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> hey anon, wanna give your opinion?
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#16 - holler
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User avatar #98 to #16 - theelderscrolls
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I have no idea who you are and why people are excited about you.







but i could care less.
#193 to #16 - cormy
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Good times...
User avatar #91 to #16 - benedicto
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holler!
it's you!
#43 to #16 - miscarriage
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Oh ****, it's holler.
#32 to #16 - Cleavland Steamer
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it feels great to use this again
User avatar #102 to #32 - theflamingfire
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Who is holler?
User avatar #125 to #102 - Cleavland Steamer
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the funniest commenter of all time
User avatar #143 to #125 - gamerfan
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what about phanact? he's quite funny.
User avatar #144 to #143 - phanact
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ehhhhhhhhhhhhhh I was never that funny
User avatar #162 to #144 - waffies
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Goes to show that you got mentioned and not I!
#106 to #102 - historydudeguy
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I've been here for a bit and even I don't know.
User avatar #107 to #106 - theflamingfire
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Your name is so blue......
#2 - nicopwnz
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I'm afraid of whats to come in the future of gaming.
User avatar #115 to #2 - xzynth
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holy ****... because EVERY new game is like "NOW" and EVERYTHING was great before.. We just don't remember/was able to care or notice the games was lacking content. Most here are 18 and where kids back in those days. Shut your god damn mouth, enjoy your games and don't buy **** from EA if you don't want to pay extra!

/rant over
User avatar #20 to #2 - emptysuperman
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I don't really play new games yet. The newest game I have is Devil May Cry 4 and the newest after that is maybe Devil May Cry 3 or Kingdom Hearts 2 (not sure which is older). I do plan playing current games a few years from now, so what exactly is this problem? Could you give an example or this happening in a game?
#6 to #2 - kleantd
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i never seem to notice this
User avatar #21 to #2 - TheMagicBong
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Jokes on you, you can only buy $10 or $20 at a time
#127 to #2 - onceapiece
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An expansion pack for a gamecube? I don't think so...
User avatar #147 to #127 - fuzzysixx
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Computer games had expansions by that time. Warcraft 2 and Starcraft for example.
#194 to #147 - onceapiece
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I'll have to take your word on that, although I don't think that you can say those games were complete if the ones today aren't. The ones today have a lot more stuff inside of them.
User avatar #145 to #2 - dayasalion
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wait. so in 2005 they sold you DLC of an exact part of the game? well if there are people stupid enough to buy that then good for them.
User avatar #149 to #2 - beavatonn
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I Finally understand the joke after seeing this post :O :O :O so true.
User avatar #3 to #2 - grayham
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What games do this happen on? because I have never really experienced a lot of missing content pre-DLC like everyone claims to be an issue. DLC is almost 100% add-on for my games.
#4 to #3 - ogomer
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It's pretty much only big companies like EA that actually cut out parts of their games and sell it like DLC, which is as mainstream you can get in gaming. In other words, if you play games that aren't mainstream, you're pretty much safe. So I wouldn't worry to much over this becoming the norm. We have also seen a huge rise in the popularity of games made by indie developers. So the industry is far from being in danger of stagnating.
It's pretty much only big companies like EA that actually cut out parts of their games and sell it like DLC, which is as mainstream you can get in gaming. In other words, if you play games that aren't mainstream, you're pretty much safe. So I wouldn't worry to much over this becoming the norm. We have also seen a huge rise in the popularity of games made by indie developers. So the industry is far from being in danger of stagnating.
#28 to #4 - lordraine
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But the fact that only big companies do it does mean it's become the norm. That would be like saying nearly all major car developers are making five wheel cars, but a few small car startups and independent manufacturers are making four wheels, so don't worry, because five wheel cars won't become a trend.

It's already become a trend. There is no "it won't." It already is. It's just a question of whether or not the consumers can get them to stop doing it.
User avatar #5 to #4 - grayham
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Thanks for the info and for being understanding and polite.
#15 to #3 - firesky
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The best example I know is Mass Effect 3 and the "From Ashes" DLC which lets you see the story from a completely different angle (imo). It was released at the same time as the game so it's pretty obvious it was just about money.

#73 to #15 - breakfastlunch
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Don't know why people are thumbing this down.  "From Ashes" is the best example I have for this occurrence as well.  EA didn't even try to hide the fact that it was blatantly removed from the finished game because they released it alongside Mass Effect 3--It was released on the same exact day.  That's not expanding upon the game.  That's making a game unfinished on purpose just to squeeze an extra $10 out of the customers.   
   
It's brilliant business tactics, but it makes me goddamn furious nonetheless.
Don't know why people are thumbing this down. "From Ashes" is the best example I have for this occurrence as well. EA didn't even try to hide the fact that it was blatantly removed from the finished game because they released it alongside Mass Effect 3--It was released on the same exact day. That's not expanding upon the game. That's making a game unfinished on purpose just to squeeze an extra $10 out of the customers.

It's brilliant business tactics, but it makes me goddamn furious nonetheless.
User avatar #45 to #3 - ElegantSiren
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Perfect example would be Mass Effect 2's DLC Lair of the Shadow Broker, it adds a huge part to the continuing story line with Liara by making her the shadow broker and if you didn't play the DLC before playing Mass Effect 3 there are a ton of references to her being the shadow broker and the player has no idea what really happened. The same can be said for The Arrival DLC as well.
User avatar #89 to #45 - linklime
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The shadow broker was like a continuation, why would they not include that in mass effect 3?
A better example is Mass Effect 3's From ashes which is Day 1 dlc thats only free if you buy a special version thats very important to the story
User avatar #9 to #3 - aldheim
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Fallout New Vegas is a great example.
Throughout the main campaign, they make constant references to 'the burned man' as some kind of grand Mojave legend. And when you meet the courier dude in Primm, he talks about the dude who said 'let courier six handle the package' or something like that, making it seem like it was going to be an important plot point.

But both of these things you can only actually experience if you buy DLC.
User avatar #53 to #9 - themanwithnoplan
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Fallout New Vegas by itself was about the Mojave and the factions trying to control it.

The DLC stories were about the Courier.
User avatar #52 to #9 - instakill
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yes but without them you can easily just pass it off as general lore, nothing to worry about
User avatar #93 to #9 - pwoneill
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It is widely accepted that all the semantics of new vegas were left very open-ended because the project heads are currently obsessed with the legion, the mojave, and Arizona, and they want seamless integration if they are given the opportunity for a new vegas sequel
#92 to #2 - PrincessTwilight
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I did what I could.
#30 to #2 - tredbear
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excuse me? Ubisoft know how to play it.
User avatar #120 to #30 - sirgawain
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"Eat that, ************."
Pretty sure I heard Rex say that.
#17 to #2 - dragostarc
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I still have this picture from the last time I responded to this sort of picture
User avatar #36 to #17 - skinless
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bethesda games are still the ****
#23 to #17 - superblade
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i don't get the one wth bethesda

are you trying to say that it full of glitch?
User avatar #25 to #23 - primerpower
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if you look close at fallout games they are buggy but i find it makes the game more humorous
User avatar #50 to #25 - instakill
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well the reason bethesda games are so buggy is the fact that they are so immense and have so much code that in order to not make the games extremely outrageous in price and still be able to pay their workers they work out the biggest game breaking bugs and then when others come up they spot-check
User avatar #54 to #50 - primerpower
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as i thought...a environment as big as fallouts is bound to have **** they missed entirely or stuff that just got jumbled up
User avatar #60 to #54 - instakill
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well in order to test they generally have a computer simulate the character running, jumping, walking, shooting, and hitting every spot accessible, which is physically impossible in the timeframe that they have,
User avatar #62 to #60 - primerpower
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they did a better job of borders in New Vegas, i think. 3 was crazy buggy
User avatar #66 to #62 - instakill
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yeah, they have been working on more efficient ways of going about it, i theorize that what used to be done by one super powerful computer is now being split up and done by more of those same computers
User avatar #182 to #66 - primerpower
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ya 3-4 of those computers running the same thing would deffinatly make those bugs easier to catch...though i hope they dont get rid of all of them...ill kind of miss running through old olney and seeing a deathclaw shoot up into the sky never to be seen again
User avatar #24 to #23 - fedegon
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Full of bugs.
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#11 - Forfunaccount
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My mind wanders a lot.
#184 to #11 - weenieandthebutt
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The boy reminds me more of this guy
User avatar #31 to #11 - weirdvintagegirl
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THANK YOU, I thought I was the only one!
#12 - Forfunaccount
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How is that not picked up yet?
It's literally right by the change box.
User avatar #74 to #12 - warbob
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T-t-that thing!On the GAME OVER sign!Wasn't that one of those creepy things from video games about a rumored game that killed it's players :O name was oglaf or something.
User avatar #79 to #74 - qpcugh
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It's just a space invader..
#97 to #74 - anon id: 6422f677
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Are you really that dumb?
User avatar #29 to #12 - kommandantvideo
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That looks like a candy wrapper, not money.
#57 - maxoverderp
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Game companies have started charging us for more content because they need a way to make more money out of their property. When people pirate their games or companies like Gamestop resell their games, they don't see a single dime.   
   
I'm not saying companies should ship unfinished games, but as far as EXTRA content goes, we should all take it as a way to support the game designers who make the games we love, instead of complaining as if they're trying to jew us out of money that they live on.
Game companies have started charging us for more content because they need a way to make more money out of their property. When people pirate their games or companies like Gamestop resell their games, they don't see a single dime.

I'm not saying companies should ship unfinished games, but as far as EXTRA content goes, we should all take it as a way to support the game designers who make the games we love, instead of complaining as if they're trying to jew us out of money that they live on.
User avatar #82 to #57 - yugzer
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Agreeable, but at the very least, keep the pricing below $15. 20 is far too much for an EXTRA 4 hr campaign, expansion, what have you.
User avatar #105 to #82 - schneidend
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An "extra 4 hour campaign" has been sold as a $20 or more expansion since the dawn of time. They just used to always be on discs before DLC came to be. If you get your money's worth, $20 is just fine. It's when you pay $15 for two extra maps and NOTHING ELSE that you're getting screwed.
#90 to #57 - anon id: 806188a0
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When Gamestop sells new games, Gamestop only gets $4 from the game. Game companies make money off new games from Gamestop. Not arguing, just saying.
#126 to #57 - anon id: 4ccbb7b3
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Piracy has never affected how much money the companies get and it never will. Piracy would might have made me buy bioshock since I never was really interested in their games but hell i never tried them because the company was a douchebag.
#136 to #57 - anon id: 5fc4fa5b
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If I can't pay for it, I ain't gonna play it
#192 to #57 - qwertywtf
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Borderlands 2 was awesome. The DLC isn't needed to experience the game fully, I played it for months before getting any, and I can't wait for next week's, I'm gonna flip my ****.
#75 to #57 - taintedangel
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The ones who lose money from piracy aren't the devs, but rather the retailer that sells the games.   The retailers buys the game en mass and sells them at a slightly higher price to make a little profit on it themselves.  The more the retailers buy the game means it was hyped up to be a great game and the number sold is what the retailers tell the devs so they can get their numbers.   The devs get their money way before the games are even on the shelves.
The ones who lose money from piracy aren't the devs, but rather the retailer that sells the games. The retailers buys the game en mass and sells them at a slightly higher price to make a little profit on it themselves. The more the retailers buy the game means it was hyped up to be a great game and the number sold is what the retailers tell the devs so they can get their numbers. The devs get their money way before the games are even on the shelves.
User avatar #81 to #75 - makethingsworse
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Yes, but when you are buying a game directly from the company (i.e. Online download) the company is cutting the "middle-man" (i.e. Gamestop, Best Buy, etc.) out of the equation. Origin and Sim City, for example. Putting the game online is more convenient, but it's essentially at more of a risk of being "pirated". Companies like EA and Valve are selling games online so the profits come from two different avenues. That's why they offer bonus content for ordering directly from the game/ dev website. The whole idea behind sales is to make the space between the product and the customer as small as possible while also increasing gains. It's not an exact science, but the fact that we have Front Page content about Steam Sales should provide all the evidence to confirm.
User avatar #99 to #75 - maxoverderp
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Not if the retailers don't want to buy their games anymore because of lack of sales.
User avatar #100 to #99 - taintedangel
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then that's the fault of the dev for many reasons including:
-not marketing/hyping the game up
-the game was horrible
User avatar #103 to #100 - maxoverderp
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I mean, imagine a game sells a million copies at $40 a pop retail value, and they don't get credit for 1% of that amount, that's $400,000 gone-ski
User avatar #101 to #100 - maxoverderp
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Not necessarily.

If a game is huge and amazing, then it'll sell no matter what, but a large amount of the profit will be lost on things such as piracy, you can't blame game companies for trying to get the money they deserve.
#87 to #75 - anon id: 24188ef9
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but you fail to mention how sales numbers effects things. A game can be incredibly popular but if every one pirated it, good luck getting a sequel or a new game from the developers.
#48 - rshanebarnes
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#47 - fuzzum
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The problem is, and has been for a while.   
   
Game companies figured out how to **** us.   
   
They did not want to raise. Scratch that.   
   
They -wanted- to raise the prices of new AAA games to about $70-75 a pop, and EVERYONE **** their pants about it. So what they did is sat down and went "how can we still get that $75,  without changing the games selling price!"    
   
They figured out, quite slyly. "Let' take out, semi non vital elements of the game, that are very fun, and sell them as day 1, or future DLC, at atbout $10-15 each, we could make even more than $75 per game that way, and don't even have to develop anything new or extra!"   
   
they rejoiced and that's why you have games like we do today.
The problem is, and has been for a while.

Game companies figured out how to **** us.

They did not want to raise. Scratch that.

They -wanted- to raise the prices of new AAA games to about $70-75 a pop, and EVERYONE **** their pants about it. So what they did is sat down and went "how can we still get that $75, without changing the games selling price!"

They figured out, quite slyly. "Let' take out, semi non vital elements of the game, that are very fun, and sell them as day 1, or future DLC, at atbout $10-15 each, we could make even more than $75 per game that way, and don't even have to develop anything new or extra!"

they rejoiced and that's why you have games like we do today.
User avatar #108 to #47 - schneidend
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Most day one DLC is free if you pre-order. It's meant to encourage pre-orders and new purchases instead of used purchases.

The conspiracy theory that content is cut and shipped afterward as DLC is ridiculous nonsense. Content gets cut due to time and budget restraints, not the maniacal whims of some kind of game overlords with dollar signs for eyes. You're an idiot if you think DLC like Far Cry: Blood Dragon, Fallout: New Vegas: Dead Money, or Mass Effect 3: Citadel are already made and just sitting on a hard drive somewhere.
User avatar #55 to #47 - reaperssprint
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Still would of ended up with that even if they had raised the overall prices. It was inevitable.
User avatar #58 to #55 - fuzzum
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Somehow I doubt that it would be -as bad- today, if people hadn't screamed and threw hissy fits over a overall price change of $10-15 per game. It doesn't matter to me becuase I don't play console games and down own a xbox or PSx system.

I still think it's absolutely despicable, and if we could..pay attention for more than 15 mins at a time and fight them, we could make them stop doing that.
User avatar #65 to #58 - reaperssprint
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Of course, it annoys everyone but most people are too lazy to actually do something about it. All it would take is for people to simply stop buying the crap, but no. Everyone falls for the ********, nobody questions it. Say they offer something for $50, it will most likely only be $10-15 cheaper than if you buy every map pack released.

You just basically signed a binding contract that says, "It doesn't matter how ****** or worthless your content is, you already have my money and I can do absolutely nothing to get that money back". It leaves an open invitation for companies to half-ass content from then on out because they can't lose any profits on the products.

The only game I bought a season pass for was Borderlands 2 because it was a fun game and the pass was only $25 for all of the content released.
User avatar #70 to #65 - fuzzum
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Even then as much as I agree it's kinda retarded.

Everyone harps about piracy killing games and how much it ruins everything. Most don't actually understand the miniscule impact piracy has. Most, keyword most. People that pirate, can't afford to buy the game in the first place, so there was never a "lost sale" The people that -can- afford the game and pirate it to be dicks, do have a slight effect, but with the -millions- of AAA sales they make, it doesn't ******* matter.

The game companies, bitch about piracy, becuase they need something to point a finger at, and have nothing better to do. People pre-order, and that is the biggest evil we have. Pre ordering needs to ******* stop. It has to. The only and I mean ONLY time it had relevance was:

Back when games would acutally run out of stock, and you'd have to wait 5 days for a new shipment to nab your own copy. Back when you'd have to go to 4 stores to try and find a copy of whatever was super popular.

OR

When the game offers -real- pre order content bonuses. Not $5 for a new costume or a OP early game weapon. When you get a ******* full size 1:1 god-damned helmet, special hard protective case for the game, a whole grab bag of goodies and lore books. All sorts of fun trinkets, that add a ********** value to the game, and add a richer back story. And it game at about 2x the game price, but it's worth while things!
#19 - sirfistalot
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good old days
good old days
#80 - bigbeaufort
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What the hell is Chaz Finster doing in this comic?
User avatar #88 to #80 - shinypokemans
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The son kind of looks like Chuckie going through a goth/emo phase.
#124 to #80 - viewtifulbro
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Why is his son arguing about video games instead of bulling nerds?
Why is his son arguing about video games instead of bulling nerds?
#95 - greatcornholio
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the only ea game I have is spore

the rest is valve
#134 to #95 - anon id: 00e030e3
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Spore online system is ****
#155 to #95 - diegotan
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Me too mate, me too.
User avatar #187 to #95 - ghouleyed
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Same here tough my mother plays Sims and have bought all new stuff to it and i think it has made us loose more than 500€ on one game and it's content cause she had Sims 2 and now Sims 3.


We are quite poor family but almost everyone in my family has some addiction . . .
#129 to #95 - halor
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wish i could say that as well but i own all 3 mass effect games
wish i could say that as well but i own all 3 mass effect games
User avatar #133 to #129 - theshadowed
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Well, thats obviously acceptable
User avatar #96 to #95 - valve
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good good