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#6 - kingoflint (04/29/2013) [-]
I am Muslim and this does not offend me in the slightest. That reasoning is ******* ridiculous! Nowhere in the Holy Quran, nor in the sayings of the prophet Muhammad (Pbuh) does it say that technological advance is prohibited. These extremists who say that "you can't listen to music blah blah blah" are complete idiots.
User avatar #38 to #6 - retardedboss ONLINE (04/30/2013) [-]
I have no intent to start an argument, I just have a question. Does the "(Pbuh)" stand for peace and blessing upon him? Is that just something you say after mentioning the prophet?
User avatar #39 to #38 - theunlimited (04/30/2013) [-]
It stands for "peace be upon him"
#7 to #6 - Rascal (04/30/2013) [-]
Yo man im sorry to say but youre wrong. It's open to interpretation, some scholars say you can listen to music some people say you can't. Just cuz you dont listen to music doesn't make you an extremist
#8 to #7 - kingoflint (04/30/2013) [-]
Ok, I'm sorry, I do agree that people are entitled to their own opinions and are free to interpret it however they like. BUT you really can't dispute the fact that there is no textual evidence from a RELIABLE SOURCE ( Quran/ confirmed hadith) that says that Islam prohibits things like music or technological advances. If it was something like not listening to music that had bad morals or something along those lines, then I can easily see an Islamic justification. But no music at all for such a pointless reason? Take for example Mr. Cat Stephens AKA Yusuf Islam. Right after he converted he, by his own admission, had a period of near extremism where he completely abandoned music. He later returned for music because he realized that there was no Islamic basis for this.
#9 to #7 - kingoflint (04/30/2013) [-]
Also, please understand that I mean no offense and I respect your opinion, but scholars should not have to tell you about your religion. That goes against the principles of Islam. God commanded man to learn to read so he could interpret the Holy Quran for himself. That's not to say that Islamic scholars shouldn't exist, if you've spent your life studying the Quran, by all means share your insights. But just because a scholar said it does not mean that it is any more valid than my opinion. Many people blindly do things simply because Islamic scholars have old them that this is the way that things should be. Not suggesting that you do this at all, but your mention of Islamic scholars as proof made me think of it.
#34 to #9 - icameisawilostit (04/30/2013) [-]
I appreciate you.   
I appreciate you so much I'm giving your this gif of a cat.   
   
You know your religious texts, and you know how to apply them. I respect that.
I appreciate you.
I appreciate you so much I'm giving your this gif of a cat.

You know your religious texts, and you know how to apply them. I respect that.
User avatar #28 to #7 - sheepysquirrel (04/30/2013) [-]
The only thing the Quran (from my personal reading) says about music is that you can not listen to music that talks about things that oppose the quran or contain violence and such. IT does say some shouldn't because it would distract your from worship of allah, but so would pretty much anything.
User avatar #10 to #6 - poopbackandforth (04/30/2013) [-]
You're right. It doesn't say technological advancement is prohibited at all. in fact, it says, that id mankind were determined to touch the moon or travel to another universe, so be it! Do it! Without sounding like a religious nut (which im not) Allah (or God) wants mankind to prove their worth and reach our fullest potential.
#12 - anepicnub (04/30/2013) [-]
>music
>not existing

#15 - Tenkan (04/30/2013) [-]
mfw I'm Muslim and found this hilarious.   
   
The Muslim entering the taxi needs to understand what's okay and not okay in Islam.
mfw I'm Muslim and found this hilarious.

The Muslim entering the taxi needs to understand what's okay and not okay in Islam.
#3 - insanefreak ONLINE (04/29/2013) [-]
This reminds me of the fact that there are muslims who condemn the use of microphones because they believe that we end up worshipping the tool, rather than the message.

I'm a muslim, and I'm just as sick and tired of many of my own religion, as some of the Christians and Atheists are of theirs..
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#2 - atrumaliger (04/29/2013) [-]
Kinda rude.
#13 to #2 - Rascal (04/30/2013) [-]
Whats rude is pressing religion onto others for no damn reason, the muslim could have ignored it but he didn't he came to another country and attempted to press his culture on a citizen, thats ******* rude, imagine a satanist coming up to you while your walking and tells you being happy is against his religion and told you to stop, its the same concept. You don't get the right to have your religious beliefs affect others, this starts wars.
#35 to #13 - atrumaliger (04/30/2013) [-]
In all fairness, it was -against- his religion to listen to blaspheme. He didn't ask for the guy to stop eating pork for the rest of his life, or convert and warship Mohammad. He just asked him to turn the radio down, obviously till the end of the ride.

So yes. The cabby was kinda rude.
#4 - lesmiserables (04/29/2013) [-]
That's not even remotely funny, just plain rude.
User avatar #16 - Crusader (04/30/2013) [-]
But Muhammad was a caravan driver.
Essentially the taxi of his period.
The cabbie could have just shut up and driven the dude, but no, he had to be a dick to the guy.
Albeit the muslim was an ass first, you should never argue with an idiot, they will bring you down to their level and beat you with their experience.
User avatar #17 to #16 - HarvietheDinkle (04/30/2013) [-]
taxi driver has no legal obligation to give the guy a ride.
User avatar #19 to #17 - darthtomale ONLINE (04/30/2013) [-]
its about not being an asshole. not following the law.
User avatar #21 to #19 - HarvietheDinkle (04/30/2013) [-]
fine. the taxi driver also doesn't really have any kind of obligation to give the guy a ride. So he shouldn't have just shut up and given the guy a ride, especially after the insult.
User avatar #40 to #21 - Crusader (04/30/2013) [-]
I never said he should have, I said that a little tolerance for the intolerant could have changed the muslim's world view.
User avatar #42 to #40 - HarvietheDinkle (04/30/2013) [-]
if you said he was being a dick, then it's pretty much implied that he shouldn't have done what he did. Hence he should have given him a ride.
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#24 to #21 - shaunrnm (04/30/2013) [-]
Where was the insult? he asked for the music to be turned off, and gave a reason for his request
User avatar #25 to #24 - HarvietheDinkle (04/30/2013) [-]
"infidel"
#26 to #25 - shaunrnm (04/30/2013) [-]
1. It was not directed at the cabby. 2 It would be a fair use of the word, since the music would not have been muslim. It would be like saying k-pop is the music of asains
User avatar #27 to #26 - HarvietheDinkle (04/30/2013) [-]
If the cabbie was listening to it, what do you think the customer thought he was?

infidel has only ever been used to insult others. It's the equivilant of saying "heathen" - implying that the person is inferior and unclean.

he could've used a different word in this scenario (which I know didn't even happen)
#33 to #27 - shaunrnm (04/30/2013) [-]
Although it may have negative connotations, it is still accurate. The word is used as is its definition ie people without a god more specifically allah. Just like calling a person black, it may not have positive connotations it is still an accurate description
User avatar #41 to #33 - HarvietheDinkle (04/30/2013) [-]
Difference is, you can't equate it to calling someone black. A closer comparison would be the word " ****** ." "Black," nowadays, is not commonly used as an insult at all, whereas the aforementioned two are.

Infidel doesn't simply mean someone without god. It means someone who is inferior specifically because they don't worship allah.
#44 to #41 - shaunrnm (04/30/2013) [-]
No definition i can find has any mention of inferiority, only stating a lack of faith, more often of the Christian god
User avatar #46 to #44 - HarvietheDinkle (04/30/2013) [-]
by the way, a pre-emptive comment: I have no idea who's thumbing you down. You're one of the more polite people I've debated with on this site.
User avatar #45 to #44 - HarvietheDinkle (04/30/2013) [-]
From wikipedia:

When applied to non-monotheists, the usage of the word is similar to the appellations heathen or pagan.[5] As such, the term infidel has often been applied to atheists, whose disbelief is viewed negatively in both Christianity and Islam.[6][7][8]

Later on:

Infidel is an English language word commonly used to translate the equivalent Arabic language word for non-Muslims; kafir, literally the one who "covers", is usually translated as "disbeliever"; i.e. in English translations of the Quranic verse, 109:1,[16][17][18] In the Islamic doctrinal sense, the term only refers to a person who does not recognize the one God (Allah) such as atheists and polytheists. However, since Islam considers Jews and Christians as fellow believers they are called "People of the Book (Ahl al-kitab)" instead.[19][20][21]

Kafir, like infidel, has also come to be regarded as offensive,[22] thus some Muslim scholars discourage its use due to the Quran's command to use kind words.[23][22] It is even a punishable offense to use this term against a Jew or a Christian, under Islamic law.[22] Some contemporary Muslim extremists, however, have applied the term to all non-Muslims.[19]
#47 to #45 - shaunrnm (04/30/2013) [-]
I would not use wiki for definitions of words. Every dictionary type site and my dictionary says only 'one without god' or 'one without faith' etc. Other words such as ****** , or gringo also include as part of the definition derogatory or offensive. Although the word may be often used negatively, its definition is not a derogatory one
User avatar #48 to #47 - HarvietheDinkle (04/30/2013) [-]
But it's the usage that counts. Never had I not heard it used in a non-derogatory sense. While the definition of "faggot" can also be said to simply mean homosexual, it was specifically made to target a single group as inferior. The same situation happens with "infidel"
#49 to #48 - shaunrnm (05/01/2013) [-]
Again, faggost in most dictionaries has a note about the offensive use, although i agree infidel is often used in a negative tone of voice, it does not mean that in every situation it is negative
User avatar #50 to #49 - HarvietheDinkle (05/01/2013) [-]
Agreed. You and I are interpreting this situation in different ways, because (I assume) we've had different experiences. Let's agree to disagree. Either way, have a good life.
User avatar #29 to #27 - blacktitan (04/30/2013) [-]
Because of that the cabbie wasn't a Muslim he listen to all kind of songs, but the Muslim wants to follow his religion and properly asked him to turn it of, and the cabbie could do it and show some respect. This is why we can't reach the worlds utopia!
User avatar #30 to #29 - HarvietheDinkle (04/30/2013) [-]
I'm not saying it was wrong for the muslim to ask him to turn it off (in this made-up scenario)

It was the way he asked him - the specific words he used
User avatar #31 to #30 - blacktitan (04/30/2013) [-]
DO you, my fine gentleman, really think that that's the exact words of the Muslim?? In today's world Muslims are under pressure and pinpointed for things they haven't done, or things that some Muslims done, and for that the all the Muslims get blamed. This's probably extreamed out or vise versa.
User avatar #32 to #31 - HarvietheDinkle (04/30/2013) [-]
notice how I said that this situation is made up.

I'm talking about this very specific situation, anyway.

Never said he's representing an entire population. Just talking about him. This imaginary guy in this imaginary scenario.
User avatar #20 to #19 - kyrill (04/30/2013) [-]
how is that being an asshole, the guy was a douche to him so he refused to give him service.
User avatar #22 to #20 - darthtomale ONLINE (04/30/2013) [-]
two people being assholes isn't better. besides all of that not being smart anyway because now he doesn't get the money.
User avatar #23 to #22 - kyrill (04/30/2013) [-]
he's not being an asshole, he just doesn't want to be around a douchebag. K, let me give you an example. what country are you from?
#11 - unijaw (04/30/2013) [-]
Holy **** FJ when did you become such whiny progressive cunts?
#1 - vivella (04/29/2013) [-]
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User avatar #18 - sekretguyy (04/30/2013) [-]
I..i dont get whats so funny...
#5 - venomthc (04/29/2013) [-]
Aye keep dreaming. With all that policical correctness the cab driver would sooner suck his dick than throw him away.
User avatar #51 - cadencee (05/04/2013) [-]
Music existed since before recorded history, that is ******* stupid.
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User avatar #14 - jacklane (04/30/2013) [-]
"who the hell drives a black cab?"

"What else would I drive?"
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