Canada. One more reason why I love this country. Canada has specifically banned members of the Westboro Baptist Church from entering the country. 7: 47 PM 2, 10 canada wbc shitstorm
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Canada. One more reason why I love this country. Canada has specifically banned members of the Westboro Baptist Church from entering the country. 7: 47 PM 2, 10

One more reason why I love this country

Canada has specifically banned
members of the Westboro Baptist
Church from entering the country.
7: 47 PM
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User avatar #10 - kurbzz (03/25/2013) [-]
User avatar #361 to #10 - asdcfg (03/26/2013) [-]
I don't get why this is funny, please explain.
#364 to #361 - drolom (03/26/2013) [-]
America -> 'Murica
Canada -> 'Anada
User avatar #365 to #364 - asdcfg (03/26/2013) [-]
I feel really dumb -_-
#390 to #365 - drolom (03/26/2013) [-]
Don't worry brah, it happens
User avatar #367 to #10 - Killerwale ONLINE (03/26/2013) [-]
Just Canada is fine, proper speech is best speech, have a nice day and sorry to rain on your parade (if it felt like so).
#377 to #10 - PArmageddon loaded ONLINE (03/26/2013) [-]

except for some reason I pronounced it (Ah-Nah-Duh)
User avatar #159 - DmOnZ (03/26/2013) [-]
For people wondering why this is possible, allow me to explain. The United States of America's rights and freedoms are governed and detailed by the Constitution, which is a steadfast, unchanging document. Canada's Charter of Rights and Freedoms is similar, but has the flexibility to fit certain situations. The reason why the US really couldn't do anything about WBC is that they were technically exercising within the parameters of free speech. If they wished to ban them from protesting, then it would go against the constitution and cause a whole bunch of horse **** . Canada on the other hand, is able to pick and choose (based on evidence) of what is free speech and what is hate speech. (Just so people don't think that the Government has veto power over free speech, there are certain sections of our constitution and Charter of Rights and Freedoms which prevent the government from restricting what media and general people say). In essence (and theory), Canada is more run on a public opinion/reaction than political parameters, which is why WBC is banned.
User avatar #167 to #159 - NotChoCheese (03/26/2013) [-]
Also because "freedom of speech" is not described in the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. "Freedom of expression" is. If that expression is offensive to other citizens, it can be banned.
User avatar #172 to #167 - DmOnZ (03/26/2013) [-]
That totally slipped my mind, thanks for pointing it out though.
User avatar #174 to #172 - NotChoCheese (03/26/2013) [-]
No problem. It seems that Socials 10 did SOME good after all.
User avatar #185 to #174 - DmOnZ (03/26/2013) [-]
I had such a bad teacher for socials 10... I had to learn all that stuff on my own to pass the provincial... and now look at me, going into poli-sci.
User avatar #193 to #185 - NotChoCheese (03/26/2013) [-]
Oh congratulations! If you don't mind me asking, where are you studying?
User avatar #198 to #193 - DmOnZ (03/26/2013) [-]
Bishop's University starting out, then hopefully RMC.
User avatar #201 to #198 - NotChoCheese (03/26/2013) [-]
Quebec, nice.
User avatar #207 to #201 - DmOnZ (03/26/2013) [-]
Yeah, I thought, why not kick off my political career in a province that is the most involved. I can see my plan backfiring though... I try not to think about that too much.
User avatar #210 to #207 - NotChoCheese (03/26/2013) [-]
I'm sure you'll do very well. Best of luck!
User avatar #228 to #159 - appleboom (03/26/2013) [-]
There is some flexibility in the US, though. If all speech and expression were allowed, then we wouldn't have laws making it illegal for minors to view pornography.
User avatar #254 to #228 - ottoboys (03/26/2013) [-]
or pornography to view minors. ill leave now
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User avatar #216 to #159 - jinjo (03/26/2013) [-]
TL;DR Section one says that certain rights and freedoms can be taken away under certain limitations, or if it infringes on another person's freedom.

Also, they aren't Canadian citezens, so I don't think we need to justify why we don't let them in right? Or am I wrong?
User avatar #168 to #159 - snowshark (03/26/2013) [-]
"The United States of America's rights and freedoms are governed and detailed by the Constitution, which is a steadfast, unchanging document."

Do I need to define to you the meaning of the word "amendment"?
User avatar #183 to #168 - lokiwins (03/26/2013) [-]
Yeah but to amend the constitution it requires a huge amount of work by politicians, and anyone who would try to take away freedom of speech would most likely get ********** next election.
User avatar #188 to #183 - snowshark (03/26/2013) [-]
Oh I'm not saying that there aren't a mountain of things in the way of that (namely the ******* awful democratic system that has turned democracy in America into a "who is the lesser of two turds" competition).

I'm just saying that it isn't unchanging.
User avatar #205 to #188 - lokiwins (03/26/2013) [-]
Yeah I was about to say you are right, that it can be changed.
User avatar #181 to #168 - shinypokemans (03/26/2013) [-]
Well, to be fair, it's really hard to get an amendment to pass. Hundreds of amendments have been proposed, but as of right now there's only 27.
User avatar #182 to #168 - DmOnZ (03/26/2013) [-]
Amendments are hard to change, just look at the second amendment and the problem it's causing. Canada's charter of Rights and Freedoms is much easier to change, it's hard to explain, but I'll put it as bluntly as I can. The last amendment (the 27th) added to the constitution was in 1992, since then it's been pretty much the same as it was in 1787. Canada's Charter on the other hand, is constantly evolving to fit the desires of the Canadian people. It is more... organic, than the constitution.
User avatar #197 to #182 - snowshark (03/26/2013) [-]
I'm not saying that the american democratic system isn't ******* terrible and based upon a massively outdated document that has caused a great deal of strife over the years. I'm just saying that it's not unchanging, it's just that the political system in the US is so awful that any changes made to it would be either too minute to make a dent or completely impossible to pass.
User avatar #206 to #197 - DmOnZ (03/26/2013) [-]
That seems to be the trend. I wasn't trying to say the Constitution, as someone going into poli-sci I think it's one the most important documents of all time. That being said, all documents have imperfections, and while I admit that it is changing, the nature of the document itself is to be so steadfast that any government who tries to change it in a large way will run into road block after road block after road block. THis was designed to protect people's rights so that future governments wouldn't be able to take away rights. Unfortunately, it seems that people have found loopholes to enact prejudice and hate speech within legal parameters.
User avatar #223 to #206 - snowshark (03/26/2013) [-]
Such is the problem with a document that is centuries out of date. The document itself, the words on it and the laws themselves are entirely unimportant. What is important is the principles that it sets forth. Freedom, truth, honour and the like. These are fantastic principles that made America into one of the greatest nations of all time. However the world has changed more in the past 50 years than it has in the past 5000 years and the document itself is out of date, constricting the nation now rather than empowering it.

America is no longer the shining jewel it once was. Even as a Brit it saddens me that the principals set forth by the founding fathers (some of the greatest men of all time... even if they started the revolution because they didn't want to pay taxes...) are now shat on by the people they fought to protect.
#180 to #159 - heroicvenom (03/26/2013) [-]
User avatar #194 to #180 - DmOnZ (03/26/2013) [-]
It's not the US's fault, the constitution is one of thousands of documents outlining the rights and freedoms of people. Don't get me wrong, the constitution is an amazing piece of documentation, however, it has it's imperfections. Canada's charter of rights and freedoms wasn't signed until well after the Constitution was in place, and the governing body was able to see the pitfalls and benefits of the entire paper. So noticing the problems, we made a hybrid of the UK's charter and the US's constitution, allowing an organic document similar to the UK's which contained laws similar to the Constitution's which protected Canadian people.
#321 to #194 - anon (03/26/2013) [-]
It's not the US' fault. So the constitution depends of who?
User avatar #213 to #194 - DmOnZ (03/26/2013) [-]
Holy **** that last bit sounded really weird, let me rephrase. "Canada's Charter of Rights and Freedoms has the organic capabilities of the UK's charter as well as the laws governing rights and freedoms in the Constitution."
User avatar #51 - sledmondson ONLINE (03/26/2013) [-]
i think canada is a pretty cool guy, eh bans westboro baptist church and doesn't afraid of anything
#62 to #51 - anon (03/26/2013) [-]
Its such a good thing that they doesn't afraid of anything
#344 to #62 - anon (03/26/2013) [-]
fak u noofag
#106 - snowshark (03/26/2013) [-]
Interestingly enough the UK have had them banned from entering the county since 2009 because they were deemed to be "engaged in unacceptable behaviour by inciting hatred against a number of communities".

That's not all. An alliance of six UK religious groups (the Baptist Union of Great Britain, Evangelical Alliance UK, Faithworks, Methodist Church of Great Britain, United Reformed Church and Bible Society-funded thinktank Theos) made a joint statement condemning the activities of the Westboro Baptist Church saying, "We do not share Westboro's hatred of lesbian and gay people. We believe that God loves all, irrespective of sexual orientation, and we unreservedly stand against their message of hate toward those communities."

Canada is not alone in seeing what absolutely disgusting human beings the people of that church are and I hope to god that those bastards never set foot in either of our countries whilst they're still spewing their ignorance from every orifice.
#368 to #106 - silverlance (03/26/2013) [-]
Thats what I like to hear
User avatar #415 to #106 - moobur (04/21/2013) [-]
What is the web series that that picture is from?
User avatar #416 to #415 - snowshark (04/22/2013) [-]
Switzerland and the World
#221 to #106 - aerosol (03/26/2013) [-]
But if they're barred from pretty much every major country but ours, does that mean we're stuck with them!?
User avatar #225 to #221 - snowshark (03/26/2013) [-]
I don't mean to sound harsh but... Canada, The USA and the UK are not the only major countries in the world and, to my knowledge, it is only the UK and Canada that they are not allowed in. Australia, China, Japan, France, Germany, Sweden... there are plenty of places to send them.

Personally I'd send them to Lybia and see how long they last (sort of like mixing black comedy with reality T.V... would be hilarious).
User avatar #233 to #225 - aerosol (03/26/2013) [-]
That wasn't even a tiny bit harsh. It was downright fair.
Anyhow, I guess I just assumed they had become malevolently outspoken enough to get broad range of international attention. Personally, I would love to see how they'd hold up if they were all spontaneously transported to somewhere like S.Sudan.
User avatar #238 to #233 - snowshark (03/26/2013) [-]
Sorry, I know. But if you open your sentence with an apology then people tend to be more open to the things you have to say. You start the conversation as a sympathetic party who is concerned about the feelings of the person with whom you are talking. People are more inclined to listen to you as you have opened up the conversation with kindness.

It is basic psychology. The right word in the right place can change the way people look at you and the things you say.

A good example is what it would be like if the apology was at the end of the sentence rather than the beginning. From a psychological standpoint it seems more like a last-minute protection of yourself than it does an attempt to save the feelings of another.

Granted, all that goes to **** the moment you start explaining the psychology behind it because once people know that you can manipulate their feelings towards you they become more wary of you because you have suddenly become something of a threat.

E.G. Meaningful physical contact someone for more than 20 seconds makes them trust you more and makes them want to hear the things you say more. It is because of chemicals in the brain that are built into you as a reactionary facility to help strengthen long-term (and especially intimate) relationships.

I hug people a lot and offer lots of piggybacks (sometimes I get a few as well). When you know how the brain works, suddenly a simple conversation can make you feel like a ******* evil genius, pulling the strings from behind the scenes and manipulating people without them ever knowing it.

And don't worry, dude. ^_^ World's a big place and most governments just don't consider the WBC their problem. There are a few that have threatened to ban them over planned protests within their borders but as the protests were not followed through the bans never happened.
User avatar #406 to #375 - snowshark (03/27/2013) [-]
Life's a game, dude.

Psychology is life's cheat-sheet.

I be glitchin' out so mad bitches be callin' hax!
#243 to #238 - aerosol (03/26/2013) [-]
Well, well, well. Looks like somebody got good marks in Communications class. Thanks for taking the time to type all of that out. I have sincerely enjoyed this intellectual conversation.
Well, well, well. Looks like somebody got good marks in Communications class. Thanks for taking the time to type all of that out. I have sincerely enjoyed this intellectual conversation.
User avatar #247 to #243 - snowshark (03/26/2013) [-]
Never took a class. I learned all this from research, observation and conversations with psychologists.

It was a fortunate biproduct of my wish to learn more about human character for the sake of creative writing. I too have enjoyed the conversation.

Love the hazard symbol logo btw.
User avatar #252 to #247 - aerosol (03/26/2013) [-]
That's an interesting coincidence. I've always been partial to learning about human character as well and I've never really had any education on the subject either. Yet, I've been told that I'm talented when it comes to creative writing(not that I entirely agree). I'd love to discuss it with you some other time though, if I may.
User avatar #257 to #252 - snowshark (03/26/2013) [-]
By all means, chummy.
#107 to #106 - werrew (03/26/2013) [-]
Yay for Britain
#117 to #107 - snowshark (03/26/2013) [-]
Bloody good show, lads.

We're all in this together.
User avatar #229 to #107 - snowshark (03/26/2013) [-]
Also, correct me if I'm wrong but is not the entirety of north America comprised of simply... Canada and the USA? So is it not easier to just say "North America Approves"?
User avatar #369 to #229 - werrew (03/26/2013) [-]
Yea but this is a pic from one of my fandoms... so yea sorry bout that
User avatar #408 to #369 - snowshark (03/27/2013) [-]
Hetalia, aye?
User avatar #409 to #408 - werrew (03/27/2013) [-]
User avatar #343 to #229 - vileghas (03/26/2013) [-]
central america is considered to be part of north america, so there are about 20 countries in north america
User avatar #407 to #343 - snowshark (03/27/2013) [-]
Oh? Interesting. Thank you.
#2 - adrenacrome (03/25/2013) [-]
One thing we truly, honestly refuse to apologize for. Right to free speech, fine, but that kind of speech has no place in our country.
User avatar #372 to #2 - menqudoneix (03/26/2013) [-]
I'm pretty sure it's not "freed om of speech", but "freedom of thought".
#285 to #2 - anon (03/26/2013) [-]
soooo then it's not really free speech then is it?

Don't get me wrong.. I find those ******* repugnant awful wastes of life. But don't say you believe in free speech but then deny people the ability to do it just because they said something you don't like.
#346 to #285 - anon (03/26/2013) [-]
You shouldn't expect theese kids to understand.
#5 to #2 - anon (03/25/2013) [-]
>free speech

>"that kind of speech"

you are retarded.
User avatar #7 to #5 - smeagoldor (03/25/2013) [-]
slander and defamation are also a type of restricted speech
#284 to #7 - anon (03/26/2013) [-]
restricted speech?if speech is restricted illegal or not allowed in any way than it isnt free. you ignorant cunts
User avatar #410 to #284 - trollins (03/27/2013) [-]
u tryn trole me?

#376 to #5 - anon (03/26/2013) [-]
*I am retarded
User avatar #266 to #2 - sockprague (03/26/2013) [-]
There are very few restrictions to freedom of speech in the USA. If we ban them from spouting their hate, we set a precedent. Lawyers in America made a law that freed the slaves a precedent for making corporations "people". I just want my kids to live in an america where they can say ****** ...
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#370 to #2 - alldaypk (03/26/2013) [-]
*I'm sorry, we can't let you into this country.*
#34 to #2 - sandworm (03/26/2013) [-]
in Canada we allow free speech, as long as its not hate speech, then it becomes illegal.
#77 to #34 - anon (03/26/2013) [-]
then i guess a whole lot hinges on what hate speech is defined as. in general i would find that concerning, but if they're not your citizens you can of course deny entry to whoever the **** you want.
#230 to #77 - ocnamesaregone (03/26/2013) [-]
Not that much. Any hate speech professed in public, agaisnt a specific and easily identifiable group is illegal.

Because that kind of hate is probably unjustified, and thus can go **** itself.
#248 to #34 - anon (03/26/2013) [-]
then... it isn't truly free now is it?
#105 - zzombiee (03/26/2013) [-]
God, I love being Canadian.
God, I love being Canadian.
User avatar #1 - hilariousrubbish (03/25/2013) [-]
#261 - iamtheblackgoat (03/26/2013) [-]
You guys really got us this respect for Canada just went +1
User avatar #4 - zafara (03/25/2013) [-]
Just had to look this up. It's actually true. I'm happy now.
#64 - romdadon (03/26/2013) [-]
we didnt do it sooner
#98 to #64 - tomthehippie (03/26/2013) [-]
Captain Canada!

Fun fact, in Vietnam and Korean wars Canadian's enlisted in our military to help us fight those wars.

Canada, you are like America's younger brother. We pick on you and call you names, but when the **** is going down, you got our back.
#202 - mikoli (03/26/2013) [-]
Canadian Baptist Church
#39 - thisotherdude (03/26/2013) [-]
I have never been prouder to be Canadian than I am at this moment, and I'm pretty proud of my country in most scenario's.
#251 to #39 - anon (03/26/2013) [-]
yep, good ol canada once again showing us the real freedom.... right? oh wait
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#59 to #29 - bluelight (03/26/2013) [-]
User avatar #35 - HordeyWordey (03/26/2013) [-]
Goddamn, it seems like Canada and Western/Northern Europe are looking like better and better places to live than good ol' Murica...
User avatar #212 - DaShae (03/26/2013) [-]
Citation needed
User avatar #3 - beasert (03/25/2013) [-]
They are specifically banning members if they are coming to protest, not just because they are members.
#204 - saladtongsofdeath (03/26/2013) [-]
one of my good friends is canadian-mexican.... only ************ that ive heard jumped the border TWICE... he told me " **** this, i need free healthcare"
#269 - watertype (03/26/2013) [-]
And gay marriage is legal nation wide
#253 - diespitris (03/26/2013) [-]
Canada's face when...

Canada's face when...
User avatar #326 - durkadurka ONLINE (03/26/2013) [-]
The WBC says some very vile things, and anyone with common sense would want to ban them from doing what they do.

The issue in doing so is that you're placing limits on free speech. You're saying that it's okay to remove someone's rights as long as you have a good reason for it.

And while this is reasonable now, who's to say that unreasonable restrictions won't be justified in the future? Freedom means we must let others say and do things we do not like.
User avatar #335 to #326 - eddymolly ONLINE (03/26/2013) [-]
Thats not what freedom of speech is. Freedom of speech allows you to say what you like provided its not " libel, slander, obscenity, sedition (including, for example inciting ethnic hatred), copyright violation, revelation of information that is classified or otherwise"

Westbro breaks this, so they can be punished for it. Simple
User avatar #341 to #335 - durkadurka ONLINE (03/26/2013) [-]
The problem is that Westboro doesn't exactly break this. Their speech, as hateful and crude as it is, constitutes a form of religious/political speech an is considered protected (at least here in the states).

We must be hesitant to ban any speech. There is little to gain from such action, but much to lose.
User avatar #379 to #341 - trevcars (03/26/2013) [-]
i see what you're saying, and If they wanna spread their **** in the states go ahead, but they have no reason to be coming over the border. Just like If you were next door to me you can say all the hate you want, but step on my property and start saying it and then we have a problem.
User avatar #392 to #341 - eddymolly ONLINE (03/26/2013) [-]
Still seems a bit stupid to me. If I were to start a religion based on revealing American Military secrets, i'd be instantly arrested, yet you can have a religion based on bashing other people and thats allowed.

Just seems a bit double standard really.
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