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User avatar #130 - sketchE (04/08/2013) [-]
if we were into invading people for oil
A. why havent we invaded saudi arabia kuwait or russia?
B. why is all the Iraqi oil going to europe?

i know its a joke im just getting tired of all the anti america stuff
User avatar #532 to #130 - robertolee (04/09/2013) [-]
Well the 'Oil for Food' programme kind of proved the US governments ulterior motives. The US also allows oil to be given to other countries and allies for its own benefit.
User avatar #478 to #130 - paesani (04/09/2013) [-]
Nigga, why haven't you invade us? (Venezuela) We directly call you bad names and shit and we got the biggest reserves of oil? (Only our cancer president did so don't think bad about us...
User avatar #573 to #478 - sketchE (04/09/2013) [-]
because were not as big of a prick as everyone makes us out to be
User avatar #585 to #573 - paesani (04/09/2013) [-]
.-. well, your country oftenly uses brute force to solve problems, that gives you an idea of what you can expect. (Forgive me if I made any mistakes)
User avatar #529 to #478 - robertolee (04/09/2013) [-]
Its because Venezuela sells oil below market price to the US
User avatar #530 to #529 - paesani (04/09/2013) [-]
Really? I thought we only sold it to south america...
User avatar #534 to #530 - robertolee (04/09/2013) [-]
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States%E2%80%93Venezuela_relations. They do sell the US oil and its why the US are on edge about venezuela because Hugo threatened to increase the oil price as less and less was being produced from the refineries. So the US is basically an asshole to all countries in central and south america, mostly latin america for its own benefit, check out Nicaragua from more info. Personally from what I know and have read about Hugo I thought he seemed like a great leader and slandered against in the world outside Venezuela.
User avatar #536 to #534 - paesani (04/09/2013) [-]
Well he did make great relations whit others... but internaly we're sufering. Still... I miss blaming everything on him, the new guys is really fucking dumb...
User avatar #540 to #536 - robertolee (04/09/2013) [-]
I thought his idea of uniting South/Latin america was a great idea. If you look at the statistics on World Bank, he actually reduced poverty alot and did quite a good job of your country. I would recommend voting for people from his party as the other major party in your country is US backed and when the Nicaraguans did that their country became a fucking mess.
User avatar #552 to #540 - paesani (04/09/2013) [-]
He did reduce poverty, a lot in fact, but crime is too high... also the inflation is killing us, aaand shortage is over 20%, He was a good president, but it could be better. I apreciate your time and patience, but the party chosed a horrible man... Nicolas Maduro, look for him
User avatar #554 to #552 - robertolee (04/09/2013) [-]
Yeah ive seen the crime rates, shits crazy!. Your country needs to move away from oil if possible because it is very dependant on it and the world is trying (failing) to move away from oil.
User avatar #559 to #554 - paesani (04/09/2013) [-]
Well, since our reserves are insane, we can make profit of it, torism is great and we have great iron mines, all of theses are going to eventualy vanish but we could invert the money on stuff. Oh by the way, Chavez used to expropiated buildings.
#428 to #130 - anonymous (04/09/2013) [-]
We get most of our oil from Venezuela and domestic sources. We import most of the rest from Canada. That makes up about 75% of our oil use.
#422 to #130 - anonymous (04/09/2013) [-]
Look up the petrodollar
User avatar #296 to #130 - hasanaat (04/09/2013) [-]
Because they sell in us dollars. Iraq refused to sell in US dollars and then it happened. Even after the war when the US left Iraq gave the middle finger to the US and all the contracts were taken by Turkey and various other European nations.
#268 to #130 - anonymous (04/09/2013) [-]
Hurr durrr... I don't care if it's a joke, I just care because you're joking about 'Murica.
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User avatar #242 to #236 - BlueToaster (04/08/2013) [-]
Yeah. Just ask Napolean and Hitler.
User avatar #352 to #242 - deathstare (04/09/2013) [-]
Dude... do you even see Hitler above you?
User avatar #589 to #352 - BlueToaster (04/09/2013) [-]
Yes. Just adding to your point.
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User avatar #597 to #595 - BlueToaster (04/11/2013) [-]
Then don't worry about it.
#223 to #130 - chickeniscrazy (04/08/2013) [-]
I highly doubt the US could successfully invade Russia, just wouldn't happen
#219 to #130 - rakoom (04/08/2013) [-]
You're getting there.
#159 to #130 - kolian (04/08/2013) [-]
Well drakthaal is generally right. And you can not invade Russia because the russians are going to kick your ass, that's pretty obvious.
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User avatar #167 to #159 - sketchE (04/08/2013) [-]
how so? the US airforce is the best in the world and it has been proven time and time again that air superiority is key in traditional warfare
User avatar #493 to #167 - jarofdirt (04/09/2013) [-]
Air superiority doesn't mean much when the ground forces the air superiority is supposed to support freezes to death.
User avatar #568 to #493 - sketchE (04/09/2013) [-]
arctic warfare training
adequite gear is standard issue
#158 to #130 - milkinmapockets (04/08/2013) [-]
Well, for Russia, idk if US would invade them ever. Russia is too big to inviade, and they're weapon tech is almost as good as the US'
User avatar #163 to #158 - sketchE (04/08/2013) [-]
actually they fell a little behind after the colapse of the soviet union. theyre close but not quite there
#429 to #163 - anonymous (04/09/2013) [-]
Isn't that exactly what he said?
#154 to #130 - drakthaal ONLINE (04/08/2013) [-]
no one claimed you invaded any country with oil, but you do when you have an excuse to do so. both Kuwait and Saudi Arabia are allies of the US, and Russia is a nuclear super power. Seems pretty obvious why you do not invade them.
User avatar #166 to #154 - sketchE (04/08/2013) [-]
the thing is all of our reasons for iraq were justified. every country in the western world believed they had WMDs. the issue is most people believe WMDs are just nukes when in fact biologic and chemical weapons are in the same catagory. sadam hussein had proved that he has chemical weapons when he used cern gas on his own people. it seems like a lot of people believe anyone will just launch a nuke on a whim.
User avatar #538 to #166 - robertolee (04/09/2013) [-]
Then why was an invasion of Iraq deemed completely illegal and a form of international terrorism by the World Court/The International Court of Justice. The British (I'm English) called for the prosecution of Tony Blair as our attorney general said the war would be illegal if we invaded then he was forced to resign. No proof of WMDs was ever found after multiple UN inspections. Yes we did a good thing by removing a tyrannical dictator but there has been even more terrorist groups become active since the invasion and the rest of Asia has a very low opinion of the US and Europe now.
User avatar #571 to #538 - sketchE (04/09/2013) [-]
yeah except the ones he used on his own people. but they dont count right? if memory serves the UN inspections went along the lines of
"Do you have WMDs?"
"no go home"
"ok"
whens the last time the UN actually did soemthing? think long and hard about the last time the UN told a country to stop genocide and inhumane treatment and they actually listened. hell whens the last time a country said fuck off to the UN and they shoved a well needed boot up their ass?

im not an expert on asia but do they really have that much room to judge us? memory serves many are dictatorships who censor their population as well as allowing and exploiting the hell out of child labor.

the US invasion wasnt the spawn of a bunch of terrorist groups. the different sects of islam have been waring for hundreds of years.

also if theres such an outcry from the british people why are your soldiers still alongside us? last i checked the UK was still a fairly democratic nation. why havent you guys yanked the fuckers out of office till someone says "ok bring them home now"?
User avatar #575 to #571 - robertolee (04/09/2013) [-]
Okay listen, clearly propaganda is your strong point.

UN inspection was thorough, they reported no WMDs multiple times, there was no WMDs after invasion

Asia has exploited child labour because of first world/developed countries TNCs! TRANSNATIONAL CORPORATIONS! These exploit child labour! that is developing countries fault, not the underdeveloped countries, they have no choice in the matter.

Al Qaeda is a result of US international terrorism, Al Qaeda before it was called as such was a terrorist group funded and supported by the CIA to terrorise Soviet Union interventions in the middle east, look it up, this is all 100% confirmed. Also as a result of the US invasion into Iraq and Afghanistan there have been alot more terrorist groups arise and gain support. Guys who bombed the bus in UK "I saw the atrocities being committed against my people in my home country and felt we needed to do something about it"

And learn to use fucking google! Tony Blair had a full on trial! The war in Iraq was ANTI-DEMOCRATIC. A massive a majority of the UK did not want to go to war and we haven't pulled out because we aren't irresponsible assholes who fuck a country sideways then walk away! We owe it to the people of the middle east to fix our fucking mess! To put it short, you don't walk into another man's house, take a shit, then don't flush.
User avatar #577 to #575 - sketchE (04/09/2013) [-]
you still ignore that he could have had them because he did use them at one point

if asia has such a problem with it why arent they stopping it?

the guy who bombed the bus. what group is he from? or was he just an un associated muslim extremist?

so its ok that you guys are still over there but were douchebags for it?

my friend just got back from deployment and he has a lot of pictures with little iraqi kids smiling with him. the US is getting absolutely no benefit from being over there. soldiers on deployment dont make the government money so why are we there? because were actually doing good. if you insist on it fine starting the war was an evil act but it was an evil act that is leading to good
User avatar #578 to #577 - robertolee (04/09/2013) [-]
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Have a read and enlighten yourself. Some soldiers are the fucking scum of the earth and are committing horrible atrocities in Iraq, rape, murder, molestation and other crimes. This has caused the rise of terrorism in the area, if you can find the figures have a read.

Yes he was killing Kurds but he has no WMDs.

You can't kick a TNC out of your country if it is generating massive profit and paying taxes (Which most of them don't) The Third World is in $500 Billion worth of debt, they are not in any position to turn down money and companies.

That group of guys became terrorists because they saw what was happening in iraq and got stories from people over there (Another example of an increase in terrorism)

Yes its okay we are still there because we are now there to train police forces, military, set up a democratic government and provide protection. We weren't there for anything like that in the beginning.

The US is benefiting from all the free fucking oil flowing out of occupied refineries, they direct it to allies, making profits and earning favours. The US is absolutely ridiculous, a fucking disgrace of a country and the worlds biggest terrorist group and just because a democratic government (a laughable idea of democracy) and is a superpower no fucking world organisation dares to prosecute them or condemn them, George Bush should have been hung alongside Saddam Hussein.

"God told me to invade Iraq" - George W Bush. (Professional Cunt)
User avatar #579 to #578 - sketchE (04/09/2013) [-]
you know we hate those soldiers more than anyone else right?

news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/march/16/newsid_4304000/4304853.stm

some reading of your own to do

so you cant kick a company out if its making you money yet they arent?

dont get me started on all the fucked up shit the UK has done in its history. you have absolutely no room to talk. should i go as far back as the crusades or is a more modern example of india better suited. this is why i hate anti america jokes like this because your hands are just as if not more bloody than ours
User avatar #580 to #579 - robertolee (04/09/2013) [-]
Yeah and those are your fucking soldiers!

Yes, poison gas attacks, not nuclear or other types of WMDs.

They won't kick a company out that provides jobs and income to their people and country, the TNCs take advantage of this and abuse their rights. Third world countries are in no position to turn down jobs or money.

Yes the UK is a fucking disgrace, we went to iraq with yous, at least we acknowledge that! Millions of Americans are so far up their own fucking arse they can't see the light for the shit. The UK has done some terrible stuff and we probably still fucking are but the US are an absolute disgrace even in the modern world. Nicaragua, Venezuela, Iraq, Afghanistan, Al Qaeda, Cuba, Bolivia and that is just to name a few!! Your government ships prisoners to Egypt so they can legally torture them for information! Our hands are bloody with Iraq and the past but the hands of the American government will forever be bloody with every country they have fucked over which even includes their own people.

The World Court officially ruled America as a terrorist state. Only a matter of time before the people of America become wise to the shit your government has pulled.

Just to clarify, I am not anti-american, I think your country has achieved some fantastic things and has produced some of the greatest intellectuals of all time but your current government and over the past 60-80 years has been run by a bunch of absolute cunts who are only in it to line their own pockets and help their friends. Your government is the one that needs to be scrapped and rebuilt, and to be honest we probably need that in the UK too.
User avatar #581 to #580 - sketchE (04/09/2013) [-]
as i said we hate them too. dont use the minority to represent the majority

you completely missed the part about biologic and chemical didnt you? serin and mustard gas are chemical weapons therefore WMDs.

most of those countries you listed had shit leaders theres a venezuelan in the thread who says his country was fucked by its own government not ours. why al qaeda, a terrorist orginization that believed in bin ladens fatwa saying every american man woman and child should be killed, has any right to be anything other than fucked over.

also i find it strange that i cant find a single mention of the world court saying the US is a terrorist state. not even on their website

i have to ask if you have ever read the prince. or at least its main points. government is in an endless cycle of suck because humans are shit. or at least thats what i got from it. thats why we have the special right to remove political officials from office immedietly if we so chose. i dont know how parliment works exactly but im pretty sure it takes more than one person to start a war. why is only one man taking the blame then?

User avatar #582 to #581 - robertolee (04/09/2013) [-]
"Most of these countries had shit leaders"

Saddam Hussein, the AMERICAN BACKED leader you mean? You mean the guys the americans put in charge and sold weapons too?

Nicaragua, the AMERICAN BACKED candidate won, country now down the shitter

Al Qaeda, the AMERICAN FUNDED terrorist organisation

Venezuela, Hugo Chavez did a good job of running venezuela and raised most of the country above the poverty line, AMERICA FUNDED a coup and supplied weapons. The majority did not approve of this coup and kicked out the american back candidate.

US is a well know terrorist state, fucking google it. Google "America sponsors terrorism"
User avatar #584 to #582 - sketchE (04/09/2013) [-]
im just done. you say your not anti american but you are. you hate our government, you hate the people who serve our government and you hate the people who decide whos in our government. you have contradicted yourself multiple times and after i went to the source of your claim you said to look somewhere else.

im going to end with something i mentioned in my last comment. according to machiavelis the prince a king will beleading a country and for years it will be good. when his son is put on the thrown he will see only the power he has and not the responsibility that comes with it. the people sick of the tyrant will remove him and put an aristocricy into place and for years it will be good. the aristocrats soon too will become blinded by theyre power and work for themselves not the people. the people fed up with the abuse of power will rise up and remove the aristocrats from power and put in a democracy. this too will be good for years. eventually however greed and ignorance will corrupt democracy. the people tired of the failed government will remove it and place a king on the thrown restarting the cycle

i hope you have a nice day and realize that theyer are people in this world who are willing to give theyre lives for total strangers and do so everyday
User avatar #588 to #584 - robertolee (04/09/2013) [-]
I'm anti american government, your government is a disgrace, the american people I have no problem with as you people are the ones being screwed over by your own corrupt system.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State-sponsored_terrorism#United_States
Bottom of the page, US examples of sponsoring terrorism.

You sit there and defend your government in the face of these facts which disgrace your government, looks like you're just another american who takes everything the media tells him at face value. Enjoy your delusional paradise and pretend like your government its a stain on the world if it makes you happy.
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#169 to #166 - drakthaal ONLINE (04/08/2013) [-]
excuse me, check your sources. the CIA specifically advised your government not to invade due to that the claims they had wmd's were not plausible. and the source claiming they had WMD's were nigerian and were deemed not very trustworthy by the CIA. and most of the western world believed they had WMD's because your government held a press conference were they said they had WMD's next to no one thought they had WMD's before that
User avatar #572 to #169 - sketchE (04/09/2013) [-]
the cia also said to assassinate the leader of south vietnam and give the moujahadine lots of weapons
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#207 to #200 - drakthaal ONLINE (04/08/2013) [-]
we are sitting on the internet right now feel free to check the interviews with the earlier leader of the CIA. you should maybe check the basis for a claim before supporting it.
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#214 to #210 - drakthaal ONLINE (04/08/2013) [-]
amongst others 60 minutes did a story about it
#395 to #214 - bloodangel (04/09/2013) [-]
And thus, the internet fight was won.
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