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#29 - envinite (06/06/2013) [-]
God damit, I ******* cringe with OP's stupidity
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#1 - amuzen ONLINE (06/06/2013) [-]
the water is because if a bomb is on a plane it's going to cause a lot more damage than an airport trashcan, see 9/11, the seat belt is because turbulence from when the plane is taking off can cause someone to fall over and hurt themselves and the airline doesn't want to be held responsible for that, also because if they hit turbulence or slow down suddenly you could get whiplash, the butter knife is because it's possible for someone to sharpen one of those enough to stab someone, in particular the pilot. I don't know about the nail clippers but on the other hand I've never had my nail clippers taken away when I got on a plane so whatever.
User avatar #39 to #1 - mutzaki (06/06/2013) [-]
That still doesn't explain why you receive utensils on the plane when you can't even bring them with you on the plane.
#71 to #1 - anon (06/06/2013) [-]
you know how many more people are in the airport then on the plane? trust me if it was a bomb it would do more damage. The whole safety procedure on the plane is ******** , the position they tell you to be in if there's a crash just makes you snap your neck faster as the plane is going down. The seat belt does help for turbulence though, but nothing more. And are you saying that someone in first class can't sharpen a butter knife ? Even if someone did try taking over the plane with a knife, there can be +300 people on a plane, im sure a few guys can just tackle him and play it smart
#72 to #1 - anon (06/06/2013) [-]
The butter knife part is ******** . To form an edge before the airplane lands, youd need to smuggle an angler grinder. Not to mention that if stabing would be an issue, it would be far easier to fashion shiv from a bone, hardwood or tough plastic and carry it through the metal detector. Hell, you could just smash a bottle you got at the duty free shop to make a serviceable makeshift weapon.

Personaly, I think it's just a govermental gesture overzealously supported by bussines that profits from luxuries sold at the airport.
User avatar #99 to #1 - gorginhanson (06/06/2013) [-]
also its not a bomb by itself, you have to have an accomplice sneak the other part of the formula on as well
User avatar #100 to #1 - skiskis (06/06/2013) [-]
The nail clippers could be used to cut the seat belt, and that in turn could be used to strangle someone. I doubt its ever happened, but that's just what I've heard.
#107 to #1 - anon (06/06/2013) [-]
Who actually has a legitimate use for nail clippers on an airplane, really who needs to do that on a plane
User avatar #131 to #1 - neutrality (06/06/2013) [-]
um maybe its the whole safety thing but do you know how hard it is to clean up nail clippings? Turbulence plus cutting nails=bad.
User avatar #45 to #1 - strelokkk (06/06/2013) [-]
Thanks for the information pal, can you explain the water thing though ? How can a water bottle be harmful anyhow ???
User avatar #2 to #1 - tenaciousjon (06/06/2013) [-]
How long have you been studying the art of buzzkill?
User avatar #18 to #1 - fantomen (06/06/2013) [-]
You wouldn't even have to sharpen a knife like that to make it a lethal weapon, you just need to use enough force and it will work.
I base this argument on that I saw photos of a guy stabbed through the heart with a dinner fork in a forensics book.
User avatar #6 to #1 - lordlolland (06/06/2013) [-]
Then please explain why they don't take all your electronic stuff that involves Lithium Ion batteries, if you know what you are doing then an explosion from one of those fellows can cause quite a bit more havoc than a bottle of water or a damn butter knife.
#9 to #6 - amuzen ONLINE (06/06/2013) [-]
the idea is that they don't have extensive enough technology to scan a bottle of water, or any other liquid, well enough to tell if it doesn't contain some sort of explosive or poisonous gas in a time efficient matter, getting an explosion out of an average lithium battery is going to take a bit more tinkering than shaking up a bottle of nitroglycerin or uncorking a bottle full of concentrated mustard gas or the like. Also it's understood that there are ways to get around basic air port security, they aren't flawless the main reason of basic airport security isn't to stop specialized terrorists with training for the most part its to discourage newbie terrorists from making an attempt that might get lucky and result in something unlucky, it doesn't take a lot of specialized knowledge to stab someone with a knife or release a toxic gas but it takes substantially more specialized knowledge, and time, to turn an every day lithium battery into an explosive strong enough to blow up a plane.
#20 to #1 - anon (06/06/2013) [-]
It's all just showmanship to make passengers feel safe. Every year security is tested for actual safety and every year it fails spectacularly. If someone put their mind to blowing up a plane it would be simple.

The reason it doesn't happen? Remember how shocked everyone was when 9/11 happened? Thats because they got incredibly lucky with it being successful. When it comes to wanting to terrorise a nation, a plane is a pretty crap way of doing it. A bomb in a subway, or crowded event is far easier and more devastating. Hell, it's actually the amount of ******** attention we give to plane security that increases the likelihood of them being targetted because it makes them look like a challenge and makes the act itself scarier.
User avatar #24 to #20 - bramdk (06/06/2013) [-]
how did they get incredibly lucky..... they tried to hijack 4 planes and succeeded.
incredibly lucky once, fine. incredibly lucky 4 times, no. that is not how luck works!
#27 to #24 - anon (06/06/2013) [-]
Incredibly lucky with the amount of damage they caused. The buildings were flawed, it was unexpected etc.

A bomb on a plane causes nowhere near as much damage as a bomb placed strategically elswhere can QED it's a less viable stretegy.
#43 to #27 - anon (06/06/2013) [-]
Whether or not the plane has a bomb on it doesn't make that much difference when the plane is flying into a building.
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#146 to #3 - amuzen ONLINE (06/07/2013) [-]
I'm gonna make that picture my avatar it's perfect
User avatar #60 to #1 - lmaopwnt (06/06/2013) [-]
Nail clippers are ideal for cutting wires.
User avatar #13 - AvatarAirBender (06/06/2013) [-]
The seat belts are more for the plane dropping and raising while going through wind. If you didn't have the lap belt on you would smack your head on the over head bin.
User avatar #14 to #13 - wigglejig (06/06/2013) [-]
And to keep the bodies together when the plane crashes.
#69 - yellowcardraiden (06/06/2013) [-]
Reminded me of this.
#120 - kereyi (06/06/2013) [-]
If someone can hijack an entire plane with a nail clipper he ******* deserve the plain.
User avatar #126 to #120 - vatra (06/06/2013) [-]
Exactly, they earned that plan.
User avatar #123 to #120 - ghouleyed (06/06/2013) [-]
That's just what i was gona say.

Thumb for you for reading minds.
hmm are you asian?
#87 - spyderbro (06/06/2013) [-]
Actually the Seatbelt thing isn't to save your life, it's so they can identify your body in case the plane crashes based on your seat.
#144 to #87 - blanketandpillow (06/07/2013) [-]
That's really depressing....
User avatar #152 to #144 - spyderbro (06/10/2013) [-]
Just being logical
#153 to #152 - blanketandpillow (06/10/2013) [-]
A lot of logical things are depressing.
User avatar #91 to #87 - wacemindu (06/06/2013) [-]
It's quite grim reallly, what with the theories about the oxygen masks and the brace position too.
User avatar #98 to #91 - spyderbro (06/06/2013) [-]
Exactly, I wasn't sure if those were rumours so I didn't mention them
User avatar #101 to #98 - wacemindu (06/06/2013) [-]
Well my source for the first one is fight club, so that's dubious.

But the brace position one I think I saw on a documentary.

I think the best mentality with it all though is the mentality that Jack has from roosterteeth. Whilst you're on that plane your life is entirely out of your control, so there is no point worrying about any of it.
User avatar #102 to #101 - spyderbro (06/06/2013) [-]
Haha, it's true, so I just take some Muscle relaxers and a sleeping pill and pass out the whole time.
User avatar #103 to #102 - wacemindu (06/06/2013) [-]
Knowing my luck if I took muscle relaxers I'd **** my self.
User avatar #105 to #103 - spyderbro (06/06/2013) [-]
Haha damn bro, why?
User avatar #111 to #105 - wacemindu (06/06/2013) [-]
Just the kind of thing that would happen to me. I'd be sitting next to a smoking hot blonde ...and I'd **** my self.

So I'll just sit nervously in my chair till we land instead.
User avatar #151 to #111 - spyderbro (06/10/2013) [-]
Sounds kinda like you should get that checked out
#68 - crystalia (06/06/2013) [-]
The water bottle one is actually because the were terrorists who were boarding planes with a transparent explosive liquid. It look and acted like water, however it was light sensitive and would explode if it came in contact with a camera flash

The seat belt prevents you from flying out of your seat in a high speed dive or barrel roll, potentially saving your life if you survive the landing that is.

The other two are just really stupid rules. But if a plane goes down, everybody complains, "Why weren't these ______ banned from planes?!"
User avatar #75 to #68 - thepandaking (06/06/2013) [-]
all of this ^
but the nail clippers are permitted as of recently, so that's irrelevant. as for the knives, I haven't been in first class so I didn't know they gave people silverware knives.
#77 to #75 - crystalia (06/06/2013) [-]
Yes, nail clippers have been permitted in the US. And silverware has always existed in first class, it's just awkwardly shaped and duller than all hell. It'd take a lot of force to hurt someone with a first class butter knife.
User avatar #79 to #77 - thepandaking (06/06/2013) [-]
oh, well then that makes sense... I don't like when people complain about stupid stuff like airlines. it has its bothersome rules here and there but they're there because something bad happened without them. oh well.
#81 to #79 - crystalia (06/06/2013) [-]
Yep. I grew up in airports and flying, so it sucks that the passengers think they can act like this. Many of these rules are there to protect you, it's unfortunate that it's inconvenient, but I'd rather be inconvenienced than dead.
User avatar #83 to #81 - thepandaking (06/06/2013) [-]
lol exactly. I think it's harder to complain the more you've traveled.
User avatar #94 - thebacondroid (06/06/2013) [-]
I think the seatbelt is to prevent your chances of FLYING AROUND THE PLANE if it starts going down
User avatar #129 to #94 - vatra (06/06/2013) [-]
Basically to stop you from bouncing off the ceiling or other passengers.
User avatar #136 to #94 - osimonmagus (06/07/2013) [-]
You're going to die anyways. Who cares?
#148 to #136 - blanketandpillow (06/08/2013) [-]
The plane may stay in the air until the pilot gets it under control.
#51 - Blackdrama (06/06/2013) [-]
Most of the dumbest security measures exist because someone somewhere tried something dangerous/evil that had to do with this.   
You just need one man with a stupid idea to change many things in the world.
Most of the dumbest security measures exist because someone somewhere tried something dangerous/evil that had to do with this.

You just need one man with a stupid idea to change many things in the world.
#65 to #51 - anon (06/06/2013) [-]
someone should do some terrorist attacks with clothings - so all people will have to fly nude from that day on.
User avatar #106 to #65 - walkerjam (06/06/2013) [-]
We need this to happen.
#82 to #65 - ScruffytheJanitor (06/06/2013) [-]
Have you seen how many fat mother ******* fly?
User avatar #56 to #51 - Sethorein ONLINE (06/06/2013) [-]

"...That's a water bottle!"

"... **** !"
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#7 - dropless (06/06/2013) [-]
Hell, if someone can hijack a plane just using nail clippers, then they can have the ******* plane
#57 - vladhellsing ONLINE (06/06/2013) [-]
What if you know martial arts? Can you only fly on a plane whilst wearing handcuffs & oven mitts?
What if you know martial arts? Can you only fly on a plane whilst wearing handcuffs & oven mitts?
User avatar #61 to #57 - potatot (06/06/2013) [-]
User avatar #88 - nephritho (06/06/2013) [-]
airline security is just create an illusion to make people feel safe.
if a terrorist want to **** things up they will find a way.
beside airplanes are never 100% safe to start with.
however the risk of an airplane will crash is tiny.
but the chance exist.
User avatar #93 to #88 - thegamegestapo (06/06/2013) [-]
The illusion of safety kind of falls apart if you are actually paying attention though. I had my bag opened once by a security guard. His "search" went roughly along the lines of this:
1. Without any concern pull open the zip (which would be the obvious manual trigger if it had a bomb in it.
2. Ignore the clothing that I would probably wrap my weapon in if I had one.
3. Do a fantastic job of searching for drugs in my toiletries bag by holding it up to the light and weighing it with his hand.
4. Holding my bottle in front of him and shaking it (for the love of god, if the container is suspected to be full of nitroglycerin I very much doubt the suggested test is to hold it next to your head and give it a good shoogle)
5. Steal my bag of skittles

These are the people who protect us...
User avatar #128 to #93 - vatra (06/06/2013) [-]
I started pointing those things out to a TSA agent last time I flew, he asked me if I wanted to fly or not.
User avatar #122 to #93 - teutoburg (06/06/2013) [-]
Once a TSA supervisor put a pistol under my bag to test the system, ******* xray lady didn't even notice
#12 - thedonkeykong (06/06/2013) [-]
best thing is: once you get checked you cant take a water bottle with you. then you come to the duty free shop. there you can buy as much vodka as you can carry (and lighters...) and take it with you on the plane. Am I the only one who thinks that this is highly dangerous?
User avatar #90 to #12 - eatchickendaily (06/06/2013) [-]
The products of shops past airport security are also checked by security.
User avatar #31 to #12 - daentraya (06/06/2013) [-]
Do you know anything about pressure and water?
#44 to #31 - anon (06/06/2013) [-]
do you know anything about pressure and vodka
#67 to #12 - anon (06/06/2013) [-]
Vodka isn't flamable. Alcohol solution starts to be flamable around 56% alcohol content. Vodka is only 40 or 38. That's why you won't see stronger spirits in duty free shops, like Stroh, Slivovitza and such.
#142 to #67 - saladtongsofdeath (06/07/2013) [-]
not really, jagermeister is only 37% alcohol by volume and it is flammable (look up a flaming nazi drink) and a bottle of absolut vodka comes in at %40 percent
#137 to #67 - saladtongsofdeath (06/07/2013) [-]
really? then how come i got barcadi 151 when i came back from puerto rico?
User avatar #15 to #12 - secretdestroyers (06/06/2013) [-]
No nail clippers but Molotov cocktails are ok....sounds good. I can dig it...
User avatar #8 - demandsgayversion (06/06/2013) [-]
Just shake up the water bottle furiously in front of security. Once they see it doesn't explode, you can go on your way.
User avatar #17 to #8 - fantomen (06/06/2013) [-]
There are clear liquid explosives that are perfectly safe to shake.
Methyl nitrate for example.
User avatar #37 to #17 - funnyrage (06/06/2013) [-]
show them how you drink it.
User avatar #59 to #8 - poniesareghey (06/06/2013) [-]
Or they arrest you for being a sick **** who gets kicks out of jerking off poor unsuspecting water bottles.
User avatar #54 to #8 - thejerseyjenn (06/06/2013) [-]
They took my coke one. The soda, not the drug. But they asked if it was ok if they take it away first. Like... what? I have a choice? It was a really young guy so maybe he was just nervous.
User avatar #10 to #8 - secretdestroyers (06/06/2013) [-]
Or they think you just made a threat and you get detained. TSA are bitches like that.

Also, they grope you in weird places for no reason at all. I know the left pec isn't as bad as the crotch, but I still can't help but feel violated.
User avatar #53 - BenniEGHR (06/06/2013) [-]
My Dad pilots 747's, he is not aloud metal blunt knives to eat his meal with incase he holds his crew hostage or something stupid, and he has a fire axe behind his seat... wtf
#95 to #53 - penguinsarecool (06/06/2013) [-]
wow your dad is lucky i wish i could become a pilot
User avatar #109 to #95 - BenniEGHR (06/06/2013) [-]
not lucky, smart. he used to fly Tornado's for the R.A.F. He trained the Saudi air force for a while... any Saudi Arabian that fly's a Tornado, was taught by my Dad.
#110 to #109 - penguinsarecool (06/06/2013) [-]
cool, are you following in his footsteps?
and how did he become a pilot?
User avatar #112 to #110 - BenniEGHR (06/06/2013) [-]
nope, my aims are to be Armed Police, then Mercenary afterwards... you need sciences i believe to become a pilot, and a degree
#113 to #112 - penguinsarecool (06/06/2013) [-]
Yes that's how it is in my country too. Hopefully one day
#149 to #53 - aloud (06/08/2013) [-]
You probably meant to use "allowed".
User avatar #150 to #149 - BenniEGHR (06/08/2013) [-]
that i did, i was fairly drunk and tired when i wrote this, surprised it even makes sense
#70 - dinkcool (06/06/2013) [-]
Lets forbid people from bringing sharp objects through the security check so we can sell them at the tax free shop.
#143 to #70 - saladtongsofdeath (06/07/2013) [-]
so what do you want to do? sell them in bags?? what are we, canadians?
#80 to #70 - crystalia (06/06/2013) [-]
The government makes the rules, not the airlines. The screeners report to departments of the government, not the airports or individual airlines. The government has asked airports and airlines to stop offering certain things, but that would greatly reduce sales, so the airlines didn't listen.
User avatar #92 - wacemindu (06/06/2013) [-]
Only poor people would try to hijack a plan
#62 - anon (06/06/2013) [-]
why on earth would you think the seatbelt is for a crash.

like, are you that stupid
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