Pope. .. I hate defending the pope being an atheist myself and all, but you are aware that that man is no longer the pope? Are you aware that the current pope, Pope Fran
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#9 - John Cena (04/11/2013) [-]
It's funny because the new pope did just that and replaced this chair and his robes with ordinary ones.
#197 to #9 - John Cena (04/12/2013) [-]
OOOOOH, thats so much of a difference. The bastards still have 600 - 700 Billion DOLLARS IN THEIR OWN FREAKING BANK!!!!!!!!
#213 to #197 - angelusprimus (04/12/2013) [-]
Yes they do. They also finance and support over 400 global charities like red cross. Their bank is where payments for salaries for all the teachers, doctors, support staff and maintainance costs of hospitals, schools, shelters and missions all across the world.
Should church be less opulent and more modest? Yes, yes it should. And that is what current pope is trying to do.
But they also do a lot of good too. Unfortunately news is made not by hard working middle level people in the church that keep things going and live the life of charity, but by rich assholes who joined the church to make money and live easy life.
#207 to #197 - acksl (04/12/2013) [-]
At least it's a tiny move in the right direction. Something as big and crusted as the catholic church won't change over night.

Pic related, it's the pope slowly and gently moving in the right direction
#202 to #9 - John Cena (04/12/2013) [-]
Lets hope he also allows condoms in Africa
User avatar #11 to #9 - HerroMsLady (04/11/2013) [-]
He also refused to stay in the mansion the pope usually stays in and he's living in a convent with other poor priests
User avatar #7 - pleasantlybaconii (04/11/2013) [-]
I hate defending the pope being an atheist myself and all, but you are aware that that man is no longer the pope?

Are you aware that the current pope, Pope Francis, is all about eliminating these rampant displays of wealth and power? He's very humble, and from what I've read seems to really wants himself (hopefully the vatican too) to actually practice the teachings that Jesus preached.
#30 to #7 - John Cena (04/12/2013) [-]
Pope Francis is the High Sparrow?
User avatar #82 to #7 - ICEDgrunge (04/12/2013) [-]
I personally disagree with the idea of a pope, I'm just a simple christian, not a catholic, but damn I have so much respect for Pope Francis regardless. His humility can easily be regarded by anyone of a different view on religion, the man washed the feet of the people of his hometown before he became pope, I can go on about the man for a while, as I've read what you've read most likely, I'm glad to see a person such as him in that seat regardless where I stand on that. However, no one really knows what goes on behind closed doors, and the papacy has one of the worst track records of human beings I've seen, I just hope that he's not playing up to a facade.
#94 - Thenewguygunther (04/12/2013) [-]
gold throne of the pope

i can give you $75 for it,

there's just not much of a market for holy chairs made of precious metals these days and it will sit on the shelf for months
#26 - sirbrentcoe (04/11/2013) [-]
the new pope is trying to get rid of a lot of that crazy 			****		... he's a good guy, imo.
the new pope is trying to get rid of a lot of that crazy **** ... he's a good guy, imo.
User avatar #27 to #26 - jovisman ONLINE (04/11/2013) [-]
I will believe it when I see it.It would also be nice if he were to open ALL of the vaticans files on child sex abuse,taking money from south american war criminals etc.Until then I think there is no way for a catholic person who gives money to the church a moral person.
#84 to #27 - gare ONLINE (04/12/2013) [-]
new pope on the right
User avatar #89 to #84 - jovisman ONLINE (04/12/2013) [-]
i am sure that the chair is somewhere in the vatican.we will see if he changes course
User avatar #29 to #27 - sirbrentcoe (04/11/2013) [-]
he can't change everything all at once. but he is one of the people in the Catholic Church who truly believes it is the church's responsibility to help the poor and needy mate. His practices before being elected Pope prove that. I'm not saying he's perfect, but he will try to get the church to help the poor more than it has. I believe strongly that he seeks out real change for the better.
User avatar #32 to #29 - jovisman ONLINE (04/12/2013) [-]
he was supposed to be christ's representative on earth.If these men are believers they would do what he says.He could come out and say yall ****** up.And list what is going to change and if they do not like it they should leave or be excommunicated.
User avatar #33 to #32 - sirbrentcoe (04/12/2013) [-]
you and I both know that it doesn't work like that. even though he is supposed to be the end all be all, they have a process of adapting his decrees and changes. he can't just up and say 'giving all our money to starving people, everyone.' or 'if you're part of the church, sell your gold and give your money to those who have nothing.' he's gonna bring about long-term change, hopefully.
User avatar #35 to #33 - jovisman ONLINE (04/12/2013) [-]
If that is true every person that gives money or material support to the catholic church is morally bankrupt.The previous pope is guilty of hiding and protecting pedophiles.Also telling people in africa that condoms increase the spread of aids.And why has hitler not been excommunicated?I am not only picking on the catholic chruch.All faiths and dogmas are guilty of immoral things.The catholic church has systematically done things to destroy human rights. Do not believe me please check it out for yourself.I am assuming you are catholic if I am wrong I am sorry.

Every man is guilty of all the good he did not do.


User avatar #41 to #35 - sirbrentcoe (04/12/2013) [-]
I am catholic, You can not blame the past actions of the church on this man. He is the figurehead of a corrupt religion, yes. But I truely believe he is going to do a lot more for the church than the previous pope. I am not a crazy, activist catholic. I just have my beliefs. My church in my community helps the poor and needy more than any other church I have belonged to. Most catholic churches don't run weekly soup kitchens, or hold bake sales with all procedes going to local shelters. I agree on that front. I hope that Pope Francis can make some positive changes for the rest of the catholic church.

And just to be clear, I don't look down on anyone for their faith or lack of faith. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, beliefs, and faith. I like my relationship with the Catholic church. It's not for everyone, and I don't try to make other people follow what I believe. I just state my beliefs.
User avatar #43 to #41 - jovisman ONLINE (04/12/2013) [-]
agreed,My belief is if you give any of your money to the catholic church while the "figure head" either spouts lies or refuses to heal past wounds you are morally bankrupt.just my belief.A good start for the catholic church to gain my respect would be to excommunicate hitler and to quit trying to force their dogmatic beliefs on to non believers such as they do in the U.S.A with regard to gay marriage and abortion.If they begin to do that then I will change my beliefs.Until then the church hierarchy can suck a dick.If none of the money you raise goes in any way to the church hierarchy I think you can be a moral person.If not you are helping the church hide pedos and war criminals.I as an american citizen hide pedos and war criminals without my consent thru my taxes.But I do try to vote to change the law so I do not have to.You do not have that option in a church.
#187 to #43 - John Cena (04/12/2013) [-]
The Catholic Church gives more money to charity than the next top 10 combined. Shut the **** up about them not giving money. You obviously know nothing of how a religious institution works. Your opinion on the matter is hypocritical and irrelevant.
#155 to #26 - ownermoses (04/12/2013) [-]
First time i see the real gif, it actually seems stranger without the mouths as eyes..
User avatar #39 to #26 - noobtankz (04/12/2013) [-]
Something about seeing the non-mouth version of this satisfies me.
#69 - John Cena (04/12/2013) [-]
I love how people always feel the need to blame other people to make themselves feel better.

Please tell me OP, what are you doing to help those poor kids?

Because I know that the Catholic church donates millions of dollars a year to African children in need.

Meanwhile, you're being a little bitch on the internet and complaining about it.

You are scum.
User avatar #147 to #69 - cjasper (04/12/2013) [-]
this anon is pretty cool
User avatar #80 to #69 - sidekickman (04/12/2013) [-]
What you say is true, but it doesn't mean they could sell the golden things and help a little more. Maybe OP can't afford to help. Just saying.
#86 to #80 - John Cena (04/12/2013) [-]
Well, a lot of those items have hundreds of years of history on them. I can see why the church would be hesitant to sell them. Although, someone in these comments said that the new pope sold some of the artifacts and is trying to follow the teachings of Jesus more.

I'm not a follower of the Catholic church, so I can't confirm if that's true or not. I would like to think that it is.
User avatar #127 to #86 - sidekickman (04/12/2013) [-]
Let's hope it is true. I'm pretty unbiased about the Catholic church, so if they did sell some of it, good on them.
#75 to #69 - sirbutterballs (04/12/2013) [-]
Tell it how it is anon.
#60 - drewbridge (04/12/2013) [-]
Mathew 26:11
"The poor you will have with you always, but you will not always have me."

I haven't done anything for poor kids in Africa recently
Neither has the person that made this or just about anyone on this page
Now everyone feels bad.
#45 - drtrousersnake (04/12/2013) [-]
you aren't helping that kid either
you aren't helping that kid either
#199 to #45 - theincrediblelegs (04/12/2013) [-]
It should be the wealthy that give to the poor, not the middle and lower classes.
User avatar #65 to #45 - tigersstripes (04/12/2013) [-]
true, but he isn't sitting on a golden throne, in a million dollar home, and he isn't the leader of a religion that states the rich should help the poor, so while yes he isn't helping its kinda out of his power

User avatar #70 to #65 - spartusee (04/12/2013) [-]
New pope is best pope.
#71 to #70 - tigersstripes (04/12/2013) [-]
i really dont have a reaction. i looked
User avatar #78 to #71 - spartusee (04/12/2013) [-]
I'm sorry I don't get what you're saying.
User avatar #79 to #78 - tigersstripes (04/12/2013) [-]
i have no reaction picture for your statement. the fact that i had no reaction was 'inconceivable'
User avatar #81 to #79 - spartusee (04/12/2013) [-]
Oh. But he really is the best pope. Selling stuff and being humble, it's great.
User avatar #83 to #81 - tigersstripes (04/12/2013) [-]
yeah, i dont get in to religion or politics so i can't put in a word for or against either, but old pope seemed like a self-centered ass from what i saw, new pope seems good...as long as he can withstand the test of power.
User avatar #85 to #83 - spartusee (04/12/2013) [-]
User avatar #88 to #85 - tigersstripes (04/12/2013) [-]
and they all lived happily ever after, with no sudden flaming because opinions.
User avatar #36 - destaice (04/12/2013) [-]
Let's not take into account that the throne is probably an artifact and is not something to be simply thrown out.

Yes it's valuable, but they have other valuable items that can be sold and are not priceless artifacts.

In the case that the throne is not an artifact then I apologize. I'm not a major in in the subject of ancient chairs.
User avatar #44 to #36 - redrex ONLINE (04/12/2013) [-]
the throne is just an example, there are probably a lot of other golden items that aren't nearly as valuable that can be sold at a nice price
#53 to #36 - John Cena (04/12/2013) [-]
Y'know whats more priceless than a chair which is an 'artifact' simply because it's old and smells of Pope?

Saving a few thousand people from agonising, slow starvation - which the weight of gold in that chair would be able to do alone.
User avatar #8 - velho (04/11/2013) [-]
I don't like to be smartass, but that chair is actually gilded wood. And no, I'm not trying to bring Jesus Christ in you life or other wololoo-stuff
User avatar #87 - RageRambo (04/12/2013) [-]
Yet again. Another Bible verse taken out of context. This was a story of a rich guy who said he wanted to be saved. Jesus asked if he kept all the commandments. The rich man said yes. Jesus said. Okay. Go sell your stuff and follow me. It was a test to see what he loved more. His things. Or Jesus.
User avatar #156 to #87 - giguelingueling (04/12/2013) [-]
What if his thing what named Jesus because he could only raise it once per 3 days ?
User avatar #128 to #87 - ilovehitler (04/12/2013) [-]
Out of curiosity, which did he choose?
User avatar #135 to #128 - teoberry (04/12/2013) [-]
He walked away sadly.
#98 - AlbertEinstein (04/12/2013) [-]
Has anyone heard of the Green Revolution? No?
Well it's time to educate yourselves FJ!

For you lazy bums that can't search information on Wiki...
Green Revolution refers to a series of research, development, and technology transfer initiatives, occurring between the 1940s and the late 1970s, that increased agriculture production around the world.
They sent large quantities of food to Africa to help prevent starvation.
-Sounds like a brilliant plan right? So you'd think.
As more food entered Africa, the population increased. There was a direct collation between the two. Because the population increased, more food was required to prevent starvation. After a while from this recursive effect, they could no long produce enough food. And even worse, when the Green Revolution ended.... well lets just say there were more people starving by the end than the beginning.

In conclusion, Africa (the more uncivilized part that is) is utterly doomed until it can start acting like an actual functional civilization.

TLDR = Giving food to "starving Africans" doesn't work that well.

Now don't get me started on how quoting religion ia ******** (I'm not even religious and I know you're a moron if you do so
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User avatar #175 - bluerangermartin (04/12/2013) [-]
You do realise the pope doesn't own that gold?
User avatar #179 to #175 - watermelonkittie (04/12/2013) [-]
I am guessing the church owns that gold, in which case they should still give it to the poor (if they follow their own rules). I mean, isn't it ridiculous that they can build so many churches, statues and altars but they tell other people to help the poor?
User avatar #212 to #179 - bluerangermartin (04/12/2013) [-]
'The church' isnt a person. It is owned by 'The vatican' and was gathered over hundreds of years even while the HRE were about. No one has the ability to give it away.
User avatar #17 - melontwilight (04/11/2013) [-]
Was that his to sell?
User avatar #18 to #17 - jovisman ONLINE (04/11/2013) [-]
he was the pope.Christs representative on earth.What he says goes.He could liquidate all of the churches wealth and do what ever he wants.
#72 - iamphoenix (04/12/2013) [-]
First, It's a religious artifact and could not simply be sold.
Secondly, the Catholic church donates plenty to the poor.

0/10 apply yourself
#74 to #72 - John Cena (04/12/2013) [-]
The Catholic church is a joke. Check Yourself bitch
#76 to #74 - iamphoenix (04/12/2013) [-]
There's mostly nothing funny about diddling children, anon.
#51 - masterofanon (04/12/2013) [-]
<be me
<go to a private school
<read this verse in theology class
<spoiled, dumb bitch raises her hand
<we all know something stupid is going to come out of her mouth
<"does that mean heaven is full of poor people? because that wont work for me"
<teacher's fw

inb4 cool story bro
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User avatar #167 - gragasvlad (04/12/2013) [-]
question is who would pay for a golden throne?
#177 to #167 - funnyjunkyeahyeah (04/12/2013) [-]
I'm sure a lot of people with ludicrous amount of money would buy a golden throne. I ******* would, if I had billions of dollars. Especially if I knew the money I spent on it was going to be used for charity.
#158 - John Cena (04/12/2013) [-]
Only are those things antique objects and most them could at least belong in a museum, since it is also concerned as art. Unless you really 'care' that hard about the children in Africa, I'm not implying you don't use this post just to bring up a ********* and an argument against the Evil Galactic Vatican Empire, and go to museums and ask/plunder them for giving the valuables to Africa.

But I doubt all that charity and stuff would actually help all of a sudden if you think for a minute for the fact that in all western countries over the past 30 years or so of charity programs there would have been donated by now almost a billion or so to Africa, but all that money and sort of don't help a single **** besides some little classrooms, advanced doctors and better treatment and cures.
#61 - fhfiction (04/12/2013) [-]
Actually, they cant sell the golden throne because the throne is legally a real person named "The Holy See" and is the owner of the Vatican.
#15 - John Cena (04/11/2013) [-]
>So starved his ******* tailbone is clearly defined

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