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#245 - krizzah (06/13/2013) [-]
Magic *snort* *snort*

- Rowan Atkinson
#136 - brettyoke ONLINE (06/13/2013) [-]
It's also my freedom to go up to people and tell them that any belief and idea they have is stupid and they're stupid.

But that's not a smart thing to do, now is it?
User avatar #312 to #136 - hankmccoy (06/13/2013) [-]
it depends on what you're trying to accomplish. it can be an effective way to start a ********* .
User avatar #138 to #136 - emptysuperman ONLINE (06/13/2013) [-]
People should have the right to do stupid things, so long as it doesn't restrict anyone else's freedom.
User avatar #140 to #138 - brettyoke ONLINE (06/13/2013) [-]
Yes, but why do it. Where are you getting in life by going around in everybody's face and spewing hatred towards them like a gigantic asshole?
User avatar #155 to #140 - tylertortured (06/13/2013) [-]
You are getting on youtube obviously, mainly the comment section
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User avatar #237 to #138 - donutsection (06/13/2013) [-]
Of course, otherwise blondes wouldn't be getting laid, right.



RIGHT?

#1 - teranin ONLINE (06/12/2013) [-]
Tell 'em Mr. Bean
#6 to #1 - ninjamyles **User deleted account** (06/12/2013) [-]
you do know Rowan atkinson is British right?
User avatar #7 to #6 - teranin ONLINE (06/12/2013) [-]
Yes, obviously. I meant it more that he was expressing an ideal of freedom...
#121 to #6 - anon (06/13/2013) [-]
**** does that have to do with anything? Because of the eagle? Put your stupid nationalism to the side for once.
#33 to #6 - sanguinesolitude (06/12/2013) [-]
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America beat england in war, then we saved you from the germans twice. You are basically our little brother we used to pick on but now protect from bullies.
User avatar #38 to #33 - komandantmirkoo (06/12/2013) [-]
French* beat england in the war (they provided you with weapons and equipment)

you joined ww1 in 1917. when russia backed out due to bolshevik revolution. and no.. you didn't won ww2 all by yourself either. the soviet union had 4x bigger battles and operations.
#39 to #38 - sanguinesolitude (06/12/2013) [-]
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>implying facts will sway the freedomness of my americanity
User avatar #53 to #39 - doctorgolgo (06/12/2013) [-]
*Americanicity
User avatar #54 to #53 - sanguinesolitude (06/12/2013) [-]
dont tell me how to spell, i speak american good goddamnit
User avatar #55 to #54 - doctorgolgo (06/12/2013) [-]
LOLed. +1 for you, good sir!
#58 to #55 - sanguinesolitude (06/13/2013) [-]
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thank you for understanding that that was intentional
#99 to #39 - propanex (06/13/2013) [-]
hehehehahaha
hehehehahaha
User avatar #227 to #38 - sausydangles (06/13/2013) [-]
Just going to say one thing about WWII would people have really wanted the russians to be the ones to liberate all of Europe? I mean, could you imagine the number of deaths both civilians and soldiers. Plus, post-war Europe would have been a nightmare
#34 to #33 - anon (06/12/2013) [-]
britain is not just England. And remember the size of britain to the US.

if the UK had the size and population of america you would sit your fat asses down!
User avatar #36 to #34 - sanguinesolitude (06/12/2013) [-]
yeah i know britain includes scottland, n ireland, and wales... which i'm sure would have changed the course of the war...

Ifs dont mean **** . Also you are fast catching up to us in obesity. Already are the number 7 fattest country in the developed world.
User avatar #98 to #33 - propanex (06/13/2013) [-]
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
#22 - niggagary (06/12/2013) [-]
But there's also a line between criticizing someone's religion and being a total dick about it.
But there's also a line between criticizing someone's religion and being a total dick about it.
#141 to #22 - souleatingbunnies (06/13/2013) [-]
that doesnt mean you should be arrested for being a dick.
#173 to #22 - nightstar (06/13/2013) [-]
Once you create a line, you give someone the power to decide where that line is.

And that is a dangerous game.
User avatar #211 to #22 - memeinmycoffee (06/13/2013) [-]
Both should be legal, though.
User avatar #131 to #22 - jedawg (06/13/2013) [-]
Most people see criticism on religion as being a dick. Most of the time they really aren't being dicks.
User avatar #274 to #22 - glasgowrangers (06/13/2013) [-]
you have the right to be a dick about it if you want though
User avatar #297 to #22 - pappathethird (06/13/2013) [-]
But how are you gonna make a law about that
User avatar #220 to #22 - arsenalthegunners (06/13/2013) [-]
Tell me if u please, how many atheists have blown up 2 towers with planes, in the name of being non-religious/atheist? I once believed some crap of religious stuff, but now I only believe in humanity.
User avatar #256 to #220 - srapture (06/13/2013) [-]
The qur'an doesn't preach hate and it seems unfair for people to persecute all Muslims for the individuals' acts of terrorist, but they can't blame it on anyone but those terrorists. They're sort of like the kids who are still throwing **** around the room when the teacher says "If you don't stop that, the whole class is staying here into break time." The annoying thing is, nothing is going to be done about it because if you even identify the fact that there is a link between the terrorists' attacks and their religion, you will just have racist yelled in your face as people bury their heads in the sand and hope the issue goes away on it's own.
It is becoming even more of a problem in the UK. It's not just terrorism. There are videos of groups of Muslims approaching individuals or smaller groups at night, and saying "This is a Muslim area. We have Shari'ah law here. You're going to have to give us your alcohol.". Of course, at night time, when you're on your own or there is only 2 of you, you can't say the obvious things like "That's your law. You have to follow that. I don't." because these guys are pretty threatening. There are no Muslim areas in the UK. There are no Christian areas in the UK. People are free to do what they like within our law.
If something isn't properly done about this problem, it WILL get worse. However, nothing will be done, because anyone who speaks up is labelled a racist. It doesn't help the matter that the EDL is full of slaphead idiots.
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User avatar #289 to #270 - symustafa (06/13/2013) [-]
Seriously, where do you get this? For all we know this could be out of context and badly translated. You can't completely translate Arabic to English because it's complicated. All those quotes you see online? Those are just interpretations. And some came from people with Islamophobia.

Sheesh, after 9/11, people are finding more and more reasons to hate Muslims. I'm annoyed because we are giving Muslims reason to hate us, in turn making us hate them more. Its this constant back and forth bickering that's not fixing things, it's expanding the problem and making it worse for everyone. Sheesh.....
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User avatar #341 to #256 - arsenalthegunners (06/13/2013) [-]
ok, so ALL OVER QURAN SAYS WE WILL KILL INFIDELS AND **** , AND IT IS NOT HATRED?
User avatar #342 to #341 - srapture (06/14/2013) [-]
If you can show me the multiple lines you speak of that say "We will kill infidels and **** " in the Qur'an, I will eat my hat.
Also, I'm an atheist myself, and a rather right-wing one at that, but I'm not an idiot like you. You're just blindly preaching hatred about a religion you know nothing about because a very small minority of Muslims are terrorists. The KKK is a Christian organisation, but you wouldn't say that all Christians are all racists, would you? The same principles apply.
Video related. It's you. youtu.be/kjuNuqIev8M
User avatar #343 to #342 - arsenalthegunners (06/14/2013) [-]
فَإِذَا انْسَلَخَ الْأَشْهُرُ الْحُرُمُ فَاقْتُلُوا الْمُشْرِكينَ حَيْثُ وَجَدْتُمُوهُمْ وَ خُذُوهُمْ وَ احْصُرُوهُمْ وَ اقْعُدُوا لَهُمْ كُلَّ مَرْصَدٍ فَإِنْ تابُوا وَ أَقامُوا الصَّلاةَ وَ آتَوُا الزَّكاةَ فَخَلُّوا سَبيلَهُمْ إِنَّ اللَّهَ غَفُورٌ رَحيمٌ
quran.com/9
number (verse) 5
eat your hat, NOW
User avatar #344 to #343 - srapture (06/14/2013) [-]
Well, perhaps google translate is a little too rusty on this stuff, but it didn't come out with "We will kill the infidels and **** ". Also, you said "All over the Qur'an". That's one reference you've made.
#346 to #344 - arsenalthegunners (06/14/2013) [-]
There is even more if you want some:   
وَالسَّارِقُ وَالسَّارِقَةُ فَاقْطَعُواْ أَيْدِيَهُمَا جَزَاء بِمَا كَسَبَا نَكَالاً مِّنَ اللّهِ وَاللّهُ عَزِيزٌ حَكِيمٌ.   
quran.com/5   
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يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُواْ إِنَّمَا الْمُشْرِكُونَ نَجَسٌ فَلاَ يَقْرَبُواْ الْمَسْجِدَ الْحَرَامَ بَعْدَ عَامِهِمْ هَـذَا وَإِنْ خِفْتُمْ عَيْلَةً فَسَوْفَ يُغْنِيكُمُ اللّهُ مِن فَضْلِهِ إِن شَاء إِنَّ اللّهَ عَلِيمٌ حَكِيمٌ.   
quran.com/9   
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 MORE? I HAVE A 			****		 TON
There is even more if you want some:
وَالسَّارِقُ وَالسَّارِقَةُ فَاقْطَعُواْ أَيْدِيَهُمَا جَزَاء بِمَا كَسَبَا نَكَالاً مِّنَ اللّهِ وَاللّهُ عَزِيزٌ حَكِيمٌ.
quran.com/5
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يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُواْ إِنَّمَا الْمُشْرِكُونَ نَجَسٌ فَلاَ يَقْرَبُواْ الْمَسْجِدَ الْحَرَامَ بَعْدَ عَامِهِمْ هَـذَا وَإِنْ خِفْتُمْ عَيْلَةً فَسَوْفَ يُغْنِيكُمُ اللّهُ مِن فَضْلِهِ إِن شَاء إِنَّ اللّهَ عَلِيمٌ حَكِيمٌ.
quran.com/9
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MORE? I HAVE A **** TON
User avatar #345 to #344 - arsenalthegunners (06/14/2013) [-]
You want more? here:
يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُواْ قَاتِلُواْ الَّذِينَ يَلُونَكُم مِّنَ الْكُفَّارِ وَلِيَجِدُواْ فِيكُمْ غِلْظَةً وَاعْلَمُواْ أَنَّ اللّهَ مَعَ الْمُتَّقِينَ.
quran.com/9
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فَإِذا لَقِيتُمُ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا فَضَرْبَ الرِّقَابِ حَتَّى إِذَا أَثْخَنتُمُوهُمْ فَشُدُّوا الْوَثَاقَ فَإِمَّا مَنًّا بَعْدُ وَإِمَّا فِدَاء حَتَّى تَضَعَ الْحَرْبُ أَوْزَارَهَا ذَلِكَ وَلَوْ يَشَاء اللَّهُ لَانتَصَرَ مِنْهُمْ وَلَكِن لِّيَبْلُوَ بَعْضَكُم بِبَعْضٍ وَالَّذِينَ قُتِلُوا فِي سَبِيلِ اللَّهِ فَلَن يُضِلَّ أَعْمَالَهُمْ.
quran.com/47
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وَقَاتِلُوهُمْ حَتَّى لاَ تَكُونَ فِتْنَةٌ وَيَكُونَ الدِّينُ كُلُّهُ لِلّه فَإِنِ انتَهَوْاْ فَإِنَّ اللّهَ بِمَا يَعْمَلُونَ بَصِيرٌ .
quran.com/8
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مَلْعُونِينَ أَيْنَمَا ثُقِفُوا أُخِذُوا وَقُتِّلُوا تَقْتِيلًا.
quran.com/33
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إِنَّمَا جَزَاء الَّذِينَ يُحَارِبُونَ اللّهَ وَرَسُولَهُ وَيَسْعَوْنَ فِي الأَرْضِ فَسَادًا أَن يُقَتَّلُواْ أَوْ يُصَلَّبُواْ أَوْ تُقَطَّعَ أَيْدِيهِمْ وَأَرْجُلُهُم مِّنْ خِلافٍ أَوْ يُنفَوْاْ مِنَ الأَرْضِ ذَلِكَ لَهُمْ خِزْيٌ فِي الدُّنْيَا وَلَهُمْ فِي الآخِرَةِ عَذَابٌ عَظِيمٌ.
quran.com/5
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User avatar #347 to #345 - srapture (06/14/2013) [-]
Can I just throw this out there. Why the hell are you giving me quotes in Arabic? What makes you think I can read that? How many funnyjunkers do you know that speak Arabic? Surely there are sites which have the Qur'an in English.
#348 to #347 - arsenalthegunners (06/14/2013) [-]
I GAVE U A LINK GO THERE FIND THE VERSE AND READ ITS OFFICIAL TRANSLATION
I GAVE U A LINK GO THERE FIND THE VERSE AND READ ITS OFFICIAL TRANSLATION
User avatar #349 to #348 - srapture (06/14/2013) [-]
So you did. I personally have never had reason to read the entire Qur'an. Have you found these quotes at some point in the past, googled these kinds of examples, or is it actually littered with this stuff?
I see your point either way. Their book is... pretty damn intolerant of everyone else. I concede defeat. There are plenty of kind Muslims though, and I'm sure as many of them ignore those lines as Christians ignore the leviticus verses that say things like "You can't wear blends of cotton and linen. It's a sin" or something of the sort.
#350 to #349 - arsenalthegunners (06/14/2013) [-]
Wow, you are actually the first person who proves to be wrong actually accepts it
Wow, you are actually the first person who proves to be wrong actually accepts it
User avatar #351 to #350 - srapture (06/14/2013) [-]
Well, it isn't really arguable at this point. I was, and really still am, ignorant on the matter. As far as I know, most of them that have integrated into our society are good people. I do try to see the good in everyone, but when such an influential source of evil is shown to me, it clear that it isn't always that simple.
Anyway, I shall now thumb all of your comments up as a sign of good will. Thank you for teaching me today.
#335 to #220 - anon (06/13/2013) [-]
Well, there's the war in Iraq, the Vietnam War, Korean, etc. Not to mention the Boston bombing, Boston Massacre, etc. which had non-religous, and therefore by, definition atheist reasoning.
User avatar #340 to #335 - arsenalthegunners (06/13/2013) [-]
oh ok, so basically if u kill people and don't believe in god or anything, it is in the name of atheism
#222 to #220 - niggagary (06/13/2013) [-]
If you believe in humanity, than wouldn't it not matter what religion they were? I'm sure those terrorists were dicks. I'm not sure if you are trying to prove my point or not?
If you believe in humanity, than wouldn't it not matter what religion they were? I'm sure those terrorists were dicks. I'm not sure if you are trying to prove my point or not?
User avatar #223 to #222 - arsenalthegunners (06/13/2013) [-]
both proving it and not proving it, I am confused as well, trust me.
You see religious people like terrorists and mullahs and fathers and etc. Then you have the good people who are religious but don't give a **** about others or criticize others or shove their opinion down our throat.
Regardless of what I just said, your point is true. However you CANNOT WILL NOT AND SHOULD NOT CRITICIZE THESE IDEAS IN FRONT OF ANY RELIGIOUS PEOPLE, 90% OF THEM WILL DO SOMETHING TO YOU.
you can try though
User avatar #330 to #222 - srapture (06/13/2013) [-]
I completely agree. It's not the religion's fault. The religion is not sentient. It's not the fault of multiple other Muslims, but if you ask any of these people why they do it, they would tell you it's "for the glory of Allah" or something of the sort. The religion does not support the terrorism. It's people that do. Imams spread this hate and make out that it is right. It's a bit like the 9/11 conspiracy theories. The majority who hear it think "Well, that's just silly" and ignore it, but some people are easily lead astray and gullible. It would do no good to persecute Muslims for the actions of the few, but these terrorists are coming out of Muslim communities, and they're not getting their ideals out of thin air. They're being taught to them. These people are being misled and something needs to be done about it. We need to work with Muslims to stop all attacks, including intolerant attacks against them.
I'm sorry about the chunk of words. I'm not so good with paragraphs. Never certain where to separate it.
User avatar #47 to #22 - Sethorein ONLINE (06/12/2013) [-]
You're allowed to be a dick... It's in the constitution!
#73 to #47 - lordraine ONLINE (06/13/2013) [-]
This entire point is about being a dick. You're allowed to be a dick because it's not illegal. No one is arguing that. The argument is that people are saying you're allowed to be a dick just because you believe you're right and someone else is wrong.

No. You aren't. That's called "being rude." See also: Jackass

Being an asshole is never illegal. It's also never okay. You shouldn't. Even if you are right, instead of just having a different opinion, it only serves to undermine your point. There is no value in doing so beyond trying to bolster your own ego by stomping on someone else.
User avatar #74 to #73 - Sethorein ONLINE (06/13/2013) [-]
But you ARE allowed.
#77 to #74 - lordraine ONLINE (06/13/2013) [-]
If you want to be an annoying waste-of-space cuntstain on the fabric of society, sure. You're also allowed to YOLO and like your own status updates.
User avatar #79 to #77 - Sethorein ONLINE (06/13/2013) [-]
Yup. So whiny cunts like you can stew and fume as much as you want. Freedom sure is great!
User avatar #108 to #73 - animalsgreenberet (06/13/2013) [-]
that's just it though, it's not about being a dick. it's about where are we drawing the line. that bill was going to make it ILLEGAL to criticize religion. but if we can't criticize religion, then you can't criticize my membership in the church of the flying spaghetti monster. and there is a point to it. if we continue to waste our time on stupidity (and i'm not saying religion is stupid) how are we supposed to advance in society?
User avatar #110 to #22 - missrainbowdash (06/13/2013) [-]
religions is literally about believing that anyone who doesn't have an exact carbon copy of your believes will go to hell, be as much of a dick as you want to religious people.
User avatar #163 to #110 - emrakul (06/13/2013) [-]
I can think of plenty of religions that are in no way like that.
User avatar #190 to #163 - missrainbowdash (06/13/2013) [-]
98% of religions are like that though, or rather 98% of religious people, since abrahamic religions make up a massive potion of religious folks, im ok with Buddhism/Taoism/Confucianism.
User avatar #191 to #190 - emrakul (06/13/2013) [-]
I'm a Catholic, I believe our Pope recently mentioned that actions are far more important than faith. Just because there are a lot of intolerant Christians does not mean that we are all like that.
User avatar #194 to #191 - missrainbowdash (06/13/2013) [-]
your current pope is a savory one, however the Vatican strongly disagrees with him
User avatar #196 to #194 - emrakul (06/13/2013) [-]
not sure exactly what you mean by "the Vatican", and as far as I know Francis is just putting emphasis on things originally said during John Paul II's term forty years ago.
User avatar #200 to #199 - emrakul (06/13/2013) [-]
Fair enough. I'm still choosing to go with the Pope rather than some anonymous "Vatican" on this one.
#236 to #200 - anon (06/13/2013) [-]
They aren't anonymous. If you went to the Vatican and asked the people there they would most likely tell you their opinion. I doubt it's a secret.
#156 to #110 - anon (06/13/2013) [-]
Most people who are religious aren't like what you said; it's only the extremists.
#117 to #22 - cooltrainergill (06/13/2013) [-]
I enjoy his comedy, but I have to admit Ricky Gervais is one of those guys.
#221 to #22 - rhc (06/13/2013) [-]
you can't have a law against being a dick.
you can't have a law against being a dick.
#260 to #221 - anon (06/13/2013) [-]
We have a law in Denmark about insulting other people in public. That includes insulting them for their religion aswell.
#276 to #260 - ababollere (06/13/2013) [-]
No we don't?
User avatar #309 to #260 - hankmccoy (06/13/2013) [-]
i bet people still get insulted in Denmark though
#29 to #22 - sketchysketchist (06/12/2013) [-]
**sketchysketchist rolled a random image posted in comment #2943 at MLP Friendly Board **

Unfortunately, the internet doesn't care.
That is why all you see is ideas from intelligent people that are being restated by people who don't truly understand the concept.
Sort of like how really stupid people are restating really smart concepts from the bible and being dicks about it.
#316 to #29 - anon (06/13/2013) [-]
/r/atheism, full of pathetic people
#124 to #22 - sixth (06/13/2013) [-]
But there are people who will, under any circumstance, perceive criticism as "being a total dick about it".
User avatar #247 to #124 - PoopyFaceTomatoNos (06/13/2013) [-]
couldnt have said that better.
#279 to #247 - itsuckedbeinganon (06/13/2013) [-]
I beg to differ
#308 to #124 - anon (06/13/2013) [-]
and? that doesnt mean that they are dicks too
Just... dont be a dick
#271 - napalmpie (06/13/2013) [-]
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#231 - yuukoku (06/13/2013) [-]
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Regardless of weather you're religious or not, being able to argue about religion is what makes freedom of speech great. Look at all the free entertainment that Buddhists get!
#76 - anon (06/13/2013) [-]
the atheists are rowdy today.
#111 to #76 - qwertywtf (06/13/2013) [-]
If there can't be hate about XBONE, there's gotta be hate about something. And they already got the feminism **** out on the cop post.
User avatar #146 to #111 - deathcampforjewtie (06/13/2013) [-]
Fairy.
Types.
They have a lot to be hate about.
#87 - anon (06/13/2013) [-]
I can't take anything said by Mr. Bean seriously.....
User avatar #216 - mayormilkman (06/13/2013) [-]
These posts sure bring out the crazy in people.
User avatar #41 - zzforrest (06/12/2013) [-]
But then, when you say that, you come to a situation where religious people have the same exact right to insult and ridicule atheists. While you have the valid right to say they are ignorant, they can say the exact same about you. So if anyone here holds by this, but at the same time states that religious people have no validity, they are being a hypocrite.
And nobody likes a hypocrite.
User avatar #52 to #41 - brianhimself ONLINE (06/12/2013) [-]
>religious people have the same exact right to insult and ridicule atheists.

Not if the Atheist in question has proof to support his claims.
User avatar #72 to #52 - itrooztrooperdown (06/13/2013) [-]
That's just stupid. If I want to call you a moron do I have to justify it with proof? **** no, I have the right to call you a moron because it is my personal subjective opinion, and you have the right to insult me back or do whatever the **** you want, because in theory, you are free.

Moron.
User avatar #84 to #72 - brianhimself ONLINE (06/13/2013) [-]
Is there a universally accepted definition of moron? Can you say that I fit that definition based on one statement? I'm not going to insult you back. I'd rather have a conversation with you instead of just us hurling insults and calling each other names.
User avatar #89 to #84 - Endofzeeworld (06/13/2013) [-]
Fair enough, but the point being made is not whether or not his claim is justifiable, but does he have the right to make that claim, no matter if it is justifiable or not.
User avatar #92 to #89 - brianhimself ONLINE (06/13/2013) [-]
I think a law which infringes upon people's right to free speech is wrong. Atheists can say what ever they like about religious beliefs. It may not be polite but they can if they want and theists can respond in any way they like as well. As long as no one is slandering, being libelous, etc. Legally, it's fine.
#250 to #52 - bobbyshallunite (06/13/2013) [-]
I have proof that black people are inferior. I can bring up historical achievements, crime rate, average gpa, etc... Does that mean I should insult black people?
User avatar #59 to #52 - helenwheels (06/13/2013) [-]
No.
Insulting is the same ether way, insulting has nothing to do with proof or anything else. You can say having "proof" makes you at better arguing, but insulting is nothing.
User avatar #78 to #59 - brianhimself ONLINE (06/13/2013) [-]
I'm not trying to insult anyone. I'm just trying to be objective. If people want to believe in God, that's fine. My point is that if you make a statement that you mean people to take as fact, you have to have proof. I know there is no proof God exists. I don't think religious people should look for proof that God exists. They're supposed to have faith. They're supposed to believe without reason.
User avatar #83 to #78 - helenwheels (06/13/2013) [-]
That's all well and good but the statement to which you where replying to has to do with insults.
#71 to #52 - anon (06/13/2013) [-]
"proof to support his claims."
you mean proof as to whether or not a deity exists?
because, by definition, that cannot exist.
User avatar #82 to #71 - brianhimself ONLINE (06/13/2013) [-]
I'm just speaking generally. Not about the existence of God in particular. I think that any rational person should look for evidence that something is true. If no evidence can be found, then you can't go around saying a statement is true anyway.

I get that believing in God is inherently irrational. That's fine. In my opinion, theists shouldn't look for proof of God. They shouldn't need it. They're supposed to have faith. They're supposed to believe without proof.
#85 to #82 - ogloko (06/13/2013) [-]
there is no proof either way. both could be irrational. atheism is simpler and is becoming the more popular opinion.
User avatar #88 to #85 - brianhimself ONLINE (06/13/2013) [-]
The burden of proof is still a thing though. It's the basis of our entire court system. People are innocent until the prosecution proves a crime has been committed. It's the same with anything else.

"Believing in God is irrational; Theists realize they have no proof but they believe anyway because they have faith; etc etc"
#162 to #82 - anon (06/13/2013) [-]
of the same merit, you can't go around claiming that something ISN'T true based on a lack of evidence.

remember, lack of evidence is not evidence of absence
#65 to #52 - ogloko (06/13/2013) [-]
prove there is no god
User avatar #90 to #65 - Endofzeeworld (06/13/2013) [-]
The burden of proof lies with the claimer.
#102 to #90 - ogloko (06/13/2013) [-]
atheism claims there is NO god. support your claim.
User avatar #107 to #102 - Endofzeeworld (06/13/2013) [-]
There is an invisible teapot in the sky that will kill me if I say the words, "banana hammock".
Prove to me there isn't.
Obviously, you can't, and the burden of proving such a claim lies with me, the person who claimed it.
#112 to #107 - ogloko (06/13/2013) [-]
i said "banana hammock" a few times and waited, nothing yet. this little experiment has been a testament to subjective truth in my opinion.
User avatar #119 to #112 - Endofzeeworld (06/13/2013) [-]
Read my comment again friend, I said, "If I said banana hammock,"
Try reading your opponents argument before arguing.
#123 to #119 - ogloko (06/13/2013) [-]
lol easy big guy. i said it and it did nothing, yet the belief holds weight for you. thus subjective truth. why dont you loosen your fedora and take a deep breath
User avatar #126 to #123 - Endofzeeworld (06/13/2013) [-]
And there we have stereotyping atheism, again.
Subjective truth has nothing to do with this argument at all.
You told me to prove there was not god, and your argument was swiftly shot down, whereupon you decided to insult me and present an argument which has nothing to do with this discussion.
#130 to #126 - ogloko (06/13/2013) [-]
subjective truth has everything to do with every argument lol. i asked you prove there is no god and you differed to responsibility to theists. i dont believe with any degree of certainty that there is, or is not, a god(s).

but i would raise the question that if you cant offer proof for your argument, can it really hold weight? have you looked everywhere for god? where do you even start. i see the topic kind of like this: if you told me to find proof of a jellyfish, and i had no knowledge of the ocean or where to find them, i would have 2 easy options. either i could believe they exist, or i can believe that they dont due to lack of proof. i choose a third option, i chose to explore and try and find out whether jellyfish are real or not, and choosing to reserve suspicions until such proof is found (on either side).

its an odd example i guess. i hope you can understand the point im trying to get across. sorry for stereotyping i guess?
User avatar #153 to #130 - Endofzeeworld (06/13/2013) [-]
Apology accepted, the whole autistic fedora-wearing atheist thing really bothers me, that's all.
And to your response, the theory of an unfalsifiable hypothesis has honestly no bearing of truth.
Yes, it is correct that there is no honest way to disprove god, but again, there is no honest way to disprove that invisible flying teapots soar through our solar system.
My honest argument is that while there is no way to prove or disprove god, it is a better assumption to believe he does not, as the idea of a god is just as provable as flying teapots.
#157 to #153 - ogloko (06/13/2013) [-]
i see your argument, but i am still unconvinced. thus i keep stumbling through life asking my questions. good dialog either way.
User avatar #160 to #157 - Endofzeeworld (06/13/2013) [-]
Oh by all means! Do not think that I am being blind to the world, your opinion is completely valid and I respect it.
Keeping an open mind and keeping an open dialogue is critical.
User avatar #80 to #65 - brianhimself ONLINE (06/13/2013) [-]
I can't. Prove there is one.
User avatar #118 to #41 - gammajk ONLINE (06/13/2013) [-]
Yeah, and I have the right to show them why they're wrong.
User avatar #285 to #41 - didactus (06/13/2013) [-]
Since when is atheism, an idea or belief? You cannot criticize that which does not contain any claim which can be criticized. Definition of atheism
noun
[mass noun]
disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods.

Source: oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/atheism
User avatar #93 to #41 - theism (06/13/2013) [-]
He's not talking about insulting atheists he's talking about criticizing religion.
User avatar #139 to #93 - doctorgolgo (06/13/2013) [-]
Actually, he (Atkinson) is talking about criticizing ideas, which may or may not include religious beliefs.
#50 to #41 - anon (06/12/2013) [-]
But do Atheists come to your door and ask for a few moments of your time, and when you say "No Thanks, I'm Atheist" Do they ask extremely inappropriate questions such as "Don't you understand what you are doing to your son?" or when you say you cannot afford to donate to their church because you have rent to pay that month the girl says "I think god would want you to go to heaven, and that is more important than rent" (<--true story) Religious side never seems to understand we all have the right to our beliefs. Once they play nice like I do, then we will talk.
#70 to #50 - anon (06/13/2013) [-]
1.) faith is very important in religion, and you have to remember that.
2.) if you won't play nice until they do, and they're not going to play nice until you do, well.. do you see the problem?

solution: don't be a dick to anyone. I absolutely guarantee it will get you ahead in life.
User avatar #64 to #50 - wottafella (06/13/2013) [-]
Religion is a very delicate subject to some people, I had Jehovah's witnesses come up to my door and asked me to donate, but when I say I am Orthodox, they get offended by the fact that I mention another religion and that I don't want to support their church.
Funniest thing a Jehovah's witness person ever done to me was when they knocked on my door and the first thing they said, without the face to even say hello, was "is this offensive?" What they showed me was a book saying "Is God Cruel?" I broke down and started laughing at their human-less face and just shut the door, didn't stop laughing for a good half hour.
#115 to #41 - teranin ONLINE (06/13/2013) [-]
We want them to be able to criticize atheism... that's good, in our eyes, because it opens the field for a discussion they can never win.  No atheist worth their salt would be unwilling to absorb some criticism, especially if it comes at the benefit of our criticism of religion being a protected right.
We want them to be able to criticize atheism... that's good, in our eyes, because it opens the field for a discussion they can never win. No atheist worth their salt would be unwilling to absorb some criticism, especially if it comes at the benefit of our criticism of religion being a protected right.
User avatar #48 to #41 - shaddz (06/12/2013) [-]
no one is saying religions cannot criticize athiests. There is a big difference between a rational belief and ignorance and unfortunately most people who are religious are in fact ignorant. to add to that it does not take away their right to carry on but can you blame everyone else for ignoring an idiot?
User avatar #137 to #48 - brettyoke ONLINE (06/13/2013) [-]
>Hurr durr I'm an athiest I'm smarter than all the religious people
User avatar #261 to #137 - shaddz (06/13/2013) [-]
actually I am not an athiest, unlike people like you I can just adequately use reason.
User avatar #331 to #261 - brettyoke ONLINE (06/13/2013) [-]
Are you going to give me that "I'm not athiest I just have no religion" ******** ?
User avatar #334 to #331 - shaddz (06/13/2013) [-]
no I am not agnostic, i have a path I follow but that has nothing to do with logic
User avatar #69 to #41 - itrooztrooperdown (06/13/2013) [-]
I'm all open to hear what a religious person has to say about me...

In fact I'm open to hear any opinion about me, because it is always interesting to know the external perception of myself that I will never experience in my life. And if you are implying a situation where a religious person is bashing me on the basis of his beliefs, I can chose not to listen to that since I know it is not true and it is not leading me anyway.

So... My point is hypocrites are dumb haters, and I'd think Mr. Atkinson here is not one?
User avatar #265 to #41 - kittywithclaws ONLINE (06/13/2013) [-]
Of course religious people have the right to question or ridicule athiests, just like vice versa.

However, athiests believe in cold hard evidence and proven facts. If a religious person wants to insult or disprove them, then they can go ahead.

"Hah, you only believe in ideas which have scientific evidence!"
User avatar #333 to #265 - mayormilkman (06/13/2013) [-]
lolwut

Anti-religious arguments can be criticized, for example.
User avatar #45 to #41 - doctorgolgo (06/12/2013) [-]
Please see comment #21 below. Your point is well-made and I think that everyone should be free to insult or question the beliefs/ideas of anyone or anything in this world (or out of it for that matter).
#254 - anon (06/13/2013) [-]
I don't have a problem with critics having something to say. I just have a problem when they say something like everyone's belief should be abolished but their own.
User avatar #240 - sorrowofdaedalus (06/13/2013) [-]
You know, I always find it curious how there's an accepted hatred of racism.

Racism is not a good thing, this is true, but the stupidity revolving around hating it isn't really good either.

Racism, is, at it's core, irrational. This means it has no place existing as a philosophical or reliable practice, yet, it exists. Most commonly, it is said to exist as a result of "ignorance" yet we know this not to be true because many people who are well educated on the matters of race and society -are- racist.

Irrational, even in the minds of people easily capable of making rational decisions, yet incapable of being simply(mind you I said simply, because you can make someone not racist with extreme conditioning in the same way you can make someone not gay) conditioned away? That would be a feeling, and to be more specific, a feeling of hatred.


I think we all agree we'd be upset if we didn't have the right to call something stupid, or to say we dislike something. Yes, our dislike may be entirely irrational, or it may not, but regardless, people DO have a right to FEEL, even hatred.
User avatar #125 - frenzysalem (06/13/2013) [-]
i think it's ridiculous how the only people on this site who ever bring up religion, are the ones who claim to not believe in it.....it's not like the christian population on funnyjunk is rampant or anything so i don't really see who these kinds of posts are pointed towards. i mean, trying to justify hating someone else's beliefs? that's just asinine. just shut the **** up FJ. If you want to express how you think the ultra-right christian group is wrong then go tell that to them, not the ones here that don't deserve it.
#147 to #125 - neurofuzzy (06/13/2013) [-]
"i don't really see who these kinds of posts are pointed towards."
*implying people browsing funny pictures of cats have an agenda*
User avatar #151 to #147 - frenzysalem (06/13/2013) [-]
on a site called FUNNYjunk, there's really no point in these stupid religious/atheist posts. everything on this site is supposed to make people laugh. this **** is just annoying and stupid.
#158 to #151 - doctorgolgo (06/13/2013) [-]
Respectfully disagree there. Yes, this is FunnyJunk. But it's also FeelsJunk, GoreJunk, EducationJunk, and StupidJunk. Hopefully it's mostly FunnyJunk, but I really don't mind mixing in a little thought-provoking content from time-to-time. That's what this
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is for...
User avatar #161 to #158 - frenzysalem (06/13/2013) [-]
i see your point. when i started going to this site and saw all of those unfunny related posts, (feels/education/gore) i thought, "that's kinda neat I guess" and i could look past it. but I've ALWAYS hated these stupid religious/atheist posts because they do nothing more than get people ticked off and argue with each other.
User avatar #167 to #161 - doctorgolgo (06/13/2013) [-]
Yeah, this discussion is kinda spiralling out of control. But when I posted this I didn't see it as a religious post, but an educational one. Something to get people thinking about what's happening around them right now. Myself, i'm getting kind of freaked out at all the weird stuff happening in the world. Especially the way the human race is interacting. WAY too much 1984 and hatred going on. sadface.png
#246 to #125 - anon (06/13/2013) [-]
We typically hide unless provoked.

The Brown Recluses of the internet. Except the other stupid ones. They don't count. Throw your shoe at them.
User avatar #133 to #125 - babbylicious (06/13/2013) [-]
Well how do atheists express themselves? Oh yeah! They should post funny content like the Christians, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, Wiccans, Cult of Dioysiss, Sun worshippers on the site.
#159 to #133 - veryspecialagent (06/13/2013) [-]
Are you actually implying that religious people post content related to religion?

Because, with the exception of certain game-related jokes, I rarely ever see any. And if there are their self-deprecating jokes.
User avatar #169 to #159 - babbylicious (06/13/2013) [-]
Context wise, I mean that everyone should post funny (or try to be) posts.
Yeah you are right, most of the religious people do not post religious post (with the exception of the foil of Terian) and I am sure there are plenty of atheists who do not post atheist related posts as well. Context wise, I am saying that those atheists who do post mainly atheist posts should switch over to funny content on funnyjunk, not this crap which feels just as bad as what the religious right post on facebook.
#242 to #125 - martialnorris (06/13/2013) [-]
**martialnorris rolled a random image posted in comment #4583493 at My Little Pony fanfiction, backgrounds, songs, lyrics, and GIFs. ** But how do you know OP is atheist?
**martialnorris rolled a random image posted in comment #4583493 at My Little Pony fanfiction, backgrounds, songs, lyrics, and GIFs. ** But how do you know OP is atheist?
User avatar #258 to #125 - redtooth (06/13/2013) [-]
This is kinda a kick in the nads for all us atheists who don't hate christians
User avatar #154 to #125 - doctorgolgo (06/13/2013) [-]
While Atkinson's quote addresses religion along with ideas in general, I think a lot of folks of all persuasions feel that "that other religion" (whatever that means) is the main cause of tension in today's world. Atkinson was not trying to justify hatred, he was trying to uphold freedom of thought and speech. And I agree, nobody should have the right to tell anybody what to think or say. To make it criminal to hold an opinion opposite to another person is just plain idiotic.
#61 - ironsoul (06/13/2013) [-]
WHERE IS THE FUNNY?!
#300 to #61 - anon (06/13/2013) [-]
go away
#18 to #4 - emotep (06/12/2013) [-]
So discussing the hows and whys of your ideas and beliefs labels you an idiot?


Also "Astronauts didn't find god" = idiot statement... Wat?
#170 to #18 - anon (06/13/2013) [-]
they aren't discussing the hows and whys.

also, it's a joke
#278 - beerterror (06/13/2013) [-]
Taking so called liberal way of thinking, you have the right to criticize everything, and noone has the right to tell you what should you criticize. Also, I'm pretty sure that when someone criticizes a race (I'm talking about reasonable people), he's talking about a culture, skin colour is only a changing category.
#233 - trickytrickster (06/13/2013) [-]
Doesn't mean you can't be respectful.
#225 - anon (06/13/2013) [-]
he talks?
#197 - pepperchestnut (06/13/2013) [-]
Sure you have the right to criticize anyones religion, just as you have the right to criticize their non-religion.
The fact of the matter is, once you do it publicly to belittle them and make them seem inferior just makes you an asshole.
User avatar #198 to #197 - doctorgolgo (06/13/2013) [-]
True, but I don't think we should be putting people in jail for being assholes. Unless they're violent assholes.
#204 to #198 - pepperchestnut (06/13/2013) [-]
The thing is, it seems a lot of people can't distinguish the meanings between criticism and ridicule.
Most people that speak out against others beliefs are ridiculing and that is a form of bullying, which in itself is quickly becoming a criminal offense.
So who knows, in the future it could very well mean jail time for being an asshole.
User avatar #219 to #204 - doctorgolgo (06/13/2013) [-]
Ouch for me.
#182 - anon (06/13/2013) [-]
This is cool to hear from Mr. Bean, who hardly speaks at all!
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