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User avatar #113 to #60 - garaichu (05/06/2013) [-]

What is the matter with you!?
#62 to #60 - bitchplzzz (05/06/2013) [-]
That color wall, how dare you, you ******* monster.
#4 - callmemuffin (05/05/2013) [-]
Till] HIST MIMO   
#120 to #4 - powellrebecca (05/06/2013) [-]
can some one explain wtf these lightbulb things are?
can some one explain wtf these lightbulb things are?
#121 to #120 - mayihavecaps (05/06/2013) [-]
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Extracted text.
Some program attempts to read the content and repeat what it finds.
It's so people can just copy/paste text rather than the image, It's not that good, as you can see.
#122 to #121 - powellrebecca (05/06/2013) [-]
ohhh i think i understand. i just wasnt sure why exactly it was necessary....
ohhh i think i understand. i just wasnt sure why exactly it was necessary....
#123 to #122 - mayihavecaps (05/06/2013) [-]
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It's like feeding fire to a child.
You know it's going to end badly, but it's fun to see what happens.
#128 to #123 - powellrebecca (05/06/2013) [-]
ah! gotcha. thanks! :]
ah! gotcha. thanks! :]
#101 to #4 - mirrorsmirrors (05/06/2013) [-]
Whelp, I got red thumbs last time I said this, but this is the equivalent of that friend who repeats jokes out loud while you're watching movies with them. I will not live on a FunnyJunk where lightbulb reposts are top comment daily.
Whelp, I got red thumbs last time I said this, but this is the equivalent of that friend who repeats jokes out loud while you're watching movies with them. I will not live on a FunnyJunk where lightbulb reposts are top comment daily.
User avatar #112 to #101 - ICEDgrunge (05/06/2013) [-]
Leave then. Your protest won't change anything. People have tried for much grander causes in larger numbers and failed, friend. You aren't gonna have a happy ending handjob if you leave this spur in your side.
User avatar #143 to #112 - mirrorsmirrors (05/06/2013) [-]
Actually I've found that once stupidity awareness comes full force, FJ is pretty great at burning bandwagons. I'm just trying to be a small spark in a large forest.

I'm stoked that we're talking about this like it's human rights or something.
User avatar #24 to #4 - Snookbone (05/06/2013) [-]
#20 to #4 - tews (05/06/2013) [-]
i cry evrtim
#32 - whatasickname (05/06/2013) [-]
I 			*******		 love Louis CK.
I ******* love Louis CK.
#64 - weefee (05/06/2013) [-]
#11 - Antwnhs ONLINE (05/06/2013) [-]
#80 - kingpongthedon (05/06/2013) [-]
Really? Because "Eat **** and die, you cock-sucking ************** " is considered pretty offensive, but I don't really see it provoking a thoughtful discussion (outside of this very specific context). A fight maybe, but not a discussion or anything resembling a new thought.

Chances are, if you're offended, you have a reason. You've already had the discussion as to why you should be offended. They've had it as well, or else they wouldn't be able to intentionally offend you. There is no new discussion being had, it's just being a dick. There are discussions to be had that being offensive may raise, but being offensive draws a line in the sand that will prevent any meaningful progress from actually being made.

TLDR: No real discussion is going to be made with a self-righteous ass-hat.

Pic related: It's where I predict this post will drown for disagreeing with Louis CK on FJ.
User avatar #106 to #80 - Vandeekree (05/06/2013) [-]
I see your point but I think you miss his. The discussion is internal.

Now when you say "eat **** " you aren't actually telling someone to ingest fecal material. You are telling them they have done something wrong. This is where, I think, most offence happens. The person who was insulted then takes that internally and has to judge if they actually did something wrong, they try to see if your scolding was justified. That's how you make them think. They take into account all social and moral laws they know and determine if they are wrong, and that creates the offence, most often when they don't want to be wrong, but aren't sure if they are. Offence comes from doubt. Doubt that first the insult is true and secondly that it's a bad thing that it's true.

An example would be a fat person and a skinny person. If I were to call a skinny person fat they would look at me funny because they are clearly so skinny their belt won't go a notch smaller and probably take it a joke. The fat person, on the other hand, would actually get mad at you for reminding them the fact they are obese. It's offensive because firstly it might(in this case definitely is) be true and secondly it is implied to be a bad thing that they are that weight. It forces them to think and acknowledge that they are doing something wrong and that is offensive to them.

So perhaps it's true that all offence actually originates from the fact people don't like being told they are doing something wrong.
#127 to #106 - kingpongthedon (05/06/2013) [-]
Well, if the fat person just sees the person as an asshole, they're not going to see a reason, to change because that dude's an asshole, he doesn't matter, but if he's told "Hey, you might want to watch your weight for reasons a,b,c" they'll be much more inclined to get that internal discussion moving in a positive direction.

Regardless, I don't think internal discussion was at all what he meant. His go-example is the use of the word " ****** ". First off, tell me what the ****** (here meaning any black person, as that is to whom it is intended to be offensive) did wrong and what they can do to fix it. CK's answer is just to not be offended, because words have no power. That's absolute ******** ; not only is the vast majority of human success built on the power of language, but CK, himself, has established an entire career on his ability to use words. Do you see the hypocrisy there?

Words are tools. Offensive language can occasionally be a very useful tool, but it's meant for very specific occasions. It's a pneumatic hammer, loud, powerful, etc. It's useful, but it should not be your primary tool. It's something you use to make up for your own ability to hammer a point through.
User avatar #132 to #127 - Vandeekree (05/06/2013) [-]
I never said the method of criticism is effective. In fact I would say it's not the person they are insulting's well being they have in mind when saying such things.

When you call a black person a ****** then you are implying that what they are doing wrong is simply being black, you are saying being black is a bad thing, and because of the social norms of our society, black people who get offended over it do so because they have doubts that being black might somehow actually be a bad thing. This works like my fat person example, if you call a black man in a suit and tie who is the CEO of a major corporation a ****** he will probably look at you funny and think you are a sad racist. But if you call a poor drunk man a ****** he will get offended because you are saying there is something bad about his skin color and he sees that it might just be true and so get upset.

As for the second part, i would agree with him, simply don't get offended. You see, not all words have power, only true words have power. or more specifically, words that you can make someone think are true. If I started calling you a bunch of insults like chink and ****** and white trash and every racial slur, then would the racial slurs that refer to the races you aren't have any effect on you? Of course not(I hope) because there is no truth in your mind that, even if being other races was a bad thing, you are not that race, and so I can't be saying anything about you is bad. People only get offended at things that are to some degree, true.
#139 to #132 - kingpongthedon (05/06/2013) [-]
There are some very good reasons that being black is not a good thing in our society: even after accounting for other factors, lower incomes, higher conviction rates, less access to decent education, higher unemployment, etc are all prime examples of this. Trust me, well educated, highly successful black people are just as, if not more offended by the use of the word " ****** " and what it represents (and it represents a whole lot), as they are the ones who have experienced it at all levels. They are aware of how simply being born black can be a detriment in our society, and the use of the word ****** as an insult is testament to that inequality, whether you're successful or not.

On to B. All words absolutely have power, even if they are not true. Would I be offended on a personal level by your attack? No, but as hurtful/hateful speech was your intent, I'd know that you weren't a person who is going to push the discussion anywhere positive. Overall though, I would be slightly offended, as it was a personal attack, regardless of the validity of the statement. If you only interpret language literally, you're missing most of the action.
User avatar #142 to #139 - Vandeekree (05/06/2013) [-]
Whether or not being black is good or bad has nothing to do with our discussion. Something being good or bad in reality has nothing to do with whether or not a person will be offended by it, it all hinges on if they THINK they are being told something they are or are doing is wrong.

But it still stands that you are choosing to be offended. i have no idea what race you are but lets say I call you a chink and you are white. Would that offend you even if i said it out of pure hate? It shouldn't. You should be able to think for yourself that my insult makes no sense and there is no truth to it. You choose to let it effect you. So there has to be truth behind and insult in order for it to have power over you you don't give it. Now if you were white and i called you white trash then you have no defense against it sense the insult requires you to stop and think if you actually do qualify as white trash. Sense you are white then there is a chance that you are white trash, it's possible. However if you are white then it is literally impossible for you to be a "chink" whatever that means because one of the perquisites is that you are asian.

If i call you a chink then you only have to deal with my hate, that you choose to get offended at, but when i call you white trash you have to deal with both my hate and a possible truth. In that way, words do not always have power, only words that carry the semblance of truth.
#146 to #142 - kingpongthedon (05/06/2013) [-]
Being black being bad (sounds weird, but whatever) is the entire reason the word " ****** " has power (same is true with every other offensive term). There is a truth to the statement, and that's what causes the sting, it's a reminder that there is still a stigma about your race or background (lower-class white, myself) and inequality between you and the rest of the world. It's not that what you are is wrong, it's that the world sees what you are as wrong, and you have experienced actual pain as a result of that perception. It doesn't matter whether or not it's justified, if the world sees me as white trash, that's all I'll ever amount to. It's a reminder of all the ******** you've already gone through, most of it painful. It's not the word itself, it's the memories the word brings up, and those words are meant to bring up those memories. If you don't have the memories to begin with you can't fully understand why it's offensive to bring them up. You can't choose not bring those memories up, because that's an integral part to what the word means. Pick any word and when you say it, you'll think about more than just it's dictionary definition, you'll think about all your experiences with that word. It's not possible to just not get offended when offensive speech is used.

But even if you used an incorrect insult, I'd still be offended, because I'm an emotionally developed human being. As a human being, I want to be liked, it's hard-wired into our brains. When you express dislike for me, thoughts are processed, chemicals are released, and I feel like **** . It's a basic part of human emotions, if you aren't upset when people express discontent towards you, something is severely wrong with you. Furthermore, I'm offended for all the people you used as an insult. Empathy is a pretty basic part of being a human, if you can't see why you shouldn't throw a few billion people under the bus, then your emotional development is severely stunted.
User avatar #147 to #146 - Vandeekree (05/06/2013) [-]
But when it comes to being offended it doesn't matter what others think. It doesn't matter if every single person on Earth thinks you are white trash. It only matters what you think, what you let effect you. Nothing on the outside can get to you unless you internalize it. You choose to care what those people think of you, there is nothing inherent about it. If you believe yourself to be valuable then no amount of other people telling you otherwise can change it. But if you see reason to think they are right then you begin to believe it, you begin to see there might be truth to what they say and that's what causes offence.

That is what makes you able to simply control if you are offended or not. Words have no power besides the power you give them. Being offended comes from insecurity in something. There is a reason insults are often aimed at short comings. If you want to get to someone you insult their social standing or their physical flaws, you have to aim for the things they themselves believe are negative things. You'll never offend someone by hatefully saying they are handsome or angrily telling them they have a high I.Q.

So yes, you choose to be offended by letting yourself accept short comings and allowing those words to devalue you in your own mind.
#149 to #147 - kingpongthedon (05/06/2013) [-]
I'm going to be offended regardless, I can choose not to get upset about it or not to hold a grudge, but being offended is a gut-reaction, it's not a rational processed thought, and it never will be completely. Regardless, no matter how hardened you are, it's still going to hurt. I mean, if I hit Mayweather in the face, it's still gonna hurt him, no matter how much he's adapted to it. It won't hurt nearly as bad as when he returns the favor, but part of being human is feeling pain, whether emotional of physical, and you can't just think pain away, you can take your mind off it, but it'll still be there.

Also, there are ways of insulting everything, e.g. Pretty-boy and nerd for handsome and intelligent, respectively.
User avatar #150 to #149 - Vandeekree (05/06/2013) [-]
But that's not what I'm talking about. I don't mean you harden yourself to handle the blow of an insult, I mean you can simply convince yourself that you are not in the wrong and thus no insult can cause such a gut reaction. It's sort of like instead of taking a punch and being able to endure the pain, you simply avoid the blow and never get hit at all.

What I mean is, being called "Pretty boy" has the implication that you are effeminate. But if that guy is a handsome navy seal who considers himself to be more above averagely masculine then that insult would make him smirk. And if the smart guy gets called a nerd in the most negative of insults but he is one of those guys who labels himself as a nerd and likes that about himself, then the insult becomes a complement.

So yes, you can take the pain away by simply not letting yourself be bothered by such things. All you have to do is purge yourself of those insecurities and be happy with yourself and you can never be offended.
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#25 - bemmo (05/06/2013) [-]
#96 to #25 - anon (05/06/2013) [-]
stephen fry is one wise man.....
#66 to #25 - neokun (05/06/2013) [-]
To an extent. You can't just go around being a complete and utter faggot to everyone cause it don't matter if they are offended.
User avatar #93 to #66 - sepheroth (05/06/2013) [-]
I'm rather offended by that.
User avatar #145 to #144 - sepheroth (05/06/2013) [-]
Seriously though, what kind of asshole uses language like that? It's completely unnecessary and just alienates half the people that read it. It's just such an ugly word too. I mean, look at it: "cause." It's "because" you little bastard. Cause and Because do not mean the same thing!
User avatar #148 to #145 - neokun (05/06/2013) [-]
you need to get over the small things in life, in 60 years time is it really gong to matter?
User avatar #151 to #148 - sepheroth (05/06/2013) [-]
Yes! This is the internet! Nothing actually goes away!
User avatar #54 - waaw (05/06/2013) [-]
But you're still being an asshole
#2 - turtletroll (05/05/2013) [-]
mfw i try this and everyone hates me
mfw i try this and everyone hates me
User avatar #8 - snakefire (05/06/2013) [-]
That's why, as a christian brony who has been on funnyjunk for three years, My skills in debating have increased tenfold.

I am now a master debtaor.
User avatar #108 to #8 - zorororonoa (05/06/2013) [-]
Also who goes on 9gag occasionally. There, now you have the worst characteristics that someone could offend you about.
User avatar #9 to #8 - kieranbaker (05/06/2013) [-]
you also are a fan of Sonic the Hedghog
#10 to #9 - snakefire (05/06/2013) [-]
Yes, but there are no real hateful jokes about sonic or the sonic fandom on this site. It's all just "GOT 2 GO FEST" or "UR 2 SLO" And other various things that really aren't offensive even to the truest sonic fans.
User avatar #34 to #10 - fedegon (05/06/2013) [-]
Only things people can truly complain about is sonic 2006 and those original characters.
Especially the original characters.
#117 to #10 - comanderspy (05/06/2013) [-]
the age of the hedgehog is long gone, back in 2006 it was the 			****		 to hate on furfags, now i guess is ponies. very rarely do you see hate 'threads' about furries.
the age of the hedgehog is long gone, back in 2006 it was the **** to hate on furfags, now i guess is ponies. very rarely do you see hate 'threads' about furries.
User avatar #126 to #117 - snakefire (05/06/2013) [-]
I'm not a furry, I just like sonic.
#129 to #126 - comanderspy (05/06/2013) [-]
sonic is covered in fur, his best friend is a furball, ami is a fur thing , the only **** i think has no fur in the sonic universe is ******* cheese. (dafuq is that anyways)
User avatar #131 to #129 - snakefire (05/06/2013) [-]
Doesn't mean I'm a furry... Furries are people who wanna **** antrhopomorphic animals.

As I said, I just like the sonic franchise...
#135 to #131 - comanderspy (05/06/2013) [-]
i guess... i mean, furfags dont have a definition for 'cloppers' as bronies do. i guess they all just **** dogs or something

nice talking to you again bra
User avatar #136 to #135 - snakefire (05/06/2013) [-]
you too dood
User avatar #13 to #8 - motherfuckingkenji (05/06/2013) [-]
Before I highlighted and read your comment, I saw the word "brony" in bright gay purple.
Good job.
Your text color sucks.
User avatar #14 to #13 - snakefire (05/06/2013) [-]
In three days my text will be back to normal, but you will still be ugly.
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User avatar #65 to #14 - neokun (05/06/2013) [-]
why is ur text like that in the first place?
User avatar #78 to #65 - snakefire (05/06/2013) [-]
Got thumbs on random board.
User avatar #29 to #8 - ctenop (05/06/2013) [-]
and my years on funny junk have reduced me to a chuckling child at "master debater" :L
#119 - pixy (05/06/2013) [-]
Except when they just completely go all defensive and don't give your opinion two flying 			*****		 worth of time and immediately start insulting you back, turning it into a pissing contest...   
I wish constructive criticism would be more promoted in society.   
Pic relevant because...this thread needs more kittens?
Except when they just completely go all defensive and don't give your opinion two flying ***** worth of time and immediately start insulting you back, turning it into a pissing contest...

I wish constructive criticism would be more promoted in society.

Pic relevant because...this thread needs more kittens?
User avatar #72 - shamefulhumor (05/06/2013) [-]
On the flip side, censorship, under ruse of civility only enables stupid people with stupid ideas to continue being stupid.

You're not doing anyone any favors by mincing words, so don't.
#39 - anon (05/06/2013) [-]
Well then I guess the Westboro Baptist Church isn't so bad after all. Just a bunch of people trying to highlight what is important, the rights of gays and the value of our soldiers.
User avatar #46 - myrtille (05/06/2013) [-]
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User avatar #59 to #47 - exotic (05/06/2013) [-]
then add #t=2m30s at the end of the youtube url
automatically skips it if you want to show people like one scene on a video
User avatar #61 to #59 - myrtille (05/06/2013) [-]
User avatar #35 - douthit (05/06/2013) [-]
Not necessarily. Your sister ***** camels. I'm sure you've got some contemplating to do.
User avatar #40 to #35 - jarelk (05/06/2013) [-]
I'm contemplating what it would be like to **** a camel.
User avatar #42 to #40 - PartyPanda (05/06/2013) [-]
Those humps, those humps, those sexy camel lumps.
User avatar #92 to #40 - sepheroth (05/06/2013) [-]
How well hung is a camel?
User avatar #41 to #40 - bokkos (05/06/2013) [-]
I'm contemplating what it would be liked to be ****** by a camel.
User avatar #5 - ssurtrebor **User deleted account** (05/06/2013) [-]
So when I say "Dude, the way your dog died was hilarious, I laughed about it for days," I'm creating a discussion?
#7 to #5 - anon (05/06/2013) [-]
Because it actually was hilarious and the owner is trying not to come to terms with how hilarious it is. I don't find dogs dying hilarious btw.
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