I won't take that bet.

Unless he's a deadbeat father (even then, as long as he isn't abusive), it should be a right for both the father and the children to still have contact with each other. At least as someone who never met their father thinks so.

Oh, lawdy. Don't get me started with a story time.
He wasn't deadbeat at all. After three years (which also meant him going to war and also getting a purple heart) of living with my mom in goddamn Kansas where she came from, my dad finally got custody. He fought for it, and he fought hard (with help from his new wife at the time, but nobody knew that >_>).

my mom did the same thing.


But my dad tried to have a secret second family, so I kind of understand it.

yeah, i thought that for a while, till bout 2 weeks ago when she left me for another guy, lol

...I'm really sorry to hear that.
It makes me tear up thinking, that our relationship ends, but I can't honestly think of a way how it could right now.
Well... **** , that gif man...I'm sorry to hear.
But never give up hope

i didnt think ours would end either but it did, and its okay, ill live and ****

I'm sorry to hear, as I said.
But good way of thinking.
Keep that.
I would end myself or do something stupid if it ever ends

just so you know, her and that guy didnt even last 2 weeks so that made me happy , but remember, always prepare for the worst

Some people make dumb descisions...

And no.
If I would be prepared for the worst, that would be the wrong set to start with.
Not what I call trust

it hurts me a lot still, cause we went through so much

One thing, that's where the sweet spot is, don't change it.

Marriage is just a piece of paper these days that can do nothing but screw you up. If you fear that she won't get anything when you die, write in your testament that you want it so. If she wants a ceremony, fine, but do not get the government in this, because that screws you up. Just write down that you want her to be able to decide over your fate when you are unable to, and you will have every perk marriage has, but it won't be able to screw you over.

Marriage was only done so that two people could love one another without anyone shunning them. In these days that is unneccesary. If you want to call her your wife, get her the golden ring, get kids, but do not get married.

Yeah.
Maybe I should have been more clear about that.
She is mad with the thought of having a big beautiful ceremony and she wants to make it official, not governmental official, that is.
And I don't worry about my money or stuff
It's all hers anyways.

But yeah. We'll think of a way.
I mean, that won't happen anyways in the near future. We have plenty of time

Take your time man, you really don't want to rush this, this is a great time if you make most of it.

pun not intended

Yeah.
Someone said that she and I are fans of slow relationships.
Right now we're just ******* around

She's probably ******* someone right now. That's what you get for having a happy thought.

Most probably not

I literally hate women... I love dating them and sleeping with them, but I literally hate them with a passion. They are soooo shady and manipulative even toward each other. I have gotten ****** over one too many times... I am not even going to consider getting married until I turn 30. I am going to let the single life ride until girls quit being so ******* insane about everything...

I had only like 3 women in my life and two of them were merely gfs
just sex
But I met my counterpart and I couldn't be any happier really.
It, well, completes me.
And I don't think women are bad or that they are less worth than men.
I love women the way they are.
There are many sluts out there.
Merely women.
But if you meet "the one", then you will maybe come back to this comment (prolly not) and ask yourself how you could have said that

I met one girl a long time ago I thought was the one (we dated 2 years), then she systematically ruined my life, made me look pathetic in all of my friends eyes, then cheated and left me for another person. To this day she still calls me up to have sex a few times a year but I can't feel love toward her or really any woman. I just give women a good time (how ever long things run their course) and move to the next one. I put myself into such a dark place I lost the ability to feel like a used to and can't get it back to this day. So no I probably wont ever get married unless I knock some bitch up on accident, but idk maybe there is hope out there

you are a beautiful human being.

Well...
I don't know you or your situation, but I can't possibly imagine her doing that.
I mean.
A whole nation of poets could write a life time on something to convey my feels for her.
And it still wouldn't be enough.
I could fill libraries about how amazing she is and such and so on and so on.
Love is a crazy thing, but I can't really imagine a life without it

imagine thinking you had the love you explained and finding out it was all a lie and then getting it torn away. You are left a bitter, jaded, misogynistic, shell of your former self... It sucks hard. Then the only way to fill the void is to get drunk and have meaningless sex until you don't care about anything love related

I can't imagine that and I don't want to.
I know for certain, that she wouldn't do such a thing.
But I know and understand what you are trying to say.
That really must suck and I am sorry to hear that.
But well, it could only be the loveblinded me, but I do think, there is hope.
There is always hope.

Not all women are the same.
And she is something special
yeah yeah, everyone says that, but I mean it.
And what can I do?
I was a depressed **** when I met her.
And now I am happy.
She is already my life.

boy there sure are a lot of double standards in there

the only one that really got to me was number 21. I've had mostly male friends my whole life because i could relate to them better and got along with them more. Girls hated the **** out of me for some reason

It's a completely BS list anyway. I stopped skimming at 8.

If I ever get a relationship, you can be damn sure that she will play video games.

"If I ever get a relationship"

Dude, take notes of at least some of the qualities on here. There are definitely at least a few items on that list that make women undateable, even if you're obstinate about it because you lack experience. Ask most anyone who's been around the dating block.

why'd you repost this comment after I replied to it.

For some reason I though I posted it in reply to Lintutu and ended up deleting that comment, a ****** on my part.

Brother, this list says not to date someone if they have red hair or play guitar. Obviously some of this is good advice but this list cannot be taken seriously.

"at least a few"

The person who wrote this list probably has a bit against women, but a lot of these are good points IMO. You'll get what I mean after a few relationships and become a bit more cynical about them.

who are you quoting by "at least a few"? I didn't say that.

There is no point arguing this, I've already said a lot of these are true because of common sense. Why would you date someone who is mean to waiters and narcissistic?

It's the ones I pointed out that sour the bunch. It's like saying

-brush your teeth everyday
-eat healthy foods
-aspire to be the next hitler
- ****** innocent people for fun
-floss your teeth

Point definitely taken that some of these don't qualify as total reason not to date someone. I think that the maker probably left them in there as more of a giveaway that some other major flaws listed could be present.

Using your video game example, everyone on the internet knows that most girls who act like they're all into gaming and other guy stuff are typically just ************ in order to gain attention and attract guys just for an ego boost.

I know, it sucks. The internet/gaming is a major sausage-fest and I hate seeing huge youtube channels and such growing like weeds to prey on the ratio. Anyone who is a gurlll gamerrr isn't special and quite annoying.

Yup, it sucks serious ass. Just find the right girl and stick with her. But damn are both parts of that sentence hard to accomplish.

And quoting myself by "at least a few" to refer to the fact that there are legitimate items on this list.

Okay, let me tell you right now, buddy, why this list of expectations is unrealistically high.
I'm going to attempt to cover this with the rough sense chronology in which each issue appears.

1: Do you know how many marriages these days end in divorce? Roughly half. Plenty of children have been raised by single mothers and have become perfectly well adjusted people. This is just a blind assumption of character based on one environmental factor. Don't let this cloud your judgment of the person you're considering. Take each as an individual case rather than just lumping them into a collective.

2, 4, 10, 12, 14, 24, 25: If you are just sitting there waiting for someone without a single insecurity in the world to come dropping on by and swooping you off your feet, then you are sadly mistaken. We all have baggage of some kind or another, both men and women. I can understand if you feel you are incapable of handling these problems, and that's okay, but know that in relationships, it is your job, as a significant other, to be as supportive and understanding of your partner as you can be. It takes time, patience, and effort to come to an understanding of these problems and it takes work to get past them. If you can't take the heat of it, get out of the kitchen. Just don't expect a perfect woman on a silver platter to be waiting around the corner.

3,5: I would like to take this time to ask you to find a women within your social ring without a single form of bodily art. Tattoo, piercing, or otherwise. Good luck to ya kiddo, because that ****** harder to find than the holy grail these days. Same with women who have dated. This isn't the 1950s anymore, kid. Women will experiment. In order to discover what they're looking for in a spouse, they will have to. And a part of that experimentation will mean sex. The likely hood is you are not going to bang a virgin. Deal with it.

6,13: Okay, this is just completely subjective. Congratulations is that's your preference, but to just throw a blanket statement that you should not date redheads because they're redheads is just vapid and close-minded. And that **** about "white woman who have dated ******* "? That's just ******* racist, dude. Why the hell should it matter to you? Is your masculinity threatened somehow by that concept? Do you believe it is a poor judgment call on the woman somehow?

8,9,18, 19, 23: Okay, so a woman by these standards cannot like asian culture, "guy things", or pop culture. Then what the hell can she like ? 19th century literature, classical music? Are we living in the Victorian Age? What relatability would she have with our world today? Would she just be completely removed from time itself? Expect her to have her own palate of interests. And some of those will not fit formally with yours. But that doesn't mean you shouldn't take the time to learn about these things. Open yourself to new experiences with her, as she should with you.

15, 20, 21: So "bros before hoes" is a one sided mirror then? A girl cannot rely on her friends if she is in an unstable relationship?

Friends will nearly always outlive relationships. Your friends have known you for far longer than any partner ,and will see from a clear perspective , as to whether or not a relationship with someone is right for you. An outsiders perspective should always be welcomed, for it is nearly always the clearest.

And to conclude with 22: Both perspectives in a relationship need to be viewed with equal amounts of dignity and respect. In a relationship, the lives of one should not fall to the knees of the other. It takes two, it takes two of you to come to understand each other, to give and take, and to make sacrifices to keep the relationship going strong and stable.

And with that said, that's about it for my tirade.
Take it for what it is.
Learn from it, **** on it. I don't care.

Have a nice day.

I've already offered a summary for you bro. I didn't write it, just posted it, so I can't exactly explain to your raging ass why certain points that you don't like were included in there.

As for this: "Learn from it, **** on it. I don't care."

You seem to care quite a bit. 2 walls of text with a distinctively booty-bothered tone would seem to go against your point.

Yes, yes you did offer me a summary.

One that was hardly even recognizable to the source material.

What you're posing is a "Gems in **** " case. That even though you personally don't stand by all of these points, that there are still some that you see as valuable. But if that's the case, you didn't show any effort in omitting materials you opposed. How then, are we to deduce that you aren't for all the materials mentioned in the original post? We can only take it for face value, and based on that, you only displayed yourself as an extremely idealistic douche nossel, who is simply holding themselves for someone, who frankly, is a impossibility to the modern age.

And as for "I don't care"?
I meant in terms of the results of this conversation.

You obviously didn't take anything away from it, I was simply venting frustration. Now that that is done, however, I'm not going to care what happens to you. I'm not going to wake up tomorrow and weep because someone over the internet does not agree with me. Whether or not you actually care to improve yourself on the basis of this conversation is your business. But if you want to hold adamant to select bits of this ****** montra, while posting it all, then go on ahead.

Then I'll summarize for you:

Don't get with women who are overly insecure and unwilling to change themselves for the better. Keep in mind that overly insecure women who are willing to change should do so because they feel they would be better for it, not because you may want them to.

Don't get with women who think they deserve to be treated better than others.

Bam, you're welcome. Have a nice day sir.

I have had some psycho girlfriends in the past and admittedly they all fell under at least a few of those categories you posted..

I came to the comments to say that looks like a child.