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1 in a Women will be Raped by the
Time They Finish College.''
That is the statistic being decried by feminists.
That is their proof of "rape culture."
Here are the actual numbers of
reported sexual assaults from
three colleges in 2009
University of Pittsburgh
14, female students - -it reported
1 in
Carnegie Mellon University
female students - tii reported
1 in EHW
Dufresne University
5,? female students - 3 reported
1 in 1, 900
Average: 1 in 1, 35’?
This sum:
There' s nothing that glories rape. There' s no graphic depictions of rape.
There' s not even assjuices about race. All there is is disagreement with
Feminists assertions about rape. In other words, this didn' t fail to meet
community standards because it talked about rape. It failed to meet community
standards because it disagreed with Feminism.
it Rape culture is ********
Agreement with Feminism is now the community standard. No dissent
is acceptable.
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User avatar #198 - baconhero (06/13/2013) [-]
A lot of the comments state that rapes don't get reported often, which is true for the reasons that were given (unwanted trial, humiliation for the victim, reliving a part of life the victim wants to forget). Another reason that one of my professor's told me rapes in colleges are so low is because the campus police urge the victims not to report the crime. If the number went up, the school would look a lot less attractive in the eyes of potential students, resulting in less students and less money.
#283 to #198 - icefall ONLINE (06/13/2013) [-]
Really my University is kinda the other way. They encourage to report rapes, even the ambiguous cases. They made all of us freshies go to rape awareness workshops and there is tons of posters around disencouraging rape.

BTW, in that workshop I learned that rape cases are not always clear. In MOST cases, unreported rapes are usually due to ambiguousness (such as, both were drunk) and girls are unsure whether it was rape or not.
User avatar #346 to #283 - ambiguous **User deleted account** (06/14/2013) [-]
I have never raped anyone! Your allegations are false!
User avatar #447 to #283 - specialone (06/14/2013) [-]
It's rather sad that people have to be discouraged from raping others.

I mean really? Surely most sane people know that rape is vile and I don't know anyone that condones it. Are there other posters discouraging people from discrimination?
#488 to #447 - icefall ONLINE (06/14/2013) [-]
I mean, something I learned in the workshop is that there is misinformation about rape.

Most people, think of "rape" as the violent act of attacking a woman, when in legal terms, rape is when someone commits sexual intercourse without the consent of the other person previous to the intercourse. Meaning, that if you don't hear a YES I WANT TO **** YOU, before sex, you can be convicted of rape. In many rape cases, both the woman and the man are not aware of this thus a perfectly nice person could commit rape without knowing it.

In some aspects, men have less rights when it comes to rape in current law (since most cases rape is done by men). Being drunk is not an excuse for men, but for women it can be used to support the lack of consent. Also, if in a case a women does not want to have sex but does not express it, the man can still be accused of rape as he did not get direct consent. Thus a perfectly nice guy could rape a woman for not having education about the matter. The only way a man can be saved from being convicted is that he has evidential proof that the intercourse was suggested by the woman, and in cases where he can be let go due to lack of evidence (really ambiguous cases such as both being pissed drunk and no witnesses).

Heck, even if the woman enjoys the sex, she can still accuse someone of rape.

tl;dr: I agree that violent rapers are really out of place, but in many rape cases the man is not aware he commited rape as in current law "rape" is sex without previous consent.
#306 to #198 - anon (06/13/2013) [-]
going along with what you said many colleges take on the policy "silence is consent" basically saying like if a girl does not reply it means it "can't" be rape which makes it harder for people to report rape and therefore makes them look better and that my friends is what rape culture is about
#195 - anon (06/13/2013) [-]
I feel I should point out that most cases of rape (75-95% is the current estimate in the UK I believe) do not get reported nor do they occur at college. Also in the UK, a third of girls aged between 13-18 years have experienced sexual violence and 15% of boys 13-18 years, mostly from family members. I agree that it is horrible when women lie about something like that, but I don't like it downplayed when it is a horrible thing happening way too often
#209 to #195 - anon (06/13/2013) [-]
Really? A third? Seems awfully high.
#27 - jjholt (06/13/2013) [-]
sorry but I have to point out that not all rapes get reported.
#456 to #27 - anon (06/14/2013) [-]
Then how in the ever frozen hell do feminists know the "true" statistics, they would have to use the same statistics or............. lie

*GASP*
#468 to #27 - jjholt (06/14/2013) [-]
Relax guys, I'm not agreeing with the feminists here. 1 out of 4 is obviously a way over exaggerated statistic. But I'm just saying 1 in 3,700 is also skewed due to non-reports.
User avatar #476 to #27 - qwarthos (06/14/2013) [-]
50 percent, right? still not close to 1 in 4
#477 to #27 - anon (06/14/2013) [-]
the essence of the message is not the number of rapes, it's about a post being banned because they do not meet community standards... well whose ******* community? they're questioning a highly doubtful statistic, why is that so ******* wrong? and if we stop questioning then we are doomed to a ******* life of conformism
#215 to #27 - anon (06/13/2013) [-]
ya but its not 1 in 4, and besides anything can be considered rape nowadays, just a man casually speaking to a woman can be considered assault or harassment. Those retards would call anything rape
#260 to #27 - anon (06/13/2013) [-]
then they deserve to feel completely used then. if they dont report a rape, might as well call it consensual.
#103 to #27 - jooble (06/13/2013) [-]
sorry but i have to point out the joke is that its no way near the reported "1 in 4" are raped. unless you think there have been thousands and thousands of unreported rapes in these 3 schools.
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User avatar #430 to #27 - brettyoke (06/14/2013) [-]
And not all reported rapes are rape.
User avatar #431 to #430 - brettyoke (06/14/2013) [-]
Sorry, didn't see comment 35.
#485 to #27 - thepink ONLINE (06/14/2013) [-]
plus taking the numbers from just three collages, averaging them together and calling it proof...  These are the strongest of shennanigans   
   
getting the hell out of dodge before feminists or anti feminists devour my soul
plus taking the numbers from just three collages, averaging them together and calling it proof... These are the strongest of shennanigans

getting the hell out of dodge before feminists or anti feminists devour my soul
User avatar #76 to #27 - bothemastaofall (06/13/2013) [-]
Yes. People numbering enough to equate 1/4 women didn't report their rape.
#501 to #27 - anon (06/14/2013) [-]
Not to mention those statistics are just fake. Also I didn't realize there were only three colleges in the US.
#148 to #27 - anon (06/13/2013) [-]
Even if only one in twenty rapes is reported then still only 1 in 94 women are raped. Not condoning this, but the 1 in 4 seems extremely unlikely to the point of ******** . For the 1 in 4 to be correct that would mean only one out of every 450 women that get raped report it.

Seems like a stretch to me.
#353 to #27 - anon (06/14/2013) [-]
In that same sense, you can't say "1 in 4 women get raped before they finish college". That's also assuming that the number of REPORTED accounts of rape to the number of women is truly 1 in 4.

For all we know, it's 2 in 4, or 3 in 4, or even all women getting raped before they finish college. After all, not all cases of rape are reported.

Truth is, whatever statistic we draw our population upon always have a nonresponse sort of bias to them. Regardless, considering all factors, the actual statistics we get should be as true as we possible can get them.

If feminists say "well my friend was raped by she didn't report it", then there's also a bias towards the fact that she could have been lying or exageratting.

TL;DR: statistics about our population are most true when they are driven on legitimately acknowledged observations, therefore the statistics we actually draw from research and surveys are the most true.
#201 to #27 - anon (06/13/2013) [-]
Fair. Then where would these statistics of 1 in 4 coming from, if not from the same metrics of data? The ones where they aren't "all reported".
#269 to #27 - anon (06/13/2013) [-]
You are so right. Obviously 1 in 4 women getting raped is 100% true fact.
User avatar #35 to #27 - mads (06/13/2013) [-]
And not all reported cases are true
#41 to #35 - anon (06/13/2013) [-]
and his statistic is about college rape.

The 1 in 4 women is before they finish college not IN college (i.e. the statistic that op provided can't be used to draw conclusion on the assertion that 1 in 4 women will be raped before she is 22-26 years old )
User avatar #46 to #41 - teranin (06/13/2013) [-]
multiply each of the numbers, lets say by 8 times, to get a number for a woman getting her doctorate's chances of being raped during her college years. I think you'll find that number is incredibly far from 1 in 4, especially if you take into account shifting population from people leaving/arriving at the colleges each year.
#124 to #46 - software (06/13/2013) [-]
you don't really need maths to know its ******** though,
User avatar #130 to #124 - teranin (06/13/2013) [-]
Yeah but the nice thing about math is it's Boolean nature, numbers are either true or untrue and as such are an excellent way of dismantling ******** .
#220 to #41 - anon (06/13/2013) [-]
What the **** ? How are people thumbing him down? This is exactly what is meant by "before they finish college". When you're ******* born you haven't finished college yet. You don't need to start to to have not finished it.

Wow.
#188 - mychemicalfreak (06/13/2013) [-]
Although I see your point, There is the fact that many women do not report rape. Rape victims fear a trial, they feel humiliated having to explain everything that happened, having to relive every humiliating second of the most helpless she has ever felt in her life.  So some would rather just try to forget.The statistics you chose are  only three colleges in a country filled with to the brim with them.  Also, you have the right to not be persecuted in the law. Private companies like facebook act in the public's interest. The public interest, unfortunately for you, is that rape culture does exist, and its an awful thing that must be stopped. And, you forgot, (as well as I , but I'm breaking it deliberately) the number one rule of the internet.   
   
Never post unpopular opinions. Especially on sites like facebook, where girls and women of all ages can see this.   
   
I respect your opinion, I respect your right to have an opinion, but I think you're wrong.
Although I see your point, There is the fact that many women do not report rape. Rape victims fear a trial, they feel humiliated having to explain everything that happened, having to relive every humiliating second of the most helpless she has ever felt in her life. So some would rather just try to forget.The statistics you chose are only three colleges in a country filled with to the brim with them. Also, you have the right to not be persecuted in the law. Private companies like facebook act in the public's interest. The public interest, unfortunately for you, is that rape culture does exist, and its an awful thing that must be stopped. And, you forgot, (as well as I , but I'm breaking it deliberately) the number one rule of the internet.

Never post unpopular opinions. Especially on sites like facebook, where girls and women of all ages can see this.

I respect your opinion, I respect your right to have an opinion, but I think you're wrong.
#527 to #188 - rdobet (06/14/2013) [-]
even still, im pretty sure more than like 5% of rapes get reported.
#211 to #188 - anon (06/13/2013) [-]
Let us say 95% don't report it. That means the actual number is 20 times what is show above. Guess what: that is still a far cry from 1/4. The number is higher than it should be yes. Any number is too high for a thing like rape unless that number is 0. It isn't about rape culture, it is about limiting what people can say because one group doesn't like it. That picture above doesn't even show anything offending. Why should it not be allowed on facebook?


Rule #1 is that you do not talk about /b/.
User avatar #322 to #211 - mychemicalfreak (06/14/2013) [-]
You make fair points. I'll give you that. And yeah, in the end, it's just bad things about bad things.
#341 to #188 - anon (06/14/2013) [-]
The main thing about society and rape that irks me (besides rape itself of course, because that is entirely horrendous) is that if an underaged girl is raped and gets pregnant from that rape, the pregnant underaged rape victim is tormented by people in her town and called a whore even when her much older rapist is in jail for serial child molestation/rape. And the people know how she got pregnant because that is a pretty big news topic for towns but they still graffiti the girl's houses and spit on them for something they had no control over. This happens mostly in the parts of the country where they are pro-life, then they go and punish the young victims for following what they've been told all their lives and keeping the babies. Society irks me a lot sometimes.
User avatar #187 - DisgruntledTomato (06/13/2013) [-]
I took a poo in a hat once, and my friend put it on.
#224 to #187 - jrondeau **User deleted account** (06/13/2013) [-]
Comments like these among 			**********		 are why we browse this site. I salute you sir.
Comments like these among ********** are why we browse this site. I salute you sir.
User avatar #73 - fxremastered (06/13/2013) [-]
1 in 1 fat males are sexually assaulted by their peers every day. Stop moob slapping today!
#121 - anon (06/13/2013) [-]
I hate to be that person but, some girls get raped by their own boyfriends/friends and therefore don't report it. Yeah, some reports of rape are false, but even so, some may be proved false that aren't.
User avatar #133 to #121 - teranin (06/13/2013) [-]
This statistic isn't rape convictions, it's rapes reported. It doesn't matter if they were found guilty or not.
User avatar #173 to #121 - burntretoast (06/13/2013) [-]
roughly 97% of all rapists will go unpunished, it's sad.
#85 - headkicker (06/13/2013) [-]
As much as I hate Feminazis and their 'all men are monsters waiting to crack' standpoint, this example is flawed.

This example only uses reported incidences of rape.
I'm a man, but if I was raped, in the penetrative sense, I wouldn't be so eager to report it.
User avatar #94 to #85 - teranin (06/13/2013) [-]
Yes, but since approximately 41% of reported rapes didn't actually happen, in order for one to achieve the 1 in 4 indicated by feminist theory, in just pittsburgh college there would have had to be 3700 actual rapes out of that population, plus approximately 41% on top of that to account for false rape claims.
#101 to #94 - headkicker (06/13/2013) [-]
Where does that statistic come from?
User avatar #105 to #101 - teranin (06/13/2013) [-]
to be fair it is a subjective statistic that varies greatly between studies, realistically studies bounce (when not massively biased or funded directly by feminist organizations) between 22% (Kelly et al study) and 41% (Jordan study, 2004)
#115 to #105 - headkicker (06/13/2013) [-]
I think it would be fairer to use an average between studies.
I know that rape has become wolf calling among numerous individuals, but I would hate to think that almost half of all reported rapes are false. It's despicable, and I don't believe that humanity is quite that grim.

Anyway, back to the original post;
I don't agree with Facebook's idea to remove the post from people's pages, but I don't believe that the post should be taken as 100% accurate.
It should be taken with a pinch of salt, if anything.
User avatar #118 to #115 - teranin (06/13/2013) [-]
You're right, I should be saying something like "The average between non-biased studies falls somewhere around 30%"
User avatar #127 to #85 - Karibookiller (06/13/2013) [-]
You realize that if it's unreported, it didn't officially happen right? so technically, if it didn't officially happen, then why would any body decide to take any action when it comes to unreported rapes? You can't get the people in charge to do anything until you have real facts. As much as I wish we could just move forward on assumptions, we can't.
#132 to #127 - headkicker (06/13/2013) [-]
Not Officially Happening =/= Not Actually Happening

Not being reported doesn't mean anything.
If anything; lack of reporting rape enforces the idea of 'rape culture', which I think is a load of crap by the way.
It implies that reporting rape is seen as a negative thing to do, which means that the majority condones it. Which we all, as logical people, know is a load of **** .
User avatar #136 to #85 - osimonmagus (06/13/2013) [-]
If people don't report it then they shouldn't be pissed off when no one takes them seriously because the numbers don't add up.
#165 to #136 - anon (06/13/2013) [-]
You don't understand how truly humiliating the whole experience is. It's sick and degrading in every sense as well as completely terrifying. I only told my doctor a few weeks later because I was scared I'd caught something and was in a lot of pain. It was the single most difficult thing I've done in my life, and the first time I really accepted that it happened. Three years later and I still can't really accept it and I haven't been able to have a relationship with anyone. Sorry for the paragraph, but it feels liberating posting as anon.
User avatar #170 to #165 - osimonmagus (06/13/2013) [-]
Still, you should have reported it. Yeah, it's humiliating, I could only imagine. I was ****** with when I was like 4 but I don't remember it and the thought of it never bothered me. For that, I am thankful. But if you don't take it upon yourself to report it then what do you expect to be done about it? You think your tears are going to stop it? You think praying and begging is going to stop it? No. You know what just might? Reporting it and making sure the guy doesn't do it to someone else. This isn't a pitty party. No one cares about your suffering. You have to do it for yourself instead of rolling around like a cry baby. That goes for anything in life.
#177 to #170 - anon (06/13/2013) [-]
And you think I didn't feel guilty? I still hate myself for not reporting it, I feel guilt that it could have happened to someone else. I used to wonder why people didn't report it, but until you've been through something like that yourself you don't know how you'll act.
User avatar #179 to #177 - osimonmagus (06/13/2013) [-]
And you should feel guilty for not reporting it. Now, you will never know the feeling of seeing that man/woman in court being charged and sentenced. Who knows, that could have helped your healing. Tell me this, is the guilt of knowing he's still out there and could have abused other people worse than the 'embarrassment' that you would have not sustained by reporting him? The best thing you can do now is tell others not to make the same mistake you did of not reporting it. You see? How can you defend those who can't make the decision to not report it after what you have been through and what you have felt?
#189 to #179 - anon (06/13/2013) [-]
I'm not defending my decision, it was wrong, but I'm trying to explain to you why people might act the way they do. Even if someone does manage to overcome those problems, there's still the huge culture of stupid women who falsely accuse people of it, as well as communities shunning people for reporting someone. It's not as simple as going to the police and telling someone.
User avatar #192 to #189 - osimonmagus (06/13/2013) [-]
Instead of explaining why people don't report it you should be kicking them in the jaw and showing them what their fear and cowardice cause. There is a point where you have to stop hugging someone and start kicking them in the ass.
User avatar #191 to #189 - osimonmagus (06/13/2013) [-]
So you're saying that your appearance to your community is more important than the fact that you just got raped? Then how big of a deal is being raped if you're still so vain to think, "Well, I really don't want Miss Whatshernamewhoidon'ttalkto to look at me wrong while I'm walking down the street"? People need to realize that by not reporting their rape is more effective at keeping it a problem than protesting is hindering it. People need to get their ******* priorities straight.
#193 to #191 - anon (06/13/2013) [-]
Or having bricks thrown through your windows? having your car damaged? people throwing dog **** over your garden fence? your younger siblings being bullied in school? This all happened to a girl a few streets over from me. You know nothing.
User avatar #194 to #193 - osimonmagus (06/13/2013) [-]
Are you doing something about? Have you acted against the people harassing others? Were they really raped or was it falsely accused? What's the story? Do you even know the real story? I bet you don't. I bet you haven't done anything about it.
#328 to #194 - whatacrackinjoke (06/14/2013) [-]
You're treating a victim like a villain. Honestly, I've never seen someone so insensitive.

Of course reporting is the logic thing to do. But as humans, we aren't always logical. Instead of just stamping your feet and demanding that victims report rape, you really need to think about the reasons behind their choosing not to. I really don't buy into this "rape culture" thing but you have to admit that it is still somewhat of a taboo subject. I don't mean that in the sense that it's completely hushed and no-one ever talks about it, but maybe people don't treat it as seriously as they should.
User avatar #330 to #328 - osimonmagus (06/14/2013) [-]
>people don't treat it as serious as they should
Yes, exactly. Rape victims should take it serious enough to report it.
#334 to #330 - whatacrackinjoke (06/14/2013) [-]
You think they don't take it seriously? You think they're going to go through that kind of pain and humiliation and then just laugh it off? Of course reporting it is useful but you're still ignoring the core issue - WHY they don't report it. You're just looking at the surface of the problem rather than the cause of it.
User avatar #338 to #334 - osimonmagus (06/14/2013) [-]
They don't due to their own selfishness. They are letting someone willingly get away with a crime due to their fear of being looked down upon. That's cowardly. The rapist could go off and harm someone else just as bad because a victim didn't report it.
#342 to #338 - whatacrackinjoke (06/14/2013) [-]
That's just victim blaming. Someone suffers an attack that could no doubt hurt them both physically and psychologically, short term AND long term, and you're sitting there saying they're selfish because they were afraid to report it? What if they're not believed? What if their attacker finds out? What if they're ridiculed by their friends/families? What if they're afraid of trial, sitting there giving testimony? It's not selfish to be scared.
User avatar #352 to #342 - osimonmagus (06/14/2013) [-]
Everyone is scared! They're not selfish because you're scared, they're selfish because they're cowards. What's crying in your room and rolling around in self pitty going to do? Not a goddamn thing, so get the **** out there, show a little courage, and try to do all that you can to try and get something done. If they don't then they are doing absolutely nothing to help themselves or anyone else. They are the worst type of people. They know the trauma, they know the pain, and still they do nothing to try and save another person from it. No, instead of being strong and trying to do something they let a rapist run free to cause others hurt.
#368 to #352 - whatacrackinjoke (06/14/2013) [-]
Jesus. The worst type of people? Worse than the rapists?

Yes they know the trauma, yes they know the pain and no-one's pretending that they would want that kind of pain inflicted on someone else. The point is that there's so many reasons they wouldn't want to report it. Imagine a person DOES report it. They point out a suspect. That suspect is brought in for questioning and of course they know who's reported it. What happens if they're not convicted? That victim has reported the crime and the rapist is still out there - knowing that they've been reported. And this IS relevant - I only did a quick search so it's not as recent/representative as it could be, but here's a site showing that 56% of REPORTED rapes in California go unsolved ( You need to login to view this link ). Just let that sink into your head. 56% of the cases that were reported are still unsolved. That's absolutely ridiculous. Think about how much trauma the victim went through - so they wouldn't be "selfish" - and their attacker is still out there. Those are figures that victims have to face, and why would they want to report a crime if they're not guranteed safety for themselves (or anyone else) afterwards?
User avatar #369 to #368 - osimonmagus (06/14/2013) [-]
And it's still not worse than doing absolutely nothing. And yes, someone who sits idly by and lets someone get away with a crime is just as bad as the criminal themselves.
#371 to #369 - whatacrackinjoke (06/14/2013) [-]
It's worse for them. I can't believe how much you're disregarding the victims here.

And let me just make this clear. You are saying that the victim is as bad as the rapist? Someone who is raped, humiliated, hurt both physically and mentally, is as bad as the person that did that to them because they didn't say it happened? Like I said, I understand why reporting is important but you're actually saying they're as bad as their attackers? You're disgusting.
User avatar #383 to #371 - osimonmagus (06/14/2013) [-]
At least those who step up and try to get someone persecuted are trying to do the right thing regardless of if they get away or not THEY TRIED.
Your not going to have enough blood for yourself if that bleeding heart of yours keeps pouring to those who don't need nor deserve it.
#389 to #383 - whatacrackinjoke (06/14/2013) [-]
"Bleeding heart" yeah it's called empathising. Try it sometime instead of shaming the victims for acting like victims. I'm not expecting every victim of rape to sit in the corner of the room and cry for the rest of their life, but I can definitely see why they wouldn't want to report such a traumatic event. No-one's a coward for taking their time to deal with trauma, and no-one's a coward for being ashamed/unsure/afraid of something like that. I don't think they SHOULD have to feel humiliated or anything like that - it's purely the fault of the attacker - but the fact is that it happens, and that has to be dealt with before you can sit here and make it sound like the biggest problem with rape is that it's not reported.
#522 to #383 - thecommittee (06/14/2013) [-]
You don't need to understand why someone wouldn't report a rape, or to agree with them. You need to understand that there is something going on that you are not getting. Personally, If i where raped(I am a guy by the way), could not conceive of a reason not to report it, but I get that some people have different views and that no matter what I will not understand them, but at the very least I can accept them.
User avatar #376 to #371 - osimonmagus (06/14/2013) [-]
They are willing to let that criminal who did all of that to them go and harm someone else the same way. Yeah, they're pretty disgusting too.
#379 to #376 - whatacrackinjoke (06/14/2013) [-]
They didn't perform the act. I'm going to go out on a limb and say they're not going to do it to anyone else either. They don't have personal control over the criminal. How many times do I need to say that they can report a criminal and the criminal still walks free? Are they still disgusting then? Because you've made it clear that their worth is based on the results of their actions.
#474 to #376 - anon (06/14/2013) [-]
Wow. Could you HONESTLY say that you would report it if it happened? You could relive the worst moment of your life for everybody to hear? Seriously? I call ******** .
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User avatar #246 to #194 - TheCynic (06/13/2013) [-]
It's not that easy. A lot of women blame themselves and go through a long period of self loathing. They feel like it was their fault. And even if they did report it, the entire court would be about whether or not she was "asking for it" and calling her a whore.

Unless you've been raped, it isn't something you judge.
#147 to #136 - headkicker (06/13/2013) [-]
Witnessing the effects of rape on somebody first hand (as in: I personally knew somebody who was raped), rape can be hard to come to terms with.

Think about it; if somebody raped you, penetrated you against your will, would you want to report it?
Really?
Would you even want to face it by saying it out loud to yourself, let alone to a stranger?

Reporting rape is 100% the right way about dealing with it, or at least the first step, but it is not an easy step to make.
User avatar #152 to #147 - osimonmagus (06/13/2013) [-]
No choice is easy. Yeah, its hard. But if you're going to preach and cheer about how no one recognizes rape culture and you didn't report your rape then you're a hypocritical tool.
#156 to #152 - headkicker (06/13/2013) [-]
I agree with that.
If you believe in a cause (i.e. ending rape culture) then you need to step up.

No cause was ever one by people hoping really hard.
Even if this particular cause, in my eyes, is ******** .
User avatar #332 to #156 - osimonmagus (06/14/2013) [-]
I think it's funny that the same people who thumbed you up, thumbed me down, after you said you agreed. Sheeple.
User avatar #159 to #156 - osimonmagus (06/13/2013) [-]
*won, easy mistake.
The thing is people are perfectly aware of rape. They just don't care.
#162 to #159 - headkicker (06/13/2013) [-]
I don't think it's that people don't care.
I think it's more that there's not much more that people can do.
We're educated, rightly so, through all our lives that rape is a wicked act, that it should be reported, and that the victims are not to blame.
We charge people who commit these acts as a criminal, justifiably so, and we offer counselling and aid to the victims.
I personally cannot see much more that can be done about the problem without descending dangerously into fascist control machine territory.
User avatar #167 to #162 - osimonmagus (06/13/2013) [-]
I just see it as women trying to stop something that, for the majority, men don't care about. They are like spoiled children. They expect to be taken seriously, they expect to be heard, and the expect everyone to follow them into a hive minded pseudo-intellectual society. When people look past them they get pissed off and as soon as that happens they start becoming hypocrites. Rape is terrible, yes, but no one is interested in it. If you ask me, there is more injustice with women being persecuted for rape than there is a problem with women actually being raped.
#176 to #167 - headkicker (06/13/2013) [-]
Personal apathy does not translate into it not being an issue worth pursuing anymore.
Rape culture as an idea is stupid, unrealistic and just objectively wrong, and the people who are supporting it are over-reacting. This is justifiable if the supporter does happen to be a genuine victim of rape.

Rape is still a horrible crime however, and steps must still be made to prevent it and heal those that suffer for it.
Apathy about rape, about any crime, is worst than having an unpopular opinion about rape. Taking a side, intelligently, at least forces you to consider the issues.
Persecution of rape victims is indeed an awful crime, and I would agree that it is worse than the act itself, but that does not mean that rape in and of itself is unimportant.
User avatar #180 to #176 - osimonmagus (06/13/2013) [-]
I concur.
#157 to #156 - headkicker (06/13/2013) [-]
*won, not one.

Good job brain.
#2 - guu (06/13/2013) [-]
"Not even any jokes about rape."

Open your eyes, ******* . They're everywhere. They're all laughing at you.
User avatar #163 to #2 - pappathethird (06/13/2013) [-]
that's my avatar

now that you asked
#355 to #2 - anon (06/14/2013) [-]
no jokes (in the picture) about rape
User avatar #3 to #2 - Riukanojutsu (06/13/2013) [-]
he was talking about the post itself.

as in "stop bitchin' i aint making a joke about rape, im talking about it."
the post wasnt made for FJ.
#4 to #3 - guu (06/13/2013) [-]
Makes much more sense.
#72 to #4 - anon (06/13/2013) [-]
Yeah, the Top 85% of the post was a post on facebook (which apparently was removed) and the text at the bottom is talking about how stupid it was to be removed.
#23 - maddboiy (06/13/2013) [-]
lets up that number then
#233 to #23 - anon (06/13/2013) [-]
Yes, post a joke about going out and raping women on content that is saying that rape culture is ******** . A very clever way to dispute the claims of the OP.

Good job, idiot.
#349 to #233 - anon (06/14/2013) [-]
implying op was correct on all of the points he made
User avatar #25 to #23 - bandoslootshare (06/13/2013) [-]
for a moment i thought you ment the number of feminist overlords on facebook.. because i actually read the whole thing -.-
#291 - superafromanxd (06/13/2013) [-]
its starting.....ITS STARTING
#481 - anon (06/14/2013) [-]
You know, you can't really create realistic data if the majority of people who have been raped are too ashamed to report it.
User avatar #484 to #481 - reginleif (06/14/2013) [-]
so guessing is better? Why even have a number if you can't realistically measure it?
User avatar #520 to #481 - durkadurka ONLINE (06/14/2013) [-]
Yes, but there's no way the data is anywhere near 25%.
#435 - bigpear (06/14/2013) [-]
What no rape jokes? I guess ill have to force some.
#278 - slimeywaffles (06/13/2013) [-]
It's funny how these people are discussing this issue when they don't even get the reality of it. Consider that not all rapes are reported: www.rainn.org/get-information/statistics/reporting-rates   
Also consider how colleges cover up rape cases in order to protect reputation: www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/15/yale-clery-act_n_3280195.html
It's funny how these people are discussing this issue when they don't even get the reality of it. Consider that not all rapes are reported: www.rainn.org/get-information/statistics/reporting-rates
Also consider how colleges cover up rape cases in order to protect reputation: www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/15/yale-clery-act_n_3280195.html
User avatar #405 - meganinja ONLINE (06/14/2013) [-]
Along with what everybody else is saying about women not reporting rape, there are also 2 flaws with your example. First off, you only used three specific colleges, which makes me suspiscious about whether you may have used the ones with lower rape figures, or if they were the only colleges with figures available.

Also, when it said "by the time they finish college", I don't think it meant during their college career, I think it meant from the time they're born to the time they're finished with college.

Also your profanity may have been the reason it was taken off Facebook. You sound like a paranoid conspiracy theorist that thinks that everything that happens points toward feminists dominating our society. No. Only feminazis agree with feminazis, nobody else actually takes them very seriously.
User avatar #411 to #405 - meganinja ONLINE (06/14/2013) [-]
Also what a company does not allow you to say on their website is not your free speech being taken away. Companies can not be forced to let you say something using their company as a medium for your speech.

Sorry if I sound butthurt, i'm not, but you have a horrible argument.
User avatar #292 - ThatsSoFunnyHeHe (06/13/2013) [-]
"There aren't any jokes about rape"
Here we go.

Some random woman stopped me in the street today and started telling me a joke. It had all the ingredients of a good joke: child abuse; incestual rape; tears and suffering; but I didn't understand the punchline. Something about $2 a month?

I called that Rape Advice Line earlier today.
Unfortunately, it's only for victims.

If a tree falls in a forest and no one hears it, does this mean I have found the perfect rape and murder location?

I've worked out why I often cry after sex ... that's the same knife I use for the onions!
User avatar #318 to #292 - tigersstripes (06/13/2013) [-]
i dont get the first one
User avatar #320 to #318 - ThatsSoFunnyHeHe (06/13/2013) [-]
She's asking for donations for an abused and raped child (possibly herself)
The other person thinks it's a joke, and a joke with potential because it's about rape and child abuse.
#321 to #320 - tigersstripes (06/14/2013) [-]
Oh, thanks. I'm just a little slow sometimes..........
#294 to #292 - teranin (06/13/2013) [-]
Dude, how are you misreading this? It's saying that THIS PICTURE doesn't contain any jokes about rape, not taht none exist... FFS
User avatar #295 to #294 - ThatsSoFunnyHeHe (06/13/2013) [-]
Oh, I thought the paragraph at the bottom was being general, saying that nothing glorifies rape and such.
#223 - acask (06/13/2013) [-]
clearly not enough sloths in the area
User avatar #509 - alreadyexiststho (06/14/2013) [-]
I feel like the poster was just misunderstood. The statistics he used were reported rapes...many women who are sexually abused don't report to authorities.
User avatar #526 to #509 - zxmongoose (06/14/2013) [-]
I highly doubt that enough rapes go unreported to bring a statistic from 1 in 1877 to 1 in 4 though.
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