Sadness. Sorry no funny here. I am just curious what the funnyjunkers think about this. Do you think ignorance is bliss? Do you think everything can be sacrific Happiness Truth intelligence simpsons lisa fuandfara


Sadness. Sorry no funny here. I am just curious what the funnyjunkers think about this. Do you think ignorance is bliss? Do you think everything can be sacrific

Sorry no funny here. I am just curious what the funnyjunkers think about this. Do you think ignorance is bliss? Do you think everything can be sacrificed to uncover the truth? What does Funnyjunk prefer? Happiness or truth or maybe even both?

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#19 - anon (03/17/2013) [-]
Ok guys you're all geniuses and that's why you're ******* miserable we get it now go to ******* sleep
User avatar #178 to #19 - ForNarniaaa (03/18/2013) [-]
keep talking, meg.
#2 - critique (03/17/2013) [-]
If you're intelligent and your life is devoid of happiness, might I suggest a path of insanity? You can be intelligent, delusional, AND happy all at the same time!
If you're intelligent and your life is devoid of happiness, might I suggest a path of insanity? You can be intelligent, delusional, AND happy all at the same time!
#114 to #2 - slashendrix (03/18/2013) [-]
Excuse me. I am trying to do the fish stick. It is a very delicate state of mind.
#6 to #2 - rubinroon (03/17/2013) [-]
Truth and delusion dont fit very well, but i like the way you are thinking, my friend ;)
User avatar #7 to #6 - critique (03/17/2013) [-]
There's more than one type of intelligence. Being intelligent doesn't have to mean you accept the truth.
#8 to #7 - rubinroon (03/17/2013) [-]
Very true about the different types of intelligence. But accepting the truth is the very thing i am talking about. It can lead to joy, happiness, but also to misery and depression. I just want to know how you guys feel about it.
User avatar #9 to #8 - critique (03/17/2013) [-]
There's something to be said for accepting the truth and moving on. You don't have to dwell on negatives. Sometimes it's better to acknowledge the little things in life.
I know that's ridiculously cliche, but it's helped me through some of the toughest times in my life.
#11 to #9 - rubinroon (03/17/2013) [-]
Thank you dearly for your opinion on this. that is just the feedback i was looking for. But dont you see for example the vast universe and see all this, which we cannot comprehend, and you just go on? Doesnt the thought of what it out there and what we mean and can do trap you? I, sometimes, just cannot move on from a thought, which is so important, so decisive to what i am.
User avatar #13 to #11 - critique (03/17/2013) [-]
In my short lifetime, I will see the human race evolve as new ideas and discoveries are made. Our medicine, knowledge of the universe, technology, and other such things will see dramatic changes and improvements (if all goes well).

and I would love to come back to this conversation in the morning when I am rested and able to think more clearly. I will certainly come back if you wish to continue.
#14 to #13 - rubinroon (03/17/2013) [-]
Much appreciated ^^ now rest our heroes. I am looking forward to our conversation.
User avatar #74 to #2 - EvilWolf (03/17/2013) [-]
i tried that before. people just kept telling me to shut up. i'd rather be happy playing videos games for hours.
#69 - lafuriaroja (03/17/2013) [-]
User avatar #59 - Ninotori (03/17/2013) [-]
Frankly, I think it should be more of a parabola. There is a point where your intelligence starts to help you realize the beauty of life, even in its imperfection.

Worked for Carl Sagan that way, for example.
User avatar #61 to #59 - neongreenkitty (03/17/2013) [-]
That's an interesting way to look at it :3
User avatar #62 to #61 - Ninotori (03/17/2013) [-]
Worked that way for me. I still get depressed periodically, but as I've grown up I've gotten happier because I understand things better, and I can see the good through the bad. It's tough to do that when your stupid.
#18 - penguinsdoingit (03/17/2013) [-]
"Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know."
- Ernest Hemingway

Hemingway, however, was miserable during his life; he had 7 different wives, several more girlfriends and ended up killing himself. Probably shouldn't take that too seriously.

The problem, though, with this is everyone who's unhappy will instantly think they're intelligent.
User avatar #63 to #18 - sawkward (03/17/2013) [-]
im quit happy does this then make me not intelligent?

i find being able to enjoy life makes you an intelligent person...,
#64 to #63 - penguinsdoingit (03/17/2013) [-]
The two don't necessarily have a direct correlation, but there is a pattern that people who are intelligent tend to be unhappy.

To enjoy life is such a vague expression and disregards the different destinies lives can have. So no, you can't make a distinction like that.
#105 to #64 - anon (03/18/2013) [-]
empirical evidence will tell you the correlation doesn't exist in either direction.
User avatar #93 - Bruda (03/18/2013) [-]
Rotate it 90ยบ you pessimistic cunt.
#28 - themrsunshine (03/17/2013) [-]
I sometimes think the link between happiness and intelligence is slightly overrated. Most people consider themselves intelligence even through they might not seem it. There have been several intelligent and sad people, but haven't there also been lots of people, who were both stupid and depressed?

Just because some people are depressed doesn't mean they are intelligent, and happy people aren't always ignorant and stupid...
#50 to #28 - kez (03/17/2013) [-]
One of the main problems is there are 8 types of intellegence. Academic is just one of eight.

Social intellegence is another. You know some people who arent very clever but they can get on with everyone and everyone thinks they are cool/ they get all the girls?

They are social genius' with way above average social intellegence. I'd much rather be a social genius than Academic genius
#3 - taintedangel (03/17/2013) [-]
Intelligence wouldn't cause so much unhappiness if there weren't so many stupid ******* people on this planet.
User avatar #45 to #3 - colegaleener (03/17/2013) [-]
self righteous douche.
#44 - kez (03/17/2013) [-]
Id say it was more like this.

If you're a retard you're not gonna have much fun, and you'll be happier the more intellegent you get until you get to the point where you can get to as intellegent as you can be a little ditzy but have the ignorence is bliss part,

When you get past that, you dont have the ignorence is bliss and are just less intellegent than everyone else, so thats gonna suck. And it slowly gets better until you get a bit more intellegent than average. Then it kinda plateaus at high, cos you are intellegent without being too intellegent.

Then it would go down as you get too intellegent and you will find it hard to fit in with people and socialise well with others.

Its estimated people get along best with people around the same IQ of about 10-15 on average.

And remember there are 8 types of intellegence. Academic intellegence is just one.

#196 to #44 - anon (03/18/2013) [-]
I've seen quite a lot of retards in my time and they're some of the happiest people...
#211 to #196 - kez (03/18/2013) [-]
Yeah, but by retard I mean the actual meaning of retard. Slow, so stupid.

Not mentally disabled/ handicapped low intellegence
User avatar #73 - fukkendragonite (03/17/2013) [-]
I agree with this post.


I am of average intelligence, and my life is meh, so maybe there is some truth to it. But you gotta be pretty self-righteous and up your own arse to think that you have it worse than anyone else and to think that it's cos you're smart.
#16 - EdwardNigma (03/17/2013) [-]
I believe I'm an intelligent man, for the most part, even if I look like a ******* moron half the time, I still believe I am intelligent.

But my sadness doesn't come from some **** like "Crushed by my own genius" or some **** like that. I'm sad because my life goes wrong often. Sure, my intelligence causes me to overthink and freak myself out, but it's easy to dispel that, it's not the reason I'm depressed.

I will use my cleverness and brilliance to conquer depression, not let it drag me down. I will achieve my dreams with my intelligence, not let it kill them. Logically, my dream is not profitable or maybe even feasible in my case. Will that stop me? No. Because if I let my intelligence hold me back instead of helping me move forward, whats the point of having it? I use it to fight the depression, not cause it.
#47 to #16 - kez (03/17/2013) [-]
Most people beleive they are above average intellegence.
#40 to #16 - CanadianNuts (03/17/2013) [-]
User avatar #57 - ilovehitler (03/17/2013) [-]
This graph is such a lie.
I'm stupid and unhappy.
I'm so lonely without hitler
User avatar #58 to #57 - dreadedsin (03/17/2013) [-]
Are you Eva Braun?

Just curious.
#65 to #57 - jrondeau **User deleted account** (03/17/2013) [-]
Here, have this.
#95 - rafeky (03/18/2013) [-]
It's funny how well structured the comments are on this post compared to others.
#143 - mcismyname (03/18/2013) [-]
I agree with this graph.
Happiness is harder to attain when you are intelligent, or observant and analytical at least. Intelligent people, simply put, notice too much to be happy.
They are too self-aware. They see their own faults, their problems, the burdens tomorrow and the day after will bring.
They see the behaviors of their surrounding brethren, and are saddened, angered, by senseless debauchery, because they themselves are capable of being better and in turn expect this of their peers.
Intelligent people also place much higher expectations on themselves. Aware of the extent of their capabilities, their personal definition of success, whether consciously realized or not, is greater than that of a less intelligent person. This means they have to work harder, achieve more, to feel the same sense of satisfaction as someone else.
The result? A small percentage of people who are insecure, angry at the people around them without knowing why, and constantly sad - the hollow, empty sadness that indicates something is missing.
There's a reason the overconfident jock and timid nerd stereotypes exist - because, to some extent, they are true. Physical types are far more appreciated because intelligent people are less inclined towards self-celebration, all too aware of their own mental and physical flaws.
So take your pick. Ignorance is bliss, not for the romanticized idea of worldly innocence, but for the vision that allows its user to see into another world, one where deception and self-interest reign beneath the surface of goodwill, silver linings only hide grayer clouds, and the most horrifying spectacle lies within one's self.
#153 to #143 - anon (03/18/2013) [-]
Stop trying to sound smart and go look at the scholarly research first.
#159 to #153 - mcismyname (03/18/2013) [-]
I'm not trying to sound smart. I like writing, and this topic seemed particularly interesting.
If you think I'm trying to sound smart it's because you think I sound smart and you don't like that, so you convince yourself that I'm "trying to sound smart" because that makes it less likely that I do sound smart.
And what research would you like me to see?
#168 to #159 - anon (03/18/2013) [-]
No. Just no. There you go doing it again. I don't think you sound smart. I think you're using wording to convince others that you are. But here you are, making all these claims about how you know all about how people work etc.

When the evidence, the scientifically deduced evidence, the empirically observed evidence, will tell you that everything you just said is complete ********* because there is either no correlation, or a slightly positive correlation between happiness and intelligence.

Or you could, you know, ignore all the science and just go with how you "feel" about it.
#180 to #168 - mcismyname (03/18/2013) [-]
I'm all ears. Show me this 'empirically observed evidence'.
How I write is how I write. I don't use certain words to make myself seem smarter.
I use certain words because those words are the ones that come to mind when I want to convey my message clearly, a product of what I've read and heard over seventeen years.
Just because you think they sound smart to the general audience does not mean I am trying for that.
So make do without baseless accusations and present your 'scientifically deduced evidence', which, if it exists, implies there is a quantifiable way of measuring happiness.
#185 to #180 - anon (03/18/2013) [-]
You obviously still haven't even bothered to go see for yourself. You also clearly don't know much about the topic at all if you didn't even know that. I'm not going to waste my time going and fetching the links for you. Find them yourself. You're a "smart" guy.
#192 to #185 - mcismyname (03/18/2013) [-]
I've seen all the intelligence vs happiness surveys.
If that was your 'empirically observed evidence', it's not all that impressive. I don't believe you can determine someone's happiness simply by asking them if they are happy. A person can believe they are happy and not actually be happy, and it works the other way around.
It seems all you cared about was making snide implications about my character to boost your own ego instead of making a valid point, so no great loss.
#193 to #192 - anon (03/18/2013) [-]
"oh no, the science disagrees with my beliefs, better start rationalizing!"
#204 to #193 - relentlesspoop (03/18/2013) [-]
Shut up meg
User avatar #202 to #193 - luciferiam (03/18/2013) [-]
Wasn't going to post until you said this. Just calling stuff science doesn't make it science. :| Let alone that any loyal follower of science worth their salt would claim theories are infallibly. Statistics (which mostly result from studies) tend to lie. One must examine the actual content to find the hidden truths.
#214 to #202 - mcismyname (03/18/2013) [-]
I was typing my response when you said it for me.
You cannot use science as a claim and not use scientific thinking to analyze results.
Otherwise, you are just another blind, deluded fellow calling on a higher power, like this poor anon over here.
#209 to #193 - mcismyname (03/18/2013) [-]
My point exactly. Snide remarks over logical statements.

For a guy who values science, you're pretty irrational yourself, which suggests that it is just a facade. You blindly believe 'science', ignoring bias, logic, and simple common sense just because people have told you that science is infallible.
It is, but only when the experiment is accurate and free from subjectivity. How much more subjective can the question "How happy are you?" get?

You rely on science to prove your point while being unable to exhibit its most basic lesson: critical thinking.

Philosophy exists because certain measures cannot be quantified and have no calculable answer. At the moment, there such thing as a human happiness index.
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#162 to #157 - mcismyname (03/18/2013) [-]
Well... external factors, such as a dead mother, are not related to being intelligent or not.
Assuming these factors affect both intelligent and less intelligent people equally... I think it's safe to say as a general statement that intelligent is detrimental to happiness
#75 - razzar (03/17/2013) [-]
Isn't generalizing stupid though?
#88 to #75 - anon (03/18/2013) [-]
Yes. Generalization in any form is the ultimate act of stupidity.
#60 - TheCynic (03/17/2013) [-]

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#206 - Zyklone (03/18/2013) [-]
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how i respond to these comments
User avatar #145 - tiberia (03/18/2013) [-]
then i gotta be dumb as **** XD
User avatar #126 - Danzig (03/18/2013) [-]
Sounds like I should be one happy ************ .
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