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#136 - TheGreatAnon ONLINE (05/05/2013) [-]
#400 to #210 - krokberg (05/05/2013) [-]
Praise it!
#218 to #210 - minecraftbrony **User deleted account** (05/05/2013) [-]
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#7 - thebigfudge (05/04/2013) [-]
obligatory PC gaming master race picture
User avatar #513 to #7 - xapplemanx (05/10/2013) [-]
why the **** did i get a notification about this thread?
#148 to #7 - anon (05/05/2013) [-]
Too bad PCfags won't be able to play the glorious masterpiece that is GTA V
User avatar #216 to #148 - cycloneclone (05/05/2013) [-]
GTA V will come to Pc eventually.
#160 to #148 - anon (05/05/2013) [-]
Too bad glorious console master race won't be able to enjoy beautiful graphics and mods.
User avatar #328 to #148 - lolme (05/05/2013) [-]
Too bad your console won't be able to play older games.


We, the glorious master race are already playing the great games of the past.
#171 to #148 - anon (05/05/2013) [-]
Too bad console fags won't be able to play the glorious masterpiece that is Star Citzen.
User avatar #154 to #148 - pengasuar (05/05/2013) [-]
Uhhh yes we will fagtard
#519 to #154 - anon (05/17/2015) [-]
Get on my level, casual fag.
User avatar #317 to #148 - rohze (05/05/2013) [-]
I honestly couldn't care less. I have Sleeping Dogs, which is vastly superior in my opinion. Mostly because it looks decent and doesn't run like **** .
#417 to #317 - jinkazama (05/05/2013) [-]
>GTA V Unreleased.
>Runs like ****
>wut?
User avatar #511 to #417 - rohze (05/06/2013) [-]
Almost all of the GTA's have been complete **** ports which results in running like **** . Why would it be different with GTA V when Rockstar practically said " **** PC"?
#514 to #511 - jinkazama (05/06/2013) [-]
San andreas runs great! It played at 60fps for me even during the time i didn't have a graphics card in my computer. GTAIV didn't run well. But that's 1 game.
User avatar #518 to #514 - rohze (05/06/2013) [-]
Fro, what I remember, on release it was bad. Fixing it later is all nice and all but I would hope putting effort into the games from Day 1. My point remains though: From previous cases of PC GTA's it really doesn't bug me or the PC community as a majority if we don't get it.
#423 to #417 - hewhomtrolls (05/05/2013) [-]
probably meant GTA IV, which is the most horrible pc port i've ever had the pain to experience
#520 to #148 - anon (05/17/2015) [-]
Except they can. Too bad console fags can't DL free cracked game torrents.
#375 to #148 - anon (05/05/2013) [-]
just die
#198 to #7 - Naimzorz (05/05/2013) [-]
We truly are the master race
User avatar #49 to #7 - mastereleven ONLINE (05/05/2013) [-]
Is that the great gaben?
#122 - psychodreadnought ONLINE (05/05/2013) [-]
wut r u csual?

wat ringz u got?
#403 to #122 - krokberg (05/05/2013) [-]
48 vitality
66 endurance
12 attunement
16 ******* strength
10 dexterity, but dont tell any1 u leveled that up, u ******* faggot
User avatar #429 to #122 - awesomanium (05/05/2013) [-]
SHIVA THE EAST
MORE LIKE SHIVA THE DECEASED LOL
User avatar #153 to #122 - burndt (05/05/2013) [-]
Ring of Favor and Protection.
Health.
Endurance.
Stamina.
EVERYTHING YOU COULD EVER WANT.
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#133 to #122 - carioca (05/05/2013) [-]
bithc
#138 to #122 - killerblue (05/05/2013) [-]
Nevar dies
#170 to #122 - shadowwulf (05/05/2013) [-]
GIANTS

GIANTS

GIANTS

#12 - mikeW ONLINE (05/04/2013) [-]
#485 to #12 - anon (05/05/2013) [-]
wow so funny and original
well worth teh 168 thumbs
#510 to #485 - mikeW ONLINE (05/06/2013) [-]
Comment Picture
User avatar #183 to #12 - poiklman (05/05/2013) [-]
Which crime show is that from again?
User avatar #337 to #183 - CatfishCrothers (05/05/2013) [-]
Pretty sure it came form L&O: SVU.
#518 to #337 - anon (12/21/2013) [-]
I watched this episode today, suddenly jumped after recognizing it.
User avatar #412 to #337 - buttinspecter (05/05/2013) [-]
I can confirm. I am SVU.
#483 to #412 - crispykiller (05/05/2013) [-]
I can SVU. I am confirm.
#277 - shadowbloodedge (05/05/2013) [-]
Caterpie is best casual.
#143 to #44 - memetastic (05/05/2013) [-]
true but do you guys have any of that?
#130 to #44 - anon (05/05/2013) [-]
Do you not realize how long that list really is and how all of these things in the list are PERFECTLY perfect reasons to go to PC?
#145 to #44 - mrbull (05/05/2013) [-]
How is that being told? You literally listed twenty reasons yourself and then told us we can't use them to explain why consoles are inferior.
User avatar #163 to #145 - beefkakes (05/05/2013) [-]
Thats the joke. Its console games saying that we have nothing to throw at them besides that.
#195 to #163 - mrbull (05/05/2013) [-]
I was never good at picking up sarcasm over the internet. My bad.
User avatar #152 to #44 - spartusee (05/05/2013) [-]
Seriously, tone the master race fanboy neckbeardism down. I play on both and enjoy the pc more, but I'm not an elitist fag. Also I am ready for your rage.
User avatar #127 to #44 - mutzaki (05/05/2013) [-]
Fighting about consoles is like fighting over whose dad would win in a fight.

Ultimately, because I don't have the money, IT knowledge, interest in the maintenance of a gaming PC, or the *********** of ultimate graphics, and mainly because I'm a fan of Nintendo, it's just not the platform for me.
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#435 to #44 - gyssle (05/05/2013) [-]
+ Always on mics is the exception, not the nrom.
+ Alt-tab to take a break to check e-mail, go to FJ, or answer an IM chat.
-- Procrastination means is just a few clicks away.
#354 to #44 - walkingdisaster (05/05/2013) [-]
"More mature playerbase"
"More mature playerbase"
User avatar #50 to #44 - wizdude (05/05/2013) [-]
They last longer
Easier to play online
Go anywhere (laptops)
More games
Easier control for games
#77 to #50 - skorchy (05/05/2013) [-]
"They last longer"
PC's have a hell of a lot more things to break... + Viruses
"Easier to play online"
Not always the case. Some PC games are a real pain in the ass to play online.
"Go anywhere"
PS Vita, DS, etc.
"More Games"
Cool I guess? Not like you're going to play all of them in existence.
"Easier control"
Not really. Efficient would be a better word.

As for console vs. PC -
I like both. I don't really understand the fights between them. The above might sound pro-console, but it's just my perspective in the argument. They each respectively have a lot of pros and cons.
User avatar #128 to #77 - Timmietim (05/05/2013) [-]
>viruses
Check what the **** you download
i haven't gotten any in 5 years.

And on the more games part.
I personally enjoy RTS games a lot. So those may add to the total games.
#142 to #128 - skorchy (05/05/2013) [-]
RTS yes. Cant play RTS on console for **** . Total war series <3
User avatar #146 to #142 - Timmietim (05/05/2013) [-]
Warhammer m8
#182 to #146 - skorchy (05/05/2013) [-]
Never played it. I think I need to though.
User avatar #79 to #77 - wizdude (05/05/2013) [-]
I'm for both, but I like PC slightly better. And he said to list the reasons, so I did.
Yes I get it could've been a joke
#92 to #79 - skorchy (05/05/2013) [-]
It was a joke most likely. I lean slightly towards consoles because they're simpler. Though I still love a lot of PC games. (Like Neverwinter.. really fun)
#114 to #77 - anon (05/05/2013) [-]
PS Vita? DS? Filthy casual.
#52 to #50 - fuckyouto (05/05/2013) [-]
Try not to feed them.
User avatar #98 to #52 - curtkobain (05/05/2013) [-]
he doesn't seem like a troll to me. More like a joke towards console gamers. Because that list is ******* huge
User avatar #54 to #52 - wizdude (05/05/2013) [-]
The trolls? But they're sooo cute! Its impossible not to feed them!
#75 to #44 - frogmum (05/05/2013) [-]
That's why I spend my money on a PC and just buy used cheaper consoles.
User avatar #165 to #44 - CatHatMan (05/05/2013) [-]
1. "workout"
your muscles look twice as big when you are carrying a pc

2. "foot rest"
because you cant afford a real one

3. "puzzle"
Find out the best way to install the wires and cables.

4. "dietary supplement"
Who can afford to eat? i need $3000 for my 3way titan sli rig

5. "night light"
don't burn out your eyes turning on a lamp just use your 750 watt, color changing led nightlight
#275 to #44 - anon (05/05/2013) [-]
You can actually use a PC for other things that don't even involve gaming.
User avatar #280 to #275 - RamzaBeoulve (05/05/2013) [-]
Consoles have done that for quite some time as well.
User avatar #159 to #44 - kanpai (05/05/2013) [-]
how is the sound better for pc?
User avatar #173 to #159 - mondominiman ONLINE (05/05/2013) [-]
Sound card is better, at least it you upgrade it to a better one.
User avatar #166 to #159 - cough (05/05/2013) [-]
Sound cards.
User avatar #169 to #166 - kanpai (05/05/2013) [-]
isn't your tv usaly hooked up to a way better sound system then your pc ?
User avatar #177 to #169 - cough (05/05/2013) [-]
It depends on the source, (sound card) not the speakers.
#222 to #44 - anon (05/05/2013) [-]
please stop we get that pc gaming is superior, but not all of us are hardcore video gaming faggots
#461 to #44 - anon (05/05/2013) [-]
you can go to funnyjunk AND play videogames at the same time
User avatar #202 to #44 - tealkangaroo (05/05/2013) [-]
more games
User avatar #404 to #44 - Cloudlessewe (05/05/2013) [-]
I think the only main advantage of consoles is that some people have preferences of a controller over a keyboard when playing certain games; and maybe that you don't actually have to install the game, which may take hours for some people.
User avatar #242 to #44 - lizardnigger (05/05/2013) [-]
Give me 5 reasons not to abandon your console.
User avatar #384 - ronaldmc (05/05/2013) [-]
Everyone's talking about their hardcore pc gaming gear, and im just sitting here with a £3 wired mouse.
User avatar #490 to #384 - dzeusas (05/05/2013) [-]
I was ripped away from my baby, had to leave it at home, so now I have a ****** laptop and 2.0 speakers and a wired mouse for 8 euros. And this stupid 15' screen
#30 - nooneofinterest (05/04/2013) [-]
Do you even squat
#53 to #30 - fuckyouto (05/05/2013) [-]
What... Why?
#112 - holywarstpd (05/05/2013) [-]
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MFW he tells me not to touch him
User avatar #22 - astraea (05/04/2013) [-]
Laptops will always be casul
#373 - kingoftheinterwebs (05/05/2013) [-]
My wallpaper
#484 to #373 - anon (05/05/2013) [-]
You know yahtzee, the guy who makes those videos uses the term "PC master race ironicallly right? To use the sterotypes that PC gamers are up their own assholes, you know that right?"
#344 - anon (05/05/2013) [-]
>Implying that a razer blade laptop would not allow one to game
User avatar #352 to #344 - Mesmus (05/05/2013) [-]
>implying laptops are for gamers, or even makes them close to gamers
User avatar #353 to #352 - Mesmus (05/05/2013) [-]
I seriously hate laptops
User avatar #476 to #353 - joshlol (05/05/2013) [-]
I used to play wow on a laptop for 2 years rested on my lap, to this day my balls are a shade of red previously unknown to mankind.

Also if I try to play WoW on my current laptop (fairly high spec MacBook Pro) it switches from the onboard graphics to the GPU and that **** is LOUD and makes it very hot.

Gaming on a laptop isn't a good idea imo, I wonder if there are any laptops with a good enough cooling system to even play games for long.
User avatar #11 - ilovemyguns ONLINE (05/04/2013) [-]
How to have an awesome pc gaming computer.

Buy large cheap dell laptop, the largest ************ you can find. A large cased cheap ass 2002 dell is cheaper than just a frame. Not even kidding.

Take ****** micro atx motherboard and intel processor out.

Next, replace the cooling fan with a quad cooling fan that fits on the back. You'll want to drill small holes in the plastic in the back. If there's free space, there's room for a hole. Look at about 40+ holes all around that ******** back. You can also do the sides depending on the laptop, but you may have to drill in something to hold it in place.

Next, put BTX motherboard where micro atx went. There's enough spare room to fit a minifridge in there, it'll hold a btx. Next put on an AMD phenom or better processor. If it doesn't overheat, it'll take a medium quality quad core.

Next, replace the power supply. That's a peice of **** , I can find something better at fry's electronics. Look around for a power supply enough to power a small desktop. It needs to fit, remember, but the newer power supplies are quite small and powerful.

Next, replace the graphics card. I don't know what the turnout in processing will be, so run a test before buying a new graphics card.

Buy new ram. Save the old ram for another project or recycling. Don't throw it away. I got my memory from crucial, but you might be able to find it cheaper elsewhere. You should be able to hold and process 16 gb of ram.

Full project cost should only be $900-$1200, and it'll run far better than any other off the market **** you'll find.
#382 to #11 - anon (05/05/2013) [-]
Or you can just build your own computer rather than buying a ****** Dell in the first place? That'll save you a lot of money, and you won't have to do any drilling.
#505 to #11 - anon (05/05/2013) [-]
You are beyond retardation, there is no hell horrible enough for people like you.
User avatar #514 to #11 - furukawa (06/02/2013) [-]
Hi I was looking through my favorites and found this, do you have any pictures of yours? I would just like to see a finished one
User avatar #515 to #514 - ilovemyguns ONLINE (06/02/2013) [-]
A finished computer? Just google one.
User avatar #283 to #11 - botherandbefuddle (05/05/2013) [-]
That's nice and all..

But building PCs for me is like science, I have not a ******* clue how it works but I don't ask how it does work.
User avatar #14 to #11 - hydrosbro (05/04/2013) [-]
16 gigs of ram = overkill
phenom = old as **** processor
User avatar #39 to #14 - ilovemyguns ONLINE (05/04/2013) [-]
It's been a while since I've gotten my A+...
#25 to #14 - frogmum (05/04/2013) [-]
Overkill yeah, but it was so cheap I couldn't resist getting 16.
User avatar #16 to #14 - joeyliquid (05/04/2013) [-]
I think 16gb actually comes in handy. I find myself struggling with 8gb at times. I agree about phenom though.
User avatar #19 to #16 - hydrosbro (05/04/2013) [-]
If you're gaming, 8 gigs is enough. Editing a ton is for 16 gigs.
User avatar #301 to #19 - notandytags (05/05/2013) [-]
I think that 8 gigs is enough for editing.
I have 16 gigs, and I don't even utilize that much
it is handy, because the unused memory is used for caching.
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#21 to #11 - creepycreeper (05/04/2013) [-]
Do you have an actual How-To, pics, or vid of this? Thanks in advance!
#34 to #21 - zoidz ONLINE (05/04/2013) [-]
Got 2 'guides' tho they are a bit outdated, so prices are lower.
#35 to #34 - zoidz ONLINE (05/04/2013) [-]
2nd one.
User avatar #42 to #34 - kiratheunholy ONLINE (05/04/2013) [-]
Those are nice... but they don't explain the difference between ATI and Nvidia cards and how an ATI even if a higher model can cripple your system in extensive CUDA-using programs.

Neither does it explain that SSD's don't affect gaming performance. Some people make false-claims that they do but I haven't ever used an SSD and I'm able to run all the top games at the very least 60 FPS.

Finally it doesn't show how situational programs can affect whether AMD or Intel processors reign dominant. Most applications don't use more than 4 cores ever, making Intel reign supreme in this category. However some higher-end games can use more than 4 cores which gives AMD the upper-hand in that area.
User avatar #211 to #42 - zoidz ONLINE (05/05/2013) [-]
True, tho its just a simple 'price guide'. And I am starting to side more with AMD for having more cores with the low prices. (I use a lot of programs at once).
Intel is getting way too expensive to have something, and with their best processors they go and stop production of it (ex: 2500k) tho...gotta live with it. :| (They should extend their socket lifes to be longer tho.

Not sure if I had another guide which showed the AMD/Intel difference and recommended for X use.
User avatar #463 to #211 - kiratheunholy ONLINE (05/05/2013) [-]
It's pretty simple when it comes to processors. How it works is that Intel has higher powered caches as well as hyper-threading technology. They are on the more expensive sides, though in most programs they will run faster because most programs only use 4 cores at the tops, and 4 cores from intel is faster from 4 cores from AMD.

However if an application advertises itself being able to use 8 cores or more you'll wanna go AMD. AMD offers 8-core processors for 200$, AMD processors will last longer because in the future it's more likely for more programs to use 8 cores. 8 cores on an AMD processor are faster than 4 cores on an intel processor.
User avatar #494 to #463 - zoidz ONLINE (05/05/2013) [-]
Also you can make 8 programs run on each core for AMD as of where Intel would have the limit to 4 only. I'm currently recommending a lot an AMD build for friends since here the prices are VERY different from one another, also since the AM3+ architect is gonna have a 3rd release. I'm seriously wanting to make an AMD build just to test the things out/differences. :| Gonna rob a bank.
#60 to #42 - frogmum (05/05/2013) [-]
SSDs just help with loading times right? I haven't gotten one yet.
User avatar #63 to #60 - kiratheunholy ONLINE (05/05/2013) [-]
With an SSD you can look forward to faster disk-transfer rates. Your computer will start up faster, and files will take much less time to load. If any of those sound worth over 100$ then you should get one.

If not, then SSD's aren't your style.
#65 to #63 - frogmum (05/05/2013) [-]
Gotcha. Mine is always on and starts up fast enough anyway. I'll save the $ for something else.
#26 to #21 - frogmum (05/04/2013) [-]
This is a good start. www.tomshardware.com/reviews/build-your-own-pc,2601.html
Unless you really wanna do this method.
#27 to #26 - creepycreeper (05/04/2013) [-]
Thanks! I wasn't even expecting a reply. Thumbed!
User avatar #298 to #21 - notandytags (05/05/2013) [-]
logicalincrements.com
Note:This is good if you're a first time builder who's lost and doesn't know what to buy for your budget. However, I do recommend doing research and choosing your own parts.
Lifehacker (Short, to the point, but not so in-depth)
lifehacker.com/5828747/how-to-build-a-computer-from-scratch-the-complete-guide
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8MyhCCqDf8

And the longer, more in-depth, explanatory one (Good to watch when you have time to kill)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCjxMG4OLdE
www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKnbazLsM7g
Note: It doesn't really take as long as the previous video to build a computer. If you know what you're doing, it's fairly easy and takes about 45 minutes to an hour at the most.
User avatar #28 to #11 - irishhappyposter (05/04/2013) [-]
8 gigs is all you really need for harcore gaming, unless you plan to record it and run multible things in the backround
#287 to #11 - notandytags (05/05/2013) [-]
Or you can just,
You know,
Buy the motherboard/ other parts online like the normal PC builders
$900-1200 will build you a high-tier gaming computer, no BTX motherboards or old Dell laptops involved.
#172 to #11 - xyaleon (05/05/2013) [-]
Anyone know how good I did buying my computer? I bought all of this for around $1000 on Newegg.

1 x ($229.99) Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I53570K $229.99

1 x ($179.99) EVGA SSC 02G-P4-3653-KR GeForce GTX 650 Ti 2GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card $179.99

1 x ($139.99) ASRock Z77 Performance LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard $139.99

1 x ($139.99) Acer S231HLbid Black 23" 5ms HDMI LED-Backlight LCD monitor Slim Design 250 cd/m2 ACM 12,000,000:1 (1000:1) $139.99

1 x ($99.99) NZXT Phantom 410 CA-PH410-R1 Red Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case $99.99

1 x ($99.99) Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM $99.99

1 x ($89.99) NZXT HALE82-N NP-1BN-0650A-US 650W ATX 12V 2.3 and EPS 12V 2.92 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply $89.99

1 x ($59.99) Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Low Profile Desktop Memory Model BLS2K4G3D1609ES2LX0 $59.99

1 x ($59.99) Western Digital Scorpio Black WD3200BEKT 320GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache 2.5" SATA 3.0Gb/s Internal Notebook Hard Drive -Bare Drive - OEM $59.99

2 x ($17.99) NZXT Air Flow Series RF-FZ140-R1 140mm Red LED Case Fan $35.98

1 x ($17.99) LG 24X DVD Burner - Bare Drive 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 24X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model GH24NS95 - OEM $17.99

I had to build it all myself and bought a screen and keyboard for it. Friend gave me a mouse. He basically told me what I should buy. :) Better than buying a cheap DELL at least. I can run most games on high with this. Everything should be cheaper now too. :)
#282 to #172 - notandytags (05/05/2013) [-]
Phantom master race
User avatar #297 to #172 - jasonmaki (05/05/2013) [-]
i have the same casing but black, an 8 core amd fx-8120, an asus 990fx motherboard, 8gb ddr3 corsair vengeance and ive put $450 into my computer. just need a better graphics card and hard drive, cause right now I only have an nvidia 9400gt and 150gb of hard drive space but i can get 1tb for like $50-$60
User avatar #300 to #297 - xyaleon (05/05/2013) [-]
I bought an SSD because my friend said they were good... I'm going to get a TB drive someday if I can. I started from nothing and just got this one day, I was tired of my stupid ******* HP Pavilion Dv6 that constantly overheated. Also playing League of Legends on low sucks hard.
User avatar #302 to #300 - jasonmaki (05/05/2013) [-]
i know that feel before that i was playing games on my crappy single core laptop with only like 2gb of ram cant do much of anything, other than interweb
#129 to #11 - anon (05/05/2013) [-]
You are either lengthy with your trolling or retarded.

1)cheap thermaltake, coolermaster, or antec case $50, now skip the first 1/2 of this nonsense. BTW, there's no such thing as a quad cooling fan.......

2)BTX motherboards stopped being used 8 years ago.

3)The rest is also nonsense. Check tomshardwaredotcom for their $600, $1000, and $2000 quarterly gaming pc builds. Build off of their suggestions.
#178 - capnwetnipples (05/05/2013) [-]
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User avatar #427 - struckworld (05/05/2013) [-]
Haven't been here in a while, needless to say FunnyJunk is still **** .
User avatar #445 to #427 - Katzie (05/05/2013) [-]
Funnyjunk goes through a cycle of cancerosity, and it's at its absolute low at the moment. Things reposted straight from facebook with no amusing content at all get thumbed up, almost everything posted is a repost yet people feel justified pointing out it is a repost so people will thumb them up, and the pastime lately has apparently been mirroring tumblr.
The part where the cycle starts going up is when people suddenly look at what they're typing and go "What the **** am I posting", they pick another website like 9gag and start laying into them about everything wrong about the site, and trying to do everything in a more satirical way.
I hope FJ remembers that this isn't Facebook soon though.
User avatar #134 - occamsrazor (05/05/2013) [-]
Should be titled dorm move in day
#381 - triedanduntrue (05/05/2013) [-]
laptops arent always casual. i rock a laptop for arma 2/3, but its only because i travel for work. Does me just fine. I would definitely have a desktop though, if i didnt travel.
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