Art in a Nutshell. As an aspiring artist, this is true. Hen: bowtie: rocha Mg re Hades: twinkle twinkle little star why is art so HARD Cup the world so high# i  Art
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Art in a Nutshell

Art in a Nutshell. As an aspiring artist, this is true. Hen: bowtie: rocha Mg re Hades: twinkle twinkle little star why is art so HARD Cup the world so high# i

As an aspiring artist, this is true

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twinkle twinkle little star
why is art so HARD
Cup the world so high# i cant draw the OTHER EYE
twinkle twinkle little FUCK
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Igive up.
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#1 - alchemicfreak
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#26 to #1 - Lukanator
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Oh my goodness. I haven't seen you around here in a long time. How's it going?
User avatar #18 - zandveerx **User deleted account**
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Alright, since I'm seeing so much stuff about art not being able to be learned I'm gonna set things straight. Yes it can. Art is a science that can be taught but not with out great amounts of effort. And it is a science because if you're drawing a person you can exaggerate things but it still has to look like a person. Even when doing fantasy art you should keep in mind how to make it look real so you can't draw things that don't make sense. Also, "modern art" is such ****. If you want good art just look at some current video games.
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User avatar #3 to #2 - krakalakin
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User avatar #6 to #3 - oodlesandoodles
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No one can teach art because it's too abstract. They can teach you methods and terminology, but in the end, it requires passion and ability. Art isn't learning, it's about being passionate enough about something to create something else that people can talk about and enjoy
#8 to #6 - keroberios
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Passion plays no part in it. You can sit there and not give a **** the whole time you draw something.
User avatar #9 to #8 - oodlesandoodles
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I'm not talking about just doodling something. Passion plays a part in REAL art.

Let's see you try to paint a masterpiece, and not give a ****
or write an excellent screenplay and not give a ****
or write a great song and not give a ****

it's impossible.
#12 to #9 - keroberios
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I shall give two examples of my close friends. Primarily because I am a talentless pussy who is too lazy to dedicate myself to learning a proper skill.
One draws while she watches tv. Just pulls random **** out of her ass and puts it on paper. Ends up looking fantastic. Beautiful scenery, great looking people. Top notch stuff. I asked her why she does it while watching tv. She said she needs something to keep her mind active or else she can't concentrate on the show. Throws all of her pics out because she doesn’t give a ****.
Another friend of mine plays the piano. Has his whole life. When we're waiting for something to download or just passing a few minutes he goes to the piano and plays out little tunes. Sounds great, but it's just a process of stringing notes that sound good together one after another with some semblance of beat.

These are two people in my life who worked and learned to get to where they are. They don’t give a **** about what they're doing, they do it just because it's what they do.
Sure, they can put a little bit of effort into it and make something truly spectacular.
But them not giving a **** and just pissing around produce better **** than what half of the people here strive for.

As for "Real" art. Please. Do define real art for me.
How about that painting, you know, the large red square. Sold for several millions of dollars.
Or those other ones, the lines on canvas in prime colors. Is that real art? I think that sold for more than ten times your entire lifes worth.
Or that lady who just put a pile of mud 4 feet tall in the middle of an art museum. That **** is real classy art right there.
There was a woman who had her kids finger paintings selling for MILLIONS because they were "Abstract and vibrant"

So next time you want to say "real" art. Just take a permanent marker, take the cap off, and shove it up your ass. Because that is "real" living art.
User avatar #13 to #12 - oodlesandoodles
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You are such a tool.

First off, I did not define real art because it is impossible to define real art, once again, it is too abstract.

Secondly, I make no assumptions about you or your friends, so I would appreciate it if you would take the stick out of your ass. You say draws well. I believe you. However, she may say that she does it just because, but the fact of the matter is that if she didn't give a ****, she wouldn't be doing it.

Thirdly, your other friend can play the play the piano, and that makes him an artist how? I can play the violin and the xylophone, that does not make me a musician.

#14 to #13 - keroberios
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I didnt know writing a screenplay was art either. But you are right, I got a little off topic with my rant.
So, back on track.
Well, to quote you, "I'm not talking about just doodling something. Passion plays a part in REAL art. "

I would just like to see what you call "Real art".
Is doodling not "real art"?
You say that "real art" requires passion.
Is a stick figure not "real art"?
If not, then an entire library of the web comic XKCD would then not be any form of real art. But wait, people can talk about it, and enjoy it. So it fits all of your criteria for real art.

But if I were to doodle a stick figure in the corner of my page while listening to the prof give a lecture and plant a word bubble up there to make it look as if the stick figure says something. Perhaps even. "What is real art?"

Actually, I just drew that on a sticky note I had nearby on the desk. Now, this particular drawing I do have possibly one **** to give about it, because we are currently discussing its value.

So is my irrelevant stick figure, of which I have literally drawn thousands of in my life, "real art"? Or is it just a simple doodle because I didn't draw it with a paint program and throw it up on a website?
Can you really measure "real art" by the amount of ***** given. Or can something done willy-nilly be of equal value.

Does the person drawing it change its value? A skilled artist would naturally produce a much higher calibur of doodle than I could if I actually sat down and worked on a piece for a few days. Is the not-a- ********** doodle then worth more as "real art" as opposed to the work I would have poured volumes of passion and effort into?
User avatar #15 to #14 - oodlesandoodles
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Real art can be anything that inspires thought. Anyone can draw a stick figure and just because one person draws thousands a day, that doesn't make it art. It's not about how well you can draw. There has to be a reason behind the stick figure. What is it doing? Why? Is it saying anything? Why or why not? Of course, people can ham up some kind of artistic reason for a piece of ****. For example, I took a film class 2 years ago, and for our final projects, one guy presented an eight minute zoom in of a chair in black and white and called it a statement on drug abuse or something like that.
#16 to #15 - keroberios
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...Youre one of those carzies that looks at a yellow triangle in a picture frame and goes. "Oh. I love how the triangle is a perfect metaphor of our perserverance and strength if we stand to gether. And that yellow reflects perfectly about blablablablabla"

All while the artist stands there thinking to himself. "These art people are so ******* easy. I draw a red square? Paycheque. Wait a few years, and I do a yellow triangle, gold mine. Maybe in another 5 years I'll throw out an orange hexagon and watch them flip **** over that for a while."
User avatar #19 to #16 - oodlesandoodles
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Absolutely not. I believe that art is still a form of entertainment. However, I also believe that we cannot let ourselves be dumbed down by explosions and shiny things. Yeah, I love action movies. In fact, 300 is my favorite film next to Watchmen, but I need more than mindless action to be entertained. That's one of the problems with society, there are two types of people.

You have those who will laugh and throw their money at anything just because it looks cool, but the second you try to make them think, they call you pretentious.

Then you have the kinds of people who draw triangles against a white backdrop and expect people to stare at it for three hours, then go home and contemplate their exist.

There has to be a middle ground
#20 to #19 - keroberios
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My origional point in all of this. Is that you cannot possibly hope to define art.
You can not claim what is and isn't art. Because what talks to me, can be something COMPLETELY different than what talks to you. Judjing from your profile pic, MLP is a fine example of that.
I have watched MLP, and left it without seeing any of the intrest that you obviously have for it. It does not speak to me the same way it does you.
My friend can doodle a picture of some fellow, just standing there on a blank page, while watching tv. I call it art. She calls it a picture.
I write a rather intricate program for a device inside of a game I play. She calls it computer skills, I call it common.
You can not define the arbitrary, and then tell people that you have to be skilled and passionate to be good at the arbitrary.
User avatar #21 to #20 - oodlesandoodles
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You can't bring MLP into this. I personally think the show is horribly written and downright unbearable to watch at times. I like it strictly because the characters make me laugh. It is by no means a great work of art.

MY original point had nothing to do with defining REAL art. That was your implication. My original point was that real art requires passion, and I stand by that. Art goes beyond just drawing or painting, but you cannot make something and expect people to give it a second glance if you aren't passionate about whatever it was that you made.
#24 to #21 - keroberios
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Why does art have to be given a second glance to be called art?
Why do you keep thinking passion is required to make art?
Are the drawings I make with hours of effort and passion, but still look like ****, art?
Someone who is good at art, and is passionate about it at times. Can doodle some piece of **** they don't care about without putting any effort other than holding pen to paper into it and get third, maybe even fourth glances.
Art is arbitrary.
MLP, enjoyed by hundreds upon hundreds. Many of whom would claim it as a great piece of art. Is MLP and less of art than, say, Adventure Time? Why, is it not a great work of art. Because /you/ don't like the plot? So you define what art is and isn't now? You have determined that my stick figure on paper, of which my co-worker has recently nodded and said, "Good question." to, is not art. Did my stick fgure not speak to him, however brief the interaction.
What is and isn't art? Is my anime say, Pokemon for example. Is it any less of art than 300, or Watchmen? They have all been enjoyed by thousands. And spurred volumes of comments and feelings.
Are the comics and pictures posted on good 'ol FJ not art? They are done with passion, and people talk about them in the comments.

Because you seem to be the resident expert on what is and isn't a great piece of art. Please oh great sage. Present you vast wealth of limitless knowledge and tell me. What, precisely, is and isn't art.
User avatar #27 to #24 - oodlesandoodles
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First off, no one claims that MLP is a great work of art. The first thing any brony will tell you is that they full realize it's a show for little girls and they don't expect masterpiece writing from it. I'm not arguing that it isn't art, because it is. Art doesn't have to be good to be considered art.

Secondly, I've already explained this to you several times, but for some reason you aren't getting it. Just because something looks pretty, that doesn't make it a masterpiece. A second glance means that someone likes something enough to revisit it. If your friend were to draw a nice looking view of the city, I'd looked at it and think: "Hey, that's kinda neat," but I what would be my motivation to look at it a second time? NO artist OF ANY KIND wants people to see/hear their work ONE TIME and never give it a second thought.

In the two groups I mentioned earlier, you're the former. The group that is too easily amused.

I'm done trying to explain this to you. You have no idea how utterly stupid this argument is. ANY/EVERY artist/art teacher/art student will tell you that you need to have a passion for whatever the **** it is that you want to do, in order to succeed in it. I dare you to need one famous poet, songwriter, filmmaker, or writer who didn't love wasn't passionate about their work.
#17 to #16 - keroberios
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The red square I keep talking abuot.
Worth more than your entire life.
Cosiddered one of the greatest pieces of art from our time.
User avatar #4 to #2 - delaxiox [OP]
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Bro, this was uncalled for. I never said I wanted to be an artist for a living. I just like drawing for fun. Im in college as a website developer. Drawing lets me create icons, banners, things like that.
#7 to #4 - oodlesandoodles
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Art students get pissy when they think someone is stepping on or downplaying their work. Trust me, I go to an art school. Pay him no mind
Art students get pissy when they think someone is stepping on or downplaying their work. Trust me, I go to an art school. Pay him no mind
#28 to #7 - bknob
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Oh ****, tell me about it. I'm the only "Designer" (My art school is split between two streams: design and fine arts, but first year is a mix of the two) in my fine arts painting course and I feel as though I'm surrounded by people who can't take criticism an just love hearing their own voice.
Oh ****, tell me about it. I'm the only "Designer" (My art school is split between two streams: design and fine arts, but first year is a mix of the two) in my fine arts painting course and I feel as though I'm surrounded by people who can't take criticism an just love hearing their own voice.
User avatar #5 to #4 - delaxiox [OP]
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I just would like to be able to draw something more than buttons for a website one day. I guess media artist would be a better term.
User avatar #10 to #4 - highwayrydr
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That's cool then. "aspiring artist" seems like something an art student would say. So I apologize, but it really pisses me off when art guys or girls bitch about college, when I've gone through an engineering program, and my wife has done four years of pre-vet and is now in vet school for four more. So the artsy guys who graduate and bitch about not getting a job piss me off. I made an assumption and i am sorry. Good luck in your career.
User avatar #30 to #10 - paradenoire
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well mostly all i hear is bitching about the cost. cause its one of, if not the most expensive course at my college. ( i dropped out of arts cause it was ******* retarded, what am I gonna do with an art degree?? and I am now a tattoo artist)
#22 - anon id: bf26a031
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I hate it when I erase something ugly but I drew it too dark so you can still see it a little. It just stares at me and mocks me... for an eternity...
User avatar #25 to #22 - evilanakie
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2H is your allies then
User avatar #29 to #25 - breadbasket
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That ^
#23 - anon id: 4344de46
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>Aspiring artist

>future starbucks bartista

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