War HUH what is it good for. .. peace is the short moment when everyone is reloading War HUH what is it good for peace the short moment when everyone reloading
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#1 - lordvimless
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economy
#40 to #1 - Gandalfthewhite
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General population too
#2 to #1 - lordvimless
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history
#3 to #2 - lordvimless
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heath
#4 to #3 - lordvimless
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technology
#5 to #4 - lordvimless
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and "i has a bigger one" competitions
#6 to #5 - deathcampforjewtie
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This tomato is talking to itself.
#9 to #6 - lordvimless
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asked a question answered different times
#11 to #9 - deathcampforjewtie
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Now this tomato is talking to me. This is an interesting night.
#12 to #11 - lordvimless
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this 'mater can talk
#13 to #12 - deathcampforjewtie
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You are by far the nicest tomato I've yet to meet.
#14 to #13 - lordvimless
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well we all arent asses on here we have a few nice guys on here. im happy you prove this as well
#15 to #14 - deathcampforjewtie
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This was nice.
#16 to #15 - lordvimless
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indeed, well im going to my games and tv shows
Cat Planet Cuties if you like anime its funny but heads up its echi
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#157 to #15 - trivdiego
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you should be a documentary host. "Tomatoes of the wild"
#149 to #11 - theflamingfire
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No one ever talks to me
No one ever talks to me
#223 to #149 - intestines
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hi
#224 to #223 - theflamingfire
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Hello
#232 to #5 - cabbagemayhem
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History doesn't care one way or another. Economy, or more importantly, progression of world civilization, may be better off without defense spending (but not necessarily). War is good for two things, advancing Earths defense capabilities, and conquering people who sacrifice babies on an altar. Though, we're a little past that. With nukes and globalization, it may be time for peace. Certainly, there are many people who would like to not have to fight for their lives, continuously.
#139 to #3 - threeeighteen
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So true, Heath Ledger man...
#276 to #139 - lordvimless
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for ever remember him
#33 - charmanderman
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peace is the short moment when everyone is reloading
#7 - abachonk
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I simply hate human nature and the desire for destruction and slaughter.   
   
Imagine what would have happened if instead of making weapons we in on science?   
   
We would have evolved beyond the need for jimmies...
I simply hate human nature and the desire for destruction and slaughter.

Imagine what would have happened if instead of making weapons we in on science?

We would have evolved beyond the need for jimmies...
#230 to #7 - knowstoomuch
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most innovations, penicillin, antibiotics, vehicles, are made because of war.
#265 to #7 - anon
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It isn't a desire for destruction or slaughter, it's that humans are the only species that think something is worth fighting over. Other animals instincts for self preservation kick in rather than fight and potentially get hurt and not recover from it.
#275 to #265 - abachonk
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But I mean, why fighting, why not just try to create without fighting??
#274 to #7 - anon
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the pursuit of military superiority gave us all of our modern technology. every single bit.
#287 to #7 - anon
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Say what you want, but weapons are cool.
#8 to #7 - abachonk
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*invested
#10 to #8 - lordvimless
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wahh
#39 to #7 - Gandalfthewhite
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war helps keep the population from overflowing. If it wasn't for WW1 we would be insanely overpopulated
#42 to #7 - TheTurnbull
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WHAT DID YOU SAY ABOUT MY SPECIES?
I'LL ******* KILL YOU
#60 to #7 - MythBuster
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you know that computer thingy that you're reading this from?? yeah, well it was invented because of war.
#95 to #7 - sircontagious ONLINE
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You ALWAYS need jimmies.
#104 to #7 - oregmes
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science brought on weapons... ex: the nuclear bomb
#53 to #7 - propanex
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>weapons
>science

Bitch, science is what gave us weapons... (not taking about stones and sticks with rocks on the end of them)
Once we stopped shoving our dicks into the bible, and started exploring science, our way of killing each other increased... and increased, and increased.
#179 to #7 - undeadwill
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Well.
The very nature of evolution makes all life forms willing and able to do anything to survive, who do compete, fight, and dominate everything around us. Humans aren't the first nor the only animal to have these insane violent nature. Social animals wage war all the time, we are no exception to the rule only difference is we are able to do everything bigger badder and better than any animal in the animal kingdom. Giant Asian Hornets eliminate entire bee hives to eat the larva, some ants take larva to grow up as slaves, Apes fiercely defend their territory, turtles kill mates by flipping them on their back, Elephant Seals will crush a baby seal in order to mate with its mother and some ant blow them selves up when threatened and act as suicide bombers.
Our destructive nature is meant to produce the craziest, strongest, biggest breeders, toughest, adaptable, and smartest forces in the world. Every last one of us is meant to be the indestructible cockroach in our own way responding to our environment. Man kind was the first animal who was able to make every inch of this earth our bitch.

War is the collection of all these aspects of our nature along with a new one, paranoia. with a gun pointed at everyone's head, and hair trigger held back by a thread. Everyone looking to the sky and wondering whose going to throw the first punch because the if is not a question but when and who.
Even today war hasn't changed, in the old days animals fought for mates, fought for hunting grounds and resources so that this massive tribe of countries will rule one day. We traded fighting over farming land for rail roads, then oil fields. We seek to own and control because from this we survive and flourish.

War is mankind's nature to survive playing out however we have to change our ways before the thread unravels and the nuclear arm's race

All the knowledge, science, and wisdom in the world can't save us from ourselves.
#200 to #179 - abachonk
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You may be right, but what if we could change it and act like builders and not like destroyers?

We could make huge achievements and become aware of more important stuff beyond survival. With the advances we could make we could become protectors of life in our home and also protect ourselves from any kind of menace.
#249 to #200 - undeadwill
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The great thing about mankind is it's awareness of its own nature. We use brute means because they are what we know. We have shown time and time again our power has given us the ability to change the game.
#31 to #7 - moosespoon **User deleted account**
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You obviously don't understand that without modern weapons, manufacturing techniques and glorious science would be rather primitive today.
#122 to #7 - sidekickman
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Actually, without these wars, technology would be further behind. There would be less competition to outlive the other nation, so we'd find out what we need to survive and stop.
#119 to #7 - anon
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agreed!
#47 to #7 - Tazdingo
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War is the only reason science is funded well.
#117 to #47 - anon
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No, money is. There's a huge profit to be made in wars by selling weapons developed by science. If we found a more profitable venture, then there'd be no wars. Like space exploration due to resources being found on mars?
#17 to #7 - lexausaurusrex ONLINE
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**** would be boring and pointless ... war and conflicts are what drives us to achieve higher performances
#41 to #17 - winglit
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Plus videogames would be borin as **** if we didnt have the shooter and most RTS genre, what would we be left with?
#32 to #17 - dimppa
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i agree. and just think how many today's day to day technology is possible because similar stuff were needed in some war
#48 to #17 - hanakoikezawa
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Yup, without war the internet would never have existed.
#37 to #17 - zenherp
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I agree, war and fear of death is the most powerful human motivator, only there on the battlefield where all hope is lost you achieve your optimal state
#212 to #17 - anon
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true dat, nothing motivates more than a mistake, the will to beat the odds, for the underdog to rise up.

success kills ambition for success.
#59 to #17 - santathumbs
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>Implying science is boring and pointless
#216 to #59 - anon
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Science is pushed by war.
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#35 to #17 - mutzaki ONLINE
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I wonder if you'd feel the same if you were the one in the middle of a war zone, crying for your life. Suddenly you would have wished that things were less boring.
#38 - peggscott
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If anything, this just makes me think that war is more natural...
#49 to #38 - fargone
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Well, we've had a lot of practice and have gotten pretty damn good at it.
#56 to #38 - iforgetwhattosay
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well don't other social animal populations defend their territory and resources too? we just have new resources we think are vital, larger territories to fight over, and bigger and more powerful defense mechanisms to fight with.
#72 to #38 - deathhardiv
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The carnal desire to reproduce is also natural, but does that mean we should go around ******* as many women as we can?
#79 to #72 - peggscott
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well....
#259 to #72 - yunogasaii
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Because of moral guidelines that the society has set up today, it's not really accepting to just have sex with a lot of women. Back when we used to throw rocks at each other and grunt while drawing porn on cave walls, it probably was more acceptable to sex the place up.
#52 - agrofenlas
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Ze people want war, ve vill give zem war.
#204 to #52 - leto
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gentlemen, i love war!
#198 to #52 - chewieisthebest
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Comment Picture
#214 to #52 - alucord
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I told you it was nazi's
#161 - tasomo
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In the billions of years of life on this planet there has never, not for a single instant, been a moment of peace. Every creature, big and small, is on a constant search to feed. Sharks don't take days off and go playfully swimming with fish. Lions don't suddenly go "Y'know what, I'd rather go hungry today than eat that gazelle."

Quit with all this hippy "oh humans are so terrible" ********. Life is about survival and it's not about sitting around being all ******* happy and **** with our chill animal brethren because those very same animals you want to "live in harmony" with aren't worried about their 401k's or if they're gonna get a date to the prom. They're concerned about living to see tomorrow.
#258 to #161 - anon
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I understand your point, but there is a huge difference between surviving and mass organized pissing contests that waste life not for food and energy, but for ego.
#171 to #161 - largeheadphones
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I think the point is that humans can't get along with humans, you used lions, and sharks as examples,I dont see many sharks eating sharks, or lions eating lions, for no reason.
#176 to #171 - tasomo
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Except they do, and they do quite often.

Predators will eat what they must to survive and there are plenty of documented cases of predators eating their own kind. Sharks do it all the time. Look up feeding frenzies and you'll see sharks are far more bloodthirsty than mankind. The idea of saying "oh we can build cool stuff, that should nullify our desire to build stuff that kills" is pointless.

The vast majority of technological advances made by mankind have been because of our various militaries throughout history. In our attempts to make ourselves stronger or safer from other humans we have created amazing technological feats and we have done unspeakable horrors to each other. It is life, it's what we do. For all the atheists on this site who go on and on about the silliness of religion they should be the first ones to acknowledge that human beings are simply advanced animals but animals nonetheless.
#178 to #176 - sxeindi
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I think what largeheadphones meant was that lions don't eat lions for fun. You had examples of them eating each other in survival situations, which makes sense.
#208 to #178 - whymewhy
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we don't go to war for fun either, there is some reason behind it, not always a good reason but a reason none the less its never for "fun" so someone saying lions don't eat each other for fun has no relevancy
#180 to #178 - largeheadphones
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Ummm, sure, I guess.
#205 to #161 - doctorpibber
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except Bonobo apes, they just **** each other instead of fighting
#27 - therealtjthemedic
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>gas mask has no filter attached
>not looking at camera, disrespects cameraman
>mask is loose, doesn't look sealed
2/10 would not operate with
#141 to #27 - anon
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You haven't heard about m17 gas mask then. I own one myself with filter that looks like flat small lungs and attached from inside. Also the mask is not loose.
#44 - Paranoid Sniper
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am i the only one that honestly believe there will never truly be peace?
#45 to #44 - imakejewburgers
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Someday we'll all die, so there'll be peace then.
#46 to #45 - Paranoid Sniper
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i like that answer
#83 - typicalanomaly
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"I can imagine a world without hate or war, and i can imagine us attacking that world because they would never expect it."
#106 to #83 - shashashanasha [OP]
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Holy **** that's deep. Who said that?
#90 - thahobomaster
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It has been calculated that in the last 3,500 years, 3,270 of those years have been violent due to religion

and now its time...for religious *********

BRING IT
#107 to #90 - megaguyx
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Well, religion is how you get most common people to fight and support a war effort, it's not necessarily the cause.
#130 to #90 - slenderwolf
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That is very broad. The Mayans believed that to appease the Gods a human sacrifice is required. This spawned nearly daily skirmishes from religion but it WAS considered an honor to be chosen.
#151 to #90 - sagedivinity
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Religion is simply a tool of control in matters of war. The government sparking the war needs its people's support so they convince them there enemies are evil. Religion is not the cause of most of these wars it is used to support the war. You need to invade a country? Want the support of your people? Why not appeal to them tell them you enemy hates Christians, hates democracy, and wants to destroy them and you gain there support through fear. Don't blame religion for war.

not saying war has never been sparked due to religious beliefs
#121 to #90 - HarvietheDinkle
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Those years were caused by people abusing religion.

emoticons because **** you
#123 to #121 - thahobomaster
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Lol you act as if religion had nothing to do with the wars and violence. It's the FAITH in religion that compelled people to do what they did.

Though I do agree for the most part we as people suck.
#124 to #123 - HarvietheDinkle
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people manipulating others' faith, and even the faith in religion, isn't the same thing as religion itself.

Say that I declare that the truth of eveything is Tangerine. This isn't a religion anymore; it's a belief. Now, the belief of Tangerine isn't a bad thing on its own.

However, people start killing for Tangerine.

That still doesn't make Tangerine bad. It makes those people bad. And stupid.
#125 to #124 - thahobomaster
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Lol? Then how about I put it this way. Had the Tangerine not existed, there WOULD BE NO KILLING. The end.

#129 to #125 - HarvietheDinkle
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Well, there would still be killing, but for unrelated reasons. People always find a need to kill others. It is an aspect of human nature deeper than the desire to believe in a deity.

You shouldn't ban religion because people abuse others in the name of it. That just punishes those who don't. Instead, ban the abuse.

I find it highly doubtful that what i said was humorous.
#134 to #129 - thahobomaster
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Then in that sense, however you look at it Religion is toxic and is not completely, if at all innocent when it comes to the causes of violence.
#136 to #134 - HarvietheDinkle
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That's the thing - it's not religion itself. It's people misinterpreting religion. Those people are the fault; religion their tool.

Much like how an axe isn't bad, but a person using it for the wrong reason makes the axe seem bad. Even when the axe is going through another person's skull, it isn't bad. Because the axe is being misused.

Yes, religion is correlated with violence. And it can be an incentive to be violent. But it doesn't cause violence.
#143 to #136 - thahobomaster
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Sure, religion may not cause it, but what other tool could people use to brainwash such large masses of people to fight violently for a cause? Looking back at the tangerine example, no one can really say what would've happened had "tangerine" not existed, but you were right about how people would still be killing each other. But would it still be in such large scales as it is in our history? I find it very doubtful. W/e the cause of violence may be, I see religion on the same level.

#145 to #143 - HarvietheDinkle
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-politics
-money
-culture
-race

i thought of those other causes within 5 seconds.

of course, without religion, the world would have a lot less violence. I'm just saying that religion didn't cause the violence; it was simply an incentive. However, I still don't think that it should be banned, unless the religion says to kill others (rather than people interpreting it as such).
#150 to #145 - thahobomaster
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I'm content with the fact that you admit without religion, the world would have a lot less violence. I know my OP is worded badly, but you'd have to understand I was sort of ASKING for a pointless argument lol.

Good talk tho

But for the sake of argument, is religion really not the cause? It's like a baby with a gun, and the baby happens to kill someone. Cause of death? Gunshot wound or lack of parenting? I think it's up for debate.
#152 to #150 - HarvietheDinkle
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ok cool.

Still, though, religion is not the cause. In either case - gunshot wound or bad parenting - the gun isn't at fault.
#155 to #152 - thahobomaster
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Yeah, but there are those who don't think so. Why do you think gun control laws have become so controversial after all the shootings that have happened in the U.S.? That's why I think it's up for debate.

Theoretically speaking, if you ban something dangerous, there would be little to no cause of harm.
#156 to #155 - HarvietheDinkle
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for both of your points: of course banning it would be more practical.

but that's practicality versus ethics. Ethically, religion isn't bad; it's only a tool. Practically, it can lead to a lot of deaths.

Much like gun control. People, in an ideal world, should be able to have guns. It's just too dangerous to let them have too much of it.

Also, guns more directly lead to deaths. Simply practice religion (and nothing else), nothing happens. Shoot a gun? There's a chance.

The distinction between practicality and ethics is extremely important.
#159 to #156 - thahobomaster
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Yes, I agree with your last two points.

Though in my previous comment I was comparing guns to the violent nature of religion, the side that compels people to kill, completely contradicting the ethics of the religion itself.

But in the end, I still think it is much like a gun. Harmless if not handled and practiced. But can lead to bloodshed when otherwise. Surely you didn't think this whole time I meant getting up on a Sunday morning for churce is the cause of violence for the past 3 millenias lol
#160 to #159 - HarvietheDinkle
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Agreed with everything. You know, we're basically sucking each other's dicks right now lol

I just wanted to make sure, because other people have argued that absolutely everything about religion is bad.
#162 to #160 - thahobomaster
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I simply personally dislike it, but I can't argue that everything about it is bad.    
   
But yeah, let us end it here. I'll let you have the satisfaction of getting in the last word if you like lol   
   
Here's a funny gif for you
I simply personally dislike it, but I can't argue that everything about it is bad.

But yeah, let us end it here. I'll let you have the satisfaction of getting in the last word if you like lol

Here's a funny gif for you
#92 to #90 - pizzapastasaurous
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What about the Norse Tribes ? The Anglo-Saxons under Alfred, the Mongols... I could go on. But wars are not caused by religion, religion is just an excuse to start wars.
#100 to #92 - alhemicar
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^exactly
OP's comment was ********
#93 to #92 - thahobomaster
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Yeah but think about the other events that could be going on at the times of those events. And I'm pretty sure those tribes/civilizations you mentioned fought for a faith (religion) and not just blindly raiding everything in sight.
#96 to #93 - pizzapastasaurous
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Well not for arguments sake just to clarify the tribes (Norse) fought amongst each other and the Britons for land. Not religion. And you can not say one absolute truth then deny all over evidence 'violent due to religion', however many wars are caused by other issues. Resulting in irrefutable prove that religion did not cause all of man-kinds wars.
#99 to #96 - thahobomaster
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Then I guess that time period is a part of the 230 years of peace lol
#101 to #99 - pizzapastasaurous
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lol.
#98 to #90 - sirbutterballs
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It's calculated that in those 3,720 3,270 of them are actually cause by greedy men.
#102 to #98 - thahobomaster
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Men who are greedy for the need to spread their faith through violence maybe lol
#103 to #102 - sirbutterballs
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No cash, resources, land. They use religion as a tool to bend the place instead of using it for peace. Those men are called assholes.
#105 to #103 - thahobomaster
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I assume you are implying people are materialistic and past wars are caused by men's need for material things such cash, resources, and land.

That's not a fact lol. That's your opinion.
#127 to #105 - dwarfman
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That's pretty much fact man, sorry not everything is religion's fault my good atheist bigot.
#108 to #105 - sirbutterballs
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I had no more suitable image and I meant to post this one not that. I don't check the image before I post sometimes.