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This is MARRIAGE

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#3 - trollmobile (06/10/2013) [+] (16 replies)
yeah no
spartans viewed women as so low that they would only **** them for the sake of reproduction

normally when a man wanted sex, he'd ignore his wife and instead **** his buddy.
sorry to be the one to **** on this content, but spartan women were as opressed as everyone else.

they had freedom mostly because most of the time the men weren't there, but the spartan men pretty much treated them as breeding machines
they were the limiting factor in how many children could be had, so they basically had as many as possible.
the only think i know to be right about this is that bearing children was viewed as as important as being a warrior.

mostly because that child they bore would likely be a warrior.


they revolved around producing as many and as good soildiers as they could, that was their one and only cause, so of cause they'd give the women the means to do so.
marriage was also, like everywhere else, up to the father of the woman to decide.
#31 - leeisawesome (06/10/2013) [+] (3 replies)
You all need to shut yo 						****					 saying this post is wrong.   
   
You're basing your reasoning that 'Spartan women actually were oppressed' on the fact Men only wanted to have sex with them for babies. You need to grow up.   
   
Spartan women were all about being badass. You know why? Because 'Only Spartan women gave birth to real men'. The Spartans knew that to raise real soldiers they need badass mothers and badass wives.    
   
Yes, it's true that the Spartan men were much rather shag the adolescent boys who had been given to them simply for this purpose, but that doesn't been the women weren't powerful.   
   
And yes, maybe most of their power DID derive from the fact that the men were away so long and often, but you're EXTREMELY downplaying the significance of this. Being left behind to look after the place was less about keeping the place clean and mowing the lawn, and more about KEEPING THE ENTIRE FRICKIN RACE OF HELOT SLAVES IN CHECK.   
   
The men knew who the real powerhouses were and so did the women. When the Spartan men went off to the war, the women would go up to them, most probably clicking their fingers in a Z formation, and say 'Come back with your shield, or on it', meaning, you better bring your punk ass home victorious or be dead, because I didn't marry no loser.
You all need to shut yo **** saying this post is wrong.

You're basing your reasoning that 'Spartan women actually were oppressed' on the fact Men only wanted to have sex with them for babies. You need to grow up.

Spartan women were all about being badass. You know why? Because 'Only Spartan women gave birth to real men'. The Spartans knew that to raise real soldiers they need badass mothers and badass wives.

Yes, it's true that the Spartan men were much rather shag the adolescent boys who had been given to them simply for this purpose, but that doesn't been the women weren't powerful.

And yes, maybe most of their power DID derive from the fact that the men were away so long and often, but you're EXTREMELY downplaying the significance of this. Being left behind to look after the place was less about keeping the place clean and mowing the lawn, and more about KEEPING THE ENTIRE FRICKIN RACE OF HELOT SLAVES IN CHECK.

The men knew who the real powerhouses were and so did the women. When the Spartan men went off to the war, the women would go up to them, most probably clicking their fingers in a Z formation, and say 'Come back with your shield, or on it', meaning, you better bring your punk ass home victorious or be dead, because I didn't marry no loser.
#1 - redwrench ONLINE (06/10/2013) [+] (3 replies)
I don't care what anyone else says, this is truly awesome, and giving women credit where credit is due. A pity today's society has warped into what it is.
#23 - guu ONLINE (06/10/2013) [+] (3 replies)
My god.. What a load of feminist 						**********					.
My god.. What a load of feminist ********** .
#15 - alawabidingcitizen ONLINE (06/10/2013) [+] (5 replies)
Here's the thing:
Spartans didn't really care so much about women; as far as they were concerned, they were just a way of producing more soldiers. To "marry" a woman was to abduct her from her home and cut her hair shorter before basically raping her to get her pregnant with a child (a future soldier, a future soldier-producer, or an malformed/sickly infant that would be left to die, no matter how much pain the woman went through in birthing it). Women did have the right to own land and walk the streets as equals to men, but only because the men weren't usually preoccupied with them, and as far as children go, most Spartan fathers didn't raise their own kids, so who cares if they were left to the wife?
Also, after completing their childhood, Spartans were raised from the age of thirteen by an older soldier, whom they would train with, study under, and..."live"with (remember cutting the women's hair? yeah, there was a reason they did that...).

inb4 "Historically probable facts? KILL IT WITH RED THUMBS!"
#58 - lordraine ONLINE (06/11/2013) [+] (3 replies)
Spartan Weddings were incredibly badass.

Basically, the guy had to liberate the woman by force from her family. They'd set a day where it'd go down, and the groom-to-be would walk down the street, usually with a crowd gathering to watch. He would be lightly armed, and lightly armored. A blunt sword or maybe a big stick, and leather armor. If they wanted bonus points, they'd go in nothing but clothes and their bare hands.

They would physically invade the bride's house, and the men of the household would attempt to stop or repel him by force. The groom wins the right to marry if he can get the bride back to his home before sundown. The family can put up as much or as little of a struggle as they prefer, but they must offer at least some token resistance. The bride is allowed to pick sides; if she's willing, it's her and her husband-to-be doing a fighting retreat. If she's not, or if she just wants to be disagreeable that day, he has to subdue her, beat off her brothers and father, and carry her back to his home.

Spartan marriage proposals were the closing action sequence of a Stephen Segal movie.
User avatar #32 - zaywoot (06/10/2013) [-]
actually they had to be married before 30... they could before if they would, but they would rather stay single and be with other men for as long as possible, during the military service the soldiers were encouraged to have sex with one another in order to strengthen their bond thus making them work together better...
sparta was gay... nothing wrong with that, but it was very gay...


the viking women also had a lot of rights actually could inherit and own land, joined the raiding and pillaging, could divorce and keep her stuff...
#82 - dagreja (06/11/2013) [+] (1 reply)
User avatar #59 - paelaer (06/11/2013) [+] (1 reply)
You know, the Vikings trusted women with their keys.

I think that's pretty badass.
User avatar #43 - croski (06/10/2013) [+] (2 replies)
I guess we should start naming sources for these history debates. I could now write a ton of crap by twisting the words of Herodotus or Xenophon the way I want my story to go.

Note to fellow FJ-ers, don't believe everything you read here.
#48 to #43 - leeisawesome (06/10/2013) [-]
Let's face it, Ancient History is such a wishy-washy area when it comes to solid facts. Everything downs to debate and stipulation. Hell, there's more proof that Jesus existed than there is that Julius Caesar did!
User avatar #33 - rjake (06/10/2013) [+] (8 replies)
weren't girls more likely to be killed at birth than boys?
User avatar #55 to #54 - trollmobile (06/11/2013) [-]
they killed anyone that wasn't a healthy, strong baby.
#16 - anonymous (06/10/2013) [-]
This actually made me angry because Tumblr is full of women so this is just a feminist circlejerk.
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#93 - deathcampforjewtie (06/11/2013) [-]
"The yelling is a side effect of the unfreezing process."
"Yes Basil, I know what you mean, I'm having trouble controlling THE VOLUME OF MY VOICE!"
#91 - darthblam ONLINE (06/11/2013) [+] (1 reply)
Don't forget all the gay Spartan buttsex!
User avatar #64 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (06/11/2013) [+] (2 replies)
The funny thing is, this wasn't Sparta, this was Viking culture.

That's right, the society that was built off raping, pillaging, killing for honour, and dying for it, had more respect and rights for women then one of the most sexually promiscuous societies on Earth
#83 to #64 - lordaurion (06/11/2013) [-]
>he thinks the Vikings only raped and pillaged
>he thinks the Vikings only raped and pillaged
#52 - karouin (06/11/2013) [+] (1 reply)
ITT: Fags butthurt over some women not being historically oppressed

"no, no, relax guise, they were actually in the kitchen, lel"
#2 - allnamesrtaken ONLINE (06/10/2013) [-]
I actually read it and it was worth it.
I actually read it and it was worth it.
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