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User avatar #514 - I Am Monkey (04/22/2013) [-]
I support gay rights and whatnot, but "transgender" isn't a third gender, it's a disorder. It's either a genetic disorder were you are born with two sets of sex organs or it's a mental disorder were you think you're a woman born in a mans body or some ******** . It pisses me off when people try to act like it's normal and piggyback their cause with the rest of the gay rights movement. There's nothing natural about having tens of thousands of dollars of plastic surgery to make yourself look like the opposite sex.
User avatar #552 to #514 - MysticTomatoe (04/22/2013) [-]
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User avatar #544 to #514 - Crusader (04/22/2013) [-]
For them though, it's not plastic surgery to look normal, it's corrective surgery.
Like if you have an extra finger, and you have surgery to remove it.
That is what transgenders believe.
#535 to #514 - clevergurl (04/22/2013) [-]
^^^^^^^^^ this right here, exactly, btw I'm actually gay, and approve your message
^^^^^^^^^ this right here, exactly, btw I'm actually gay, and approve your message
User avatar #521 to #514 - dblej (04/22/2013) [-]
While I agree with you for the most part, I think disorder is a bit strong of a term to be used here because it makes a strong statement that there's something wrong with them mentally and physically. One thing you didn't take into consideration was the fact that some people have surgery as babies due to their parents believing that they were the opposite sex due to a tiny penis or a large clitoris. This causes them to have been born one sex and to mentally be that gender, but physically be another and it's in no way their fault.
#525 to #521 - John Cena (04/22/2013) [-]
I think you're making a stronger statement there there is nothing wrong with them mentally. You approach it as if it's a completely normal thing, when in reality it is not. You take extremely isolated incidents and present them as a blanket coverage of the entire issue, as if every transgender person is simply the product of a mis-diagnosis at birth.
User avatar #530 to #525 - dblej (04/22/2013) [-]
You're right and I thank you for pointing that out to me. There are many types of transexual people and while the one I listed is one of the more common ones there are others. There are tribes in lesser developed countries where girls will be raised and upon reaching puberty their hormones spurr on the development of penis and other male organs making their sex obvious. This is a natural occurrence within that specific society and they treat it very normally. Hormones have been found to play a large role in this process and certain birth control medications have been found to lead to higher rates of children that identify as the opposite sex. Typically if by age 5 or 6 if a child adamantly declares themselves to be the other sex they'll grow up to be transexual. Again these are just the ones I'm more familiar with, but I hope that does clear up the issue a bit.
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