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User avatar #143 to #35 - sepheroth (05/13/2013) [-]
I was a personal chef for a few months, a while back.
The diet I was working on was the Thrive Diet, if you know it. Part of my job was to read that book, learn it. Know how to better use some of the stuff in it during the guy I was working for's day.

Unless you're working with a ridiculously thought out and planned vegan diet, you're missing plenty of vitamins and protein. Also, if you're not buying from farmer's markets or at least organic, you're getting plenty of unwanted stuff.

A proper vegan diet is expensive as hell. Meat is cheaper.
Also, it's ******* delicious.
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#131 to #35 - flutterbye (05/13/2013) [-]
Okay smarty pants. Explain Vitamin B12.
It is a dietary requirement for humans that is almost exclusively found in meat products and plays a key role in the function of the brain, nervous system, and for the formation of blood.
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User avatar #256 to #146 - flutterbye (05/13/2013) [-]
"Tempeh, miso, sea vegetables, and other plant foods are sometimes reported to contain vitamin B12. These products, however, are not reliable sources of the vitamin."

Check your sources.

The fact is, humans are omnivores. Our anatomy dictates it. Yes there are plenty of ways to meet the same dietary requirements in the vegetarian lifestyle, but I respectively disagree that it will become the norm. Unless, of course, there is some mass extinction of livestock though in such a case I suspect that we will find some other creature to cook up for dinner. It's instinct.
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User avatar #260 to #259 - flutterbye (05/14/2013) [-]
I hope you're right about people becoming less selfish and violent, though unfortunately I don't believe word peace is something we will witness in our lifetime. My faith in the human race is small.
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User avatar #110 to #35 - thedarkestrogue (05/13/2013) [-]
When mankind as a whole gets a little bit wiser, a little more conscious and a little less selfish eventually being a Carnivore will become the standard.

The fact is that the human body does not require vegetation, it's unnecessary.

People are just reluctant to change and don't like to be challenged, they're brought under the notion it is normal and will do anything to justify it as long as it doesn't involve change or effort on their part.

I never preach about bacon because it's just one of the many things that will solve itself when mankind becomes more loving, more compassionate.

All hail the bacon overlords.
#107 to #35 - hellfiazz (05/13/2013) [-]
Humans don't need vegetables either, and they're much less tasty.
User avatar #98 to #35 - diffusion (05/13/2013) [-]
Human body does not require meat? Where the hell did you get that? Hilarious. Tell that to a miner or a construction worker. Vegetarianism will never be the standard. Period.
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User avatar #252 to #103 - diffusion (05/13/2013) [-]
I'm not saying a vegetarian diet isn't healthy but it will never be the standard.. Sorry.
And your story is kinda farfetch'd. Bye.
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User avatar #97 to #35 - violentpixi (05/13/2013) [-]
Higher intelligence came from human ability to digest meat as we get the proteins needed without the long digestive process after we discovered how to make fire. Smaller stomach, larger brain. Without delicious cooked meat, you'd still be Homo Erectus.
User avatar #82 to #35 - RageRambo ONLINE (05/13/2013) [-]
Found the vegan.
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User avatar #55 to #35 - trollmobile ONLINE (05/13/2013) [-]
had not our ancestors eaten meat, we'd not be nearly as smart as we are, and being a vegitarian wouldn't even be a concept.
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User avatar #246 to #71 - organiclead (05/13/2013) [-]
We're not ******* elephants. We are, biologically, scavengers. We may now have the technology to find plants that fit the needs that meat once served, but our body evolved to function on a diet with some meat in it. Have you ever noticed that a complete vegetarian diet usually has food that doesn't all come from the same region? You shouldn't be arguing that humans don't naturally need meat, you should be arguing that humans are awesome because we found a way around our need for meat.
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User avatar #251 to #247 - organiclead (05/13/2013) [-]
Very true in the India part.

I just get tired of the argument that vegetarian diets are the natural state for humans to eat in. They're not. They tend to be a very conscious, carefully decided choice. If we were all naturally vegetarians, eating meat would be considered a really devious, odd thing. I do think it's cool that we've found plants that can give us the vitamins we normally get from meat, I just could never live on a vegetarian diet without getting some sort of allergy to meat.
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User avatar #99 to #71 - violentpixi (05/13/2013) [-]
Are you comparing the base intelligence of an elephant to the self conscious achieved by the latter stage of apes? Orangutans like eating meat.
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User avatar #135 to #128 - violentpixi (05/13/2013) [-]
Funnily enough, humans require higher function motor and thinking skills than an elephant. Capacity of intelligence in terms of higher thinking which separates us from all animals is biological which develops from an omnivorous diet. Our ancestors hunting and cooking meat, which made for quicker digestion of more nutrients is what allowed you to be able to have the brain capacity to be able to think.
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User avatar #210 to #207 - violentpixi (05/13/2013) [-]
Quicker digestion through cooked meat (which cannot be achieved by raw or the quantity needed of plant matter) = smaller stomach needed = bigger brains. I've said this before
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User avatar #72 to #71 - trollmobile ONLINE (05/13/2013) [-]
elephants may be relatively intelligent, but they're nowhere near the level of the great apes, and especially not us.
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User avatar #77 to #75 - trollmobile ONLINE (05/13/2013) [-]
yeah, and we're practical and lazy, whatever gets what we want/need the quickest and easiest, is what we choose.
we even often choose a worse outcome for the sake of an easier journey.
that's how humans are, and most other animals too for that matter.
we're programmed to be lazy and creative.
User avatar #105 to #77 - srhdragon (05/13/2013) [-]
are you implying that hunting animals is lazier than picking berries
#53 to #35 - outerfiend ONLINE (05/13/2013) [-]
ya, thats not gonna happen, meat tastes good so people will continue to happen, and if "meat is murder" then how about you think of all the plants you kill to make your food, and before you say "but we can grow plants" we can make animals reproduce, and eventually we will get to the point were we can fully clone animals for food. your argument is invalid
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User avatar #36 to #35 - nooneofinterest (05/13/2013) [-]
I agree with you completely. Even though I love the taste of meat. It is just senseless breeding of animals just to kill and eat them. But most of the counter arguement comes from the self righteous attitude of vegans and vegetarians. Both sides of the argument are valid.
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