-female competition for the attention of men. She's essentially showing other women that her status is higher than that other woman, because she can attract more positive attention from men.
Doing it for yourself: there's two kinds of dressing good. (cont.)
#154 to #150 - anon (06/14/2013) [-]
(cont.) 1st kind is dressing presentably but modestly, and putting on light make up so your face doesn't look like **** . That I can accept it being for yourself, or for others to get their respect and that this way is non-sexual. Example: a professional secretary attire.
The 2nd kind is dressing sexily and attractively, accentuating curves, increasing cleavage through push-up bras, partially revealing secondary sexual characteristics, wearing make-up that simulates high-fertility/ovulation (e.g. red lipstick). That look is sexual and is attractive. Attractive to who? to men as a rule.
User avatar #289 - metalnettle (06/14/2013) [-]
It seems like people have a lot of mixed feelings about this, and maybe i'm missing the point here a little but hear me out.

Firstly, not everything women do is to please a man or for attention (crazy right?) obviously some women are driven by the lust for attention but this is not everyone! When I go out, I like to look good for myself so i feel confident, there shouldn't be anything wrong with that, everyone wants to look good. I'm not saying that that is the only reason, as everyone likes to be complimented but just because you don't dress in sweats or a onesie every day because of comfort doesn't mean you are an attention seeking slut.

Which brings me to another point, even if a girl decides to dress in a more provocative manner it should be no excuse for people to assult them sexually, physically or verbally. They know they will get more attention and maybe they even like it but they are in no way 'asking' for anything. If a painting looks really good in a museum, and you steal it, is ''oh it would have looked amazing in my living room, its your fault for painting so well and making me take it'' a good excuse? no one!! made!! anyone do anything. People should be aware that there are creeps out there who do think like this and maybe dress accordingly, but is it fair that a woman needs to be scared of being assaulted just by the way they dress where as men could wear a speedo and flipflops in the street and no one would care, maybe even think they are funny?

I'm not putting women on a pedestal here but unfortunately our society just loves slut shaming at the moment and i think it should be toned down. sorry for the long post.

tl;dr not all women are sluts because they like to look good, stop slut shaming.
User avatar #323 to #289 - settlwlvs (06/14/2013) [-]
as far as the sexual assault thing goes, there is a large difference between women who dress nice and get raped and ones that wear skirts small enough to show their ass cheeks and go get drunk by themselves at sketchy clubs. The latter is just stupidity, and although they didn't "ask" to get raped, they put themselves in extremely vulnerable positions without thinking or caring about what may happen. It's like walking around your neighborhood with $100 in your wallet vs. going to the ghetto with a bag of cash labeled "money." "Officer, It's not MY fault I got robbed while on the wrong side of town advertising that I have a lot of money to sketchy people without thinking first."

I mean, come on. Common sense people. If you dress like a whore and go alone to places where horny guys are, SOMEONE is going to try and take advantage of you.

You can look beautiful without looking like a skank, geeze.
User avatar #328 to #323 - metalnettle (06/14/2013) [-]
I completely agree with you, some people are just ridiculously irresponsible, like in the example you just gave and i even briefly mentioned something along those lines ''People should be aware that there are creeps out there who do think like this and maybe dress accordingly''.
However, the biggest problem in situations like that is that the girl doesn't know how to look after herself rather than what she is wearing. The combination of being drunk, wearing little and being around a bad crowd with no one to look after you is really the problem rather than the clothes alone. Of course it is irresponsible, as everyone knows that there are bad people just looking for an opportunity to do bad things.. I think as well as educate women to keep themselves safe (make sure no one put something in the drink, carry pepper spray or a rape alarm, not getting in a strangers car etc.) we should be re thinking the way we think about rape and ensuring that men (and women) know that rape is never the victims fault and it is their disgusting act that is the problem. By advocating slut shaming, we are just telling rapists that 'it's okay' because they provoked you.
User avatar #331 to #328 - settlwlvs (06/14/2013) [-]
If girls learned to take someone responsible with them when they drank, went to less dangerous bars, and learned to dress attractively without making themselves a target, they wouldn't have to worry. You can't always watch your drink, and sometimes when you realize you need pepper spray it may already be too late to grab it. Sometimes you accidentally spray yourself and things get even worse (it happened to my sister. She had it on her keychain and when someone threw her the keys she caught the button and sprayed herself). My point is, don't teach them how to be safe in dangerous environments. Teach them to no go to dangerous environments. Staying out of the cage is way easier than learning to wrestle a bear.
User avatar #333 to #331 - metalnettle (06/14/2013) [-]
I have actually always wondered how fiddly it would be to use something like that in such a stressful situation. That's true, although it should also be taught how to survive 'in the cage' as you never know when you may find yourself in that situation for whatever reason.
User avatar #325 to #289 - settlwlvs (06/14/2013) [-]
And I'm not saying all women who try to look good are sluts. I go shopping with my female friends all the time and they look super cute in jeans and a cute button up over a white tank. We go dress shopping too, and they happen to be the most gorgeous girls when they try on dresses, and they often don't show any cleavage and have quite long skirts (I don't know the actual term for the bottom half of the dress) on them.

My point is, looking good is not the same as showing skin. The girls who get called sluts are typically the ones who are too centered on feeling sexually wanted to acknowledge the difference.
#270 - fourthusername (06/14/2013) [-]
The woman in the picture clearly uses the personal pronoun of "my"
The woman in the picture is visibly wearing any of the items OP criticizes
2/10 - do u even grammar?
#67 - daforceluk (06/14/2013) [-]
My father used to say, "A man wears nice clothes to impress women, a woman wears nice clothes to impress other women."
#145 - Budzilla (06/14/2013) [-]
How is everyone this lost? Women have been crafted by society for years and years, men have had control over society for years and years (remember?). Men created norms for women needing to look pretty as **** , at all times. This is an undeniable fact. Men never were subjected to these strange norms on appearance, at least not for the past 70 years or so. These norms for women have been in society for so long in fact, that it has been created into something to literally enjoy now, buying/wearing shoes, wearing makeup, looking good for the sake of being attractive ect. of course not every girl is, but talk about gradual brainwashing, (guys we do the same thing just at a different intensity) . And who are you to call them stupid and blame them for this trend? Our society has never felt the need to scold this trend, these norms have only been strengthened by television. What we let pass as "entertainment" will always have a societal impact on individuals and what these assume norms are, especially shallow, easier attainable norms such as an aesthetic norm for feminine appearance. And above all your ******* ranting at one sign and trying to drag all of feminism into it? You do realize feminism is a philosophy and is much more complex and dynamic than a ******* sign. Your pulling classic media manipulation, and I don't think you even ******* realize it. This evidently seem to happen allot on the internet.
#293 to #145 - anon (06/14/2013) [-]
people buying into society is what's looked down upon. More respect, in my eyes, is held for those who do not eat this crap that's been set up for generations. Saying 'women have been crafted by society' is naive and ignorant, because you assume that these people can be forced at all times to live the way others tell them to live. OP is pointing out the idiocy of following these 'standards' instead of doing what should actually make an individual happy. Muhatma Ghandi: "You must be the change you wish to see in the world". If these women truly want to be treated with respect, they should treat themselves with respect.

On the other hand, if you must work as a stripper, for example, to make money, at your job you ARE a piece of meat to be admired, there is no argument to be had there; i find the entire business to be profane, but there it is. True, though, that does not mean you should be treated as one outside of your job. There is an intense lack of understanding in the world.
User avatar #330 to #293 - Budzilla (06/14/2013) [-]
Im not so sure what your trying to say. But i can assure you my friend there was defiantly a time where women were made to live a certain way. So long in fact that it became part of america's culture, and it became so ingrained that even after years of women gaining more rights, there are still underlining pressures from the media that seem to limit what means to be an "acceptable" women (what ever that really means ). Sure you cant force them all the time, but they sure as hell can. And many do, because it has been passed down as the "correct" way to be. I don't know where you get off saying I'm ignorant, quite frankly, I think you may lack the understanding that although "You must be the change you wish to see in the world" sometimes you get ******* raped and beaten or your life is ruined for making the smallest change that may give you more rights, (depending on your country obviously). Change must be gradual, and can only be gradual if you desire real full change. Op must realize and well as you that we sorta created these trends. Further more, it may seem weird that they're trying to prove their freedom by "not dressing for you, but for her self" this is the same thing as African Americans taking back the slave word " ****** " and making their own word. Although I personally don't know how effective this method is of change, it seems to me just an awkward period of revolution.
User avatar #354 to #330 - defiantly (06/18/2013) [-]
You probably meant to use "definitely".
User avatar #99 - Spectacularity (06/14/2013) [-]
Maybe women do it because it makes them feel good about themselves.
Women can do something uncomfortable because they like the way it makes them look and it could have nothing to do with men.
Maybe women do it because they've been told their whole lives that they're only pretty if they wear certain things or have big boobs or lots of makeup.
Maybe you're just small-minded.
User avatar #259 - blacklite (06/14/2013) [-]
It doesn't really have anything to do with what men think. They want to look good in their own eyes.
#128 - hankmccoy (06/14/2013) [-]
MFW
#6 - secretdestroyers (06/14/2013) [-]
OP, you're missing the point, the point is that we shouldn't just be blatantly controlling what women wear. This is probably more of a poke at the conservatism of Arab countries and their standards of dressing for women.

Also, this anti-feminist ******** is getting old. Seriously, grow up.
#86 to #6 - mrloki ONLINE (06/14/2013) [-]
**mrloki rolled a random image posted in comment #28 at Justfacebookthings ** as long as we have fun on behalf of ******* femi-nazists we shall have fun so... not getting old at all, let us all drink to global stupidity and have some laughs !
#209 to #6 - anon (06/14/2013) [-]
Last time I checked no one was putting a gun to your head and telling you wear makeup. If a girl thinks society is making her wear that then she is pretty ******* stupid. Of course you'll have males who will gawk and comment on their appearance but when was the last time you heard a guy bash on a girl who wasn't wearing high heels? Here's how it is. Wear normal clothes= No abnormal comments or attention. Wear makeup and high heels= Abnormal comments and attention. You see? If a girl wears the clothes to feel good about herself then how is society telling her what to wear? She is doing it for her own reasons.
User avatar #71 to #6 - osimonmagus (06/14/2013) [-]
You know who should also grow up? Hypocritical and ignorant feminists thinking they are going to change the entire planet when the only thing their movement does is piss people off due to their lack of ability to change anything about anything because they are wrong.
User avatar #8 to #6 - ilovemyguns (06/14/2013) [-]
Spotted the feminist!
#16 to #6 - anon (06/14/2013) [-]
It isn't.

This is from slutwalk.
#287 - fishinyourface ONLINE (06/14/2013) [-]
women aren't allowed to feel sexy for themselves, they must dress up so others can oggle their body like a pubescent 12 year old.
User avatar #291 to #287 - agrofenlas ONLINE (06/14/2013) [-]
If there is no one to look good for, whats the point?
Sure, I'm a guy. But you don't see me cleaning myself up for people, because no one is going to compliment me on how I look.
User avatar #296 to #291 - nuclearnarwhal (06/14/2013) [-]
You look nice, agrofenlas.
#298 to #296 - jazzyietheferret (06/14/2013) [-]
yea, I'd do you...I'd do you real hard.
#297 to #296 - agrofenlas ONLINE (06/14/2013) [-]
Lies, I look like **** , but thanks for sentiment.
#300 to #297 - jazzyietheferret (06/14/2013) [-]
tugging on those lil whiskers too.
#301 to #300 - agrofenlas ONLINE (06/14/2013) [-]
Its because I don't shave. 			****		 shaving.
Its because I don't shave. **** shaving.
#302 to #301 - jazzyietheferret (06/14/2013) [-]
I don't shave my beard either, we could rub them together maybe?
#303 to #302 - agrofenlas ONLINE (06/14/2013) [-]
That is the weirdest thing you could have said.    
I kind of imagine it'd be like either kittens or sand paper on my face.
That is the weirdest thing you could have said.
I kind of imagine it'd be like either kittens or sand paper on my face.
#304 to #303 - jazzyietheferret (06/14/2013) [-]
Kittens, I moisturize.
#305 to #304 - agrofenlas ONLINE (06/14/2013) [-]
I can't help but laugh at that.   
Mines only like sandpaper when when I shave it to stubble.
I can't help but laugh at that.
Mines only like sandpaper when when I shave it to stubble.
#9 - SpicerHyx (06/14/2013) [-]
Sorry boys.   
While a lot of girls dress up and wear certain clothing to impress men, it's not all about you.    
I'm engaged and completely uninterested in anyone else, and I still dress nicely and put makeup on and do my hair to feel good about myself.   
   
Everyone feels better when they know they look good.   
It's not about impressing other people.
Sorry boys.
While a lot of girls dress up and wear certain clothing to impress men, it's not all about you.
I'm engaged and completely uninterested in anyone else, and I still dress nicely and put makeup on and do my hair to feel good about myself.

Everyone feels better when they know they look good.
It's not about impressing other people.
User avatar #20 to #9 - tkfourtwoone ONLINE (06/14/2013) [-]
...why do you need make-up to feel good about yourself?

I smell some self-ownage with that one...
User avatar #23 to #20 - doooublebaass (06/14/2013) [-]
Stepping in as a man... I like to feel good about myself. I like the feeling of getting a new haircut, having a good shave and going out in a suit. Have you never done something because it made you feel better than other people?

It's the same idea. It's not all about impressing other people, sometimes it's about impressing yourself.
User avatar #30 to #23 - tkfourtwoone ONLINE (06/14/2013) [-]
There's a difference between not looking like a tramp and putting make up on.

A girl can look very OK with no make-up, you know. While almost no body looks good without combing their hair, for instance.
User avatar #40 to #30 - chaostatic (06/14/2013) [-]
For one, the idea behind putting make-up on is to enhance your best features while not making it look like you have make-up on. It's true that some girls overdo it, and it's also true that others look just fine without it.

Second, if "very OK" is the best they can hope to achieve without make-up (which in some cases might be true but in others it definitely isn't), then it's no wonder that girls wear make-up to feel better about themselves. Telling someone they look very OK is like saying "wow, you look really mediocre today"...not the best compliment.
User avatar #41 to #40 - tkfourtwoone ONLINE (06/14/2013) [-]
"Very OK" as in "you really don't need make-up every time you go out to buy bread", you know
User avatar #42 to #41 - chaostatic (06/14/2013) [-]
I can see where you're coming from there...re-applying make-up for every errand seems a little excessive (and probably tiring for the person doing it). But hey, if it makes them feel better about themselves and it's not hurting anyone, like, whatever, dude.
User avatar #44 to #42 - tkfourtwoone ONLINE (06/14/2013) [-]
Most of the times, if you really do put on make-up every time you exit the house, that's a self-confidence issue.

And that's not me, as a dude, saying it, but most of the women I know.
User avatar #179 to #23 - tkfourtwoone ONLINE (06/14/2013) [-]
Actually, I have long hair, which I only comb and tie it in a simple tail, I sport a full beard for quite some time AND I don't really like wearing suits. My current job does in no manner of shape require me to wear a suit.

And to be a bit on the ego-whore, even reading some comments, either on FJ or on news sites in general, I suddenly feel a lot better than other people... if you know what I mean.
User avatar #69 to #23 - osimonmagus (06/14/2013) [-]
I don't need to conform to societies stigmas to feel good about myself. Sure, I like the way a suit looks and I like the way a nice shave looks but I only shave to stop the itching and I only wear a suit for a special occasion. If not, I have no shirt on in the house and I am in basketball shorts. You're just the same as the women described in this content. You being a man doesn't change anything. You're just another person enslaved by the 'looking good should make you feel good and if you don't look good you can't feel that way' stigma put on you by society.
User avatar #349 to #69 - doooublebaass (06/16/2013) [-]
It's nothing to do with social stigma, I know what I like and I like it. I don't like to smoke because society thinks it's the right thing to do, I don't keep snakes beccause society thinks it's the right thing to do... I don't make myself look good because society thinks it's the right thing to do.

I do all of those things because I like to - not because other people like when I do (Except the last part, it's the fact that other people like it that makes you feel good about it)

Honestly, you seem a bit sour about something or other I said. Mind pointing out exactly what I said that offended you? I regularly feel good without looking good. Infact, right now I'm sitting in boxers, socks and a t-shirt, but I feel pretty good about life. Nothing wrong with looking good for a while, if you ask me.
User avatar #350 to #349 - osimonmagus (06/16/2013) [-]
You MUST be autistic.
If society never said that dressing nice should make you feel nice then no one would care. Idiot.
User avatar #351 to #350 - doooublebaass (06/16/2013) [-]
Got yourself a bit backwards there, I think. I'm pretty convinced you must be at least a little ****** in the head to have this holier-than-thou mindset.

So, do you wander around in the nude because it doesn't conform to normality? Of course you don't, you wear clothes that you think look good. It's nothing to do with what society thinks.
#124 to #69 - anon (06/14/2013) [-]
You're very against things you feel are dictated to you by society. Nobody said looking good was the only way to feel good, but it can help some people feel better about themselves and there's no reason that they shouldn't do things that make them feel better about themselves, whatever that thing may be. I like dancing, so if i get upset I dance. I like doing my makeup, it's an artistic medium i enjoy, so if i get upset i do my makeup. Some people like wearing certain outfits or being fashionable, it makes them feel better. So why shouldn't they?
User avatar #159 to #20 - SpicerHyx (06/14/2013) [-]
Because I look like an albino alien without it? I'm a ginger and I have platinum blonde eyebrows/eyelashes and I have never felt confident without makeup
#14 to #9 - agrael (06/14/2013) [-]
You dress nicely and put on make because you know it alters the view people have of you, and THAT makes you feel good about yourself. People like being liked. It's that simple really.
User avatar #161 to #14 - SpicerHyx (06/14/2013) [-]
Except with me, it has nothing to do with other people. I'm engaged and my fiance hates when I wear makeup. No one gives me attention elsewhere because I really don't go out. I look nicely for myself, quite literally. But it's not like that for everyone, which is okay, and people should stop assuming that people try to look nice for other people.
#198 to #9 - grahamernazi (06/14/2013) [-]
But, depending on how you dress, it IS about impressing guys. If you dress with revealing clothes, it is get someone to notice you sexually. You only look "good" with revealing clothes if someone is attracted to women; usually guys. Besides women 15 and younger, which are trying to attract a date, they all think you should dress casual or perhaps classy while outside. Otherwise, most will call you a whore. However, guys will always love this at nearly any age.

This is why I dress like Goku. Classy AND arousing.
User avatar #199 to #198 - SpicerHyx (06/14/2013) [-]
You're right, BUT, people shouldn't assume that, because someone dresses nice, it's for other people. Not everyone, in fact the majority doesn't actually "dress to impress".

While a lot of people WILL, it's not fair to assume that, just because I'm wearing a flattering shirt, I'm doing it to look good for you. Because I'm not.

So.
#202 to #199 - grahamernazi (06/14/2013) [-]
I am only talking about revealing outfits, like bottom-of-the-ass revealing skirts and near-nip-slip tops. That is the only thing that is going for sheer arousal purposes (mainly geared towards men, with most women) and not for comfort. I would love to see women walk around in outfits like that, but you know what's in my mind? I'm thinking they're just trying to impress some guy, so she'll 			****		 them like the whore she is. I think women can look good fully clothed with jeans and a t-shirt, regardless of their assets.   
   
This is the ONLY thing I am getting at; women with skimpy outfits. They're geared towards guys or lesbians to arouse them. That's it.   
   
Take this cutie for instance.
I am only talking about revealing outfits, like bottom-of-the-ass revealing skirts and near-nip-slip tops. That is the only thing that is going for sheer arousal purposes (mainly geared towards men, with most women) and not for comfort. I would love to see women walk around in outfits like that, but you know what's in my mind? I'm thinking they're just trying to impress some guy, so she'll **** them like the whore she is. I think women can look good fully clothed with jeans and a t-shirt, regardless of their assets.

This is the ONLY thing I am getting at; women with skimpy outfits. They're geared towards guys or lesbians to arouse them. That's it.

Take this cutie for instance.
User avatar #203 to #202 - SpicerHyx (06/14/2013) [-]
I was trying really hard not to stare at the gif while reading your comment lol

And I agree with you. When I was in high school, I couldn't stand seeing girls who would wear heels and skirts and low cut tops to SCHOOL. I can understand when it's like college or something but not HIGH SCHOOL. I mean, you're there to learn math and science not the average rate of change on how many dicks you can get in a semester
#11 to #9 - Neodude ONLINE (06/14/2013) [-]
So you can't feel good if you don't alter your regular appearance....
User avatar #125 to #11 - buttplugmaster (06/14/2013) [-]
of course you can. But enhancing what you view to be your best features doesn't hurt either. It isn't needed, but it's wanted.
User avatar #70 to #11 - osimonmagus (06/14/2013) [-]
Apparently they don't know how to.
User avatar #66 to #9 - osimonmagus (06/14/2013) [-]
The only reason you feel good about looking good is due to the social stigma that says looking good is a good thing. If no one cared about their looks no one would feel especially good while looking good. Do you wake up, do make up, dress nicely and stay like that all day or do you still only do it when you're going somewhere? If so, you're no different from those who dress to impress. You're simply doing it in a repressed and backwards way without realizing it and that seems like justification for you. Don't get all self-righteous yet, you're still the same.
User avatar #157 to #66 - SpicerHyx (06/14/2013) [-]
I actually get up, do my makeup and dress nicely even if I'm just staying at home all day because I like to look at myself in the mirror and feel good about the way I look. I don't have anyone to impress but myself.
User avatar #175 to #157 - tkfourtwoone ONLINE (06/14/2013) [-]
It's really, REALLY sad if you have to put make up on to make you feel good when you look when in the mirror.

Guess what. honey - that's not your real face
User avatar #177 to #175 - SpicerHyx (06/14/2013) [-]
Considering I've had crippling self-consciousness since I can remember, I have yet to grow out of not needing makeup to feel good about myself.

I'm aware it's not my real face, and I can go without makeup quite often, I just choose not to because I feel better when I control what my face looks like instead of possibly looking like an alien
User avatar #181 to #177 - tkfourtwoone ONLINE (06/14/2013) [-]
"I feel better when I control what my face looks like instead of possibly looking like an alien"

Well then, you haven't "had" a crippling self-consciousness (actually I consider lack of confidence), you still do.
User avatar #182 to #181 - SpicerHyx (06/14/2013) [-]
I've HAD it SINCE I can remember. As in I STILL have it.

User avatar #184 to #182 - tkfourtwoone ONLINE (06/14/2013) [-]
Well, it's kind of ****** . And before you judge me too harshly, you have my sympathy.
#185 to #184 - SpicerHyx (06/14/2013) [-]
It's really ****** lol and I'm not judging you at all. In fact I agree with you. I hate the fact that I don't feel confident in my own skin and that it's not my real face, but I feel better overall when I do my makeup.

In case you were wondering
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User avatar #36 to #9 - awesomesaucy (06/14/2013) [-]
There's a difference between putting on make up and dressing nice and completely skanking yourself out for attention. my friend would walk around in heels and shorts that her ass cheeks poked out of and unbutton her top until it was just below her bra line and she would tell me they were her "comfy clothes" However she would only dress like that in public and never at home.
User avatar #158 to #36 - SpicerHyx (06/14/2013) [-]
I feel you there. There are plenty of girls that skank themselves out for attention, but this post was saying that dressing nicely is apparently just for looking good in the eyes of others.
#45 to #9 - antigravitycake (06/14/2013) [-]
the same can be said about some guys.
some guys put lines in their eyebrows and shave lines on their heads yet it looks ******* stupid
some guys lift for girls, others lift for confidence
some guys wear jewelry because they think that particular ring/chain looks cool, others will wear it in an attempt to look cool
i have a twatty ex friend who is a judgemental prick who wears tight jeans that look uncomfortable, has long emo hair because he thinks it makes him look 'cute'. he likes to call me a deuche because i lift for confidence, wear cargo pants because they are cosy and boots because they are lasting and practical.
there cunts on both genders. women seem to get it in the neck more.
#146 - jaigurudevaom (06/14/2013) [-]
If I wear a skirt (not even a short one, just a normal skirt) I can get things said to me like "ay gurl, can I get yo number?" or touched, I should be able to wear what I want, other people should control themselves
This post is dumb
#149 to #146 - anon (06/14/2013) [-]
So if a guy went outside in short shorts which say "juicy" on the back and a skin-tight deep neck shirt, he should expect no one to comment.

You can wear what you want, but if you dress like a slut, you should expect to be treated like one.

Or do you treat people who dress in suits the same way you treat people who dress in gang clothing?

What you wear is a CHOICE, if you CHOOSE to dress in a certain manner, you are choosing to be seen in that way.
#281 - deletedmyaccount ONLINE (06/14/2013) [-]
Feeling sexy and having people come on to you are two totally separate things. Sometimes girls just dress provocatively because it makes THEM feel better, not because they want attention.

I mean, sometimes, I just wear fancier clothes because I wanna feel fukken fancy, not because I want to impress girls. Also, I ******* love ties.
User avatar #171 - stultum (06/14/2013) [-]
two words: peer pressure.

In many circles, if we don't, we get shunned by the other women, wether we want to impress men or not.
#107 - sparkieemae (06/14/2013) [-]
Oh yeah this image is mad relevant to the text because    
&gt;You can totes see what kind of shoes she's even wearing   
&gt;Oh yeah, look at those mammaries hanging all over the place.   
&gt;She's for sure wearing a crotch flashing skirt.   
&gt;Look at her, made up like a 			*******		 clown.   
&gt;Oh wait, I'm going to admit she's actually not because she's actually freaking out because she isn't.   
&gt;Look at those clearly plastic knockers, you aren't fooling anyone feminist. I know those are all for show.   
&gt;Bitch clearly has more botox in her face than all of Michael Jacksons (arguably well preserved) corpse and Joan Rivers COMBINED.   
&gt;Yeah bitch we know you can't keep up this ruse at home   
&gt;OR IF YOU WHERE THE LAST HOE ON EARTH!!!!
Oh yeah this image is mad relevant to the text because
>You can totes see what kind of shoes she's even wearing
>Oh yeah, look at those mammaries hanging all over the place.
>She's for sure wearing a crotch flashing skirt.
>Look at her, made up like a ******* clown.
>Oh wait, I'm going to admit she's actually not because she's actually freaking out because she isn't.
>Look at those clearly plastic knockers, you aren't fooling anyone feminist. I know those are all for show.
>Bitch clearly has more botox in her face than all of Michael Jacksons (arguably well preserved) corpse and Joan Rivers COMBINED.
>Yeah bitch we know you can't keep up this ruse at home
>OR IF YOU WHERE THE LAST HOE ON EARTH!!!!
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