woes of highschool. Graduating the 31st then headed into ROTC at Morehouse. son? "i) his' = a M teach me avartar ?. gah I hate people like this. You can teach yourself or ask your parents how to balance a checkbook, a monkey could do it. But to learn more complicated concepts woes of highschool Graduating the 31st then headed into ROTC at Morehouse son? "i) his' = a M teach me avartar ? gah I hate people like this You can yourself or ask your parents how to balance checkbook monkey could do it But learn more complicated concepts
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#1 - biomedic
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(05/25/2013) [-]
gah I hate people like this. You can teach yourself or ask your parents how to balance a checkbook, a monkey could do it. But to learn more complicated concepts that your parents might not know, you need someone who knows what they're talking about to tell you.
#9 to #1 - anon
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(05/25/2013) [-]
I somewhat agree with you, however I believe that he has a point, because a lot of public schools don't teach you things like how to pay taxes, buy a house, or do anything vital to living on your own. You can teach yourself how to balance a checkbook, but a lot of high schoolers wouldnt even think about that sort of thing, so it would be a good requirement for schools. My high school was ******, and I would not have learned anything about taxes, credit cards and how they work, or anything to do with accounting if I had not taken that optional class in my last year, and I just think it's sad.
#18 to #9 - baldrian **User deleted account**
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#178 to #18 - ilovehitler
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(05/26/2013) [-]
Alternatively:

Learn about imaginary numbers
Go to university
Make enough money to pay your butler to do it for you
#25 to #9 - biomedic
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(05/25/2013) [-]
That depends where you live, most countries do offer this. It's your education minister's call as to whether accounting and stuff is manditory.
#61 to #1 - missrainbowdash
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#125 to #1 - anon
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(05/26/2013) [-]
Unless you're going into astrophysics or some other highly math-based profession, you're not going to need most of the things you learn in high school math. In fact, most classes in high school and middle school are only helpful to people going into careers related to them. It would probably be a better idea to either give students greater control over what they're learning or to teach them things that are more generally applicable. It's good to have a general base of knowledge to build off of, but I think the 6-7 years of elementary school covers that.
#182 to #125 - anon
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(05/26/2013) [-]
idk...high school students are still young and ignorant. most would probably pick the easy way out.
also, a lot of high school math is used everyday, people just don't realize it
#188 to #182 - anon
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(05/26/2013) [-]
well...the basics,like algebra, are used everyday
#220 to #1 - anon
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(05/26/2013) [-]
Highschool is supposed to help you be prepared for life, not prepared for a class you will NEVER take. This sort of math needs to be voluntary, with the more used stuff mandatory, plus things that actually HELP in life, I.E. checks, balancing, taxes, how to buy houses, how to manage your money, etc. because, believe it or not, a lot of parents don't know this kind of stuff, and some people don't have any parents to ask in the first place.I think I'd know, considering the only people in my entire city are idiots who don't know how to finance anything.
#216 to #1 - ieagle
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(05/26/2013) [-]
Parents?
#19 to #1 - galgawine
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(05/25/2013) [-]
ok but if you have any job other than mathematician or rocket scientist or something, what class is more useful, a class about finance/money/whatever or advance math that teaches you about functions, imaginary numbers, and the quadratic formula. Or whatever. About 99% of the population will never need anything past basic algebra or geometry and 99.99% won't even need that.
#224 to #19 - anon
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(05/26/2013) [-]
u need advanced math for finance and marketing...
#140 to #19 - toosexyforyou
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(05/26/2013) [-]
Everyone who takes school seriously wants those classes, have you ever thought of that? If you want to balance a ******* checkbook then scrap together enough money to pay for a bus ride and ask someone there, I'm sure at least 1 person on the bus has 5 minutes to teach you how to balance a checkbook.
#235 to #140 - anon
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(05/26/2013) [-]
and if I wanted to learn how to say, do my taxes or make sound investments? no one teaches that stuff in school, even though it's stuff everyone needs to know how to do, I even took electives that were supposed to teach you how to manage money and such, and the most we did was watch ******* mean girls
#26 to #19 - anon
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(05/25/2013) [-]
Even if you don't use mathematics itself, the subject teaches you to think logically and to do higher level problem solving. It's never a waste.
#20 to #19 - anon
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(05/25/2013) [-]
The reason they teach the entire population of a school the highest level of mathematics that they comprehend as individuals is to exercise portions of their minds and introduce new ways of thinking in regard to what's logical, problem solving, etc. The same way that music and art classes are important even if majority of the population will never become artists or musicians, It allows them to excel in life indirectly
#22 to #20 - galgawine
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(05/25/2013) [-]
Music and art classes are not required courses throughout your life like math classes are, at least in my high school, no music is required and art is optional after freshman year. And math really has little to do with logic and ****, that's science in my experience.
#170 to #22 - anon
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(05/26/2013) [-]
"Math has little to do with logic"
Stopped reading there
#50 to #22 - anon
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(05/26/2013) [-]
In the two highschools I've been to, and a few others I've considered, some kind of art/music/theatre class was required for at least 3 years of highschool.
#23 to #19 - biomedic
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(05/25/2013) [-]
Because denying people the means to better themselves and teaching them only how to knuckle to the capitalist system is pretty much slavery.
#24 to #23 - galgawine
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(05/25/2013) [-]
Who said anything about denying them the means to better themselves? I just think math shouldn't be a required class
#28 to #24 - biomedic
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(05/25/2013) [-]
I think it's only required because the general consensus is that it's a good investment for the entire future workforce to have a good degree of mathematical understanding, it provides a good foundation from which to further develop those skills if the job requires it. But I'm sort of in split mind over it, I agree with you that it should be within individual's freedom to choose, but there's no future for humanity if everyone's thick as ****.
#39 to #28 - anon
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(05/26/2013) [-]
It's called capital deepening....
#40 to #39 - biomedic
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(05/26/2013) [-]
exactly.
#5 - mohamedali
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(05/25/2013) [-]
How to Balance a Check Book: Dont spend money you dont have.
#103 to #5 - anon
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(05/26/2013) [-]
that's not actually what "balancing your checkbook" means.

you keep a checkbook to list all your deposits and withdraws.
"balancing" means you check your deposits vs your withdraws to make sure you have a positive balance. you also use balancing to make sure that checks and debit purchases have been cleared.
#45 to #5 - insertclevernames
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(05/26/2013) [-]
Then how are you supposed to build credit history? get a good credit rating? you have to take out loans and essentially "spend money you don't have" if you want to have anything down the road in life. how are you supposed to buy a house? a car? unless you're a millionaire i guarantee you don't have $200 thousand just laying around.
#93 to #45 - rainbowrush ONLINE
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(05/26/2013) [-]
I don't have a credit card, and never will. It seems pretty retarded to willingly put yourself in debt for no reason
#108 to #93 - paintmered
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(05/26/2013) [-]
I think his point is that you will eventually want to stop renting property and purchase your own, and it is unrealistic to wait until you have over $200 000. And believe me, you want to build a good credit history, even if you don't need it right now. No credit is as bad as bad credit.
#110 to #108 - rainbowrush ONLINE
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(05/26/2013) [-]
I just took up a 2M NOK loan based on how much I earn, to buy an apartment.
#107 to #45 - doyouevenniggerbro
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#80 to #45 - anon
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(05/26/2013) [-]
Actually that is incorrect. You want to build a credit rating? You go out get yourself a credit card. Use it to pay for only your gas. Your raiting doesn't go up more if you spent 10,000 dollars a month. It goes up the same if you spend 20 dollars a month. Pay off that card every month and just use it for gas. Don't go "Oh man that game looks awesome but I don't have the money to buy it right now I'll put it on my credit card" And to balance a check book well...that is just subtraction.....
#164 to #80 - ElegantSiren
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(05/26/2013) [-]
Just learned that in my college financing class. Best way to get credit is to open a low interest credit card and only buy cheap things you can pay back easily. Very simple.
#3 - echobase
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(05/25/2013) [-]
Hate those kinds of people.
Hate those kinds of people.
#29 - selfdenyingbeggar
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(05/25/2013) [-]
Aren't ALL numbers imaginary?
#168 to #29 - azinfoo
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(05/26/2013) [-]
www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EGDCh75SpQ

This video considers your question in great detail. Basically, you determine whether numbers are imaginary or not for yourself.
#32 to #29 - Flexo
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(05/25/2013) [-]
They're conceptual.
#34 to #32 - selfdenyingbeggar
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(05/25/2013) [-]
wouldn't concepts be a part of imagination?
#35 to #34 - Flexo
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(05/25/2013) [-]
yes
#65 to #34 - lolkizza
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(05/26/2013) [-]
not quite, i can give you 3 apples or 5 organes, or even pi bannanas or e grapes, so theyre all real, but i cant give you 3 - 5 i oranges, where i = (-1)^1/2
#66 to #65 - selfdenyingbeggar
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(05/26/2013) [-]
you can give me the apples but the number itself is imaginary. You can't give me a 3.
#68 to #66 - lolkizza
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(05/26/2013) [-]
thats like saying emotions or credit and debt are also imaginary,
#70 to #68 - selfdenyingbeggar
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(05/26/2013) [-]
credit and debt are. Emotions at the very least are vibrations in the brain? dunno.
#112 to #70 - paintmered
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(05/26/2013) [-]
This is the first deja vu moment I have ever had with and FJ comment.
#114 to #112 - selfdenyingbeggar
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(05/26/2013) [-]
why did you get that feeling?
#115 to #114 - paintmered
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(05/26/2013) [-]
I've seen a comment about Emotions that ended with dunno before.
#36 - prasopchai
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(05/25/2013) [-]
#204 to #36 - foxyloxxy
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(05/26/2013) [-]
funny how he plays a gay guy on glee...
#154 - doyouevenniggerbro
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(05/26/2013) [-]
God damnit FunnyJunk pisses me off, I've seen only 3 of the 5-6 dozen commenters in this thread that have actually defended the point made in this content (one even being an anon for petes sake). Its like your all disagreeing for the simple sake of doing so... because frankly, you people do this **** nearly every time. This community beats to death one perceptual viewpoint of an argument as if its one of the many universally agreed upon topics, like "murder is bad." Why aren't there any users saying things like "school is supposed to prepare me for life, this prepares most likely 1 or 2 out of every 30." Or "If I'm supposed to use this knowledge in a field of work that I just might go into, why I just focus that same time instead on a job that I want to get, there are things called Career and Technical High Schools you know." I just thought of two solid points right there, yet no one wants to have a debate, they want to simply tell the content that simply wished to make some laughs thats its wrong.I also frown upon how opinionated this site is, when its intended for humor... which is an admittedly an opinion.

TL;DR: unpopular opinion, bitching about FJ in general, paint me with red son.
#158 to #154 - toxicrocker
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(05/26/2013) [-]
i agree with you, and couldn't put it better myself. (really, i'm not very good at arguments)
#207 to #154 - garymotherfingoak ONLINE
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(05/26/2013) [-]
this
#214 to #154 - anon
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(05/26/2013) [-]
Amen, brother.
#234 to #154 - anon
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(05/26/2013) [-]
True. Everyone is defending math, but I think it's only to say indirectly, "Hey guys, I LOVE math. It's so great and amazing and this makes me a genius." Not everyone is going to need advanced math after high school, and it's perfectly fine to acknowledge that (and, yes, people are going to need to be able to do basic math). I think that math should be required for all students all four years of high school. My high school did and I thought it was great, but I had already planned on taking four years of math anyway. In high school, students are going to choose the easiest route, so it makes sense to force them to take math. If they had a choice, most would probably not take it and then regret it later on when they choose their career. However, I also agree that schools should teach stuff such as how to balance a checkbook, such as an economics or accounting class. To me, math and life skills should be two different classes. There's no need to choose one or the other.
#4 - KayRed
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(05/25/2013) [-]
I hate people like that, just because it isn't relevant to your dumbass doesn't mean it's not important to other people, so shut up and teach yourself how to balance a check book.
#7 - pooflinger
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(05/25/2013) [-]
Sometimes you have to learn the hard stuff in school, and learn the easy stuff on your own, or from family.



That's why math is important.
#160 to #7 - nigerotte
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(05/26/2013) [-]
i dot know why but I though u meant magnitude of sin(x) i was so confused
#86 - dunkleosteus
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(05/26/2013) [-]
I use algebra and calculus in CS all the time. Math is important if you're going into engineering or computer science. I don't like hearing people talk about how useless it is when I use it everyday.
#189 to #86 - dagreatmax
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(05/26/2013) [-]
Math is ******* easy for me. I learn it really fast but when it comes to the exam period I forget EVERY ******* THING. We have individualized classes in Adult ed. where you go at your own pace and I finished like a whole high school year in a month because I did the exam right after finishing my book and understanding, I tried traditional math, you do everything together as a whole class, it was easy to learn but then you're sitting in class for like 30 minutes doing jack **** because you understand everything but once at the exam I forgot every thing. it's really odd. inb4 charles dickins
#190 to #189 - dagreatmax
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(05/26/2013) [-]
P.S. I really want to do computer science but now that you said I must be good at math, I think I just lost my dream job or study.
#96 to #86 - luiselvergas
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(05/26/2013) [-]
well i am not going to be a ******* engineer i don't need that ****, but stills ***** up my GPA   
GIF not related
well i am not going to be a ******* engineer i don't need that ****, but stills ***** up my GPA
GIF not related
#97 to #96 - dunkleosteus
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(05/26/2013) [-]
what are you planning to do with your life?
#100 to #97 - luiselvergas
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(05/26/2013) [-]
marines, then high risk civilian contracting, after that hopefully tactical instructor and if i fail to start my academy or join one ill go for Law enforcement
#102 to #100 - dunkleosteus
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(05/26/2013) [-]
you still need to do well on your SAT which is like 1/3 math, isn't it?

this is what you're trying to get into -> You need to login to view this link mission-gpa-sat-act.htm

?
#105 to #102 - luiselvergas
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(05/26/2013) [-]
i dont need a college degree for what i just told you.........
i am not taking SAT or any of that ****
#113 to #105 - dunkleosteus
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(05/26/2013) [-]
why the red thumbs?

is this what you're looking for -> www.marines.com/eligibility/requirements

?
#116 to #113 - luiselvergas
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(05/26/2013) [-]
do you take me for a retard i know what i need fool it's not rocket science. i am going to be a ******* grunt. about the red thumbs.......Alot of people in FJ don't like when people thin College is a MUST when it's not.
#117 to #116 - dunkleosteus
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(05/26/2013) [-]
I didn't think it was a must. I don't live in the US, I didn't know if the marines was a college thing or not. I just googled it and it was the first thing that came up :/

sorry if I offended you
#120 to #117 - luiselvergas
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(05/26/2013) [-]
depends, if you are not going to be an officer, you do not need a college degree. But if you want to be an officer you do.
#122 to #120 - dunkleosteus
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(05/26/2013) [-]
ahh ok, thanks
#126 to #96 - sabcy
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(05/26/2013) [-]
when would that ever be relevant
#129 to #126 - luiselvergas
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(05/26/2013) [-]
you would be surprised.......
#98 to #86 - ellenrimbauer
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(05/26/2013) [-]
Its not very useful for a lot of people that don't want to go into an engineering or computer science career. I hate math, I don't think I'll ever use most the stuff I've learned in Algebra or Geometry, but just because other people that I graduate with might, doesn't make it important to me for any reason.
#173 to #98 - anon
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(05/26/2013) [-]
almost everyone uses algebra and geometry in everyday life.
most people just don't realize it.
#175 to #173 - ellenrimbauer
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(05/26/2013) [-]
Very true, but some of the stuff that I've had to learn just seems like I would never see it unless I became a math teacher.
#104 to #86 - UnoSkullmanx
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(05/26/2013) [-]
>implying that everyone is going to be an engineer
#106 to #104 - dunkleosteus
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(05/26/2013) [-]
no, of course not. A small proportion become engineers, but we couldn't have any engineers at all without the proper highschool education. I'm only saying highschool math is important, even if not for you.
#118 to #106 - zekeon ONLINE
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(05/26/2013) [-]
>implying high school is the only place this information can be taught.

If it was only being taught to people who actually gave a **** in college, that would make so much more sense.
#119 to #118 - dunkleosteus
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(05/26/2013) [-]
if someone needs to have a grasp of basic calculus before starting engineering, where else are they supposed to learn it?
#121 to #119 - zekeon ONLINE
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(05/26/2013) [-]
Gee iduuno, maybe a college course eh?
#161 to #121 - anon
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(05/26/2013) [-]
you're supposed to already understand the basics of calculus before you even get to college.

if you haven't taken Cal A by the time you're a freshman in college, you are already way behind. ESPECIALLY if you plan on getting a science or engineering degree. you can't even take a physics class until you get your math prereqs out of the way.
#123 - imcoolashell
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(05/26/2013) [-]
well if you let him explain what the imaginary number is, you ********