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#7 - rprol (05/10/2013) [-]
I genuinely felt cheated when the natives won in that film. I just felt like I had watched the 'family friendly' ending rather than the true ending. The film could have been an epic documenting the relentless consumption of resources no matter the moral cost but seemed to wimp out.
I genuinely felt cheated when the natives won in that film. I just felt like I had watched the 'family friendly' ending rather than the true ending. The film could have been an epic documenting the relentless consumption of resources no matter the moral cost but seemed to wimp out.
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User avatar #21 to #17 - kurbads (05/10/2013) [-]
I know right? Like the mid-22nd century Earth army has any chance against glorious blue stone age master race.
User avatar #13 to #7 - thinkwithportals (05/10/2013) [-]
Right? Like they expect us to believe that the humans would have lost and given up
#1 - zestyfiesta ONLINE (05/10/2013) [-]
"Spam as your pity. anal." -Text recognizer
The quote would be so much better if it just ended here
#2 to #1 - davidavidson (05/10/2013) [-]
#16 - mikeliterous (05/10/2013) [-]
Human master race reporting in.
#15 - cydom (05/10/2013) [-]
The thing that pissed me off was that there was really nothing gained by the ending other than a "lesson" to teach mankind, that they can't take whatever they want. Problem bieng it translates into "These aliens are dangerous and cannot be negotiated with, as was our initial hope, before our negotiators went native."

Also as far as I understood it, the situation on earth was dire, with his brother killed and Jake crippled as a result of the wars and terrorist acts which are now commonplace thanks to the collapse of our energy supply.

The main good guys basically fail to do their jobs to help displace and move on the people in the tree so they can get to "THE LARGEST DEPOSIT ON THE PLANET" and then go home. This wasn't a step along the way, this was the mother load before they may as well turn back and go home. They **** up all attempts at peacefully resolving the situation, become so heavily invested in them they refuse to see any compromise and then force the hand of the paramilitaries, many of whom are told will likely die on this planet and therefore are clearly desperate to be taking this job, all probably having sob stories like Jakes disability, like a sick daughter to take care of or their own crippling diseases before it kills them.

Their attempt to negotiate were only hampered by their negotiators. Humanity proved they could move them by force, but instead spent billions on making bodies they could use to effectively communicate with them.

In the end, the true monsters are the human commander who seems to enjoy this all, and Jake, who, hellbent on revenge (or more likely re-proving himself given his later stunts) rallies up the entire planet to remove the humans, who he probably knew would leave after mining the tree anyway. So nothing is achieved apart from revenge, he forced the hands of the humans who respond to him raising an army and are then slaughtered as well as the aliens and sets Earth back into a desperate decline.

**** you Jake Sully.
#38 to #15 - anon (05/11/2013) [-]
I think this is the most intelligent comment I have ever read.
User avatar #40 to #15 - binbunny (05/11/2013) [-]
I like the movie, it's an interesting story but I totally agree. We needed it more than they needed a tree, on a planet full of tree. Oh, the best little caveat, SULLY NEVER ******* TOLD THE BLUE CAT PEOPLE WHAT RDA WANTED!
#25 to #15 - ttmab ONLINE (05/11/2013) [-]
That was ******* beautiful, man.
#31 - fitemeirl (05/11/2013) [-]
Here, take the big wallpaper version.
#43 to #31 - nisten (05/11/2013) [-]
curse my less than 1920x1080 screen.
#34 to #31 - mrmamric ONLINE (05/11/2013) [-]
But that one's smaller than OP's.

InB4 "nothing's smaller than OP's".
#11 - pocoyothegreat (05/10/2013) [-]
If the movie wasn't complete 			********		, they would've surely given some LIBERTY to those tree huggers...
If the movie wasn't complete ******** , they would've surely given some LIBERTY to those tree huggers...
User avatar #14 to #11 - mrwalkerfour (05/10/2013) [-]
probability that they came back with ALOT more soldiers and combat systems, and obliterated them is high. no business would just give up a trillion dollar operation because some blue alins beat there "guard force"
User avatar #36 to #14 - insaneguy (05/11/2013) [-]
or they could just nuke the ******* from orbit
User avatar #51 to #36 - mrwalkerfour (05/11/2013) [-]
nah it would irradiate the area and delay the operation. better to just go in hard and smash them with superior weapons and armour
User avatar #53 to #51 - insaneguy (05/11/2013) [-]
The kind of radioactive fallout you're talking about is airborne, and its effects are limited to contaminating the food supply etc. They aren't farming the land, just mining it, and they're all wearing airtight breath masks anyway.
User avatar #54 to #53 - mrwalkerfour (05/11/2013) [-]
well that wouldn't be as fun! i want massive airships bombing the **** out of it and machine guns ripping those "steroid rhinos" in two and sylvester stallone hunting blue guys whilst arnold covers him self in poo and screams
#55 to #54 - insaneguy (05/12/2013) [-]
That... should be a movie.  I see your point, sir.
That... should be a movie. I see your point, sir.
User avatar #3 - dabronydude (05/10/2013) [-]
wow that was, amazing.
#30 - whoovesthedoctor (05/11/2013) [-]
The main problem i had with the movie was that the advanced earth civilization had the technology to transverse the stars in large transport ships, but did not have the capability of firing long-range missiles from orbit?

and for those who can, re-read the speech in his voice
User avatar #32 to #30 - generaljosh (05/11/2013) [-]
Well, there are no hostile, space-faring aliens, nor are there space-pirates or any sort of space-war between rival nations, so presumably space-warfare isn't exactly a thing in the Avatar universe.

All of the weapons of war they use on the surface of Pandora appear to be simply retrofitted machinery that would normally be used for menial tasks. If I recall correctly, the walker/mech things don't even have guns. The VTOL craft could easily be simple recon vehicles, retrofitted with missiles on the fly in order to attack the natives.
#52 to #32 - rprol (05/11/2013) [-]
I read on somewhere once that the reason they simply didn't just nuke them from orbit was because they were a mining operation and that nuclear weapons were forbidden without express permission from the central Earth government.
User avatar #39 to #30 - eldinarcus (05/11/2013) [-]
And then you realize, Zerg master race.
User avatar #50 - chayio (05/11/2013) [-]
"We cannot match the strength of wolves. We cannot hear a grasshopper alight five meters away in a jungle. We cannot walk on branches without slipping and falling. We cannot interface with animals to make them tolerate us. We do not have neural links to a planetary deity to receive instructions on how to thrive in a hostile environment."

"We are frail in body, not mind or soul. We are not weak because we fight in armor. We are not cowardly because we strike our enemies from afar. We are not evil because we harness the power of destruction. It is merely equalization. We are somewhere in the middle of all the life on our planet, and every one of them has and is trying to kill us."

"See this hammer? This is a tool, a weapon, and a means. With this hammer, we battled the world's greatest terrors and won. With this hammer, we built villages, towns, cities, metropolises, civilizations. With this hammer, we harnessed fire, steel, and lightning to our bidding. We constructed machines, vehicles, and titans of iron to tame the wilderness. We fought our way into our place in the world. We did all this; to forge a safer place for our children. If there is a better way, we did not receive any messages."

"And do not talk to me of your 'moral integrity'. I have seen rage, jealousy, religious indignation, lust, apathy, and failure to forgive amongst you. There is nothing wrong with our nature that you do not have."

"In the end? You are no better, Na'vi."
#41 - eaglesftw (05/11/2013) [-]
If you read this in an optimus prime voice it makes it beyond badass.
#6 - TierceJaphrimel (05/10/2013) [-]
Didn't that guy die?
#47 - iamphoenix (05/11/2013) [-]
What's this? An inspirational picture thread? Why, I do declare!
#48 to #47 - iamphoenix (05/11/2013) [-]
#35 - voidwards (05/11/2013) [-]
Humans forge alliances and Federations.
Terrans forge Empires.
Humans get abducted by aliens and anal probed.
Terrans slaughter invading fleets and burn their worlds to the ground.
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User avatar #4 - gilliam (05/10/2013) [-]
And is there anything wrong with a population living in in comfort the way they did before you arived?
User avatar #12 to #4 - TheFreak (05/10/2013) [-]
There is if you want to make a cool speech.
#10 to #4 - anon (05/10/2013) [-]
Yes there is: they won't be likely to keep you away from getting things your way, over them if necessary, now that you have arrived.
#8 - platapus (05/10/2013) [-]
He is going on about the wonders that humanity has acheived, but most of those acheivements were created on the back of suffering. the pyramids were built with slaves, the industrial revelution was to the backdrop of hideous poverty, we spend millions on space travel when people are starving to death. Humanity may have acheived more than the Navi, but we have a much ******** track record

And that film sucked.

end rant
User avatar #24 to #8 - angrytoilet (05/11/2013) [-]
Provided you're speaking of Khufu's, Khafre's, and Menkaure's Great Pyramids at Giza, then you're wrong. The pyramids were built by thousands of skilled workers. Ancient Greeks believed it was built by slave labor because they could not fathom free people creating such a massive, complex structure. Of course, these Greeks could not talk to the builders or any of their children or their children's children, because the pyramids were built THOUSANDS of years before the Aegeans assembled to form the Classical Greek city-states of which modern society is so fascinated.
User avatar #28 to #27 - angrytoilet (05/11/2013) [-]
Though I'm an engineering major, art history is one of my favorite subjects. Also, I'd like to inform you that, in the scope of recorded human history, people's lives are improving and violence has decreased greatly. Great diseases have not ravaged entire populations in centuries, new treaties and the UN have prevented many major conflicts, and because of the increase in general intelligence, domestic violence and accidents have also decreased. For instance, the average teenager today would be considered a genius (by measure of IQ scale) in 1910.
#19 to #8 - sonsofsol (05/10/2013) [-]
Suffering builds wonders. Nothing truly great was ever achieved without some poor bastard sacrificing something. Admittedly its not always the right bastard.

Also if your going to use the "no space travel because people starve" argument turn over your computer and internet connection because both wouldn't exist in the same way without our space exploration and attendant technologies. Go aid the starving if its so important because space is important too.

The film was pretty if predictable.

end of rant.

ps: I don't hate you but you were WRONG ON THE INTERNET. It's srs bisnes
#22 to #19 - dafukdude (05/10/2013) [-]
well said sir
well said sir
#26 to #19 - platapus (05/11/2013) [-]
im not disagreeing with you on any of these points, im just saying that I would rather have been born in a society where people wern't forced to suffer for other people wonders.

I'm not saying we shouldn't be exploring space im just saying that governments suck at prioritising fixing the standard of life for those who need it, before raising the quality of life of people who are already well off.

I don't hate you either, but I do not believe I was wrong
User avatar #5 - viscerys (05/10/2013) [-]
Don't they all live in a massive hollowed-out tree?
User avatar #18 - cadaverbox (05/10/2013) [-]
which is exactly why i hate ******* klaatu
he can suck a fat gangrene chode for all i care
User avatar #56 to #18 - klaatu (05/14/2013) [-]
**** you too.
User avatar #57 to #56 - cadaverbox (05/14/2013) [-]
eat dick hippie alien
User avatar #58 to #57 - klaatu (05/14/2013) [-]
Of which species?
#42 - anon (05/11/2013) [-]
Human, reporting in.
User avatar #37 - nachobeldavid (05/11/2013) [-]
I've never seen this movie, but it recalls something from Mass Effect's 'Encyclopedia' about the Humans compared to the other races.

How humans only live for about 125 years (In the future), and they use that time to build, expand, create, and destroy. This made humans the most determined and abled species, or some **** like that.
User avatar #44 to #37 - TimBisley (05/11/2013) [-]
Pretty sure it was Liara or another asari who said that, and how they thought a short lifespan was a weakness but came to see it as a strength, giving us our drive and determination.
User avatar #45 to #44 - nachobeldavid (05/11/2013) [-]
Oh yeah. its been a minute since I've played it.
User avatar #46 to #45 - TimBisley (05/11/2013) [-]
Me too, actually.
**** it, gonna go replay the entire series now.
User avatar #49 to #46 - Ectheliun (05/11/2013) [-]
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was Liara because she's talking to Shepard about how she lives for 1000 years and thought the human's lifespan a weakness. But like you said, it was actually a strength that fueled mankind's determination to thrive.
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