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#103 - teutoburg (04/22/2013) [-]
>Playing civilization
>randomn country captures a worker
>YOU WILL BURN IN HELL YOUR ENTIRE COUNTRY WILL BE RAZED THE ONLY REMINDER OF YOUR EXISTENCE WILL BE EMPTY ROADS LEADING TO PILES OF RUBBLE
#206 to #103 - yutdollacwwwthree (04/22/2013) [-]
>playing CIV III
>it's in the 1850s
>I have tanks
>At war with France
>see barbarian, **** yes Imma kill this guy
>engage in combat, the barbarian defeats my tank
> **** that ****
>quit
User avatar #117 to #103 - schneidend (04/22/2013) [-]
> Enemy kills a scout with a tank.
> Kill all of the enemies' tanks with veteran pikemen somehow.
#64 - felixjarl ONLINE (04/22/2013) [-]
#37 - jiltist (04/22/2013) [-]
Well I mean but they were pretty expensive buildings....
#27 - magsschroedinger (04/22/2013) [-]
Sure you destroyed the _ right_ country?
#86 - sometimeswefuck (04/22/2013) [-]
yes...."helping iraq".....heh...heheh...
#32 - butiloveu (04/22/2013) [-]
To be fair, if some destroys your two nipples you would destroy their bodies also.
To be fair, if some destroys your two nipples you would destroy their bodies also.
#133 - ruinsage (04/22/2013) [-]
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Get's mad when bombed
bomb's everyone else
User avatar #136 to #133 - certifiedidiot (04/22/2013) [-]
Pretty sure there's been more people dropping dead from a heart attack at the heart attack grill than people who got blown up in boston
User avatar #215 to #133 - thejgwentworth (04/22/2013) [-]
That isn't america authorizing drone strikes, it should be a picture of Scumbag Obama.
User avatar #28 - pappathethird (04/22/2013) [-]
The roots of this conflict are much deeper than just 9/11.
User avatar #34 to #28 - carnagejc (04/22/2013) [-]
All the way down to the oil wells.
#41 to #34 - anon (04/22/2013) [-]
Which would be pretty neat if, you know, we were actually getting any oil out of either Afghanistan or Iraq.
#195 to #34 - anon (04/22/2013) [-]
the amount of ignorance in this comment is reflected in the high amount of green thumbs, since as we know, FJ ers are mostly immature ignorant kids.
just sayin.
User avatar #217 to #195 - carnagejc (04/22/2013) [-]
Or you could, I don't know... try taking a joke on a site intended for jokes?
#204 to #195 - anon (04/22/2013) [-]
More thumbs = ******** content
#22 - anako (04/22/2013) [-]
#137 - FatherPedobear (04/22/2013) [-]
That is definitely not what a Bald Eagle looks like from the front. They look confused as **** .
User avatar #139 to #137 - somedsoup (04/22/2013) [-]
it's a Freegle
User avatar #9 - luidias (04/22/2013) [-]
canadafag here. I'm usually a pacifist about this kind of crap, but quite honestly, the US got rid of saddam hussein, who was a brutal, unfair leader. Even considering civilian casualties, Iraq is still better off. Saddam killed a LOT of people (and his actions TARGETED civilians specifically, unlike the US military, who targets terrorist groups and will avoid killing civilians if possible)

tl;dr however much the war in the middle east sucks, IMO it's better than having let the area fester and succumb to corruption and genocide, even if america's motives were questionable.
User avatar #102 to #9 - benjaminbutton (04/22/2013) [-]
Yea, we also spent 4.4 trillion dollars. I read an article by Chomsky, good read, and he explained quite nicely how Osama Won. Sure we killed him, but he led us to spend exhaustive amounts of money in the war and because of our egoism we fell for it hook line and sinker. "Murica.
#119 to #9 - anon (04/22/2013) [-]
guess why saddam became leader of iraq, not on his ******* own
User avatar #167 to #119 - defender (04/22/2013) [-]
he actually did you should look into his rise to power instead of talking
#147 to #9 - anon (04/22/2013) [-]
>implying USA did not choose Saddam to be in the command of Iraq
There's a darker face in USA. Disguised as freedom and BS of sorts, but it's there. You just don't know about it.
User avatar #35 to #9 - carnagejc (04/22/2013) [-]
The issue now is that the majority of people in the occupied territories want a Tyrant back. The worst the Americans did for the Palestinians is making Saddam look like an Angel in comparison. Nostalgia also has the effect of making the past seem better than it was, which furthers the issue.

Also, although the US does claim to avoid civilian populations they still inflict massive damage on civilians, mostly because of drones in urban areas. Drones are single handedly painting the USA as a force for evil in the middle east.
User avatar #244 to #35 - luidias (04/22/2013) [-]
the difference is that, despite the fact that yes, drones are out there and are killing civilians, the civilians themselves are never who the US targets. Saddam specifically targeted civilians with his mustard gas.
User avatar #246 to #244 - carnagejc (04/22/2013) [-]
Yeah I understand mate, i'm just explaining that what ultimately matters is the public opinion of those living there, which is rapidly deteriorating.
User avatar #247 to #246 - luidias (04/22/2013) [-]
yeah. the whole war is one nasty can of worms, for both sides.
User avatar #47 to #9 - aussiepridevil (04/22/2013) [-]
your overlookingt he fact the US installed saddam hussein, amognst other brutal dictators.

and the future of iraq is very uncertain, with no real government in power iraq could turn to dictatorship again.
User avatar #245 to #47 - luidias (04/22/2013) [-]
When they had him take over, I highly doubt that it was their intention to have him kill one million people during his leadership.
User avatar #38 to #9 - Gandalfthewhite (04/22/2013) [-]
the country may be a bit worse off now, but Germany was a complete mess after world war 2 but it was worth it
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#132 to #125 - ciarancrashy (04/22/2013) [-]
I laughed too much at this
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#48 to #9 - lufieh (04/22/2013) [-]
Pseudo-pacifist detected.
The Iraq embargo in the 90s resulted in 500 000 Iraqi deaths due to starvation. The NATO intervention was backed by nothing more than banking interests.

User avatar #184 to #48 - jikario (04/22/2013) [-]
You seem to be forgetting the ******* Gulf war. Ya know, The one that started by Iraq Invading Kuwait. You think the U.N would just embargo an impoverished country for banking interests? Rather than ya know... the fact that the country was being ruled at the time by a tyrannical mass-murdering dictator?

You're brilliant. I'm so glad I got to see this new, obviously educated viewpoint.
#205 to #184 - lufieh (04/22/2013) [-]
I was talking about the intervention after 9/11, not the Gulf war. The intervention followed only after Saddam refused to trade oil in USD, which threatened to cripple the petrodollar system.
See: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petrodollar

As for the sanctions, they lasted up to 2003 - long after the Gulf war.
User avatar #210 to #205 - jikario (04/22/2013) [-]
You can't just go from one NATO intervention to another completely different one, man. Ya gotta differentiate. How was I supposed to know you were talking about another on of the various times NATO met to discuss an issue? :I
User avatar #216 to #210 - lufieh (04/22/2013) [-]
Even still, you should know very well that nothing in geopolitics is done out of good will and humanitarianism. The sweet talk is merely war propaganda, whereas elite interests always lie behind the scenes.
User avatar #243 to #48 - luidias (04/22/2013) [-]
close to 1 million died in the iraq war started by saddam. He also was targeting civilians (killing 5000 with chemical warfare in one town at one point) and didn't show any signs of stopping his ******** . Then there's the people that died due to his invasion of kuwait.

another thing, keep in mind how relentless and cruel chemical weapons are. It's a torturous death.
User avatar #252 to #243 - lufieh (04/23/2013) [-]
That 5000 death toll you mentioned is related to the Iraq-Iran war. It's interesting to note that the US supported Saddam in that war. Later, of course, everything changed.

>close to 1 million died in the iraq war started by saddam.
>started by saddam.
What?

And nobody is debating the moral side of chemical warfare. It's gruesome and atrocious however you look at it. I'm not a Saddam apologist, but the US intervention was the complete opposite of what it pretended to be. Even if US soldiers did not outright execute civilians, the actions of the West caused much more damage in the long run. (see sanctions' aftermath and region destabilization)

User avatar #256 to #252 - luidias (04/23/2013) [-]
saddam initiated the iraq-iran war, where 1 million people died. 100,000 of those were civilians. Another 180,000 or so wee also killed in the kurdish genocide.

I agree that the states' motives were wrong, but I still maintain that iraq is better off without saddam. He did more damage than the US has done, and wasn't about to stop any time soon.
#140 - thechosentroll (04/22/2013) [-]
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Now daz real ork logik. If ez worf doin, iz worf ovadoin.
#153 to #140 - fausticorn (04/22/2013) [-]
I think that's more like the Death Korps of Krieg's logic.


Rebels?
NUCLEAR HOLOCAUST.
User avatar #168 to #153 - aesgard (04/22/2013) [-]
It was more like. "Hey dude 95% of the planet turned into heretical rebels, what should we do?"

Desesperated times call for desesperated measures.
#158 to #153 - thechosentroll (04/22/2013) [-]
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It's hard to pinpoint who it resembles the most. After all, pretty much everyone in Warhammer 40k's a raving lunatic with a gun the size of a small child. Must be the reason I love it so much.
#111 - flufflepuff (04/22/2013) [-]
America is hated...
#95 - anon (04/22/2013) [-]
Mind when terrorists tried to attack Scotland?

We kicked the boy in the balls bragged about it on the bbc news then went back to it.

They've not been back since.
#129 to #95 - anon (04/22/2013) [-]
mainly because it's hard to terrorise us scots with our hairy ballsacks and haggis anal plugs
User avatar #105 - kanatana (04/22/2013) [-]
He pulls a knife, you pull a gun. He sends one of yours to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue! That's the Chicago way.
User avatar #154 to #105 - mads (04/22/2013) [-]
What do you do if he pulls out a flower?
User avatar #156 to #154 - kanatana (04/22/2013) [-]
YA PULL DOWN YER PANTS AND FERTILIZE THAT COMMIE HIPPIE
User avatar #159 to #156 - mads (04/22/2013) [-]
but from your earlier logic you should pull out a bouquet
#44 - anon (04/22/2013) [-]
AMERICA TALKS ABOUT FREEDOM.... WHEN ACTUALLY ISRAELI'S PUPPET STATE
User avatar #30 - Foxchase (04/22/2013) [-]
Gotta love how people never do a complete background check of the Afghan and Iraqi wars, but merely just scratch the surface.
#42 to #30 - ironstrike (04/22/2013) [-]
That's the internet for you.
#14 - anon (04/22/2013) [-]
The only thing is most people enrolled in the US military are given orders that they cant go against,so even if we have done things wrong don't blame the whole country blame the ************ that sent are troops to war.
#16 to #14 - anon (04/22/2013) [-]
They can go against those orders if they are unethical or unlawful.
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User avatar #60 - haker (04/22/2013) [-]
So an attack on U.S. soil isnt cause for retaliation. No one seems to think the same about pearl harbor. Should the U.S. have just said. "Its just some ships, its not worth going to war over." No they attacked the U.S. and the U.S. retaliated.

Around 3700 people died at pearl harbor. Around 2600 of them were military.

Around 3000 people died in the 9/11 terrorist attacks. 55 of them were military.
#131 to #60 - anon (04/22/2013) [-]
Pearl Harbor was staged, so that America could enter the second world war in Europe, and get a piece of Germany for the purpose of ensuring that the USSR didn't control all of Europe in the aftermath
User avatar #146 to #131 - multimedia (04/22/2013) [-]
It wasn't staged. However, it was provoked by FDR.
User avatar #142 to #60 - certifiedidiot (04/22/2013) [-]
Well in all fairness, 9/11 was a group of people who had intentions to inflict harm, not a official country that did it.

Pearl Harbor was a country, not a group of individuals, but an nation.
#78 to #60 - anon (04/22/2013) [-]
people still think terrorists did 9/11?

stay free 'murica
#110 to #78 - anon (04/22/2013) [-]
ow lawd cuz erryone knows teh gu'mmint did it cuz aleins told dem to!
#116 to #60 - delivering (04/22/2013) [-]
The terrorist attacks on the Twin Towers were a retaliation against American "peace missions".

Reap what you sow and all that **** .
User avatar #123 to #60 - bigmanfifty (04/22/2013) [-]
100,000+ civilians died in Iraq (as a modest UN estimate) vs 3,000 in 9/11.

Besides, Japan was an actual country, what do Iraqi or Afghani civilians have to do with AL Qaida?

those people didn't deserve to die for American pride.
User avatar #176 to #123 - thephantur (04/22/2013) [-]
Terrorism isn't that easy to fight you know. They blend in with the populace, you don't know who's a terrorist and who isn't. Waging war against them is like boxing blindfolded in a room filled with smoke. You do the best with what you have and you strike down your opponent over and over. Needless to say, there will be casualties. You might accidentally hit the referee. The thing is, you aren't targeting the ref, you just accidentally hit him on your quest to stop the terrorist who is actively hunting down you, your coach, the ref, and anyone else it can get with an AIDs tainted needle. Is the US clean? Hell no. But the US sure isn't the evil these eurofags paint her out to be. It's war. An attack happened on US soil purposefully targeting innocents and something had to be done. It was just a tragedy that civilians were caught in the fire. Fighting an actual country is easy. Fighting an organization that disguises as innocents who's sole goal is to strike fear into the hearts of the world isn't. This is a fight that America really can't back out of easily. Even if she left the Middle East, the terrorist cells won't give up. They will bring the Middle East back into tyrannical rule under their dirtied version of Islam while still striking out at foreign nations. They won't stop. The only way to stop them is to drive them all out like the cockroaches they are.
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User avatar #122 to #43 - beerterror (04/22/2013) [-]
That should include Israel too.
User avatar #76 to #43 - fourtwentt (04/22/2013) [-]
make the middle east a giant boob?
User avatar #104 to #76 - PubLandlord (04/22/2013) [-]
Yes problem solved

You cannot see America anymore
User avatar #106 to #43 - markertemp (04/22/2013) [-]
Ground Zero Ocean? Don't you mean Freedom Lake?
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