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#19 - Protomix (06/05/2013) [-]
I like this post because it goes a way towards showing how the fj community has started to mature. honest to god this picture would have been thumbed down to hell two years ago
I like this post because it goes a way towards showing how the fj community has started to mature. honest to god this picture would have been thumbed down to hell two years ago
User avatar #53 to #19 - rjgnal ONLINE (06/05/2013) [-]
i had a content in january last year that made frontpage and was about the same subject... probly just depends on the mood of the people and how you word your message
#241 to #19 - hellsjester (06/05/2013) [-]
im not disagreeing with you by any means. it is true 100%. i just hate girls that think i'm flirting with them buy doing a nice deed. for example: i saw a woman with her hands full and i was at the door of the local grocery store so i decided to open the door for her. i got bitched at for flirting with her.... so i simply slammed the door in her face and walked away. MFW i was just using common courtesy.

******* bitches
User avatar #210 to #19 - FatBenIsPedoBear (06/05/2013) [-]
I know I will probably get thumbed down to hell by saying this, but I disagree with you. Funnyjunk hasn't started to mature. The community just has bipolar. One day you can get +200 for a comment, another day the same comment will get -50. eg, an Anti-Justin Bieber pic may get +2000 thumbs one day, but the same content could get thumbed down with everyone saying "OMG BEETING A DED HORZE!!!!"
Please dont hate me
#116 to #19 - unholyjebus (06/05/2013) [-]
If you look at some of the top comments on content from about 2 years ago, it is total cancer. Example:
#268 to #116 - likely (06/05/2013) [-]
Oh sweet unholyjebus...
...someone gouge my eyes out...
User avatar #64 to #19 - jokersaysamuseme (06/05/2013) [-]
Up, those 12 year olds are starting to mature
#132 to #19 - megashot ONLINE (06/05/2013) [-]
User avatar #27 to #19 - sketchysketchist (06/05/2013) [-]
Absolutely true.
A few years ago, I would've thumbed it down too, but realized I'm the asshole.
It's kinda nice when ******** is disapproved with the harsh reality and I'm able to accept it.
#83 to #27 - snowshark (06/05/2013) [-]
Good for you. The lucky people in life get someone to come along and show them how to live. (Lucky me got that when I was 12.) It's nice to see that FunnyJunk is developing in an interesting way.

We've dropped the rage-comics and overused memes in favour of our own self-created memes. We also see a lot of good advice (e.g. this content) and interesting scientific posts making it to the front page these days.

Though some of the community still argues like children whenever Religion or Guns or Ponies are called into question the number has really gone down recently and people seem to be more ready to accept other people's views and call-out those who don't.

If **** keeps on like this we'll have a ******* utopia on our hands sooner or later.
User avatar #220 to #83 - newforomador (06/05/2013) [-]
Something else I realized is that things like you said (guns, religion, ponies) are not only increasing in the amount they are seen, but the arguments about them are either becoming nonexistent or are actually well-based arguments without many hateful words.
User avatar #266 to #220 - snowshark (06/05/2013) [-]
I think it's because of the culture that is being promoted recently on FunnyJunk. We went through a few very distinct troubles on the site recently. We had the Obama v Romney issue, Guns, Bronies, Religion's been a constant, Homosexuality and gay marriage. All of these hot debates got the community so freaking steamed that they eventually began either getting tired of arguing pointlessly or they stepped up the game of their arguments.

People got called out for setting out base arguments because the community'd seen so much of them in a short period of time and they just seemed to come one after another, now the community tries to head them off at the pass. Now, even though FJ remains split on many issues, the issues seem to either accepted or just retaliated against fairly passively with red thumbs.

We've also seen a big decline in the number of trolls that use the site. Yeah, there's one or two here and there but I don't come across them nearly as frequently as I used to. They seemed to disappear some time after the advent of 9Gag but that could simply be coincidence.

What's more, it has given rise to a term I've never heard anywhere else but seems to have become a favourite on this site. "Psuedo-Intellectual". Because arguments now tend to be fairly well-reasoned a new kind of insult has come up. 'PS' is basically a way of calling people out as pretending they're intelligent as opposed to actually being intelligent. The truth is that I've never seen this phrase applied in a place where I felt it was deserved so (though I hate to generalise) I feel it is likely the replacement for calling people you disagree with idiots.

You can't call them idiots anymore because a lot of the time they're not, but you can call into question the nature of their intelligence. Either way, it's pretty clear that FJ has seen a big shift in the maturity of it's userbase recentlu and I feel it's for the better. I just hope we don't become too soft.. but with DJ 4DM1N around I doubt that.
#270 to #266 - likely (06/05/2013) [-]
I get mentioned quite a lot in accidental posts.
Occasionally, I read one or two, just out of curiosity.
I must say, snowshark, I'm glad I read yours.

This thread just made me like this thread so much more. I mean, if FJ had made an advice board a few years ago, it would have been FULL of dicks trolling it...
But I suppose we all just got used to it and the trolls got bored.
Because now there is an actual functioning Advice board. A place on ******* funnyjunk where people can get help. thats just...
#272 to #270 - snowshark (06/05/2013) [-]
It's not all that hard to believe. It's human nature.

You see, what the internet does that is completely unheard of in the entirety of human history is put you and me in connection with each other. More than that, but it connects every single human being to every other one, so long as they have a terminal through which they can access is. (Terminals which are becoming more prevalent even in the least developed parts of the world.)

Think of all the change that came about in the 20th century because of the increased ease of spreading messages. Equal rights for women and blacks. Now equal rights for gays. Because people can connect to other people, they do not feel alone. In fact, the lay-men feel more powerful than they ever have before.

Look at Anonymous. A group of (by definition) nobodies who get together to fight (and there is no doubt that they fight) for the beliefs they believe to be right. Beliefs such as freedom and truth. Beliefs that were previously set-down by the forefathers of the US and echoed by every half-decent rights-movement since then.

The internet connects people. How does this apply to FJ? Well, because people have been connected as though they were neighbors, nay, housemates. You and I are chatting as though over our garden fences. Because of that, the tides of change that affect a few of us affect all of us.

People have grown up and matured over time but remained with FJ. Their increased maturity has bled down to those beneath. They remember how things were and how it was like to be immature and are grateful of their maturity, hence they share it with their family; i.e. FJ.

FJ is a family. Affected by the change in the outside world but empathetic to each other. Ready to razz and forgive and aid and comfort in equal measure all under the FJ banner of good-will.

The internet is bringing about a change in the world through connection. Soon it may even change the way governments work, because what relies on connections more than democracy?
#275 to #272 - likely (06/05/2013) [-]
Yeah, I do like talking to my housemates over the fence.

but yeah. It'll be interesting to see where FJ goes in the future.
If we keep getting MORE mature, eventually we'll be a philosophical debate site...

But it is nice to know that we're no longer such faggots. I mean, we're still all faggots, but not as bad...
#277 to #275 - snowshark (06/05/2013) [-]
Oh quite repellently so!

But that too is somewhat reassuring.
User avatar #267 to #266 - newforomador (06/05/2013) [-]
Can you give me an example of the term PS as an insult. I've never actually seen it and you saying this is the first time I've heard it.
User avatar #269 to #267 - snowshark (06/05/2013) [-]
"Shut the **** up you pseudo-intellectual faggot." It would be used as a prefix to the core insult like that.

It's like calling someone out for not knowing their **** but pretending they do. Honestly I'm not sure where it came from or why it's in use and really I can only make guesses as to the where and why.
User avatar #283 to #83 - mayormilkman (06/08/2013) [-]
"self-created memes"

User avatar #284 to #283 - snowshark (06/09/2013) [-]
There are some short-lasting memes that spawn from time to time on FJ based on things that appear on the frontpage. That's what I'm getting at there.
User avatar #285 to #284 - mayormilkman (06/09/2013) [-]
That's the way it has been for a while, but as you have said, they never last long.
User avatar #286 to #285 - snowshark (06/09/2013) [-]
Aye. But it shows a form of autonomy that isn't extant on other sites. The newer sites tend to struggle to find themselves and their identity. For FJ the identity doesn't lie in the content, but in the comments. The content is never as funny as the comments section but the comments section can sometimes be home to some really interesting debates, like this one.

4Chan is very much about the OP. OP is where all the comedy comes from, either that or it's somebody mocking OP. Either way, 4Chan never really leaves a lasting impression on you the way the conversations in the FJ comments does. Reddit is a better place in terms of how helpful and friendly the community is (as evidenced by how many good things happen in real life that are organised there.)

FJ kinda sits in the middleground. It's not as funny or influential as 4Chan nor is it as helpful as Reddit, but the blend of the two work well enough to create a unique community.

Then there's 9Gag... which thinks it's 4Chan but is really lower than Facebook. Funny how the hierarchy of websites goes, huh?
#134 - bronywhat (06/05/2013) [-]
How to get out of the friend zone:   
Ask her out.
How to get out of the friend zone:

Ask her out.
#234 to #134 - usaisnotamerica (06/05/2013) [-]
And then she says:
'' I think we're just friends ''
#244 to #234 - hellsjester (06/05/2013) [-]
then move on..... simply say "well i have enough friends so peace".
#263 to #234 - bronywhat (06/05/2013) [-]
Then you know you can stop wasting your time : )
User avatar #140 to #134 - sabcy (06/05/2013) [-]
No, then you enter theakward zone
#200 to #140 - anon (06/05/2013) [-]
or the moving on zone.
User avatar #34 - awildniglet (06/05/2013) [-]
I completely agree.
And any dude complaining that guys only pay the "friendzone punishment" don't realize that girls pay the "sex object punishment" if they try to do the same. Be assertive, or get over it
#137 to #34 - heyimawesome (06/05/2013) [-]
It's rude, but I had to post it.
Don't hate me
User avatar #176 to #137 - awildniglet (06/05/2013) [-]
#45 - seedymack (06/05/2013) [-]
I've said this before and I'll say it again. I've been the "friend zoned nice guy", seriously have, pretty much spent two years single and no sex (aged 20-22) and just dates with women who broke me internally. Now having a girlfriend, I see how much nice guys in the friend zone suck dick. In my time before her I broke up bad relationships and even an engagement, this is like 2/3 times, because I was that nice guy girls showed time to when their respective partners weren't what they were after and they needed someone to jump to in order to feel confident about leaving them. I despised these girls so much for using me like that - but then look at me. I broke up couples to feel like prince charming, and that's no ******* nice guy - that is douche bag INC.

Now I have a gf, we treat each other right, but the amount of "Nice Guys" I see swarming her like the Beta sharks I once was among, it's just so eye-opening to see what these guys can be like from the other side.
User avatar #106 - froggets (06/05/2013) [-]
Grow some backbone, and be confident. that's all.
The main clue about girls is that they want a guy they can feel safe around
User avatar #21 - thefogwoggler (06/05/2013) [-]
does this dude have a youtube channel or something he seems cool
User avatar #119 to #21 - wardylocks (06/05/2013) [-]
his youtube is the1janitor and the video is called You're Probably Not Really A Nice Guy
#62 to #21 - anon (06/05/2013) [-]
the1janitor is his channel name
User avatar #281 to #28 - thefogwoggler (06/06/2013) [-]
User avatar #199 - sepheroth (06/05/2013) [-]
Never trust a self-proclaimed "nice guy"
User avatar #205 to #199 - RandomAnonGuy (06/05/2013) [-]
**** off, I'm a nice guy!
User avatar #214 to #205 - trollmobile ONLINE (06/05/2013) [-]
i myself am an ass.
i view kindness as the greatest quality in a person, much because i find it so rewarding, yet so difficult, myself.
User avatar #206 to #205 - spaceshark (06/05/2013) [-]
User avatar #208 to #206 - RandomAnonGuy (06/05/2013) [-]
I like to think I actually am though...
User avatar #245 to #208 - sepheroth (06/05/2013) [-]
Are others telling you that you're a nice guy, or are you telling others?
User avatar #248 to #245 - RandomAnonGuy (06/05/2013) [-]
There are people who think that I'm an absolute asshat, and there are people that think I'm the nicest guy around. I can get a bit rough when I haven't had enough sleep, which happens often coz I'm an insomniac, but it's not my goal to hurt anyone.
User avatar #255 to #248 - sepheroth (06/05/2013) [-]
You sound more just like a decent human than a nice guy. Which is what prior should strive for.
#133 - onlyzero (06/05/2013) [-]
Was this the reason why you shot the sheriff?
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#26 - sketchysketchist (06/05/2013) [-]
**sketchysketchist rolled a random image posted in comment #75461 at Advice - love advice, dating advice, relationship advice, girl advice, teenage advice **

You want a girl?
1. Get a job and earn money.
2. Work until you're stable enough to take care of yourself.
3. Work harder so you can be twice as independent.
4. Meet a nice girl and show her you're interested by asking if she's single.
5. If she is, ask her if she'd like to go out for Coffee/lunch/dinner/etc....
6. Keep doing this until one agrees. Move on from anyone who says no.
7. Get to know her, let her get to know you.
8. Do more stuff together if she's down to have one on one time.
9. If she doesn't, get on her level and move on. A good relationship isn't based on how much you have to juggle to get her interested.
10. Restart to the "meet a nice girl" stage until a girl can get on your level of interest.
11. Get closer and closer until you both realize you're comfortable.
12. You now have a girl and can take her out to do stuff and treat her.
13. If she treats you in any way, that's just icing on the cake and she's a keeper. If you expect her to put out and/or reward you for petty ******** or all the time, you are an ass and deserve no one. Though if she only expects you to treat her all the time and she thinks she shouldn't treat you like you treat her, dump her and move on. And restart from the "find a nice girl" stage.

Any questions?
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#63 to #48 - anon (06/05/2013) [-]
Once in some magazine for pussies i found in some waiting room there was the list of the 10 best and 10 worst jobs in Italy, i don't remember all ten in the list of the worst, there was barman, milker, delivery... and i said: "Wow, i did 7 of 10 of the worst jobs in Italy without realizing i was enslaved and my rights were stomped"

Talked about this with my friends, everyone did something in the list of the worst job at a point in his life.
No one of my friends spent a whole week unemployed in his life.
Now, i don't want to say we are cool, i don't think we are, but maybe you should change the question from: "why i can't" into "how come other people can"

and stop thinking: "so many people failing it proves it's not about attitude."
that's wrong, and wrong imput lead to wrong output.

with this getting a job is ridicously easy.
User avatar #145 to #48 - sketchysketchist (06/05/2013) [-]
Anything worth doing isn't easy.
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User avatar #282 to #280 - sketchysketchist (06/06/2013) [-]
Flirting is nothing more than tossing a few compliments towards someone.
I've done it multiple times by mistake even though I am terrified of human contact.
Just try some small talk. Point out something obvious about them or their situation.
It isn't the only way, some people need to be friends with people before they can go out on a date.
In your case, maybe that's what it is.
The way to find if a girl is interested is finding out if she us dating someone, /the next step would be consensually asking her if she like to go out and do something with you, like get coffee or lunch, if she declines or acts funny about it, she's not interested.
#274 to #145 - anon (06/05/2013) [-]
i wrote the comment #63 as well. Maybe i should join this portal.

it's like load a truck with rice or flour, it gets easier when you got used to.

Truth is that...
"Truth is the most logical choice if you want to be a professional lazy moron, any well done job is easyer than making up excuses, shave the walls, hide behind coffee machines and remember wich lie was told to who-A and wich other was told to who-B, plus one gains respect if takes responsability on his own mistakes."

well, it looks like we both know this, actually my hope while typing this very answer is that some "dead by cold" read the paragraph above and turns on his brain.
#201 to #145 - anon (06/05/2013) [-]
my friend with no car, no experience and little qualification got a job on his first time.

I am the complete opposite. No job.

explain that.
#276 to #201 - anon (06/05/2013) [-]
with such attitude i won't let you dry metal spoons from a dishwasher, the only advice i can give to you is: "get yourself a stable position before thinking about saving Bolivia*."

*"To save Bolivia" = "to slack off" in frulian slang.
User avatar #227 to #201 - sketchysketchist (06/05/2013) [-]
Welcome to the real world, jackass.
#55 to #26 - anon (06/05/2013) [-]
a) Usually boneless people wish to know how to do it while skipping some point, deeply inside everyone knows your method works greatly.

Like as fishing:
"Every idiot can do it with worms, carefully assembled equipment, brilliant knowledge at the river in early morning, i want to go in the afternoon, with a ready pole, at the stream behind my house, and i don't want to touch filthy things"

b) Who complains about being friend zoned hasn't got the problem of getting married or just engaged with his target, he wants just a piece of pussy, and if someone outside the target will casually offer it to him, he will gladly accept and forget the target.
On the other hand...
since 300000 years women punish behaviors they claim to appreciate and encourage behaviors they claim to despise... that's not the right way to train a puppy. XD
User avatar #142 to #26 - funnyrage ONLINE (06/05/2013) [-]
the instructions were not clear enough, i got my dick stuck in a tree....wait i just lost my virginity!
#37 - javalavalay **User deleted account** (06/05/2013) [-]
It's kinda hard being always the nice guy    
when you're always there for everyone but nobody has your back.    
it happens to all of us
It's kinda hard being always the nice guy

when you're always there for everyone but nobody has your back.

it happens to all of us
User avatar #128 to #37 - wellfuckmylife (06/05/2013) [-]
Most of them don't, but some of them do. Friends change. Best friends change. But there are also friends, who are there for you for lifetime.
User avatar #185 to #37 - semierectnipple (06/05/2013) [-]
Most of the time, I don't want people being there for me, I rather dealing with my own problems on my own, even if I can't deal with them..
#193 to #37 - anon (06/05/2013) [-]
Everyone's the "nice guy".
User avatar #209 to #37 - TwistedBamboozler (06/05/2013) [-]
Two things:
1) Either find new friends because your current ones are douche bags who you can't depend on
2) **** everyone and only take care of yourself. Sounds like a better use of your time.
User avatar #77 to #37 - snowshark (06/05/2013) [-]
Well, I'll point out a couple of things that should make you feel batter.

1) You're on FJ. Dude, we got your back!
2) If that's what you're feeling then you've really got to develop some mental defences for that kind of thing. I spend most of my life alone in my room either studying or browsing the internet because I live in the arse-end of nowhere where the only time I get to see anyone who even knows what a meme is is when I stroll past a mirror.

Sill, I deal with it and make the best of the situation. Think of it as if you were an anime character. You gotta get stronger so you can beat those evil emotions and then you'll finally meet your senpai/waifu!
#67 to #37 - anon (06/05/2013) [-]
"You know the best part? It isn't knowing that your friends have your back. It's knowing that you have your friends' back." - Matt Buckner
User avatar #42 to #37 - luuc (06/05/2013) [-]
Then you have ****** friends.
User avatar #160 to #42 - RisenLichen (06/05/2013) [-]
I guess I do
User avatar #49 to #42 - nocta (06/05/2013) [-]
^ this
#32 - anon (06/05/2013) [-]
the reason why 'nice' guys get put in the friendzone is because you don't actually make a move on her.

flirt with her, check out if it creeps her out or if she likes it, then ask her out.

in short: take a ******* chance, man.

if she rejects you, there are thousands of them left in your area.
User avatar #191 to #32 - brettyoke (06/05/2013) [-]
Agreed. I get ads all of the time telling me about women in my area, so thousands seems like a reasonable number.
#136 - furiousmarshmellow (06/05/2013) [-]
I was already an asshole to begin with.
I was already an asshole to begin with.
#15 - chudboy (06/05/2013) [-]
I saw his video, and immediately thought he hit the nail on the head with this "topic". I don't believe there is a friendzone. It's just guys who get pissy when they don't get their own way. I mean, if you're the type of guy who will act nice and decent to get a girl to like you, or to get laid, you are not a DECENT guy. Why get angry because a girl turns you away for being nice? You should be nice anyway, not act like you deserve an award for it. And why should this person fall for you anyway? They might genuinely just like you as a friend but no more. No attraction, or some parts of your personalty puts them off. Seriously, who ever came up with this friendzone ***** must have been the biggest whiney man child ever.
User avatar #58 to #15 - siridontcare (06/05/2013) [-]
:/ so much rage right now. I"m gay, therefore have no use for "friendzone" but I have seen the friendzone countless times. Its a friendzone more so when the girl knows damn well its a friendzone. I know countless girls that are nice and innocent on the outside, but often wrap men around their finger just because they enjoy the attention. Men can't help it. Its in their DNA to want to date (NOT **** , but just have a loving relationship with someone) and so they will often give attention and buy her things and try anyway they can to make them be liked. And the girl enjoys this, knowing full well why the guy is breaking his back. But they refuse to reject them, even flirt back, so they can continue to get the attention. IT ******* HAPPENS.
#212 to #58 - chudboy (06/05/2013) [-]
It's the guys fault most of the time though, not the girls. Sure their assholes for taking advantage, but the guys should be intelligent enough to not fall into the trap and make themselves vulnerable, by buying them **** . They should know this. But most guys just tend to get strung along with no hesitation of stopping and actually thinking, "Hey this is wrong, this girl doesn't like me the way I like her". You're forcing this person to like you by acting like a decent guy. It's not a natural attraction. If you're forcing this to be a relationship, and you get "friendzoned" it's your own goddamn fault. Relationships happen naturally, you don't force them. That's all i see from guys who claimed to be friendzoned. They force it, to the point where they do the most outrageous thing to get a girl. And it won't work until that person actually genuinely likes you. There's no problem with a girl just being a guys friend, or vice versa whatever. Why do people think they should deserve this relationship for just being nice? It's a flawed logic.
User avatar #197 - beatmasterz (06/05/2013) [-]
If you're a nice guy to a hot chick, hoping for sex, you're not a nice guy.
#127 - anon (06/05/2013) [-]
You know how many ******* angry comments I've left over the years on friendzone posts trying to communicate this point. I am a girl who has been accused of putting guys in the "friendzone" multiple times and all I can say is, if you get angry at a girl because she doesn't want to have sex with you you're NOT a nice guy. I could go on but I'll just say I am glad to see this community has grown up enough to see that.
User avatar #131 to #127 - wardylocks (06/05/2013) [-]
oh my god, yes! thankyou. i'm a girl who posted it, i couldn't agree more with this.
User avatar #135 to #127 - celaeneo (06/05/2013) [-]
Yes, I was just about to make this point and I've made this point before on here. It makes you feel even more **** when the guy you've been talking to, stops talking to you because you "friendzoned" him. It makes you realise he didn't even care about you as a person.
#148 to #135 - megnetuddki (06/05/2013) [-]
.....or he just ******* loves you and doesn't want to torture himself with your presence anymore.
User avatar #231 to #148 - nintendolover ONLINE (06/05/2013) [-]
If he loves her, then he shouldn't have a reason to be tortured by her presence. If he is, then that's entirely his problem.
#110 - crazyglove (06/05/2013) [-]
What I expected from the title.
#211 - AmaterasuNoOkami (06/05/2013) [-]
There's this guy I work with that always says 			****		 like "He's like the nicest guy ever.  Besides me, of course," and whenever something irritates him he goes "I'm not wrathful about it or anything" and kind of gives people who are pissed this condescending look.  He acts like an altar-boy just because it's his "thing" and it gets him attention, and it irks me to no end.     
TL;DR: You're only being truly nice if you're sincere about it.
There's this guy I work with that always says **** like "He's like the nicest guy ever. Besides me, of course," and whenever something irritates him he goes "I'm not wrathful about it or anything" and kind of gives people who are pissed this condescending look. He acts like an altar-boy just because it's his "thing" and it gets him attention, and it irks me to no end.

TL;DR: You're only being truly nice if you're sincere about it.
User avatar #23 to #11 - myrtille (06/05/2013) [-]
got anymore of these?
#202 - vomitjar (06/05/2013) [-]
step one: lift untill you look like him
step two: get dha phussyyyy
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